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Umbrae
07-01-2003, 02:29
“Hey…come on in, get some warms by the fire. Let me take your hat and coat – your muffler – I’ll hang 'em for ya.

“So - you want to learn Tarot. You know, learning what the cards mean, and learning how to read, are two very different things at the beginning; they come together in the end.

“Can I get you some coffee, cocoa or both at the same time? Good choice, I won’t be a second, follow me into the kitchen if you want…

“I can chat with you about both starting to learn, and starting to read, but I can’t teach you…learning is a process that you must do for yourself; it takes a lot of hard work. It does not matter which path you choose, the gestalt, the intuitive, the realist, the art interpreter – magical or mundane…if you begin with the toolbox I lead you to, and use it with discipline, your path will appear… If you re-write the guidelines I provide, you might simply achieve mediocrity.

“No, it won’t be like my path, you will never read like I do. You will read differently. You will read like you.

“Let me tell you how I began. I bought a deck. This was back in ‘72; I just went out and bought a deck. I think it was a Swiss IJJ. It had a little white book with these meanings in it, and it made no sense. I could not even tell the wands from the swords, and I was supposed to learn to read with it? I was young, and had no guidance. I wonder what happened to that deck? Then, I bought a Waite-Coleman Smith deck.

“Back in ‘72, there were no books on Tarot. I bought the Waite book, and it was a nothing but a big - little white book.

“I’d learned about journaling back in high school. So I began journaling. I made a page for each card.

“Here you go, coffee with chocolate...

“I recommend you to read “A Wicked Pack of Cards” and “History of the Occult Tarot”. You will be told elsewhere about Carl Jung and archetypes…and the truth is, modern meanings do not go back further than 1770. What Le Fou meant in 1350, is not what Le Fou meant in 1770 or 1910.

”There was a difference in “just coming out of the dark ages” and “the age of reason”. The 400-year span in meanings has never been adequately rectified; further, there is a profound difference in how the archetypes were, and are perceived.

”Jung was filled with his own ideas and knew little on pre-Christian Europe, or Europe before the plague years. His entire upbringing was colored by the church, being a pastor’s son.

Waite re-wrote Levi’s stuff from 40 years prior. Little is new, most books are re-writes of something that went before. And what went before can be called into question. So we will shun the so-called experts and authors, boil away the fat, and begin with my fundamentals.

"Who was Levi? The father of western occultism, He was writing back in the mid-1800's. At this point, he's not important...especially since there was no historical basis for most of his beliefs...let's move on.

“We will use you own life basics as a starting point. While you are learning, you will write everything down. Every spread, what the card means this time...here and now. You will see that meanings change over time based on spread location and experience.

“Modern books are usually written with the attitude that meanings are static...this card means this, that card means that. You will find that card meanings are supple - for they reflect life, not the other way around.

“Learning classical card meanings can be a good starting point. They may give you a general idea of archetypes and general characteristics. However, there is more to being a good reader than simply using the classical meanings.

“Allow the cards to speak to you. Look at them, and see what the images trigger in your mind. That thought that crosses into your consciousness is significant. Compare that thought to the classical meaning - chances are similarities.

“Every so often I pull out my old journal and compare my notes with the meanings in a book. Mine match.

“But here is the crux…my meanings were discovered – in my own way – in their own time. So they mean much more to me – they are close to my heart – they are my meanings; as yours will be yours. In the end, your meanings will match those of the books – but they will have true meaning and not rote memorized words told to you by someone else…your meanings will resonate within you. Does that make sense?

“Hand me that leather pouch…yes, I am going to roll a cigarette – then go outside and smoke it as an offering to Raven…

“So you will begin with a large spiral-bound notebook...no, not a legal pad...and pencil, not pen. You’ll be referring to your journal for years, ink can run, and pencil can be erased. Your journal will grow as you do.

“Don’t say you’ll begin with a legal pad and transfer it onto a computer – it’s an excuse, you’ll always be ‘doing it tomorrow’. Use a pencil and a spiral back notebook. Start a page for each card. Do not write your journal on a computer.

“Your first deck? Start with the Waite-Coleman Smith deck. Some folks call it the Rider-Waite; Rider and Sons were the original publishers.

“Most decks are clones of the Waite-Coleman Smith deck, the Crowley Thoth Deck, or a Marseilles deck. In the latter, the pip cards, the three’s – fours – and fives – et cetera, do not have scenic illustrations. It is more difficult to learn on. The illustrations on the Waite-Coleman Smith deck help make learning easier.

“Later, you can begin branching out and buying a deck that suits you better…but for now, you are learning, you are to think of yourself as a student.

“Follow me outside – bring your coffee. Watch your step, I don’t use a porch light – it spoils your vision. We will be dry here…the rain is singing beautifully tonight…

“That’s a good question. A lot of folks wonder about that first deck – should it be a present? Is it okay to buy my own? Should I sleep with it?

“It’s just fine to buy your own decks. There are a lot of mumbo-jumbo myths about tarot, buy into them at your own risk. I do not. Sleep with your new deck if you choose. Your conscience mind tells your subconscious about the deck and your dreams may be affected. It does nothing to the deck. 30 years of reading, and I have never re-ordered a deck, done cleansing rituals, or anything like that. Other folks shuffle my cards...the real magic, and there is real magic...happens inside me - and soon...you.

“Now don’t tell anybody this, but the deck? It’s made of a paper product and ink. That’s it. The magic happens inside your head when you look at and use the tarot.

“Inside your head…they become powerful. As we continue on this journey, you will find other things can do the same thing, open doors, in the mind...and the soul. Later, I will show you the magic toothpicks.

“No, don’t spend money on books. Spend time with the cards. The more time you spend reading somebody else’s opinion, stated as fact, the more time it will take to flush it out of your system and find your own heart.

“Doing a daily draw of one or two cards a day is fine for yourself. I like a daily draw of two and only two cards. The first is the challenge or issue of the day. The second is what the challenge brings to you; your lesson or what you must do to overcome the challenge.

“When folks are new, they have a tendency to ‘over read’. If they do not like the reading, they do a second ‘clarifying’ reading, and then perhaps another ‘clarify the clarification’…

“The Shaman Zorya said, “If we are too attached to a perceived outcome, we may miss opportunities, or what is truly meant for us”.

“You want to learn how the cards speak to and for you; not how your ego speaks for the cards.

“One full reading a week is just fine when you are new. Too many readings, and they get clouded by bias…and you learn nothing.

“It is easy to become too dependent upon oracular devices, to use them for every thing that arises. If you become too dependent, they may show you what you want to see, rather then what you are looking for.

“Let us go back in, no...I only smoke the part I want, the rest is for Raven.

Umbrae
07-01-2003, 02:30
“In the beginning, a Celtic Cross is too much. You should be doing smaller spreads…three cards. ‘Ever notice that the folks who invented numbers place the number three, before seven which comes before ten?

“Begin using only three card spreads ...and read for others.

“There is no need to advance to a five card spread until you have at least six months of reading under your belt.

“Three card readings are versatile, and accurate. More cards do not mean better readings but they look good on TV.

“What? Music? Are you going to be singing their reading? I want you to focus on the cards. No distractions – it’s just the cards, the sitter, and you; and none of this is about you. It is about the sitter.

“Read for yourself only? If you truly want to learn about yourself, you do so by helping others. Zig Zigler said, ‘If you help enough people get what they want, you will get what you want.’

“In readings, other readers will ask the sitter to, ‘focus your mind on the question’. Then the sitter dang near gets a cerebral hemorrhage thinking on it. Sometimes the cards will indicate a deeper issue than the one asked…so how do you back them up? Have a sitter think lightly on the issue, and circumstances surrounding the issue…this also enables you to plug in to their needs on a much higher level.

”Sometimes parts of the reading are not for the sitter, but for the sitter’s higher self, the super-ego, whatever…so some parts of the reading will not make sense until hindsight is possible.

“Why do folks come to us to have us read the cards? It has nothing to do with their question, they could get that answered on the internet, by a doctor, lawyer, or priest; but they come to us. It is something you should spend some time pondering. With all the science, they come to us.

”The answer is important...because no matter how good you are, how much truth you reveal...the quality of your reading will be nil if it does not meet the sitters expectations.

“…And in order to meet those expectations, your craft must be firmly based on you own world-view fundamentals…so that you can communicate well. We will discuss meeting expectations later. Right now, I want you firmly grounded in basic reading.

“Hand me your little white book that came with the deck – Oh, you have that book? She’s a lovely writer…I’ll take that too. Thank you. Since the fire is going nicely, we will dispose of them both. You won’t be needing them to learn.

“You have your deck out – good, here’s a spiral back notebook and pencil. Let’s begin…

“Card 0, The Fool…”

Kazz
07-01-2003, 05:23
Oh...it's finished!:(
Umbrae........This is wonderful..it makes me want to learn Tarot all over again!
So now I am the raw, keen and eager student thats wants to learn the tarot..:D
*gets out her deck and comes across the Fool (O), pulls it out to begin her study*



Cheers
Kazz


:TQC

Sulis
07-01-2003, 06:18
Thank you Umbrae

Love and light

Crystalmynx xx

fairyhedgehog
07-01-2003, 07:48
That is so amazing, Umbrae. It makes me want to rush to pick up my cards :)

Khatruman
07-01-2003, 12:36
What a wonderful introduction to tarot. I especially enjoy your conversational motif and how it makes things comfortable for the reader (though I am too much of a newbie to be on the inside for the Raven reference). I also write to support this thread at the top of this forum because I think it is grandly helpful to many now entering the dialogue. So many are caught up in correctness and so forth that they are not hearing the inner voice.

Though I do support material that can be found in accompanying books, I understand your "burn the books" philosophy. I would be less radical in saying lock the books up in a time safe for a few years, since I think books can be supplemental to understanding symbolism, though definitely secondary to one's own inner knowledge. Your words remind me of Emerson in The American Scholar talking about the dangers of too much reliance on books for one's understanding of the world.

In any case, I wish you were there 16 years ago, when I felt a pull towards Tarot, bought a book called The Tarot Workbook by Emily Peach, and read the first few pages which required me to memorize correlations to the planets, astrology, kabbalah, et al, ad nausuem, before I even looked at the cards!!! I, at that time, stored the decks I had enthusiastically bought away in a closet, and took another 11 years to find my way back, via the William Blake tarot. You are a gem and I look forward to more of this in the future.

Peace!

firemaiden
07-01-2003, 13:03
Thank you Umbrae, she says, pulling out her spiral journal, flipping through the blank pages numbered for each card....ahh, now what.......

bec
07-01-2003, 18:01
eagerly searching for the fool , paper and pencil in lab.

lawguy51
07-01-2003, 18:19
Hmmm, Umbrae. I have my journal. I even pasted little RWS cards on each page (Majors get 2 pages). But I love my books. I've started to fill the pages with meanings from Greer, Pollack, Sharman-Burke, the ones that I relate to. Then I've left plenty of space for my own take on meanings. I record my spreads. I look for new meanings, new relationships between cards. But I love reading Pollack, reading Greer. Can I still come to class? :(

mooncat2
07-01-2003, 22:57
Wonderful, Umbrae

I'm running to find the journal I've sadly neglected lately.

Thankyou

violinlily
08-01-2003, 16:07
can't say any more than has already been said!!!

**darting around to find a notebook**

Karenwhe
08-01-2003, 17:48
Why not use the computer for journaling.........??????????

My LIFE is in the computer (and yes, I backup everything every day).

Anyway, I don't think I could hand write anymore even if my life depended on it......

Jewel
09-01-2003, 15:13
Bravo!!!! Umbrae where were you when I started out? *LOL* I remember how overwhelmed I would get sometimes with the books ... and trying so hard to memorize those meanings. One day I just tired and I bought a notebook and put up all my books and did exactly what you said ... that is when I learned to love tarot. I cannot imagine living without my notebook(s) and pencil.

Moonbow*
23-04-2004, 05:54
I'm bumping this very important thread -

It's a must for all levels - I think :)

Red Kite
05-02-2005, 06:40
Hi Umbrae,

I've just stumbled across this/these threads from another one I was following.

Thank you for giving me another viewpoint. One which is helping me make more sense of my journey. I am a complete beginner, trying to reach my intuition, which upbringing has blocked off. I know that if I become wedded to the LWB I shall never be able to sever the cord!

In this thread you recommend reading 'A Wicked Pack of Cards'. I've looked on Amazon (.co.uk) and there are several books with the same title. Please can you tell me who the author is?

tarotbear
05-02-2005, 11:00
In any case, I wish you were there 16 years ago, when I felt a pull towards Tarot, bought a book called The Tarot Workbook by Emily Peach, and read the first few pages which required me to memorize correlations to the planets, astrology, kabbalah, et al, ad nausuem, before I even looked at the cards!!!!

I felt that way about Connolly book "tarot - a new handbook for the Apprentice" which a friend gave to me years after I had gottenn into tarot. She found it under her bed where it had been for years. As I read this book which follows similar lines - that you must know ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING ABOUT A CARD BEFORE YOU EVEN TOUCH THEM (?????) - I was struck by the concept of how boring they were making Tarot for the apprentice. Looking at the notes my freind made in the margins, it took her a lot of time to start (and give up, finally) on this book. I calculate that a VERY interested person would be studying for at least four months before they ever touch the cards ... NO way, Jose!

tmgrl2
05-02-2005, 11:11
Hi Umbrae,

In this thread you recommend reading 'A Wicked Pack of Cards'. I've looked on Amazon (.co.uk) and there are several books with the same title. Please can you tell me who the author is?

A Wicked Pack of Cards: The Origins of the Occult Tarot

by

Ronald Decker, Theirry DePaulis and Michael Dummett

St. Martin's Press.

I got mine from Amazon. com

terri

Also by Decker and Dummett

A History of the Occult Tarot

peridot
24-03-2005, 14:08
Wow Umbrae, that was fantastic. You’re a really engaging writer. Thank you for all that advice. I know you said spiral notebook but I really like the pretty journals…. so I went out and got one and I’m stealing a pencil from work. Oops I mean borrowing :)

Ahria
24-03-2005, 15:48
I have two black sprial notebooks, now I know what they are for :D

Thank you Umbrae for a truly inspiring introduction to the tarot.

Diana
24-03-2005, 16:02
Wow Umbrae, that was fantastic. You’re a really engaging writer.

Why don't you ask Umbrae if he won't PUBLISH A BOOK!!!!!!!

Maybe he'll listen to you. He doesn't listen to me. :(

peridot
24-03-2005, 16:14
Hey, Umbrae - Won't you publish a book??? please??? :)

satinangel
25-03-2005, 18:27
Hey, Umbrae - Won't you publish a book??? please??? :)

I, Second! What an amazing read this was...thank you for bumping this post! I don't think I would have found it otherwise! Well worth the time to read!!!

My spiral journal is right here next to me!

calligirl
26-03-2005, 19:57
I loved this...thank you for cutting through a lot of BS! Just get busy doing it. Wonderful advice for a hesitant newbie like myself.

"Are you going to sing the reading?" Perfect answer! I have been so uncomfortable because I just couldn't get into purifying, putting the cards in order, using a white cloth, etc., all the things we're 'supposed to do first' to begin reading.

KISS, I'll hereby swear to keep it sweet and simple from now on...but please continue...sorry to interrupt...

Phoenix Rising
26-03-2005, 20:41
Cool Umbrae..."You da man bro":laugh:

Now I wish you had of started this back a year ago! So what's next bro?

Sulis
27-03-2005, 06:23
These threads are wonderful :)

And it just gets better, there are many more 'Process' threads.

I did a search for them.

http://www.tarotforum.net/search.php?searchid=147536

In my opinion 'The Blank Spot' is particularly good :D

Love

Sulis xx

Enchanted
27-03-2005, 08:45
Thank you to who ever 'revived' this thread! Umbrae you are a fabulous writer, it has a very sardonic quality to it, which I love. If you are not a writer then you should be!

The style reminds me of a Humphrey Bogart film, either "The Big Sleep' or 'The Maltese Falcon' where Bogart is the narrator also. Very surreal moment there...Bogie talking tarot. :)

Truly though, it should be a mandatory read for any newbie! Is there more?

Umbrae
27-03-2005, 12:45
Is there more?Honestly, I’m touched.

Here is the ToC for the rest of the articles. (http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10772)

Skydancer
27-03-2005, 13:43
Umbrae -

Finding these chapters while browsing is one of the main reasons I decided to come back to AT this past Autumn; I wanted to be around for updates!!

Your writing style is quite refreshing, and you do make me laugh! :)

Good luck with the book, and hopefully you'll add a chapter or two to the Process here as you go along. We'll all be waiting with baited breath!!

Ann S:OL

Enchanted
28-03-2005, 12:07
Thanks for the link to the other instalments Umbrae, eagerly devouring them! One problem though you make me want to drink copious amounts of coffee. :laugh:

I guess the most important thing I have taken with me, is that it is okay to not always understand the messages I recieve (I only really read for myself, still too new) and thanks for giving them a name 'flashes'. Previously referred to as "well that was weird". Recently I have started to note them down in my journal too, so I suppose that is giving them a kind of voice, or at least an acknowledgement and have noticed an improvement in my readings.

You should consider the book idea, even as a work of fiction perhaps. Still getting a film noir kinda vibe. :) You do what every good writer should do make the reader, laugh, cry, the heart swell and perhaps most importantly educate. Thanks for the lesson! Eagerly awaiting more!

Elektra
28-03-2005, 12:40
Why not use the computer for journaling.........??????????

My LIFE is in the computer (and yes, I backup everything every day).

Anyway, I don't think I could hand write anymore even if my life depended on it......

You know, although I disagree with Umbrae in that I think that some LWBs are fantastic (don't hurt me!), I do agree with writing in a spiral notebook rather than journaling on the computer - for me anyway. Like you, my whole life is on the computer, and I like having my readings and studies on the computer so I can run term searches, etc.

But I tried it both ways (journaling by hand and by typing), and it's amazing how much more I get out of my readings when I'm actually writing my interpretations by hand. It's like automatic writing or something - it just takes off and keeps going. I'm nowhere near as good on the computer. So I do my initial journaling by hand and then transfer it all onto the computer. Works for me! :)

Rhiannon
28-03-2005, 14:15
Hey, Umbrae - Won't you publish a book??? please??? :)I'm still waiting for his book on Toothpick Divination. ;)

psychic sue
29-03-2005, 09:34
Really great Umbrae! I think you have given even us old-timers a new enthusiasm there!

I bought my first deck in 78. Swiss 1JJ too! And I seem to have learned the way you did !

That's why I love this site. Learning back in the bad old days was a lonely experience.

Thanks again,

Sue x :)

mythos
01-08-2005, 23:53
Thanks heaps ... love it

I'll keep the books and keep reading, but then that's because I love to read. I kinda think its an obsession ... or is that compulsion? or maybe both, or none. Tried to go cold turkey once ... lasted two hours 3 minutes and 27 seconds. I threw away my watch!

Hell, I'll read anything put in front of me ... doesn't mean I'll believe it. Not true ... I believe everything I read as I read it, but only for as long as I read it. Then I read something completely contradictory, and damned if I don't believe that too ... while I'm reading it ... but ... then I read something else that is way somewhere else ... and, yep ... I'll mostly believe it ... and so on and so forth ... but when I've had my fill .... I ponder, I cogitate, I dream, I wonder but mostly I just forget it all. Sometimes something pops out when it's relevant, but mostly ... it's gone. Thank the goddess or whoever! ... otherwise it would be too much like university courses ... jeepers did I ever have to work hard to unlearn practically everything I'd learned once I got out into the 'real' world ... whatever that is!

mythos :)

*ariadne*
30-10-2006, 19:57
well deserved bump pt. 5

ruski_svet
15-11-2006, 13:42
Good lord, this is great. I wish I'd read this when I started tarot over a year and a half ago. I noticed I still have some hangups you mentioned...I'm working on it! Thanks for a practical and powerful series, I'll read all the others.

Leisa
04-09-2008, 14:41
I know this is an old thread but you might be intersted in an audio version of Dan Pelletier's the Process.

Here is a sample chapter for your listening enjoyment:
http://www.tarotconnection.net/podcasts/Chapter26.mp3

You can find the Process at: http://tarotconnection.net/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=212

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