What sign is your deck?

[purplelady]

Thirteen mentioned that the sacred circle tarot is an "earth" sign deck , and that the dragon tarot works well with aquarius people. What sun signs go with other decks? I want to know?!

[Thirteen]

Very kind of you to start a thread on this subject. As a newbie here I wasn't sure how other readers might take to my thoughts on sun signs and decks, glad you find it helpful. I collect decks, so it's easy for me to try to match up deck to the person I'm reading for if doing a reading at home. Finding out the questioner's sign really helps me. And it usually works well, pairing up deck and questioner. They look at the cards and feel that those cards are "their" cards, working for them, not just my cards on loan to them.

One of my fave decks, that I keep mentioning is the Zerner-Faber deck. I suppose it's one of my faves because I'm a Cancer and so is it. Or at least, it's always seemed so to me. Maybe it's because it substitutes hearts for cups, but it's very motherly, and I swear it's sensitive as well. When I use it for people with water signs it's wonderful, answers whatever question they ask. When I use it in readings for people with other signs, it ignores their question and starts to delve into problems they'd weren't prepared to discuss (they'll ask about their love life and, instead of answering that question, the deck will repremand them for not doing anything with their career, that kind of thing).

Another reader recently got this deck and fell in love with it as well. He told me (his words honest!) that he was using it late at night and it told him "to go to bed and get some sleep!" Cancer. Absolutely.

[purplelady]

I have the enchanted tarot , I love it! A wonderful deck. It is the same deck as ZF, different size or edition,with a wonderful book also. A cancer..........hmmm, I wouldn'tve guessed it , but I can see that. Especially with some of the foil and reflective materials used. I'm a capricorn , and this deck is one of my favorite decks, and works well for me. Often enough , a deck will answer a different question , as you said. I figure, if it tells me about my career when I asked it about my love life, then career is what I Really need to know about at the time. I'm used to that! It doesn't bother me. But the last time I asked enchanted tarot a question , it answered that question fabulously! I suspect that this deck works well with many signs. The swords in it seem to speak to me.

[Rachael]

As I said in another post, apart from R/W the only deck I have so far is Crow's Magick... considering it in this new light my first impression was 'fire' (I'm an Aries :) ), but the more I looked at it the less I was sure - maybe all the reds and yellows influenced me. If the whole deck was just one suit, I thought, it'd be swords, so maybe it is another airy intellectual deck...

What I thought though, is in choosing a deck, is it your Sun sign it will appeal to? Tarots is about intuition, so maybe it would have more to do with your Moon sign; or even maybe with Venus, which governs most matters of taste...

(Or maybe I'm getting out of my depth and off the point here and should shut myself up! :P )

Rachael

[Thirteen]

purplelady (20 Sep, 2001 07:13):
I'm a capricorn , and this deck is one of my favorite decks, and works well for me.

I'm not surprised. When under stress, signs switch to their opposite (the one on the oppositing side of the sign wheel, sic). Capricorns become Cancers in other words, and Cancers become Capricorns. At least, that's what I was told by an Astrologer friend.

As for which sign to go for (moon or sun) I find that sun or rising works best in picking a deck for the questioner.

[SafireMyst]

Hi! I have to jump in on this one. This is turning out to be a Z/F thread. I have had the same experience with my Z/F deck answering a question the querent didn't ask. I believe this deck answers the question that the asker really needs to know about. So, why do you think that is? It cuts through the distraction and gets to the real problem? What sign does that?

I would say the Rohrig Tarot is Aries. It's all in the style it answers. Very direct not candy coated. Goddess Tarot is a happy Libra, very fair and loving.

[Talisman]

purplelady,

What a fun post! And, I can't think of one I am less qualified to talk about. So, I will.

I just about exhaust my knowledge of astrology by saying I am an Aquarius, but--

My first deck, acquired back in the days when there were not many decks to choose from and they were hard to find, is the Aquarian. So, it's just gotta be an aquarian deck, right?

Then someone gave me the Robin Wood deck, and, since I like it so well, it must be an aquarian deck too, right?

Now I have the World Spirit deck, and think I will really enjoy working with this deck, so I suspect it must be aquarian too

My qualifications for making these determinations are I remember the song from the musical, "This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius . . ." very well. Haven't heard it for a long time.

Talisman

[Logiatrix]

nifty topic, marlene! (and thirteen..!)
:)
right now i'm using five different tarot decks, and it's been fun to figure out their signs.
when i read for others, i use the osho zen, voyager or morgan-greer. the osho and the voyager are still kinda new to me, though, and my impressions keep evolving.
any-hoo...
the osho, to me, is clearly a libra deck. all the images have a lot of air and space in them, and the entire deck is predominantly about balance and beauty--libra, through and through. the voyager, i think may be a taurus. all the "stuff" in the images are so solid and earthy, and the deck as a whole is very definite and precise--even stubborn--in it's readings! but, like i said, i'm still getting to know these two decks...
i've used the morgan-greer since i first started studying tarot and i believe it's a pisces, with an abundance of wisdom and experience--it has a kind of "old soul" nature. yet, it also has a sense of humor and play. it reminds me of the eccentric elderly lady living in the corner house (the one with all the birdhouses and gnomes in her front yard). she always wears floppy, flowered summer hats and brightly-colored flamenco dresses, and she's great company. this deck is her: flamboyant, wise, vibrant and truthful. she's a pisces woman-child.
;)
i also have two personal decks: the medicine woman and the universal waite. the medicine woman is definitely a cancerian, with bowls, cups or water all over these cards. i'm a moon-girl, and we "clicked" right a way. (in fact, i guard my medicine woman tarot almost viciously--nobody else has been read with it but me, though several have asked.) this deck is extremely nurturing, and excellent as a "personal growth" type of tarot, because it has such a soothing and loving nature. when i want a more assertive, powerful, "yang" reading for myself, i use my universal waite deck. the universal waite suprised me as a leo, but it really seems to be so. there are wands, staffs and pillars everywhere in this deck--which is either fire or air. the abundant yellows and golds in the background of most of the cards say "fire" element to me, though. my only other reason for thinking leo with this deck is that everytime i think of the universal waite, i picture this deck's "strength" card (my favorite version of that particular card, BTW), which is the leo card. when i feel overtly passive and need strength, a reading from this deck brings me up, just the way a leo friend can do so well!
:D
wow, tarot decks are really like people, aren't they? how cool!

[Thirteen]

Talisman (20 Sep, 2001 22:23):
purplelady,
My first deck, acquired back in the days when there were not many decks to choose from and they were hard to find, is the Aquarian. So, it's just gotta be an aquarian deck, right?

Then someone gave me the Robin Wood deck, and, since I like it so well, it must be an aquarian deck too, right?

Now I have the World Spirit deck, and think I will really enjoy working with this deck, so I suspect it must be aquarian too
Talisman

LOL! Ok, yeah, feels that way sometimes. But I don't think it's a matter of liking the deck so much as what it does best. Which, in theory (hey, my theory) let's you know what kind of reading you'll get from it. A deck that cuts to the heart of the matter, or a deck that's intellectual, or one that's light and friendly.

The Aquarian deck's one of my oldest and best beloved decks. I will always think of that deck as my first love. But I wouldn't classify it as "Cancer" just because I like it and it's always worked well for me. In fact, I've always kinda thought of it as Capricorn. Profound, shrewd, quiet, honorable (looks conventional but has a zany sense of humor ;) How many Capricorns does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One, but it has to be his/her idea!). Earthy: Martin Luther King, Jr., J.R.R. Tolkien types.

Not at all like you different drummer Aquarians. (How many Aquarians does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One, but he has to use the latest technology to do it!) Charles Lindberg, Jules Verne...you Aquarians are always trying to fly.

[tiger lily]

ok I tried to figure out my plain ol´ Rider-Waite .... and I tried and I tried and I tried ... help! It´s unfair to expect me to know astrology! I´m a TAROT reader! ::pout::

Ok, I tried for about five minutes (I´m Aries - can you tell? ;-) ) but I really don´t know what sign it could be. Funny thing is, I never liked it, but it´s the *only* deck I can read with. I have 10 or 12 decks just sitting around, because I keep buying in the hope that one day I´ll discover the deck that both appeals to me and works... (mad collector´s syndrome? Who said that ?!)

[Thirteen]

tigerlily (21 Sep, 2001 05:56):
I have 10 or 12 decks just sitting around, because I keep buying in the hope that one day I´ll discover the deck that both appeals to me and works... (mad collector´s syndrome? Who said that ?!)

How many Aries does it take to screw in a lightblub? One, but you'd better get the hell out of the way.

Have you got the Ancestral Path Tarot? Seems to work really well for Aries. I think because it has four different stories, one for each suit, and they're all about kings and queens winning out over adversity, especially the fiery (wand) Egyptian one. An Aries I read for always loves looking for the "strong Egyptian queen" who she feels represents her in that deck. As for RW, I think it, like Aquarian might be Capricorn. Very solid and reliable. It's certainly an Earth sign. There's very little fire or air in that deck.

[Thirteen]

SafireMyst (20 Sep, 2001 20:33):
Hi! I have to jump in on this one. This is turning out to be a Z/F thread. I have had the same experience with my Z/F deck answering a question the querent didn't ask. I believe this deck answers the question that the asker really needs to know about. So, why do you think that is? It cuts through the distraction and gets to the real problem? What sign does that?

This is another reason I think it's Cancer. It's that "mom" thing. At it's best, Mom says, "Sweetheart, I know there's a problem you've been avoiding, sit down, we'll talk...."

At it's worse, Mom says, "Stop avoiding me! We're going to talk about this problem of yours!" And you, of course respond, "Moooom! Do we have'ta?" :)

I do this all the time to people. My best and worst trait. You have to remember, Cancer's card in the deck is the Chariot. Armored, the charioteer drives it right into the fray, battling for what he believes to be right. People forget that about Cancers; that they are a cardinal sign--that means a motivator, one that moves, abet sideways, to and from the water ;)

Cardinal signs move (Capricorn, Cancer, Libra, Aries) and get others to move; they start things.
Fixed signs stay put (Taurus, Scorpio, Aquarius, Leo); they create things.
Mutable signs change (Virgo, Pisces, Gemini, Sag), they develop things.

[Thirteen]

I should add an adendum to all this. Cardinal signs don't actually like to "move" physically. They like to get people and things moving. They're about change, variety and evolution. Similarly, the Chariot isn't so much about physically moving (although it's often interpeted as traveling by car if its position in the spread is related to taking trips) as motivation, getting where you're going, making a transition between one state into another.

Ok. I'll shut up now :)

[cj]

Hi all,

I am a Leo and my favorite deck is the Gendron Deck (I have mad collectors syndrom and have a quite a few deck, but this one draws me in).

Does anyone know the sign for the Gendron or is this an individual thing (ie my R/W is Leo and someone else's R/W is Aries)?

cj

[tiger lily]

<g> How many Aries does it take to screw in a lightbulb? One. And a Virgo to clean up (you know they LOVE it!) }> ...

Thirteen, you changed forever my relationship with the R/W deck - now I will always see it as being a cardboard Sam Spade: "Only the facts, Ma´am!"

The Ancestral is on my wishlist (as are about 5 or 6 other decks... ok... maybe it´s actually 10 or 12...)

[Logiatrix]

tigerlilly,
have you tried any of the other R/W versions or clones?
what makes a deck work for an individual always mystifies me...

[arizonagirl]

Quote from Talisman: "Then someone gave me the Robin Wood deck, and, since I like it so well, it must be an aquarian deck too, right?"

I'm Aquarius too, and if the Robin Wood deck wasn't, I've now declared it to be so.

Oh yeah, Talisman - I've just finished The Golden Compass and the library has ordered the next book. Thanks for the suggestion.

[Thirteen]

cj (21 Sep, 2001 22:26):
I am a Leo and my favorite deck is the Gendron Deck (I have mad collectors syndrom and have a quite a few deck, but this one draws me in).
cj

Well, as I keep saying, I don't think it's a matter of a deck you like or are drawn to being the same sign as you, especially given that you may be drawn to similar signs--Leos are naturally drawn to other fire signs, for example, as they share your heat. What you need to do is decipher elements which keep appearing in the deck. First question, is it Earth, Air, Water or Fire?

For example, the Sacred Circle Deck pictures Earth elements all the way through. No escaping them, even with the swords. Water is surrounded by forests, Swords hang over hills and mounts, fire is by stones. Earth just dominates. And there aren't a lot of people in the deck (most people are shown as solitary). That suggests "Hermit" to me (Hermit + Earth = Virgo).

That's *my* reasoning. Yours may differ and be equally correct :)

As for the Glendron deck, I think that yes, it's definately a fire sign. The pictures flow upward, like flames; they have a lot going on, a lot of symbols to keep them occupied (fire signs are easily bored). Lots of people in some of the cards (party on!), colors crackle, warm. Man of the images glow or sparkle. And, unique to most decks, people smile and face the reader (open, warm, happy). Even the Star card, which usually has a cool, celestial feel, glows warmly, like a candle flame. This deck is full of restless energy. Very fire.

Sign wise, I'd judge it more Sag. than Leo because, like Sag, these cards seem to always be on the go. Background location keeps changing (unlike the Sacred Circle, for example, which you feel is all taking place in one very green area of Britian). Place to place, meeting folk, interacting. (which Leos do but when they go someplace, they generally like to stand in the spotlight and let people come to them rather than go exploring, if you get what I mean. Afterall, you warm, charismatic Leos do deserve the attention ;)).

May be just me, but when I go through these cards, I feel like a Sag. has just driven up to my house, hustled me into his car and is taking me (likely against my will ;)) from one wild party to the next, all around the world ;D

Robin Wood folk, why do you get Aquarius from this deck? Just curious as it's a deck I don't have. From the pictures, it does seem that things are often floating about. What else does it have that appeals to your Aquarian needs?

[purplelady]

It is difficult for me to figure out what deck may be which sign! I'm thinking the Nigel Jackson deck is a taurus. Also , though I have sun sign in capricorn ,I have 2 planets and rising sign in aquarius.

[cj]

Thirteen,

Thank you for the insight. Sag. it is.

Does this make sense: I am drawn to these cards and do my best readings with them because my soul card is the Chariot (movement twards victory) and the Gendron Deck is fire and movement.

Let me know what you think

cj

[Thirteen]

cj (24 Sep, 2001 10:51):
Thirteen,
I am drawn to these cards and do my best readings with them because my soul card is the Chariot (movement twards victory) and the Gendron Deck is fire and movement.

Let me know what you think

cj

Good thought! The Chariot is an intereting card because it's Sun, but guided by the Moon (card is Cancer, but the guy in the chariot is always identified as Helios). I could really see such a soul card guiding you to the Gendron Deck--even though the deck's fiery, it really relies on instincts and going with the flow ("Let's see where this takes us, why don't we!"). It really is always moving.

It's a damn good deck too, by the way. I have it, and what I like about it is that it's readings are always active, never passive. If the reading is unhappy, it usually comes with the feeling that something can be done. This isn't one of those decks that says, "everything's miserable, deal with it" :) It says, "Things aren't so good? Alright, here's what we're going to do--" Very energetic deck, very motivating.

[faunabay]

I had never thought about this until you brought it up Thirteen, so obviously I don't know what the heck I'm doing. But I was flipping through my decks trying to figure out what they were and came up with....
Fantastical Tarot is definitely a fire sign - maybe Leo. Deep rich colors, very dramatic, look at me deck.
Robin Wood I can't figure an actual sign but it seems to be an air deck. As I look at the cards I see alot of white clouds and blue sky.

This is fun!!

[Gwyth]

Hey, this is a great thread. I'm new to Tarot but I'm really into Astrology so I find it very intruiging. Was also delighted to see that there's a deck characterized by Sagittarian traits. I'm a Sag, so I bought it first thing on amazon.com after reading it. I'm very excited. :}

[Thirteen]

Gwyth (04 Oct, 2001 14:28):
Hey, this is a great thread. I'm new to Tarot but I'm really into Astrology so I find it very intruiging. Was also delighted to see that there's a deck characterized by Sagittarian traits. I'm a Sag, so I bought it first thing on amazon.com after reading it. I'm very excited. :}

You're ahead of the game if you know your astrology. There's a lot of astrology underlying tarot and it helps to know it, especially with those tricky court cards.

[truthsayer]

i'm finding this thread a bit confusing. maybe i'm being obtuse but i fail to see how a deck could be more one sign than another. i'm a pisces and i find that i can adjust to any of the decks mentioned but that doesn't make the deck piscean. could my ability to adjust to almost any deck be b/c pisces is a mutable sign and thus more willing to be flexible and change to who i need to be to read that deck? as far as my fav decks go, i don't find them particularly piscean. however, i'll throw them out for the sake of getting an opinion" the celtic wisdom, mary hanson-roberts, rohrig, and the art noveau. i think my major criterion for choosing a deck is that i find the imagery and card mythology appealing. could this be neptunian influence?

my pardons to capricorns but having a cap hubby i can't resist adding these to the lightbulb collection.

how many capricorns does it take to change a lightbulb?
just one but only after it goes thru the proper adminsitrative channels. then somebody else is going to have to actually change the bulb while the capricorn tells him/her how to do it.

how many carpicorns does it take to change a lightbulb? none, capricorns don't like change.

how many pisces does it take to change a lightbulb? one i think but i won't be certain until my intuition tells me that the lightbulb is really ready to seek enlightenment.

[Thirteen]

truthsayer (05 Oct, 2001 09:01):
i'm finding this thread a bit confusing. maybe i'm being obtuse but i fail to see how a deck could be more one sign than another. i'm a pisces and i find that i can adjust to any of the decks mentioned but that doesn't make the deck piscean. could my ability to adjust to almost any deck be b/c pisces is a mutable sign and thus more willing to be flexible and change to who i need to be to read that deck?

What we're talking about here isn't that a deck you're drawn to is your sign. Or that a deck you can use/adjust to is your sign either. (And as a mutable Piscean, yes, I'd say you can adjust to just about any deck-you mellow girl you!). Nor about what criteria you use to pick a deck.

What we're talking about is traits, symbols, images, feelings, and the philosophy of a deck that might make it *seem* more one sign than another. That, if you will, gives it a particular personality. Go back to where this started, in the discussion of the Sacred Circle deck. Sacred Circle pictures solitary people. There's not a card with more than one person pictured. The colors are primarily green. The images are primarily of stone, forest, grass. Mounds are pictured in the background of EVEN of the sword cards. The cup cards have water surrounded by greenery. And if you read the book, it's philosophy in interpetation is very Pagan, with reverence for the EARTH.

This is an "EARTH" deck. Probably Virgo because of its solitary figures. How is it more one sign than another? By it's symbols, feeling, philosophy. What difference does this make to you? Well, none apparently. What difference does it make to others? Some, maybe. It might help them use the deck better, might help them decide what to use the deck for (I don't know that Sacred Circle would be the best deck to use for a relationship spread, for example)--of if it's the best deck for a particular querent you're doing a reading for (if you're querent's a Gemini, it might not be the best deck to use to answer their question). It's simply a fun theory of how to better use a deck.

Oh, and there's an "Aquarius" deck--it's a beautifully colored, perfectly square deck (so you can have cards going "sideways" as well as right-side-up or reversed) with cool collections of symbols in the place of human figures and two blank cards for personal visions. You might want to check it out, it's always seemed very Pisces to me.

[truthsayer]

thanks. that does make better sense now. for some reason, i remember this whole thread pretty clearly and i just needed some clarification what criterion was used. i've always gotten along well w/ most signs except an occasional gemini or virgo. i seem to draw more tauruses, scorpios, libras, and capricorns to me in friendships. if the sacred circle is more of a virgo type deck makes sense why i don't connect to it even tho i've really tried. i don't own a copy of the aquarian deck mainly b/c i've never been attracted to the imagery. however, i'm always willing to give a deck a second chance. particularly since i don't have a deck in mind to pursue at the moment. ;) :D ;D

[Thirteen]

truthsayer (06 Oct, 2001 05:27):
i don't own a copy of the aquarian deck mainly b/c i've never been attracted to the imagery.

Sorry, my bad. It wasn't the "Aquarian" tarot I was thinking of. The one I thought you might like is called the "Mandala Astrologicial Tarot." Very cool. And very, very different.

[truthsayer]

[b]Thirteen (06 Oct, 2001 08:05):[/b
Sorry, my bad. It wasn't the "Aquarian" tarot I was thinking of. The one I thought you might like is called the "Mandala Astrologicial Tarot." Very cool. And very, very different.

i took a look at the mandala astrological tarot. it's out of print but i may run across it somewhere for a better look. i'm not sure if i like it or not.

i do believe that the legend arthurian deck has a strong piscean influence. the pictures were done in water colors which gives them a misty ethereal look. i love her use of pastel colors and soft brush strokes. the arthurian legends are romantic and heroic--things that a pisces w/ venus in pisces just melts for. she adds legends of fairy and the other characters that i haven't read before. i love the high priestess being nimue. nimue is sometimes considered the high priestess of avalon or lady of the lake but in this deck nimue puts merlin in his place. i love a gutsy woman. there is also a card (can't remember which) that guinevere is almost burned at the stake but is saved by lancelot. another part of the legend i haven't heard but in my mind that addition works in the deck. maybe it's b/c i find myself worrying sometimes about being burned at the stake for being such a liberal in a fundamentalist town! :D

anyhow, what do you think? am i getting it? ;)

[Thirteen]

truthsayer (08 Oct, 2001 03:42):
i do believe that the legend arthurian deck has a strong piscean influence.


I think you're right! Not just given the water colors and romanticism (how can it not be "water heavy if it's guiding myth is one steeped in romance?), but look at how many of the Major Arcana have water in them. Rivers, lakes, cauldrons, brooks. Even some of the "spears" and "swords" have fountains, rain--lots of water. And I note that the Queen of cups is "Britannia" with the Ace of Cups being the Grail (meaning that the most important elements of the legend on which the deck is based, Arthur, king of Britian, the Grail!), are respresented by cups.

This deck is deep under the water, very dreamy, very Piscean ;)

Oh, and yes, part of the lengend is that Lancelot saves Gwen from the fire. Love puts out the fire (sic) very water.

[faunabay]

Just a thought here. Thirteen, earlier in this thread you surmised that the Robin Wood may be an Aquarius deck because of all the air in it. It just popped into my head that someone recently told me we are literally in the Age of Aquarius. I don't know if this is actually right but if it is could this be the reason so many people (of all signs) are drawn to this deck now?????? Like I said, just a thought.

[Thirteen]

faunabay (08 Oct, 2001 06:55):
Just a thought here. Thirteen, earlier in this thread you surmised that the Robin Wood may be an Aquarius deck because of all the air in it. It just popped into my head that someone recently told me we are literally in the Age of Aquarius. I don't know if this is actually right but if it is could this be the reason so many people (of all signs) are drawn to this deck now?????? Like I said, just a thought.

Could be! Though there's some argument as to when the Age of Aquarius starts/ends. But I do know it's suppose to last quite a while...I think! It is interesting that Robin Wood is one of the most popular decks. The only reason it seems so "airy" to me is that there seems to be a real breeze blowing through most of the cards. Things float and ripple. Also very open, unconventional, even a little wild and shocking. It certainly seems very "hippy" ;)

[GeminiLady]

First off, I have to say I do not know anything about this subject, but it sure is interesting...

I know that I am an air sign, but I also feel like a cup sign...so--does that mean I should be able to click with twice as many types of decks?...

I have maybe 9 decks or so, but I lean towards old reliable (RW). I have very high hopes for my Witches Tarot deck-just because you just know when something is going to work. Plus anyone who has read that thread I posted will understand. ;)

So what is this long babbleing post I am writing? Beats me, I just wanted to join in. BTW, I am guessing that the Witches Tarot would be an earth sign, so I STILL can't figure out why this deck likes me. --I'm not Wiccian,(I would call myself a mulit-denominational- liberal- conservative -Independent) I'm not an earth sign, but this deck is going to be "my" deck, I just know it.....

Love and Light,
Gem

[Goldie]

It is interesting that Robin Wood is one of the most popular decks. The only reason it seems so "airy" to me is that there seems to be a real breeze blowing through most of the cards. Things float and ripple. Also very open, unconventional, even a little wild and shocking. It certainly seems very "hippy" ;)

being an air sign (Gemini - does this qualify me? ;) ) I'd deifnitely agree with the Aquarius leanings with the Robin Wood. Colourful, Airy and lots of movement with watery undertones (Aquarius being the water carrier). Even the fire suits have an airy/watery feel to them.

So... I have never been able to find a Gemini Deck. I am drawn to the Robin Wood, the Mythic, the Gendron... I love variety and colour. Any ideas??? Maybe this is why I have several decks??

How many Gemini's does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
One... once the twins have stopped debating and decided that the light bulb really needs changing (nope it's fine... hang on, what are you talking about - it doesn't need changing!). ;)

[Thirteen]

GeminiLady (08 Oct, 2001 23:56):
BTW, I am guessing that the Witches Tarot would be an earth sign, so I STILL can't figure out why this deck likes me.


I think Witches is Earth, too. I think it likes you because Gemini's are often reservoirs of knowledge, smart, adapatable. I think it wants a sharp, smart owner who will get it's meaning, interpet its message, without it having to repeat itself--well, not more than a few times, right? It seems like a pretty protective and bossy deck (er, no offence--it's splendid, wise and wonderful and you'll tell it I said so, won't you?); Earth signs are stubborn and sometimes won't listen. But Air signs love to listen, and if you want to get a message out, a Gemini is the way to go. They'll spread the word for you. So if this is a deck that wants to TELL people something, wants querents to hear, understand and listen to what it has to say, it's picked the right interpeter/messagner/voice hasn't it? :)

[GeminiLady]

Thirteen,
I like how you think! :D

BTW, even though I don't sew very well, I am making a special bag for the Witches deck, from a green silk blouse I used to wear. -I want it to feel appreciated and since I'm not very domestic, it's showing a good effort on my part. -and yes, I will make sure I tell it that it's wonderful and wise. ...

Thanks for your thoughts! :)

Love and Light,
Gem

[Kiama]

Well, I s'pose my opinions differ to the majority. Again.

I reckon that my Robin Wood deck is Earth... Maybe a Taurus? mainly cuz it's one of the selfish and rather stubborn decks I own! (Hates me using other decks!) Not offending any Taureans, but stubborness and selfishness are a couple fo the worse traits of a Taurean. I know. I have to live with one!

My Nigel Jackson deck seems to be another Earth deck, but more of a Capricorm.

Sacred Circle is definitely an Earth deck, but with some Fire thrown in.

Witches Tarot is Fire for me. Dunno why.

Gendron seems to be very Piscean, probably cuz of it's New Age feel.

I'm trying to think of some watery decks.... Um... Oh dear, I don't have any. Well, I'm a Cancerian, so I think I'd better buy some soon!

Kiama

[purplelady]

Kiama, you may be on to something about the nigel jackson deck being a capricorn! I hadn't thought of it before. I am a capricorn.I've been using this deck for quite awhile now to do meditations on each of the majors. Last time the chariot sang to me , and yesterday justice actually sang to me! Really ! I went to meditate with #8 , thinking it was going to be "strength". Then realized in this deck #8 is justice. Having issues with this card just recently, I immediatly felt ambivalent about it. Plus the woman in justice is quite cold looking , with blue-purple hair , ice blue eyes and dress!Nothing warm about the card whatsoever.But I did the meditation anyhow , if anything just to get through it and move on to the next card. She sang to me and it did make me feel a little better. This deck sings to me. Am I crazy?!

[rainwolf]

I think the Moon garden tarot and the spiral tarot are pisces decks, maybe cancerian decks.

The rider is a taurus deck--so grounded and practical.

[Hermina]

I am a Virgo, double Virgo actally, Virgo with Virgo rising with north node in Virgo... you get the picture. The only deck I trust is the Rider-Waite with its hard-edged no frills angle. So I thougt it must also be a Virgo... but I agree with an above statement... it is actually a Taurus. It is very stubborn in telling you exactly what you need to hear, not what you wish to hear. Maybe one day I'll find my Virgoan deck. Maybe it will be the Secret Tarot. That one seems to satisfy my Gemini moon as well.

I am intrigued by Thirteen's stament about switching to your opposite sign under certain conditions. I have very little water in me, but I do feel like a Pices from time to time. I haven't been able to explain that draw, other than my south node being in Pices, because I am really not a watery person. During those times I am drawn to the Tarot of the Mermaids which I believe to be Picean.

The Thoth... definitely an Aquarius.

[Kiama]

I reckon that my Robin Wood deck is Earth... Maybe a Taurus? mainly cuz it's one of the selfish and rather stubborn decks I own! (Hates me using other decks!)

Ugh! Did I really write that?!?! *Hides face in shame*

Seeing these old threads being revived really reminds you just how much you change in a short space of time... For a couple of years I have rejected the idea of decks feeling anything, let alone getting jealous!

Having said that, I think that different decks do make you read in a different way... And I read in a very fiery way with the Robin Wood these days, but also in a very down-to-earth, common-sense way. With some compassion and sympathy thrown in, and guided by intelligence.

It is a SPIRIT DECK! ;)

Kiama

[Flidais]

What an interesting thread! Not long ago I grouped my decks into four "elements" -- mostly to help me decide which deck would be good to use for a querent based on their sun sign.

Thirteen mentioned that her Enchanted Tarot is a Cancer -- and I have that listed under "Water." Some decks are listed under more than one element.

[autumn star]

This is an interesting topic - I am a capricorn - and I use Morgan Greer - it seems like a Scorpio deck to me, someone here said that it seemed like a pisces deck - I think that it fits better as a Scorpio. I think that like rainwolf suggested, that Tarot of a Moon Garden and the Enchanted Tarot's have a more pisces feel to them.

[WolfyJames]

I think the Fey Tarot is an air sign personally, but I can't say which one, yet. Maybe aquarius, for the excentricity of the feys in it, there's some earth in the deck as well but aquarius has saturn as planet as well as uranus which is an earth planet.

As for the Robin Wood being an aquarius deck, as an aquarius myself I don't feel any attraction towards it at all.

[Kissa]

imho robin wood tarot is a gemini.

what sign could the gaian tarot be????

kissa

[Chronata]

This is a cool thread!

I like the idea of decks being certain elelments, certain signs...
but then I am one of those folks who likes to personify my decks, to give me a better rapport with them!

And ... something else to ponder, while reading this....

When someone attributes a certain deck to a certain sign...it makes me wonder...what sign does the creator of that deck have?

And I wonder then, is it a match to what I am thinking?

[sambtween]

Opening a 5 year old thread in a Gnutella forum brings down wrath, but this is so fascinating. I'm new here (Hi everyone), used to read a very long time ago and feel myself being drawn back.

But I don't seem to feel connected to my decks. I have the Rider-Waite (my oldest deck), and the Arthurian tarot (which I don't seem to feel connected to, even though I could have sworn that I had gathered it alltogether, put it away, then found Guinevere at the stake lying on the floor).

I googleimaged a couple of the decks mentioned and was more drawn to the Gendron, then the Sacred Circle tarot. There are more I haven't seen, but there does seem to be something there.

BTW, I'm a Scorpio, Sun conjunct Neptune, square Moon in Leo conjunct Uranus, virgo rising (lol nothing is ever ez, even choosing a tarot deck).

You all have given me much to think about and explore - thank you!

[Blue Fury]

The Thoth... definitely an Aquarius.

aarrrrgghhh...no way!!! LOL!!! Aquarius (IMO) is too light and airy and 'humane' to be Thoth, LOL!!!

Given the transecendant and profoundly spiritual apsects of Thoth I would say this is much more in keeping with Scorpio, a deep, magickal, mysterious sign which rules death and rebirth, the inexorable and most diffiuclt aspects of human existence. I have always found Thoth to be intense, a bit indulgent on occasions, can be amazingly uplifting, yet also will 'sting' with a vengeance if required to do so. This deck has many difficult traits, can in turn seem beautiful and truly ugly (when it soars like an eagle, or crawls on earth like a grey lizard), and one more aspect it seems to share with the Scorpion is an inability for indifference, both in the readings it gives and also how others react to it. I can honestly say that in all my years of owning this deck I have never met somebody who didn't express a strong opinion on it - whether they loved it, or hated it with a passion. Pretty much like you'd expect on meeting a typical Scorpio...they are impossible to ignore, even if you can't stand them :)

Fury x

[chrisam-crystals]

what an absolutely fascinating subject!

i am a typical aquarian so i am always into looking at new ways of looking at things....so here goes.

vargo gothic - definitely got to be scorpio! vampires just exude dark sexuality and the mysteries of life, which in my opinion is scorpio all over.

norse tarot - got to be geared towards the earth signs as virtually every card is depicted outside in the open air, with green fields and standing stones and mounds.....a very down to earth deck in my opinion.

ancient egyptian tarot - sagittarius.......but i'm not 100% sure, i think it is due to them loving money and the best things in life but because they are also spiritually aware of everything around them.

[nikkeihime]

this is indeed a terrific thread. i'm a newbie to tarot, so i am not sure if i would be able to identify the sign of the decks.

in this thread, i read about aquarian, virgo-like, cancerian (?), and taurus like decks, but i am wondering, thirteen, what you think would be a libran deck?

[vision777]

how do you find out what your deck sign is ? i'm confused about what this thread is saying are you supose to look up the day the deck was made ?

[gorgeousbutterfly]

what sign is the marsielles tarot? or the tarot of lombardy? i am thinking but then when i think of any sign then i suppose i am being biased becaue its an old classic deck, i don't want to attribute the fact its old to any sign. know what i mean?

[star-lover]

how do you find out what your deck sign is ? i'm confused about what this thread is saying are you supose to look up the day the deck was made ?

i wondered if you could do that, it would make sense, but i googled for my cosmic tarot and only got the year of introduction not a day and month

if we are going by just how it feels to us i would say it was a Leo deck lol - because its so vibrant and colourful and rich, PLUS alot of the cards are based on famous movie actors - even madonna is in there in the three of cups - but then could be so many other ones as well, sigh, its hard - perhaps cancer, cancer is quite a theatrical sign as well and has a very imaginative/vivid inner life

[accipiter]

I think (in this context) that it's not your deck sign as in the birthday of the deck, but rather what sign the deck feels like it belongs to based on the colors and imagery on the cards.

Like the example Thirteen gives, of the deck that has a lot of earth elements to it so it feels like it might be an earth sign deck.

I think that the one I just bought (The Lovers Path) is a water deck (and probably Pisces) -- a lot of the more powerful images involve water, and the whole deck has a dreamy underwater feel to it.

[solarmoon]

how do you find out what your deck sign is ? I’m confused about what this thread is saying are you suppose to look up the day the deck was made ?

If you go to page 4(3?) there's a sort of description of the thread, by thirteenth (sp)

I'm sorry about the spelling, I blame my cat.

What I wanted to add, was I have a messed up star sign. I'm a Cancerian but I act like a Gemini or a fire sign. It confuses the heck out of people and I often second guess myself.

BUT I have never had a problem reading a deck. I'm currently after a William Blake deck (what sign would that be, because It's really different). and I own a r/w which I think is air or fire, because or the jagged lines and the diverse meanings of the images.

[Jewel]

Well I am a Piscean, with a nice balance in the Earth and Fire departments, but absolutly no air signs in my entire birth chart, and was told by an astrologer that I was the most "pisces" pisces they had ever run accross. But I think the fire really comes through too (moon and ascendant).

As for decks, I think the Cosmic Tribe is definetly a fire deck, probably a Leo as it is quite colorful (understatement) and is not shy, and is very showy. But it could be Aries.

The Fey, which I love, I think might be air. I probably like it because I have no air so I need some *LOL*.

The Baroque Bohemian Cats, I think is a Virgo. Doesn't like water, practical, and can be indefferent if it feels like it at the time. Reminds me of my mom, whom I love dearly. Perhaps that is simply how Virgos are with Pisces (my dad and I are both Pisces).

[Miren]

Ok, so I really don't know enough about astrology to figure out what my Gilded is. Anyone else have ideas? I'm kind of curious now.

[Glass Owl]

When under stress, signs switch to their opposite (the one on the oppositing side of the sign wheel, sic). Capricorns become Cancers in other words, and Cancers become Capricorns. At least, that's what I was told by an Astrologer friend.
From what I have read, yes, a person can exhibit the negative traits of the sign opposite of the wheel when under stress. This same idea follows in the Jung-Myer-Briggs 16 Personality Types. When faced with stress, exhaustion, or illness, a person's "shadow" can appear which is the negative traits in the personality type that is the direct opposite of it. For instance, I usually score as an INFJ (although I'm often a INFP too) so my shadow is the negative traits of the ESTP profile.

Speaking of the Jung Myer Briggs Personality types, it would be interesting to see if anyone could link a deck to one of the 16 personality types or see if we prefer certain decks because of our personaity type.

By the way, each of the 4 letters that make up a Jung Myer Briggs personality type refer to a choice between 4 categories. If you go on google and do a search, you'll find all kinds of online tests which you help you determine your type.

The breakdown of a type:

1. Extraversion (E) or Introversion (I)
Our flow of energy--how we receive and give energy

2. Intuitive (N) or Sensing (S)
How we take in information

3. Thinking (T) or Feeling (F)
How we prefer to make decisions

4. Judging (J) or Perceiving (P)
The day-to-day lifestyle we prefer

[Jewel]

Speaking of the Jung Myer Briggs Personality types, it would be interesting to see if anyone could link a deck to one of the 16 personality types or see if we prefer certain decks because of our personaity type.
I am not sure what section of the forum we did it in, but we did do our personality types to see what we Aecleticians are. It was pretty interesting. I am not sure how one would do that for a deck as it cannot answer questions ... it would be very subjective to whomever "answers" the questions for the deck. But it would be really neat if we could figure out how to do it.

[Glass Owl]

Maybe someone could create a "Dear Deck, What Jung Myer Brigg Type Are You?" spread....hmmm, now you've got my mind whirling hehehehe. Something along the lines of the New Deck Interview kind of spreads that are out there.

[cosmic_bubble]

i wondered if you could do that, it would make sense, but i googled for my cosmic tarot and only got the year of introduction not a day and month

if we are going by just how it feels to us i would say it was a Leo deck lol - because its so vibrant and colourful and rich, PLUS alot of the cards are based on famous movie actors - even madonna is in there in the three of cups - but then could be so many other ones as well, sigh, its hard - perhaps cancer, cancer is quite a theatrical sign as well and has a very imaginative/vivid inner life

How interesting! Great thread :) I'm a Cancerian - I have quite an attachment to my Cosmic Tarot deck and it's the one I use most often for self-readings. It's got me pondering about why I like it so much.... I have to say that I'm very drawn to cards that are set at night, and especially if they have the moon in them.

Maybe this is why I have a bit of a love-hate thing going on with my Gilded - it's very direct and to-the-point with me!

;)

[Piper]

As a Sag, I've found myself very attracted for a few years to the Robin Wood. I finally broke down and bought it today through Amazon, so I guess we'll see how my relationship works with it if it really is an Air sign.

[Glass Owl]

I found a site where you can do an online quiz to determine your Jung Myer Briggs Personality type and the result includes a court tarot card that fits your type! You get to pick the deck that it comes from--there are several decks to chose from.

http://www.students-of-tarot.com/pers/index2.htm

[Piper]

This is interesting, I've always seen myself as a Q/S, but its putting me as either a Q/P or a Q/W.....fascinating.

[Akatala]

My Matt Myers deck... is both earth and and air. It's colorful and diverse in its characters while also very very intuitive. It allows me to work with both earthly aspects as well as aspects of communication and the spirit realm.

My Selena Lin deck, though.. I'd call it fire and earth. It's like a Hollywood plastic Barbie doll with all the cute looks but no brains. It's been decommissioned to a self to serve as a mere collector's item. T_T*

[cardlady22]

sapienza obsessed (I mean inspired) me with this, so I'm resurrecting it. These are based on the decks I own (or am waiting for) so there is an inherent limitation.

Renaissance Tarot (Williams) ?1 Aries/Pluto
Babylonian Tarot ?2 Taurus/Bacchus
Witchy Tarot (mini) ?3 Gemini/Vulcan
Universal Goddess Tarot ?4 Cancer/Moon
Le Veritable Tarot de Marseille (Hadar) ?5 Leo/Sun *or any Marseilles*
The Animal-Wise Tarot (Andrews) ?6 Virgo/Mercury
Pythagorean Tarot ?7 Libra/Venus
Dragon Tarot (Suckling/Garland) ?8 Scorpio/Mars
Transparent Tarot ?9 Sagittarius/Jupiter
Gummy Bear Tarot ?10 Capricorn/Saturn *or any Waite/Colman-Smith*
AC's Thoth Tarot Deck (Weiser) ?11 Aquarius/Uranus
Easy Tarot kit/Gilded (Ellershaw/Marchetti) ?12 Pisces/Neptune

NOTE: These rulerships are based on Iain McLaren-Owen's system for playing cards, which uses a Leo start point.

Since playing cards (& sibilla decks) have such an interesting correlation to the calendar, I am viewing them as "for all days & times" with a rulership by the Earth.

~*~*~*~

Playing with the seasons/festivals; the year starting at the winter solstice:

Green Man Tree Oracle ?Yule/winter solstice N *or any ogham*

Paracelsus Oracle Cards *for geomancy* ?Imbolc NE

The I Ching (AGM Urania) ?Ostara/spring equinox E

Lenormand Oracle (Lo Scarabeo) ?Beltane SE *or any Lenormand*

AORA Gemstone Oracle ?Litha/summer solstice S *or any gemstone*

The Mayan Oracle ?Lughnasadh SW

The Power of the Runes (AGMuller) ?Mabon/fall equinox W

Enchanted Oracle (Jessica Galbreth) ?Samhain NW *or any Gothic/Vampire*

[Linda Gomez]

Fascinating and perhaps a designer of a deck projects his/her own 'sun sign' into the design and a reader/owner of a deck does the same thing. I've never thought of this and find it all quite interesting.

Color is certainly a clue and if we printed the cards in grayscale or black and white, would be interesting to consider how a particular sun sign might be represented.

No, I prefer to think that anyone who makes the effort to design a deck that others might purchase and find useful would want to incorporate all of the basic elements, planets, signs, etc. without letting their sun sign take over.

But, then again, egos, being as they are, lead me to believe that we might find, if we look carerfully, the designers dominant hand at play in their deck.

Thanks for posting this interesting proposition.

Linda

[cardlady22]

Thanks for the thoughts, Linda! I'm more interested in compiling which artists & styles might appeal to someone of a particular zodiac sign. And I don't think I would focus on/limit to the Sun Sign. Moon & Rising Signs might be more revealing.

I'm using this more as a way to get to know decks . . . and myself. I want to follow how my associations may change after I learn more. It's also a tentative way to devote a certain amount of time to each of my new friends as the new year progresses. I've collected oracle decks for a few years, but tarot is only 8 months old for me!

[CQLDGUY]

I would have thought the Marseilles decks were Cancer, I have a strong connection to my Marseilles de Conver. It always read extremely accurately. I am also being drawn tot he Crowley Thoth for some reason. I don't own one yet, but It is all I can think about at the moment, I even dream about using it. Maybe it is just me, I am Cancerian, INFJ Meyer-Biggs personality, born in the year of the snake. Maybe I am just overly intuitive!