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(Original post below)
News: the studygroup has been revived! Yay!
For each card, we have decided to post, if technically and legally possible, the full tale (or a link to it) - and to restard the discussion.
The pace of the group with be relatively fast (but not furious), with several cards per week. Of course, all revived cards are open to discussion, even several weeks after their revival.
The following card threads have already been revived:
The Fool: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=63966
The Magician: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=66761
The High Priestess: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=1872763&posted=1#post1872763
The full index for the study group, including those threads that have not yet been revived is maintained by Sulis and available here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=859302
See you there!
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Original post:
Hello.
I am currently in the process of thoroughly studying the fairytale tarot (Magic realist).
I was wondering if anyone would be interested in reviving the study group that started some time ago but is now as full of life as a dead snail.
My idea is the following :
* We start each card with the full version of the tale (if available and public domain - no copyright violation intended)
* We can then all jot down our analyses and random thoughts about the card
* I'd prefer if the pace was relatively quick for two reasons: I don't want the process to take two years and I fear people might lose interest if it takes too long (maybe what happened to the previous study group ?)
* If it garners enough interest and good ideas, I might compile a web page about our most interesting findings, so that everyone can enjoy our discussion in an accessible format.
Finally I have one question: is it ok to start a new group or is it more or less mandatory to continue with the previous one ? I'd strongly prefer to start a new one, because of the structure and because the previous one didn't get very far, but I don't want to if it's considered as really bad behaviour.
Please let me know if you would like to join such an adventure.
Take care,
Xavier
Hi, I'd love to see that particular studygroup revived. It's one of my favourite decks, but it's been lying around for a while, and I would like to work with it again.
I'm not sure if it's okay to start a completely new studygroup, though.
thorhammer
01-06-2009, 20:25
The usual format is that you *revive* a thread that already has been started - if there isn't a thread for a particular card, then go right ahead and start one, just let Sulis know in a PM (include the link) so that she can keep the reference index up to date.
It's really interesting to keep on adding to old study group threads, just so that the information's all in one place and a newcomer interested in the deck can find everyone's comments easily.
\m/ Kat
Despite my almost legendary fickleness for deck, I am drawn to be sure and get the Magic Fealist Press decks. I was reading with my Victorian Romantic deck and it told me to get the FairyTale deck next so today or tomorrow I will be ordering one.
I unable to commit to anything at least untill I get the deck but I would agree that a quick paced study would be the way to go. The biggest factor is leadership. Someone who is focused enough to move us along when its time.
Onyx.
DaisyDragonfly
02-06-2009, 05:42
I'm interested. :)
I love the deck and loving the ancillary study it's bringing about: I now know more about Little Red Riding Hood then I did before ('Little Red Riding Hood is the evening, with its scarlet robe of twilight, who is swallowed by the wolf of darkness, the Fenris of the Edda.' Now there's something to think about when you draw the card).
Plus, it's pretty. So I'd love to be part of its study group.
cardlady22
02-06-2009, 07:55
I'll be popping in when I can!
I was thinking about it all day at work and I decided to break down and get my copy. Amazon.com only had three left (and though they promise more are on the way, I know better!) It won't even ship for a week. So hopefully in a two weeks I will get my copy.
Onyx.
Thanks for your interest.
So there would be at least five of us who would be interested to participate.
I think we can do something with that.
I'll post something more detailed tonight (european time) so that we may begin (again). And, we'll build on what has already been done with the existing study group.
Take care.
Hi Folks,
I've added this thread to the Fairytale Tarot index thread:http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=859302
Please let me know by PM when you start any new threads so that they can be indexed.
Thanks,
Sulis - Tarot Study Groups moderator
It would seem that the first order of business for this study would be to find public domain versions of the stories.
I was thinking that even if I don't have my deck yet I could still contribute my take on the story and the card inages since they are on line.
My major set back right now would be to find a list or index of the stories to find.
The companion book only has abridged versions of the stories right?
Onyx.
cardlady22
03-06-2009, 00:16
I'll look through things and get back with you, Onyx. Your local library might be the best resource. Inter-library loan is an incredible thing!
I think Dover Publications has a series of books edited by Andrew Lang: The Blue Fairy Book, the Red Fairy Book, etc.
@Sulis
Thank you for updating the studygroup index
@Onyx
Well, don't worry too much about hunting the full stories : I have already done it for myself for the first cards. The only one that has been evading me is a public domain translation of the tale of Libuse, by Jirasek. I know it's been treanslated in english (I found mention of a translation by a certain Bessie Barborka) and the translation should be old enough to be public domain, but I can't find it on the net. Some derivation of this translation, written in 1922 can be found here :
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zrcxfd5tehMC&pg=PA263&lpg=PA263&dq=libuse+jirasek+Bessie+Barborka&source=bl&ots=nSkYgOwYbe&sig=UUZmcLf18IIpepEJpjSfYRAGXxo&hl=en&ei=90olSov2A4eU_Qbul5zcBw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2
but it cannot be considered authoritative.
Also, Onyx, you will be able to follow most of our discussions by turning to the official site for the deck, where you can find about 80% of the cards scanned (I suppose they didn't scan them all so as to avoid theft of their work).
http://www.fairytaletarot.com/majors.htm
And yes, the companion book has only abdridged versions of the tales, but Karen Mahony has done a good job at writing them, and has kept almsot all important elements in her summaries (except in the most complex and evocative tales, like the Nightingale by Andersen for example). Nevertheless, reading the full story is always interesting, if only for literary reasons.
@all
within a couple of hours, I will post the full text of "The poor miller's boy and the little cat" at the end of the (pre-existing) Fool thread, as an official start for the revival.
I propose we do one card a day (with of course the opportunity to come back later to previous cards)for 5 days, and evaluate the pace and format of our discussions at that time.
see you soon.
DaisyDragonfly
03-06-2009, 02:56
A good website to use is SurLaLane fairytales (will hunt out link and post). They often have multiple versions of a story, along with any annotations or links to research.
Hi.
I have now posted the full story for the fool, as well as my own comments on the card (in two separate posts).
Please turn to http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=1869997 to read the story (you may have to scroll down a little). And please let's start the discussion.
See you there !
Also, Onyx, you will be able to follow most of our discussions by turning to the official site for the deck, where you can find about 80% of the cards scanned (I suppose they didn't scan them all so as to avoid theft of their work).
http://www.fairytaletarot.com/majors.htm
That goes to show just how observant I am. I would look at the site images and just asssumed they were all there. I guess I would get too wrapped up in the images that they showed to not notice that the High Priestess was missing.
Thanks for the head's up.
Onyx.
eta: I just got e-mail notification that my deck has been shipped. It looks like next week it should be here.
I know I have said that I would restart one card-thread a day for five days, but I will wait until at least someone else comments on the fool before I post the full story of "The magician".
I want to be sure I will not be alone in the revived study group. :)
If it the discussions do not take off, I will probably just study the deck on my own and publish a collection of the most (self-proclaimed :) )interesting analyses I have made on my web site.
But I am still confident we can revive this group.
Take care,
Xavier
The tale of the magician has been posted in its thread:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=66761
For a list of "revived" cards, please see the first post of this thread, which will be updated regularly.
Wishing you the best,
Xavier
High priestess posted (although it lacks a full story)
http://tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=119345
Xavier, I think it is a great idea to create an index in this thread for our revival and continue to use the original card threads for the study.
This will allow our revival to contribute to the whole study effort and allow us in this revival to keep track of where we are.
I am still waitung on my deck and book. Since the card is not posted on the MRP site nor is there a copy of the story I am at a loss.
As soon as I get it I will review it and post. If you want to move on for momentum sake then go right ahead.
Just wanted to affirm that I am with yoU.
Onyx.
I got my deck today and boy is it pretty and overwhelming.
Stuck in traffic for nearly an hour I had time to check the delivery status on my phone and I was in agony as I had to wait to get home to get it.
Love the coloring and the artwork, knew I would.
Diving into the book now and the the deck.
I will be back up for air in a couple of hours.
Onyx.
Great news. I hope you two will get along well :)
Master_Margarita
17-05-2010, 00:30
I was stuck waiting for someone for about an hour-and-half last night and had the companion book to the Fairytale Tarot with me. Can I just say--wow. Amazing quality of book, enormous amount of thought put into designing the cards.
Haven't done a reading yet with the deck. It may take years before I do so.
:heart: M_M~