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For those of you interested in Ouija, there is a site that I stumbled across about a year ago. It’s one of my favorites. It’s called the Museum of the Talking Board at; http://www.museumoftalkingboards.com/
With history, art, custom boards, “how-to” and piles of links, it’ll keep you busy for a while.
I'm sure a lot of you have visited the museum before but for those that haven’t, enjoy!
purplelady
15-10-2001, 22:52
why thanx blue, I've never heard of it before , but how interesting.
Jeanette
16-10-2001, 14:10
Blue, I am scared to death of the Ouija board. Years ago I had a very scarey experience with one, I don't want anything to do with one now! It was terrible, I'll never forget it. The board started telling things that seemed almost evil, and when we asked if the force behind it was good or evil, it spelled evil. That did it for me!! I hope no one else has this experience.
Jeanette: We had a real creepy experience with the ouija board too!!! Here's what happened - one of the members playing with the board started to look funny. Then he started to speak in a completely different voice and he literally took on a green hue! He was trying to express himself but all he could muster was strangling kind of noises. His features changed - he didn't even look like himself. We asked the board his name and intent - all that was spelled out was: evil. We broke the circle immediately. The guy who had "transformed" became himself again but felt super freaked out. Later that night, and for several nights afterwards, he was awakened in the middle of the night by what he called "someone slapping him hard across the face". Of course, there was never anyone in the room - except for this creepy discarnate presence. CREEEPPPPYYYYY!!!! We never touched that board ever again (that was many years ago).
Jeanette
16-10-2001, 17:19
Deso, that must have been horrifying for everyone. I don't see how a wooden board and plastic pointer can cause such things, but I truly believe they can and do. I wonder, has anyone else had experiences like this? My stepmom and I were using it when it happened to us, but it was not nearly as weird as what you experienced. YIKES!!!! I don't even want one in my house!!
Wow, did this post take an unintended turn. I realize some people have had bad experiences with Ouija boards. I also know that people I know have had terrifying encounters with Tarot. How do we explain that? Is it the object, the technique, the operators or some undiscover influence eminating from Camden, South Dakota?
Personally, I've always been on fairly good terms with all the Ouijas. What ever their true nature, I still like the site! I always enjoy visiting it around this time of year.
as the moderator of this section of aecletic tarot forums i have to read all the posts but i can tell you i hoped that this one would just be ignored when i saw it. i have heard and seen such dark, negative experiences with these 'portals'. that's what i believe they are. they open a portal and negative spirits can easily come through these.
you can believe or disbelieve in these, but personally i've never heard of a good experience with them and i even dread having to read the posts on them.
that said, now i suppose everyone will post on this topic like crazy. just my luck.
(joking) solandia, can i be reassigned? LOL
love and total complete light,
jade
dolphingirl
17-10-2001, 02:02
hi
I had to chime in. I have used Ouija boards and have had nothing but good experiences with them. Even if you do not use one some of the artwork put into creating them are stunning in their beauty.
Thanks for posting the site again :)
Samantha
Jeanette
17-10-2001, 07:33
Jade, thanks for applying the term of "portals" to the Ouija. I had tried to describe to friends what I thought the Ouija was, but words failed me. Now I can explain it better! So sorry you have to get involved in this discussion, maybe it will take a surprise turn?! Jeanette
tiger lily
17-10-2001, 12:12
blue (17 Oct, 2001 08:11):
I realize some people have had bad experiences with Ouija boards. I also know that people I know have had terrifying encounters with Tarot.
Really? With TAROT?? Oh, please, let us hear some truly terrifying tarot ghost stories! I mean, it *is* almost Halloween...
LOL i have never heard of a terrifying experience with the tarot.
jade
An acquaintance of mine was recounting some experiences he had years before. Now remember, when he was telling this story he didn’t know I had any involvement with Tarot.
It seems that more than once during his youth, he and a friend used a Tarot deck to raise demons. At this point I started to tune out his rant as the product of a religious conservative’s attempt to impress us with the need for “salvation.” However, what did get my attention was his obvious discomfort with the subject. Something, real or imagined, had frightened this man. I truly don’t think he is a good enough actor to be putting me on.
Which leads me to wonder if any form of “divination” doesn’t hold the potential for a bad experience? I don’t think that makes any particular form evil in and of itself. The answer to a question like this would be nothing more than speculation on my part and needs to be answered to the satisfaction of the individual involved.
I’ve has some terrifying experiences in my life but not with Tarot or any other form of “divination.” The one that stand out in my mind occurred after one of my early experiences with Tai Chi. I’ve never heard of it happening to anyone else and it’s never happened to me again (thankfully). I have to conclude that the experience might have been caused by something other than the practice itself, but what, I’ll probably never know.
tarotbear
18-10-2001, 12:26
" Never open a door you do not know how to close".
I say this to many people, young people, especially, when they start asking about Ouija boards and stuff, especially at this time of year. People all 'accept' the idea that you are contacting the 'spirit world' when you use a ouija board-- after all, isn't that the purpose? You have no idea what kind of spirit is floating around out there, and what can be attracted when a 'signal flare' goes up, such as a bunch of kids chanting for a spirit to appear. If you are going to take this chance, I suggest you cast a cirle of protection around yourself first. When you are finished, dismiss everything that may be lingering, then ground yourself thoroughly.
I have never heard of anyone having bad experiences with tarot; wasn't that the plot of a movie about a year or so ago- that a certain layout of certain cards would call the devil to appear?
blue (18 Oct, 2001 20:43):
The one that stand out in my mind occurred after one of my early experiences with Tai Chi. I’ve never heard of it happening to anyone else and it’s never happened to me again (thankfully).
Okay... now that is amazing. Tai Chi, which I practiced for several years, is a form of slow motion exercise and has nothing to do with divination. ???
I can't say I've ever known anyone who had an "evil" tarot experience ....... actually, not even a "negative" type of experience.
Marion;
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Okay... now that is amazing. Tai Chi, which I practiced for several years, is a form of slow motion exercise and has nothing to do with divination.
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No kidding.
You can imagine my surprise!
[quote]tarotbear (19 Oct, 2001 02:26):
" Never open a door you do not know how to close".
I say this to many people, young people, especially, when they start asking about Ouija boards and stuff, especially at this time of year. People all 'accept' the idea that you are contacting the 'spirit world' when you use a ouija board-- after all, isn't that the purpose? You have no idea what kind of spirit is floating around out there, and what can be attracted when a 'signal flare' goes up, such as a bunch of kids chanting for a spirit to appear. If you are going to take this chance, I suggest you cast a cirle of protection around yourself first. When you are finished, dismiss everything that may be lingering, then ground yourself thoroughly.
Tarotbear,
bout a Ouija board at a toy store a week or so ago, used it this week (before reading post) and was just told my husband was going to die, when and where (from a spirit that claims to be 9 and died in 1938).
I obviously feel he was playing on my deepest fears and was able to read my mind - He also told me some wonderful things...was able to give clues only I would know.
So, Could you explain about casting a protective circle and grounding.
cj
cj,
i also recommend you performing a banishing ritual to command any spirits/entities that you welcomed into your home and reality - thru the board - to leave.
love and light,
jade
tarotbear
20-10-2001, 01:36
OK - 'Wicca 101' in 100 words or less:
Unlike ceremonial magicians who cast a circle to contain the energy/spirit/force they are going to deal with, you are casting a circle to protect you from outside forces. It may be called a circle, but in reality it is a sphere- a 360 degree ball that you are casting around your space to act as a filter and a wall. This is very non-specific so I don't accidently insult anyone's 'tradition'. Basically, you find and start in the East and say something like " Spirits of the East-welcome, and guard the circle we build here". You can invoke a diety, spirits, the elements- whatever. You then take you finger/knife/sword and draw a 1/4 circle to the South imagining white light, blue flame, or whatever you like to visualize the circle being created. You stop in the South and say 'Spirits of the South- welcome, and guard the circle we build here". Continue to draw the line to the West, call on the West, continue to the North, call on the north, then continue to the East and complete the circle. See it as a sphere. Stand in the center and call on whatever diety you feel akin with. Welcome them and ask them to guard the circle. You can accompany this with music, incense, lighting candles, etc..
Conduct whetever you wish in the circle-know that you are being protected.
At the conclusion, dismiss the circle. Some people start in the East and work widdershins ( counter clockwise), some go in the same direction they used to build the circle. Thank the spirits of that direction for protecting you. Continue around the circle doing so. Go to the center of the circle and thank your diety for participating and protecting you. It is customary to address the ethers with something that ends :"We thank you for your help here today, but before you part for your realms, remember to harm none when you go. The circle is open, but it is unbroken". ( and us pagan-types add 'Merry Meet; Merry Part; Merry Meet Again".)
Whew!
Blue: Although I have a niggling acquaintance with Ouija & choose not to associate with it (had a dubious experience years ago with one I owned), I still find the website fascinating!! It is truly unique :)
Thank you for sharing as it should help provide intelligent information.
You raise an interesting point about the potential of bad experiences with any form of divination. I suppose there is the possibility of this, but experiencing trauma with any such thing may lie with the individual & the particular circumstance. There are so many variables involved that it would be difficult to even conjecture. Even an experience perceived as a "bad" one carries a message of sorts.
Tarotbear: I like your circle in a minute--it is easy to comprehend since you've distilled the process admirably!
truthsayer
20-10-2001, 11:57
i tried the ouija website. didn't learn anything i wanted to hear so i guess i shouldn't have asked? :D i can't remember having a bad ouija experience even tho my mother tried to use one w/ me when i was a child. perhaps it was plain dumb luck nothing happened. we just pushed it thing around the board making nonsense words. my mother, siblings and i played around w/ all kinds of divination for years before anything bad happened. i think i was around 20 and my youngest sister around 10. we were playing w/ automatic writing. she contacted a malevolent spirit that loved her and hated the rest of us. we started having poltergiest activity at night. vases being broken, footsteps and other odd noises all over the house. my sister took to sleeping w/ the lights in her room on, the tv blaring and the radio playing in order to tune out the noise of the restless spirits. i made the mistake of staying in the room w/ her one night. she was 12 by then. i was awakened about 3 am by a spirit pacing from my bed to hers shaking each bed as it passed. i could actually hear the footsteps. i was too afraid to move the next few hours until dawn. it was a few years before i'd stay at my mother's house again. seeing or hearing spirits in this house was nothing new to me. i'd heard spirits there since i was around 11 that others eventually confirmed they heard, too. but this was the first time i was that terrified. it took about 10 years before the activity in the house died down. believe me, we don't want to do anything that might call whatever it was up again! back then i didn't know about casting circles of protection of anything like that. if anything like it happens again, i will definitely do so w/o hesistation!!!!!!!!!
tarotbear
20-10-2001, 12:03
Thank you. Meewah! As we enter into the season of Samhain, maybe everyone should learn to cast a circle.
As for grounding- that is something that works differently for different people and sometimes you have to experiment with several different ways to find which works best for you, or in a particular situation. Some people stand and picture roots growing out of their feet, going through the floor into the earth and all the excess energy draining away and out of them. Some people merely go 'outside' and stand on the grass, take a walk on the beach - somewhere out in nature but far from the madding crowds. Sometimes it is best to take a shower and picture the excess energy washing off you and down the drain. Basically, grounding is a 'stilling' process where you learn to recognise what is happening and shedding what you don't want, then seeing it dissapate so it doesn't bother anyone else.
MeeWah;
Thanks!
That web site was the reason I started the post. So much quirky information and such wonderfull art.
I'm very glad you enjoyed it.
purplelady
21-10-2001, 11:11
jade (17 Oct, 2001 14:55):
as the moderator of this section of aecletic tarot forums i have to read all the posts but i can tell you i hoped that this one would just be ignored when i saw it. i have heard and seen such dark, negative experiences with these 'portals'. that's what i believe they are. they open a portal and negative spirits can easily come through these.
you can believe or disbelieve in these, but personally i've never heard of a good experience with them and i even dread having to read the posts on them.
that said, now i suppose everyone will post on this topic like crazy. just my luck.
(joking) solandia, can i be reassigned? LOL
love and total complete light,
jade
Jade, have you ever heard of the "Seth" books by Jane Roberts? Or the "Michael" books by Chelsea Quinn Yarboro ? Both were some of the most popular and metaphysical channeled books , and Both channelled spirits originally came through on a ouiga board. I have no idea if you have read or are familiar with either of these. But I have read most all the books on both of them and I believe there is much light and wisdom there , and that they are not "evil".
If ouiga is a portal , doesn't it have the Potential for both good and bad to come through? Wouldn't the portal itself be neutral? It possibly does have the potential for bad spirits, and I would be cautious for sure. But I was just pointing out that I Believe some "Good spirits " have come through ouiga boards at times also. And other forms of divination would have the potential for good or evil , even tarot cards!
I've just paid a visit to the Ouija site, (that's just about as close as I want to get to a spirit board) certainly informative but I get the cold shivers when I think of all those spirit boards been received as gifts, played with by children and all the damage they can do.
I've posted on these boards before about spirit boards, don't understand how they can be sold as toys and would never have one in my house - I've seen what they can do and have no intention of being that close to one again.
purplelady,
i agree that positive entities can come thru a board...............but i don't know many inexperienced children, teens or adults understand the need to set up the protections and cautions to get to the positive. my concern is for them.
i have personally done more than a few banishing rituals at someone's home because they have negative spirits playing havoc.
besides, i'm allowed to have my opinion and my opinion of ouija boards is not a postive one.
blessed be.
jade
Hi to All,
I find that the mere word Ouija stirs up many emotions in people. My friend in England told me recently that Ouija has been banned there for years, I had no idea. I remember reading in a book that psychics there were protesting at one time to take them out of children's hands. It seems that in america alot of classic psychic writers push the Ouija as a tool and the Christian movement calls it the devil's toy.
I've used Ouija for many years and I do think there is something spiritual to it. The subconcious mind is, in my humble opinion, directing the planchette some of the time. I also think the subconcious mind is a repressed and angry part of one's personality. I've played it with certain people and everytime it would spell out nasty and violent things. Some people need to leave the dark half "dark" and leave Ouija playing to the more sage type of persons.
I don't talk on the board very much anymore, for some reason when playing it often ,in the last few years, I know what it's going to spell ahead of time. I also had a couple of hauntings (maybe caused by Ouija??) that kept me up all night with noises like dishes rattling. They stole and hid stuff too. LOL... I have an antique wood Fuld "Mystifying Oracle" model that sits in my closet and a I pull it out everyonce in awhile, but if I get a feeling like I'm being tricked or lied to, I put it away again.
I used to be puzzled at people who were afraid of Ouija, but honestly now I do think it could cause alot of harm and be very dangerous depending on the circumstances.
A good psychic friend gave me this advice "With Ouija/Automatic writing it is like you are talking on the phone, the problem is that you don't know who the hell your talking to or that person's intentions". Hmmm that makes me think really hard about talking board sets.
God Bless,
Freddie
tarotbear
26-10-2001, 02:49
[quote]Freddie (25 Oct, 2001 12:17):
A good psychic friend gave me this advice "With Ouija/Automatic writing it is like you are talking on the phone, the problem is that you don't know who the hell your talking to or that person's intentions". Hmmm that makes me think really hard about talking board sets.
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OUCH! That's a very scarey, but excellent way to phrase it.
Has anyone had ZOZO appear on their boards?
My friend needed an exorcism like ritual to absolve himself of this Ouija board terror that followed him throughout the US. Finally ZOZO moved on. I have heard of a few people that have had this entity take over their boards and cause really weird things to occur....hmmm.
Personally I have had no 'real' bad experiences with the board. As a paranormal reseacher I plan to use a board with caution to open direct contact with some entities who I know all too personnally.
Look forward to results this Novemebr......
Malachite
30-10-2001, 15:05
Is to consecrate your board when you get it, possibly using a ritual similar to Tarotbear's protective circle, although there are no doubt more appropriate consecration rituals...ask your spirit guide/deity to shield you from the most damaging spirits...
alternatively, keep away from the darn things...
Personally, I think it is probably the internal power of darkness that draws 'evil' spirits...light draws power from company and reflection, but darkness is strongest on its own, and a single dark spirit can pass through the portal of a ouija board easier than a host of good spirits...
purplelady
01-11-2001, 12:35
Freddie (25 Oct, 2001 12:17):
Hi to All,
I've used Ouija for many years and I do think there is something spiritual to it. The subconcious mind is, in my humble opinion, directing the planchette some of the time. I also think the subconcious mind is a repressed and angry part of one's personality. I've played it with certain people and everytime it would spell out nasty and violent things. Some people need to leave the dark half "dark" and leave Ouija playing to the more sage type of persons.
God Bless,
Freddie
That is my basic belief, that ouija comes from the minds of the people using it, the unconscious. Maybe it's because I read many psychology/psychiatry books as a teenager. I'm not trying to dispute anyone's opinion or experiences. All I know is my own experiences. My last experience with a ouija board was many years ago. I bought the board and let my son ,about 8 or 9 at the time , and his friend play with it. That was definately my mistake . They decided to ask it repeatedly when they would die. I took the board away and no one has used it since! However , I have no reason to believe an "evil spirit" answered.
And it was totally my fault for letting them play with it unattended for an hour or so. I would never let kids do that again!
purplelady
01-11-2001, 12:43
Malachite (31 Oct, 2001 05:05):
Personally, I think it is probably the internal power of darkness that draws 'evil' spirits...light draws power from company and reflection, but darkness is strongest on its own, and a single dark spirit can pass through the portal of a ouija board easier than a host of good spirits...
If there are "evil spirits" ,do they originally come from the subconscious portion of mankind or the universe. Aren't they ultimately a Part of us?Can the universe or mankind really be healed without healing all of it's parts, dark and light? I know that's a tall order! Also , I fail to see how a dark or evil spirit can pass through a ouija board easier than a light spirit. Isn't That in the mind of the beholder? People Believe that darkness is stronger. It is a belief. Why isn't light just as strong as the dark? It is my belief that light spirits are just as strong as dark. And I've never heard that darkness is strongest on it's own but light needs company! I fail to see how that is so , nor do I believe it!!!
I also wanted to thank you Blue, I have always been interested in Ouija, I have never actually had any experiences with it tho... I have tried on several accounts, with different people and a couple of different places, but i still have yet to have an "encounter". It still facinates me tho.
I went to the sight you mentioned and read almost the whole thing, it was really neat giving the origin and history of the boards, and there are a lot of really cool renditions of the boards. I also thought the Faq's and answers were hilarious!!
Thanx again! I Thouroughly enjoyed it!
*Smile*
purplelady (02 Nov, 2001 02:43): Also , I fail to see how a dark or evil spirit can pass through a ouija board easier than a light spirit.
it is my belief and understanding that the dark or lower spirits sit at the portals waiting to slip through, whereas the light spirits are not. that's why so many dark spirits come thru the portals and thru the boards.
love and light, light, light,
jade
also, purplelady, i agree with you.......light is stronger than dark, which is why, when you shine a light on darkness, it disappears.
love and light,
jade
Ophelia;
Thanks so much!
It looks as if my work here is done.