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Fire Cat
23-11-2009, 20:24
How unusual is it to have several aspects or transits coming up in your natal and transits chart? I noticed that I have so many it is almost ridiculous. Here is a sampling:

Transiting Mars conjunct Moon
Transiting Saturn conjunct Jupiter
Transiting Venus conjunct Mars
Transiting Sun conjunct Mars
Transiting Mercury conjunct Mars
Transiting Moon trine Venus
Transiting Moon sextile Saturn
Transiting Moon opposition Moon
Transiting Moon trine Jupiter
Transiting Moon sextile Mars

Some of these aren't quite in aspect just yet but will be in a few days of one another (see attachment). I also stopped at "moon" but will come back and count more angles later.

There are more, minor aspects such as quincunx and semi-sextiles that I am not "counting," and even the outer planets I have left out. Do I look at each one separately or does the sheer number of transits involved intensify the effects of the other?

Bernice
23-11-2009, 20:45
Hi ya KK,

The chart says it's a Natal and Transits chart, not a progressed chart. So these are the transisting bodies to your birth 'planets'.

Usually, as a broad generalisation (:)), I think it may only be when a transisting body contacting a natal planet with which there is also a natal contact, that may indicate an enhancement of whatever it means for you natally.

Hope that makes sense KK. However, Minderwiz or Dadsnook may have a diferent slant on it. Can you get a Progressed Chart - for this year, or whatever year you're interested in?

Bee :)

dadsnook2000
23-11-2009, 21:26
If this was a progressed chart, and not a natal & transits chart, your belief that there were innumerable conjunctions would appear to be wrong. Progression charts typically have small planet movement for each symbolic year. A full degree of separation might be too much to allow for many combination, especially for Mars outward as those planets move very little in a day's time.

For transits, more allowance is often allowed because of the movement over several days time. For Solar Arc Directions every planet is moved at the Sun's rate which is almost a degree per day/year. Dave

Minderwiz
23-11-2009, 22:02
The 'Transits' are clearly today's positions, so at best we're looking at a transit to natal chart, as Bee points out and as stated on the chart.

As Dave points out, aspects from progressed planets have to be treated in a different way, with much smaller orbs to be considered as important. Those Astrologers who use the outer planets, tend to place more emphasis on their transits, whilst placing more emphasis on the progressions of Mars inwards.

Such a number of transits is interesting and might have some significance IF there are other indicators that something is likely to happen in the near future. The transits can then be used to determine the timing of the event. Transits on their own are no guarantee of anything.

Fire Cat
23-11-2009, 23:47
Thank you for the replies! I certainly meant transits instead of progressed (I swear I do know the difference ;)).

Fire Cat
24-11-2009, 02:27
Minderwiz, if it's not too much trouble, could you please change the title from "Several Aspects in Progressed Chart" to "Several Aspects in Natal and Transits Chart" so I don't look like such a dufus? Thank you :)

dadsnook2000
24-11-2009, 03:37
Why should your kitty-tail be covered from being a Dufus? I just made a bad mistake on my blog-site, putting up a wrong chart for the day when a sniper started a shooting spree in Washington, DC back 2002. Now, tonight, I've got to edit the whole posting, chart, and analysis before too many people read it. We can all be a Dufus at one time or another. Join the club. Dave

Minderwiz
24-11-2009, 05:27
I could, but you'd also need to edit your first post in the thread as it's full of the word 'progressed' :)

I think if you edit your post you might also be able to edit the title, however as Dave says, we all put our foot in it at sometime :) :)

Curtis Penfold
24-11-2009, 05:30
Hey, how do you get your charts? I've seen us talking about this stuff before and everybody acting like they knew how the planets aligned and all that stuff. Is there a website for it? Can you get this information for free?

Minderwiz
24-11-2009, 07:14
http://www.astro.com/cgi/atxgen.cgi?btyp=xpht&lang=e

This site is used by most members who don't have their own Astrological software. You also can get a psychological report.

Fire Cat
24-11-2009, 09:57
I could, but you'd also need to edit your first post in the thread as it's full of the word 'progressed' :)

I think if you edit your post you might also be able to edit the title, however as Dave says, we all put our foot in it at sometime :) :)


People can read the thread and figure out what happened.

Fire Cat
24-11-2009, 10:03
Those Astrologers who use the outer planets, tend to place more emphasis on their transits, whilst placing more emphasis on the progressions of Mars inwards. So I should do more research on transits of the outer planets.


Such a number of transits is interesting and might have some significance IF there are other indicators that something is likely to happen in the near future. Would I look at what planets are in my natal chart or the transiting houses?

Minderwiz
24-11-2009, 19:31
So I should do more research on transits of the outer planets.

If you're inclined to a psychological approach then yes. Personally I don't use the outer planets as Astrology can function perfectly well without them.



Would I look at what planets are in my natal chart or the transiting houses?

You'd be looking for possible events signalled by a solar or other return chart, or primary (or other direction) chart. That should indicate the nature of the forthcoming event and the approximate period. The transit chart would be used for fine tuning the timing.

The nature of the event would be indicated by planets and houses involved mainly in your natal chart. Thus if your tenth house ruler is angular in a solar return chart, that may well indicate tenth house matters are going to be emphasised during the forthcoming year. Transits might then be used to determine exactly when during the year that will happen.

Now I've kept that statement very simple, as there are quite a few combination of methods that might be used before transits come into play - Dave might make use of Daily Return Charts, others might make use of lunar returns or secondary progressions, I've been trying out Primary Directions. The common features are that the natal chart is the prime chart and the others must be read in relation to it, and transits are the last step in the process (though the number of intermediate charts may vary considerably)

PS as you may have noticed, I've edited the thread title as per request :)