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Ethereal_Phoenix
17-12-2009, 06:29
I'm thinking about ordering one but I'm worried it won't work as good as Crystal. I heard it could be ''Evil'' as a scrying tool but I've always known it as intensely protective! I also think that the Black Obsidian will seem more like a doorway. Opinions?

kittiann
17-12-2009, 06:54
I have both a quartz ball and a black mirror for scrying (although for me it's more meditation than divination) and they both work fine for me. I think it's silly to classify one color as more 'evil' than other colors. My favorite scrying tool is a honey calcite sphere from therockshed.com; it has so many rainbows and inclusions that are only found in really expensive quartz. Basically, I'd say use whatever you feel comfortable with or that speaks to you.

celticnoodle
17-12-2009, 08:21
I agree--it's silly to assign a color to evil or not. I've also heard that Black Obsidian is a protective crystal. I do not see how it will be evil.

You can use a five and dime mirror to scry with and have great results! it really doesn't matter--its what speaks to you! I have expensive crystal balls and very inexpensive ones. interestingly enough, the cheaper one is the one that works best for me so far! :laugh: don't worry about it. buy it, enjoy it and love it and work with it! if you do this--its sure to be just as good for you! :) good luck! :)

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 02:04
I think it will work wonderfully! :)
Thank you for your opinions and help, I'm much happier knowing I'm not the only modern human who likes Black Obsidian!!

Sulis
18-12-2009, 02:22
I have a black rainbow obsidian sphere and it's my favourite thing to scry in. The 'rainbow' is a flaw that actually looks like an eye; it's gorgeous.

Black stones are protective and they're also very grounding. If I feel jittery at all I hold my obsidian sphere and it calms me down. Black stones are said to absorb negative energy (hence the protectiveness - they won't let the negativity get you).
It's nonsense to think that something is evil just because of it's colour.

When I scry with my black obsidian sphere I actually get what looks like mist floating just above it. It's very good for scrying with.

HearthCricket
18-12-2009, 02:30
I adore obsidian and find it very grounding and protective. I have some obsidian Witches Runes that I love and feel are very warm and inviting to use. I also have a golden sheen obsidian sphere which I love for scrying. The little flecks on it look like the universe and it really helps me reach in the beyond!

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 04:11
HearthCricket- That is GORGEOUS! How big is it? Does the Gold not distract you? Mine's going to be about 98mm.


Sulis- Same question for you! Do you not find the rainbow distracting? I very much enjoy the idea of a protective and grounding stone that's automatically there!

HearthCricket
18-12-2009, 05:46
Mine is about 3.6 inches in diameter. I scry with crystal balls that have rainbow inclusions, clear sections, misty sections and internal planes. They do not bother me at all. In fact for me they help. They help me concentrate and not focus on reflections that I see in a clear obsidian piece. Some people need that clarity, like an empty filmstrip, so the scrying can take place. But I find I do better with a little action going on or I find myself focusing on the reflections of the light above or around me, or images of my furniture or the person I am scrying for. However, I don't like super busy pieces either. I can't scry with a rose quartz sphere, for example, or orange calcite. But a semi transparent amethyst, pale citrine, or even a selenite sphere can be amazing!

Sulis
18-12-2009, 06:12
HearthCricket- That is GORGEOUS! How big is it? Does the Gold not distract you? Mine's going to be about 98mm.


Sulis- Same question for you! Do you not find the rainbow distracting? I very much enjoy the idea of a protective and grounding stone that's automatically there!

Hi Ethereal_Phoenix,

My sphere is very clear apart from the one rainbow 'eye' that it has and I the rainbow inclusion in it actually seems to make scrying easier, it's not distracting at all.

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 06:18
Mine is about 3.6 inches in diameter. I scry with crystal balls that have rainbow inclusions, clear sections, misty sections and internal planes. They do not bother me at all. In fact for me they help. They help me concentrate and not focus on reflections that I see in a clear obsidian piece. Some people need that clarity, like an empty filmstrip, so the scrying can take place. But I find I do better with a little action going on or I find myself focusing on the reflections of the light above or around me, or images of my furniture or the person I am scrying for. However, I don't like super busy pieces either. I can't scry with a rose quartz sphere, for example, or orange calcite. But a semi transparent amethyst, pale citrine, or even a selenite sphere can be amazing!


As much as I love the idea of a golden shimmering ball the pure black just looks so much more like a doorway into the unknown. (hoping not to get too far off topic)Are there any tips you have for interpreting?

HearthCricket
18-12-2009, 09:53
As much as I love the idea of a golden shimmering ball the pure black just looks so much more like a doorway into the unknown. (hoping not to get too far off topic)Are there any tips you have for interpreting?

Not at all, as this is the divination section. I would peek at a few other threads on scrying and really do what works best for you. Night? Day? What kind of lighting? What kind of atmosphere will work best for you? What do you need to do to get those excess thoughts out of your mind? Practice, practice, practice, but don't force it. I started fire scrying at a very early age, so scrying has always come naturally to me, but I need the house quiet and private, no voices or disturbance of any kind, so phones, etc., get turned off. Scrying takes time. Don't give up. Don't expect much on the first few tries. Sometimes I can tune in and get some very accurate information. Other times nothing but fog or maybe just an image or two. I can't force it. I find it far harder to scry than read tarot, oracles or runes. It is on a completely different plane. But I think too many people give up before they have the chance to really get going because they are frustrated with themselves. Scrying can also be very personal and dig up things unexpected. A book on symbols might be helpful, but keep your mind open. What a feather means to one person means something completely different to another. And that feather will mean something different in each scrying session. Good luck and enjoy!

canid
18-12-2009, 10:10
I really want a yellow obsidian sphere & think I may have finally found one. Here's a good site that explains scrying-

http://pjentoft.com/f-32-scrying.html

celticnoodle
18-12-2009, 10:52
HC gives some very helpful hints there for scrying. a few things I'll add to it--sometimes it can give you a headache. so if you do feel one coming on--STOP!!! immeditately and put the scrying material away for another day.

also--don't FORCE it. for me, and for many others I know who scry--it took many tries at it before getting anything. when you begin to see a 'fog' or clouds, you know you are close. or at least again, it was like that for me and others i know who scry. I'm not that good at it--I don't do it much. but, another thing that is really good to have on hand is a dream dictionary. you can use that to interpret symbols--it works great for me! after awhile, you won't need to use it, as you'll be able to figure it out on your own. however, till that time, dream books are wonderful and inexpensive.

as with anything else, though. enjoy yourself. if you cannot enjoy it--then don't do it. they still make gorgeous decor in any room! :)

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 11:13
I've always enjoyed looking into a candle flame and looking at the images that apppear inside it. When I do that it's usually just in a regular lit room sitting on a chair at my altar. Also, I am a psychic (always have been) very often my third eye will tingle but sometimes I'll feel TOO enlightened and get a headache, hopefully scrying into a ball will be no different from a flame because the flame I'm rather good at and rarely get a headache. OH! I just remembered something I was going to say earlier, I will often interpret wax poured into water but those symbols are much harder. :(

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 11:38
Do you have to and is it possible to bond with an Obsidian Sphere like a Crystal one? :)

celticnoodle
18-12-2009, 12:27
I do not see why not! :)

FatesLady
18-12-2009, 12:52
I just wanted to say that you guys suck. Yup, totally suck. I just went out and bought a golden sheen obsidian sphere thanks to you. I can't wait for it to get here, now.

celticnoodle
18-12-2009, 13:00
:laugh:

very cool though FatesLady! be sure to let us know how well it works for you. :)

AJ
18-12-2009, 13:02
FatesLady...hopeless.



I've been looking at a friends clear sphere for years, it might just be glass, it has bubbles in it, but it is SO stunning.
Divination is way to fun to be legal. Maybe that's why outsiders hate us so :)

HearthCricket
18-12-2009, 13:19
I just wanted to say that you guys suck. Yup, totally suck. I just went out and bought a golden sheen obsidian sphere thanks to you. I can't wait for it to get here, now.

LOL Cool! I can't wait to hear more about it and how you get on! Yes, this thread is very enabling. I have been eyeing a scrying plate for a few weeks and hubby is picking it up tomorrow. I've never tried one of these, but it is black and obsidian (I believe) and will be my first attempt to scry with something solid and shiny, not counting my little seer stones made of black onyx, which are quite useful and portable! Photos to come once I have it in my greedy hands...

FatesLady
18-12-2009, 13:39
I have a scrying bowl, which is black with a speckled white spiral pattern and a scrying mirror, which is really just glass painted black on the back, and they both help me trance out FAST, but I haven't had any visions yet. Still, the obsidian is just right for the kind of healing that I need to work on, and it is sooooo stunning.

Ethereal_Phoenix
18-12-2009, 16:15
Is a Scrying Plate anything like a Scrying Mirror? I was going to get an Obsidian Mirror but thought the sphere is far to enchanting to pass up and how different could they really be, you know? I used a chalice to scry in once or twice, couldn't see past my reflection though! lol

mingbop
18-12-2009, 20:33
I've got a black scrying mirror that I like, and a black obsidian ball. The husband took one look at it and said "it's a billiard ball, you've been done" LOL!
But I get on much better with black than with crystal.

canid
18-12-2009, 23:08
OK everybody, huddle up. Listen to Ming. I know firsthand she's touched; she has the sight.

Ming, do you use it at Circle? I do believe I'm off today to the rock store...

HearthCricket
19-12-2009, 06:10
Is a Scrying Plate anything like a Scrying Mirror? I was going to get an Obsidian Mirror but thought the sphere is far to enchanting to pass up and how different could they really be, you know? I used a chalice to scry in once or twice, couldn't see past my reflection though! lol


Well, I ended up not getting it. I was informed that it was obsidian, but after they told me the price, I got suspicious. Too cheap. It was just black glass. They did have another obsidian flat chunk, about 8 inches in diameter and heavy, but it had scratches on it and they were asking 155.00 for it. Crazy since the pure black surface was already ruined. So, I will be sticking with my spheres and seeing stones for now. If the right scrying bowl comes into my life, I will know it!

Ethereal_Phoenix
19-12-2009, 08:16
Ohh yea, ordering online terrifies me. I'm about to shell out nearly Two Hundred dollars total...I found the sites here on the ''Trusted gemstone sites'' Thread but I'm still worried. Pardon my asking but why have a scrying bowl if you already have a sphere?

HearthCricket
19-12-2009, 08:19
Ohh yea, ordering online terrifies me. I'm about to shell out nearly Two Hundred dollars total...I found the sites here on the ''Trusted gemstone sites'' Thread but I'm still worried. Pardon my asking but why have a scrying bowl if you already have a sphere?

To try something different, of course! Why have more than one book, or one tarot deck, one oracle or one movie you watch over and over again. To broaden one's horizons and, in this case, enjoy the challenge of working with a different tool and see what comes of it! :D

Ethereal_Phoenix
19-12-2009, 08:38
I'm eager to try a scrying bowl but didn't think about how scrying in water is different than a gem!! It's a nifty thing to know how to do!
1. Your Sphere could break and you would have a back up plan.
2. You could get stranded on a desert island and scry with the ocean water! lol I know if I got stranded I would scry all day and night!
I also didn't think about the fact that you could have better results with one or the other!

FatesLady
19-12-2009, 08:43
Different scrying tools might also suit different needs or emotions. I know which Tarot deck I turn to when I need a hug from the universe...

canid
19-12-2009, 09:07
I bought a 40x30mm oval onyx today for $9. Haven't tried it out yet. It fits right in my palm & is super shiny. My quartz ball works very well for me but I want to try something different.

Ethereal_Phoenix
20-12-2009, 01:41
That sounds pretty! When do you think you'll try it out?

Le Fanu
13-01-2010, 22:28
Just bought a black Obsidian scrying mirror (this thread helped!) the largest one I could find; 15 cm diameter and 8mm thick. Inspired by Dr Dee and his "shew stone"

I have had confirmation of order and stuff but no news as to whether it has shipped or not...

Can't wait for it to get here! I wanted a sphere but couldn't find any that I felt were large enough. I like BIG globes to look into!

ETA; just had confirmation that it shipped this afternoon! Hurrah! :)

Le Fanu
21-01-2010, 11:13
My Obsidian scrying mirror arrived today. It is absolutely beautiful. I fell in love with it as soon as I took it out of the package. I can hold it in the palm of my hand and gaze into it. Absolutely stunning. Highly polished and so easy to glare into and lose yourself. I love the fact that it has no fussy tacky frame; pure polished stone and nothing else. I've got a velvet bag on the way to keep it in. This is going to be such a prized addition to my tarot table!

I find it much more pleasing to stare into than my crystal ball!

flying black kat
21-01-2010, 11:50
One of the pieces I have that is black obsidian is egg shaped.

I use it and a egg shape lava rock (which is shades of blue) for grounding and balancing.

I think of black obsidian as beautiful and reassuring.

Kathy

Le Fanu
26-01-2010, 11:43
Here (http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/highlight_image.aspx?image=ps218302.jpg&retpage=20577) is a picture of Dr. Dee's Obsidian scrying mirror in the British Museum. Couldn't resist posting it here.

What a beauty! Came from the Aztecs in the 16th Century...

Grigori
26-01-2010, 12:22
I think there is some debate as to whether the mirror from the exhibit is really the one Dee used when receiving the Enochian system, but its still very nice to look at. A picture from my visit to the museum there is attached. You can also see a crystal sphere and Dee's wax sigils.

Le Fanu
26-01-2010, 21:20
O Wow! great pic! thank you so much for that; enables me to see it in its setting and everything! Love it! I'm still reading the Book of English Magic which is what led me to these images.

I see that his was 18cm in diameter (mine is 15cm:)) but it looks quite big in your picture.

Ethereal_Phoenix
12-02-2010, 03:37
I'm back! I haven't been on lately, life has been a little hectic.
Le Fanu, does your Scrying Mirror have a frame like a real mirror or is it a slate? Have you had any luck scrying yet? Also, does it have any particular qualities to it? :)
I got my sphere in the mail and it isn't pitch black, it actually has gold sparkles through it. Does anyone know the qualities of golden obsidian compared to black? It doesn't have an intense amount of gold but I feel it's enough to have different characteristics.

canid
12-02-2010, 05:50
I'm back! I haven't been on lately, life has been a little hectic.
Le Fanu, does your Scrying Mirror have a frame like a real mirror or is it a slate? Have you had any luck scrying yet? Also, does it have any particular qualities to it? :)
I got my sphere in the mail and it isn't pitch black, it actually has gold sparkles through it. Does anyone know the qualities of golden obsidian compared to black? It doesn't have an intense amount of gold but I feel it's enough to have different characteristics.

There's a thread here -

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=131195&highlight=black+mirror

I posted an image I made that's similar to what I see in my mirror. I use that & a crystal sphere. Have you checked out yellow obsidian? I waaant! I have one of these tumbled stones & it's stunning - it has blue, red, purple flash like emerald. I really want a sphere but they're hard to find.

Yellow obsidian (http://www.psychic-revelation.com/metaphysical_store/crystals/tumbled/CGS_180T_tumbled_obsidian_yellow.html)

Le Fanu
12-02-2010, 08:33
Le Fanu, does your Scrying Mirror have a frame like a real mirror or is it a slate? Have you had any luck scrying yet? Also, does it have any particular qualities to it? :)
I got my sphere in the mail and it isn't pitch black, it actually has gold sparkles through it. Does anyone know the qualities of golden obsidian compared to black? It doesn't have an intense amount of gold but I feel it's enough to have different characteristics.
My mirror is totally black. Looks like a 1cm thick slab of glass, but it's definitely Obsidian. It is absolutely beautiful, I'm madly in love with it. I had a crystal (probably glass) ball and would sit trying to scry but there's something about the roundness of it which distracted me (all the refractions & distortions of what was around me). My mirror has no frame. I tip it slightly so it reflects the blank, white ceiling and so there is nothing in the reflection to distract me. I find that I see swirls and cloudiness very quickly. No shapes, no recognisable forms at all. But I'm not trying for that. I see it as a meditative aid. I relax, light candles, blank my mind, gaze into the mirror and lose myself and feel myself entering another state, quite literally a sinking feeling. Maybe it's just relaxation, but I love it. I don't feel even slightly tempted to get a ball. The Mirror is perfect and not at all heavy (it is about 15cm diameter) to hold as I imagine a ball would be after 10 minutes. I also bought a beautiful obsidian palmstone last week. I just LOVE obsidian. I love rocks/stones which almost feel manmade/fake! There is something so smooth and flawless about black obsidian...

canid
12-02-2010, 09:53
For those of you in the NE Ohio area, the bi-annual Gemboree is April 24 at Emidio's in Cuyahoga Falls. I hope I can find a black obsidian mirror & a larger yellow obsidian piece.

Le Fanu
12-12-2010, 07:04
I have just got back from the Annual Lisbon Rock & Fossil Fair (I went on Wednesday when it opened but just had to go back again today before it finishes. Too many treasures to resist).

I bought a 10 cm Golden Sheen Obsidian Spehere and I am so thrilled I can hardly speak!

(I also bought, FYI, a gorgeous hunk of faceted Granada, polished to a deep, bloody red, a Spiral selenite tower, approx 20 cms tall, pendulums in tourmaline, Jaspar & Onyx and a rather expensive carved jade base for my sphere, but what the heck, it is only once a year.)

Oh but the Golden Sheen Obsidian. I simply cannot stop looking at it. I just want to bolt the doors and lose myself in it...

My tarot table is becoming full of dark, mysterious, velvety, masculine grounding stones :D

Inthetree
12-12-2010, 15:23
ooh, I love golden sheen obsidian! The sparkle on some pieces is just amazing. My favorite is still the rainbow sheen, however.

Those sound like lovely pieces, Le Fanu.. I definitely envy you that Rock and Fossil Fair :D