View Full Version : This Tarot site is SO Accurate- How does it work?
Dreamkitty
13-03-2010, 06:02
I don't know if anyone has used this site called "Facade" it has free tarot readings along with other oracle things.
But I typed my questions in and it was very accurate, Im wondering how it can work because Its not like im using my energy to shuffle the cards along with the fact that it is computer generated. So how does it know the answers? :)
http://www.facade.com/tarot/
OK, I checked it out. I'm not sure how you define 'so accurate', but if you're going by LWB meanings, you're right, it is. There are other applications out there that will give you a little white book definition, maybe even a bit beyond that. What they can't possibly do is introduce the human element, a person's intuition, as to what that card means in a particular situation & how it relates to the question, the surrounding cards & the spread, if one is using one with positional meanings. Let alone the deck & its specific imagery. What they did was simply interpret the traditional meanings of each card, with no interaction as regards the other cards, etc. It's like a dictionary.
ETA: My misspelling was driving me nuts so I fixed it.
Dreamkitty
13-03-2010, 08:06
It was incredibly accurate the first time I tried it today, now its not accurate when I try it now :(
When you say accurate - what do you mean ? It can't have said something was going to happen in the future as you wouldn't know yet; if it said something you expected - book meanings can do that....
In what way accurate ?
ETA I just tested it. I was not impressed. It made no sense at all, and cannot seem to answer a question in any way that is about the question. And it just puts up book meanings. You could do it with a book - though I admit, if that is the sort of reading you want, it beats turning the pages for yourself ;)
I had a go and echo the other comments it's just LWB meanings not accurate at all :D and doesn't relate said spouted meanings to the question.
(Ok I mistyped the question so I would have been really impressed to get a meaninful answer but still)
irisa :)
I'm afraid I went back and typed garbage (not words at all...) - and got a most thorough answer to - nothing.... :D
Nytebugg
13-03-2010, 09:12
most of the online generated ones give book type meanings. some are a bit better than others. there are a couple I enjoy using from time to time just for fun. I don't really care for the facade one. Maybe because it seems even more LWB-ish than others.
I'm afraid I went back and typed garbage (not words at all...) - and got a most thorough answer to - nothing.... :D
Hahaha coffee over my keyboard again! :D
I go to this site once in a while. The card meaning is generic and may not be accurate for your situation. However, I find the card placement in the spread to be accurate. You will just have to interpret the cards your way and not follow their general one for all meaning.
I've had a few readings on the Lotus Tarot site, this year, that have impressed me. :)
Jaqueline
13-03-2010, 16:31
I used this site & other similar ones when I first started learning - it was helpful for getting to know the cards. I still go there when I'm too lazy to do a reading for myself - I just think it has to be taken as the "arms length" reading that it is. Although, I often wonder if "synchronicity" shouldn't work for a computer as well as dealing cards - just wondering . . .
For the dealing - yes, I'd agree. It's what you do with the cards once drawn....It is just parroting. If that were all there were to reading - you'd just need a deck and a book. Anyone could do it - without knowing anything at all. Just put all the meanings into Orphalese and take it from there !
Mind you personally I'd be happy for these sites to take all the what are his feelings and what's he thinking questions :D
irisa :)
Mind you personally I'd be happy for these sites to take all the what are his feelings and what's he thinking questions :D
irisa :)
:D
along with will he come back to me, is he cheating on me, when will I find my true love...
All electronic readings do at the moment is to give you generic card meanings. You could try writing something more clever that would try and figure out the type of question but it would still be a look up table.
Mind you personally I'd be happy for these sites to take all the what are his feelings and what's he thinking questions :D
irisa :)
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Kimberlee
13-03-2010, 19:38
Actually, when I first started getting back into tarot, I did use facade for my daily draw until my first deck arrived. I found that the same 5 or so cards came up repeatedly. Even if I looked up various meanings from other websites, the fact that the same cards continuously appeared makes me question how they "shuffled" the deck.
~Kimberlee
Sounds like a random number generator that is using the same seed a lot of the time - bad programming in other words - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator
If you don't know what you are doing it might well start the random sequence from the same place a lot of the time.
Sounds like a random number generator that is using the same seed a lot of the time - bad programming in other words - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generator
If you don't know what you are doing it might well start the random sequence from the same place a lot of the time.
just facade, though...right? or do you think this also applies to that one site where people can upload their decks and then the computer draws cards for them? Unfortunately, I dont remember that site's name but when i first started on AT, my reading circle partner used that site instead of pulling from a physically present deck. I admit, I wasn't too thrilled.I cant judge the accuracy of it, though, because she never sent me the reading
Random number generators depend on who programmed them. Some work well. Others don't The one with Orphalese seems to - and you can seed it anyway, to make things change from day to day.
Accuracy in the reading comes from the READER, IMHO. I don't think an automatic site giving automatic words can do it for you; drawing the cards - maybe.
ana luisa
13-03-2010, 21:13
I usually resort to those sites for "card picking" and not necessarily their definitions/interpretations. When the cards are "randomly" selected, I give them my OWN interpretation. It is good in the sense that I get to know other renditions of the same card in different decks. Alas, one cannot have ALL decks , right ? On the subject of sites, I've had good readings with this one:
http://www.ifate.com/tarot_index.html
The Card of the Day works a lot for me as well. :)
Dreamkitty
13-03-2010, 22:23
I asked questions about myself in the present moment and the site was very accurate for that, however when I ased questions about the future it was slightly inaccurate.
So you asked questions to which you already knew the answers. Why ?
And how can you know if what it said about the future is not accurate - the future hasn't happened yet....
Unless you asked if someone would knock at the door in five minutes - and got a yes and they didn't.... ;)
Chronata
14-03-2010, 00:34
I occasionally really like these computer generated readings for myself.
Why? Because I am terribly non objective when it comes to me. I mean, a single card can have 27 different meanings, and while it's easy to pick the right ones for other people, I find it difficult for myself.
So, A computer reading...every once in a while...will throw up a card and a generic meaning...and there's something in that description that I need to hear.
It's why I use oracles for myself ...or why bibliomancy works too (although not as well, because I can skew the answers in one direction by which book I pick!)
Incidently, I don't ever type in questions. I just think them. It still works.
My favorite of the computer tarots is the AT one here. Because i get different views on the cards, and because I know something about every member that created each card, and that knowledge can often add a little extra insight to the reading
Fire Cat
14-03-2010, 00:40
I have said it before and I will say it again: facade has a bank of 100 or so canned readings. It is not a card-by-car randomizer (unless you do a one-card pull...)
Jaqueline
14-03-2010, 00:42
I don't think it's a new concept for people to ask a question that they already know the answer to.
I don't think it's a new concept for people to ask a question that they already know the answer to.
No - but I also don't see the point. Why do it ? I actually was asking; I want to know !
shiresun
14-03-2010, 04:34
OK, I checked it out. I'm not sure how you define 'so acurate', but if you're going by LWB meanings, you're right, it is. There are other applications out there that will give you a little white book definition, maybe even a bit beyond that. What they can't possibly do is introduce the human element, a person's intuition, as to what that card means in a particular situation & how it relates to the question, the surrounding cards & the spread, if one is using one with positional meanings. Let alone the deck & its specific imagery. What they did was simply interpret the traditional meanings of each card, with no interaction as regards the other cards, etc. It's like a dictionary.
Since I'm so new, I can't really speak about how cards relate to each other yet, but one thing that struck me was that I went to a site and did an online reading for something that was on my mind. The response the cards gave didn't quite give me what I'd expected, but that human element that you mention, wouldn't/couldn't that also be the 'interpretation' of the querent as well... meaning what we ourselves get out of it when hearing the response of the spread?
In fact, I'd just used the Gaian Tarot oracle for a question the other day, and one of the cards raised a red flag for me, in a way that may not have had anything to do with my original question, but with my normal reaction to the meaning of a card. I have to go back and re-read that card's response, and apply it now to what I asked, without jumping to conclusions about fears having nothing to do with my question.
I could be way off here on how much the querent is involved with the interpretation of a reading.
Shire
Fire Cat
14-03-2010, 04:43
If you're looking for a spooky-accurate site that throws random cards and good "book" meanings, try http://www.fourthdimension.net/thoth/
shiresun
14-03-2010, 04:45
My favorite of the computer tarots is the AT one here. Because i get different views on the cards, and because I know something about every member that created each card, and that knowledge can often add a little extra insight to the reading
Where is the one here? I haven't come across it yet! Would love to see it.
Where is the one here? I haven't come across it yet! Would love to see it.
Here (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/readings/).
It's the first link, the one that says ''Get a free Tarot reading with our unique reading software, using the Aeclectic collaborative tarot decks created by community members.''
Since I'm so new, I can't really speak about how cards relate to each other yet, but one thing that struck me was that I went to a site and did an online reading for something that was on my mind. The response the cards gave didn't quite give me what I'd expected, but that human element that you mention, wouldn't/couldn't that also be the 'interpretation' of the querent as well... meaning what we ourselves get out of it when hearing the response of the spread?
In fact, I'd just used the Gaian Tarot oracle for a question the other day, and one of the cards raised a red flag for me, in a way that may not have had anything to do with my original question, but with my normal reaction to the meaning of a card. I have to go back and re-read that card's response, and apply it now to what I asked, without jumping to conclusions about fears having nothing to do with my question.
I could be way off here on how much the querent is involved with the interpretation of a reading.
Shire
Well, sure, you could use your own interpretations for computer-generated throws but keep in mind that the majority of people using sites like that don't have a clue what those cards mean.
If you're looking for a spooky-accurate site that throws random cards and good "book" meanings, try http://www.fourthdimension.net/thoth/
That one's pretty cool - it gives enough information about the card & its positional meaning for anyone to use it. But I don't think any program can interpret the myriad meanings of card relationships, incorporate that with not only all the other cards in the spread but the positional meanings, PLUS toss in a bit of intuition. Good thing, huh? Wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
Fire Cat
14-03-2010, 08:43
And half of us would be out of a job.
shiresun
14-03-2010, 11:09
Here (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/readings/).
It's the first link, the one that says ''Get a free Tarot reading with our unique reading software, using the Aeclectic collaborative tarot decks created by community members.''
That is a DUH on me lol. I was spending most of my time over in Books, Learn and Decks, that I hadn't gotten to 'Readings' yet. Thank you!!!