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Jeanette
05-11-2001, 19:23
I read somewhere that rosemary oil will help with dreams (stimulate dreams & help to remember them). I tried it, and it worked. I just put a few drops in a little tin beside the bed. Well, the past few nights I've had very vivid dreams, and most I could figure out. But in one dream, I woke up with the phrase "bride's eyes" on my mind. Does anybody have any idea how this could be interpreted? I couldn't remember anything else about this dream, other than "bride's eyes" and that somehow it meant dark circles under the eyes. I'm not sure if this is the right forum for this post, but here it is anyway! Any help will be appreciated! Jeanette
i just bought rosemary conditioner! i'll be looking for some good dreams.
jade
New River
06-11-2001, 12:31
'bride's eyes', hmmmmmm.....
maybe this means looking at something with a lot of expectation. thinking it will be ideal and perfect.
since these expectations can cause us to lose a lot of sleep when they don't 'measure' up, we could get those dark circles under our eyes.
rosemary is good for the memory too. i used to tuck a sprig behind my ear when studying for exams. even if it doesn't help, mmmmmm, it smells so good!
love, light and hope, New River
i saw a rosemary tree at the store today. it smelled soooooo great. it was trimmed into the shape of a christmas tree and about 1.5 feet tall.
i'm buying it on thursday!
love
jade
ps so what else is it good for?
Hmmm, now maybe your subconcious, your brain, your dreams are trying to warn you to get that tin out of your bedroom .... I donīt know, but Iīll give you some facts on rosemary oil:
Rosmarinus officinalis:
The oil is collarless or yellow-ish, has the sence of kampher/eucalyptis and taste very aromatic and burning.
Stimulates blood circulation, tender muscles, digestion, healing of the skin.
Stimulates the nervesystem
Anticeptical
When inhaled it works on lungs, bronchitis, the flue
Put directly on forhead and neck it works on headaches and migreenes
Rosemary disturbs sleep, gives vivid dreams and leave the user unrestet, always use in the early hours of the day to avoid this. Avoid rosemary in the bedroom because of its stimulating effect on the CNS ( central nerve system = brain)
If you want good quality beuty dreams, use Lavender instead. If you wanna remember your dreams, try to find your REMrythm, and wake up 15 min before you use to or maybe 15 min later.
Using rosemary on long term basis to stimulate dreams is close to taking extacy to see collars ...... so please take care.
Jeanette
07-11-2001, 13:05
I had no idea what I was getting myself into, bec! Thanks for all of the info. I only wanted to remember my dreams, not have bizarre ones! Last night I dreamt of ant holes all over my ceiling. WEIRD. Anyway, before I even read your post, I bought some lavender oil. Maybe I somehow subconsciously intercepted your warning? I plan to use it tonight instead of the rosemary, and I'll report back about the results! Watch out, jade, see what you're in for ;) Jeanette
wow :O
i'm so surprised by this info.
thanks soooo much.
jade
jade:
about that tree youīre talking about - donīt be afraid to buy it - just keep it out of your bedroom or any other room ppl sleep in or stays up until late in.
My suggestion is to put it in the room you drink your morning tea in ..... It does have wonderfull qualities. :)
ha ha ha ha ha
you haven't seen my little tiny house that we live in. there is nowhere to put a plant that doesn't fall in one of those catagories. LOL
oh well, i can wait for spring and plant one outside instead! :D
love and light,
jade
Cunningham's book of magical herbs has this to say:
"...When placed beneath the pillow rosemary ensures a good sleep and drives away nightmares. Laid under the bed it protects the sleeper from all harm..."
hmmmmm :-)
i guess you have to try it for yourself and make a decision!
jade
jade> now that was some great info on the rosemary herb !! So you can still buy your little tree without having to think about where you put it :)
what youīre writing about making your own decision ....... well .... I reccon your talking about the herb, right?
Note that the oil is about 1000 times more concentratet ........ big difference.
But still, since I have no clue about herbs, I think itīs kind of funny that the herb and oil has such oppisite influence on our cns ...
Now thatīs a great lesson to get, just because itīs good or bad in one content it can differ totally in another.....
Maybe I should do some reading on them herbs aswell :D
Thanks jade :)
i don't know anything about it either. a friend told me about that info i posted.......i would certainly check into it deeper too.
and yes, i was talking about making your own decision as in........perhaps hold it in your hand and ask it.....or try sleeping with it and see what happens etc. :-)
love and light,
???
jade
Now I know my book on the issue is no good for you as itīs in danish, however the author is not - so maybe you know the name... Itīs called Aromatherapy by Sumo Lotus.
Iīll try locate something on the net - maybe we could get so lucky to find someone whoīs actually describing both herbs and oils :)
Now I found some sites:
http://www.kevala.co.uk/aromatherapy/rosemary.htm
Now this site is quite poor in info, so Iīve pastet it....... but still itīs quite useful for other herbs aswell
http://world.std.com/~krahe/html1.html
Rosmarinus officinalis (Labiatae)
HISTORY AND USES
Rosemary is native to the Mediterranean region. Rosemary is a well-known and greatly valued herb that is native to southern Europe. It has been used since antiquity to improve and strengthen the memory. Rosemary leaves increase circulation, reduce headaches and have anti-bacterial and fungal properties. Rosemary improves food absorbtion by stimulating digestion, the liver, the intestinal tract, and the gallbladder. It also is used in antiseptic gargles for sore throats, gum problems and canker sores. Rosemary has a long-standing reputation as a tonic, invigorating herb, imparting a zest for life that is to some degree reflected in its distinctive aromatic taste.
MAIN PROPERTIES: Tonic, stimulant, astringent, nervine, anti-inflammatory, carminative
The last one -to me it seems that this one gets around both oil,herb and floweressence:
http://www.thedance.com/herbs/rosemary.htm
I havenīt been able to read it all - but I will, hope this shares some light over rosemary :)
Jade and bec,
Having a little such knowledge in such things here is the run down on Rosemary:
Rosemary:
Rosmarinus officinalis
Origins: First favored by the Egyptians, rosemary was popular with the Greeks and Romans who believed it symbolized love and death. During the plague it was burned in public places and worn around the neck for its antiseptic qualities.
Description: A small scrub, it grows to around three feet high, with grey-green leaves and pale blue-white flowers. The clear oil is steam-distilled from the flowers and leaves, and has a powerful, warm, woody aroma.
Therapeutic effects: A good stimulant, especially for the circulation and memory. Also helps burns, colds, dandruff, diarrhoea, headaches and obesity.
Uses: Inhalation, baths and massage. Inhale from a handkerchief to clear headaches and fatigue. In massage it stimulates the lymphatic system.
Cautionary Note: Use in low concentrations, as excessive doses may bring about epileptic fits or convulsions. Do not use in early pregnancy or if you have high blood pressure.
This is in a nutshell of course......
Hope this helps shed more light on the "tree buying decision" Jade hehehe......
-Love and Light
mystic: thatīs pretty much what I was able to find on the net aswell.
the issue is the difference between the oil and the herb - jeanette using the oil to help her with dreams and to be able to remember them.
I know about oils for therapy, but havenīt any clue about herbs. Jade bringing up that the herb actually has the guite oppisite effect on dreams and sleep than the oil.
From my books and what Iīve read so far - you shouldnīt use the oil to stimulate dreams
according to jades post, the herb is quite good for dreams and sleep.
Still if using oil - I would reccomend lavender in the bedroom.
And for the tree - I wouldnīt hesitate buying it :)
Jeanette
09-11-2001, 20:05
Well, now that I've started such trouble, I have to report that last night I used the lavender oil. I HARDLY SLEPT AT ALL! I was wide awake for a few hours in the middle of the night, and couldn't stop tossing and turning. And, worse still, no dreams to remember, weird or otherwise. So, maybe I just need to keep the rosemary after all, and only use a drop a night, and not have it too close! This whole thread has been very educational. Maybe somebody else would like to give this experiment a try and see what happens. The oils I used were both made by LorAnn Oils, Inc. www.lorannoils.com I'm going back to the rosemary tonight, and see what happens! Jeanette :)
bec and mystic,
wow, you are soooo informative. i am impressed. :-)
well, i'm going to buy the tree since i am very attracted to the smell of it :-) and the taste of it on roasted potatoes! yummy :P
thanks for the great info.
love
jade
Jeanette: ;D now thatīs SOOOOOOO weird *L* Lavender is used (one of many ofcourse) in treatment for insomnia - and now youīre saying you didnīt get any sleep ..... gosh !!
Now about experimenting ..... I have an infant in my bedroom, so Iīll pull out of that one .....
Another suggestion thow - how ībout making a potpourri of rosemary leaves/herbs instead of the oil ?
I really shouldnīt be making further suggestions ītill Iīve heard your "night report" :)
I have thourght about one thing ..... maybe the rosemary takes a few days to get out of your system (?) I can not except the apperently fact that someone gets their sleep spoiled from lavender ....... thatīs totally aginst all rules :D
Now donīt misunderstand me, just thinking out loud, Iīm not questioning your experience in any way.
truthsayer
11-11-2001, 10:48
no matter what the literature herbs/essential oils says about their properties, i think it all goes back to what works for the individual. if rosemary draws you fine. if lavendar or whatever draws you fine. imho, we've become a culture that has ceased to trust our own intuitions and instincts and defer to an external source or higher authority. we're forgetting how to be autonomous. in psychology this is called external and internal locus of control. when we go along w/ the group and give our power away to an outsider this is having an external locus of control. internal locus of control is when we experiment and decide for ourselves what is right for us w/ little or no external influence. i'm just as guilty as anyone of going along w/ the group. instead of playing w/ my tarot cards and learning my own path, i tend to trust books, here and other external sources more than what i could come up w/ on my own. going along w/ a group is more fun. learning alone is lonely so there are pros and cons on both sides.
the most imp thing is to take what we say w/ a lump of salt and decide what works for you. now my herbal remedy story... ;)
i have been sensitive to all kinds of scents most of my life. i couldn't even wear so-called nature oils. then i had an extremely vivid dream that demanded that i start using lavendar essential oil. i might have brushed it off but only a few days later at an arts fest, i met a lady who did aromatherapy and essential oils. i decided to give lavendar oil a try. after using it a while i noticed subtle differences in my life. if i bathed w/ lavendar, i felt much calmer. my sensitivities to chemicals lowered to the point i could wear a couple scents from bath and body works. this may sound weird but it was like my aura felt stronger and i stopped catching every bug that came around. when i stopped i got more sensitive to chems again and caught a cold. so i have started using lavendar again. i can't say that lavendar will work for everyone but ask your dreams to guide you to the right scents to heal you. even if a scent is right for you, deciding on the right amount to use is also important. i went thru a more is better stage but this bothered my husband. i decided that more isn't better--balance is and now i follow my intuition. haven't had anymore complaints from the mister. :D :D
Jeanette
11-11-2001, 14:48
Truthsayer, I think you're right in that we should try and follow our intuitions. But I also think that certain things are generally accepted because they work for a majority of the people, and sometimes because many before us have learned from trial, error and experience. So I guess I'm open to everyone's opinion! I'm just going to wait and see what happens, I've aired out the bedroom completely (it's a chilly, windy day!). I'm going to try the lavender again, because it's always been one of my favorite fragrances. But I'll keep the rosemary around, just in case! Maybe I'm built backwards, who knows? I'll just give this a while before I decide one way or the other! :)
truthsayer,
i totally agree with you.
we allow other people's experiences to decide what ours will be.
i'm all for - being ecclectic - and isn't this just another way of being. allowing your intuition to guide you.
personally, i try to not learn the properties of stuff off by heart, that way, in a situation, i just see what rocks or herbs etc......draw me to them. and i use them.
love and light,
jade
truthsayer
11-11-2001, 19:34
Jeanette (12 Nov, 2001 05:48):
I'll just give this a while before I decide one way or the other! :)
exactly, my point and have a joyous time learning about what makes you tick in the process. i'm spent loads of time in educational institutions so i understand what you said about things being done over often enough you can learn from other ppl's experiences. i'm studying nursing right now. there are many things i wouldn't want to risk just learning to do by intuition. example,"okay, mrs. smith, i've never done an IV before but i'm certain my intuition will guide me in the correct way to do this..." meanwhile, mrs. smith heads for the door at a stunning speed for someone that sick! lesson: whatever the situation, choose the method of learning appropriate. :D :D ;D :) 8-)
Waiting for more reports....
Jeanette
12-11-2001, 18:21
Well, last night I went back to the rosemary oil and slept so peacefully! The windows had been opened all day, and it was breezy and chilly. The bedroom was totally aired out! I only used one or two drops, and didn't have it too close to me. I think I'll stick with the rosemary for sleeping. I use the lavender here by the computer, though, and I like it!
StarShine
12-11-2001, 19:24
Hi Jeanette!
Okay, I think I may have your answer. I ran your problem by a friend of mine. She is not only a Native American Shaman, but also a Druid High Crone. She makes and sells her own oils and herb blends, so she knows her stuff. This is what she told me.
First of all, Rosemary does induce lucid dreaming. However, when you do this, you are not sleeping as deeply as maybe you should. You should only use Rosemary to induce lucid dreaming once or twice a week with at least three days in between. To get the most out of it, less is better. The reason you woke up the last time with the phrase "Bride's Eyes" is because your body/subconscious was trying to tell you that you needed your rest. Bride's Eyes refers to her eyes the morning after the wedding night. She has been up all night, no sleep, and therefore has the dark circles. You must have heard this expression some where and stored it. Your mind used it to give you the message. If you lucid dream too often, eventually your dreams will become muddled and without meaning because even your subconscious is tired. I think that the reason you were up all night with the lavendar is because you had hit a point where you were basically too tired to sleep.
I hope this helps. Of course, she does not claim to be the end all be all authority, but to be honest, it makes sense to me. She also agreed with the person who said that an oil is much more concentrated that the dried or fresh herb.
Good Luck!
Thanks for sharing starshine :)
I was beginning to feel rather outnumbered here not knowing how to get the message through, that rosemary oil is not something to be used lightly, in the bedroom anyway - it does have some great qualities in other ways.
"She is not only a Native American Shaman, but also a Druid High Crone. She makes and sells her own oils and herb blends, so she knows her stuff. "
Now thatīs a very wise woman :) All my respects for her oppinions, please give her a big thanks for the inlightment :)
Jeanette
13-11-2001, 14:55
StarShine, I agree, the rosemary is pretty potent stuff. I think I'll only use a TINY drop every once in a while now that I know what I know. It has such a great fragrance ~ I guess I overused it the first couple times.
I want to thank everyone who researched this and shared their knowledge with me, it's so great to have such support! :)
Truthsayer, I find your views to be like your name! The only thing I want to add to this conversation is that the quality of oil does matter. Also, in support of bec, I remember Cunningham included Rosemary in his cautionary list because of the blood pressure and epilepsy stuff. This, despite all the wonderful things he wrote about it. So, it may be best to not experiment too freely with some things. I found out the hard way that ylang-ylang can cause headaches. That said, I'm a great believer in the experiential approach and trusting your own intuition, which sometimes manifests as finding good guidance from others.
Ceti
here's some info i found on aromatherapy oil safety ;
Do not get essential oils in your eyes.
Keep essential oils away from children.
Essential oils should be diluted (using either a carrier oil or water) before using topically (with
exception for lavender and tea tree).
Keep essential oils away from heat, light, dampness and electromagnetic
frequencies (near TV or microwave).
Do a "patch test" if you are sensitive.
Avoid strong sunlight or tanning beds after applying essential
oils.
Do not apply immediately afer perspiring, i.e. sauna
Take the necessary precautions during pregnancy, terminal
illness and with children as shown.
most of that is of course common sense :p
now with tea tree i must warn you.. it really really stings...i would suggest always diluting it ;)
besides lavender, you could use chamomile for sleeping problems
lavender also has antiseptic, antibiotic and anti-inflammatory properties
:)