Is this possible to do?

[Diana]

I really would love to have a black and white Marseilles Majors only deck. It doesn't exist.

I know nothing about Paintshops, or other computer programmes like that. I am illiterate when it comes to computers.

Is it possible to scan the cards (just the Majors),from my Marseilles deck, and then somehow remove all the colour? I don't want any shadings or anything. Just as stark as possible.

Please can someone tell me if this is possible to do, and if so, how?

Then I could print them out and plastify them or something.

[baba-prague]

Dear Diana,

Yes, it's possible. It would be simple just to scan your cards then print them out as black and white (ie with tones of grey). That would be really easy - but you need to find someone with a printer that will print on card. The actual printing and cutting may be the most fiddly part.

If you want all the grey tones taken out, that would be a longer job of course, but just fiddly, not really difficult. If you find someone like an art student with good skills in something like Photoshop, they should be able to manage it. You might even try a copy-shop, not sure if they could do it, but worth asking.

Best of luck!

[Ravenswing]

Diana--

If you send me the scans of the majors, I'll send them back to you in black and white.

you can e-mail them to me at srpolsz@dvol.com....

fly well
raven

[Diana]

Thank you both! You have warmed the cockles of my heart.

I will soon be able to have a Majors only black and white Marseilles deck. I can now die happy.

It is not so much that I want to use it for my readings - but I would like to use it for study purposes. I want to see what I can understand about these Arcana if they are devoid of colour. What do they add? What do they subtract?

People (including me) always go on about the importance of the colours in the Marseilles decks. But how can we be so sure if we don't try and study the pictures without them?

Ravenswing: I will take up your very very kind offer soon. :)

[baba-prague]

Good! It's nice to see a tarot question solved so easily.

If you have any problems let me know. I'm going to be away for a week or so, but of course I could scan my own Marseille deck when I get back (which I didn't think of - brain a bit slow today). Anyway, that's just as a back-up, I doubt you'll have problems.

Let us know what working with the black and white deck is like please.

[Major Tom]

I'd try simply reducing colour scans to 2 colours.

Do let me know if you have trouble getting this done Diana - I could help too. :) But, I am sure Ravenswing will come through.

[BoomVoom]

reducing colore scans to only 2 collores could make dark blues and reds go black.

you'r better of puttong them into photoshop and coppying the selected "black" collore range and pasting it on a wite background.

[Tor]

Diana:

Is this how you want it?

(see attachement)

:)

[Tor]

Not sure if it was the right deck, but it is a marseille.

If you want to, I can scan the majors for you and send them by mail :)

*hugs*

[Diana]

Oh Balder, you are so sweet!

That's the Dodal deck.

Would you mind doing the same thing with the Moon, so I can see what it looks like black and white? Then I'll know whether that's sufficient for me or not.

[Tor]

Anything for you dear! :)

(see attachement)

:)

[Diana]

Well Balder, this looks really cool. Only it's not the deck I want scanned! How did you do that?

What I really would like is to have no shading at all (all the grey out) so that I have just the backgrounds.

But I don't have time now to look after this matter. It'll have to wait till the end of summer. I am as busy as a bee for the next three weeks before I go on my summer holiday. (If things go well, I will even be meeting some American Aeclecticians. :) ).

Balder, thank you so much for doing what you did!!!!

((((((Balder)))))))

[Tor]

Diana:

Well, I don't understand what you want, but I understood it was the wrong deck, so I turn off the scanner then :)

Hope you'll have a nice and sunny summer!

:)

[Diana]

Balder, I expressed myself badly. I mean "outlines", not "backgrounds".

[HudsonGray]

If scanning & playing around with it won't drop out all the shading, why not scan & enlarge the image, then put it up on the glass of a window, put another sheet of paper over it & trace what you need, then scan those in & shrink down to the size you want (or take it to a photocopy place & shrink them down). Doing the illustrations by hand will make it more of a deck you've got a part of yourself in.

[null]

Hi! This is my first post here, so I hope I'm doing it right. :D

Do you mean like this? (I know it's not the right deck, but...)

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/263041/moon.gif

If so, it was very easy to do using the scan Balder made, but the lines don't look so solid. Some tweaking should fix it.

[Diana]

Null! Thanks for responding to me on your very first post! I am honoured. :)

Wow! That looks really beautiful.

I'm going on holiday for three weeks tomorrow. Don't have time for this kind of thing now, but I will contact you on my return......

Have you gone to the New Members section and introduced yourself?

WELCOME TO AECLECTIC!

(Edited to add: Hope to see you in the Historical and Iconographical section!)

[Cerulean]

1. Tarot Arista has Marseilles drawings on light beige backgrounds--if you copy them in a 'lighter' setting, you might have the black and white outlines for study:

http://www.wicce.com/aristapix.html

2. Images with Marseilles, but has gray:

http://www.wischik.com/lu/tarot/index.html


3. I believe there are line drawings of Marseilles in different books with outlines only and no shading. The one title that comes to mind right now is "Tarot and Magic" by Gareth Knight, also published as "The Treasure House of Images." If you pick up a used copy you'll also find these are small illustrations--but I don't know if they are all one size. The first volume only has majors.
I believe he uses a Camoin or Convers reproduction, which might be the deck that Diana wants.
The other title with black and white outlines of a Marseilles in a tiny version is the Castle of Crossed Destinies with the Tavern of Crossed Destinies as well--these have cards on the side of the text. It also looks like a Convers or Camoin
If people come up with more titles, I'm certain Diana would appreciate it..it's easier to cut out the illustrations of an older book...or photocopy and cut out, if that works.
Mari H.

[null]

Thank you for the kind welcome, Diana! :) I only wish I could be more helpful with this, but sadly, I don't have a scanner or anything like that.

Here is another card I tried:

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-7/263041/marmage.gif

...done from the image located here: (hope no one minds!) http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/marseilles/index.html

If anyone else wants to try, this only takes a few seconds to do. I just changed the image to greyscale, then adjusted the color "levels" which takes away much of the shading that's left. (I am using an image editing program called "The GIMP", but more popular programs like Paintshop or Photoshop should be able to do the same things.) For this image, I also blurred it a bit, then sharpened it, so the lines wouldn't look as harsh and jagged as they did in the first image I changed. Some lines still aren't very solid though, but I'll bet someone who knows more about image editing than I do could fix this. :) Or the lines could just be retouched by hand, but that would take a bit of effort.

Oh, and about the Historical and Iconographical section --- that place is GREAT!! I've been lurking over there for a bit -- so much wonderful info! :D

[Major Tom]

Null - That's pretty close. :)

I might have to give this a try.

Wish I had a Marseilles deck.