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Minderwiz
23-11-2010, 01:07
For this round of readings I'm using two threads. The first is for the questions and this one is for the readings and the feedback. The purpose of the division is to ensure (hopefully!) that I work through the questions in order and don't inadvertently miss someone out.

Please do not post questions in this thread - they won't get answered because I won't be looking for them and they'll get 'lost'. If you have any supplementary questions directly related to your main reading it's OK to ask here but any fresh questions please post in the Questions thread.

I'll copy the questions to this thread as I get round to the reading, so it will be clear what the question was.

Right, so let's kick off with the first reading :)

Minderwiz
23-11-2010, 02:07
Hello Minderwiz nice to hear from you again. Hope you had a great time!!!

I would like a horary reading please!

Im about to go to school, for cosmetology. I would like to know if this is a good choice for me, and what would be the results in the short and long run. If not which career would be better for me.

Thanks in advance.

Firstly it took me three attempts (the maximum that I will allow) to get a radical chart. The first two both had 0 degrees of a sign rising. That would suggest that it might be too early to come up with a valid answer. However having got a radical chart on the third attempt, I will go ahead.

The chart has Taurus rising, so your significator is Venus - very appropriate for this question. It was cast during the hour of Mars (not really a sympathetic planet).

The question relates to both study and career. Study and higher education is a ninth House matter and career is a tenth House matter. Both houses fall in Capricorn, ruled by Saturn (incidentally the ruler of the skin). Saturn's rulership is both relevant to the proposed area of study and career and the rulership of both shows that study and career are inextricably linked.

Next I will look at the condition of the two main significators and of the Moon, the co-significator in Horary questions. Venus is in Libra, so is high in essential dignity. Accidentally, Venus is not in good shape, being oriental and slow in motion, having just turned direct and in the sixth. That does not do enough to remove Venus' positive dignity by any means - so we have a fairly strong Venus. The sixth placement perhaps has another meaning - the sixth is concerned with ill-health and that could well be said to be a relevant placement for the question.

Saturn is also in Libra where it is exalted and has triplicity rulersipso it too has plenty of essential dignity. Accidentally it is in the sixth, but as above, that might well be a relevant house for this question.

Venus is actually moving away from Saturn, which might suggest that you are moving away from that career/study course. But there is a mutual reception between Venus and Saturn through rulership/exaltation and that may well be enough to effect a positive answer to the question.

The Moon as your co-significator, is in Gemini. The Moon is slow and weak in essential dignity but it is applying to a trine with Saturn, the course and the career. Given the existing mutual reception and the application of the Moon to Saturn, I'd say that your choice of course and career is a good one for you.

The overall chart seems to support that view, given the nature of the significators and their placements. So go for it!!

BTW Saturn is the strongest planet in this chart in terms of essential dignity and it's also direct, fast and oriental (good for Saturn) so this career appears not only right for you but one that offers good success.

jfiallo0982
23-11-2010, 04:40
Wow Im impress!! I am actually thinking about going from cosmetology to massage therapy. Im still not sure about this change, but it might happen because of some situation going on.


I kind of didn't understand the part about ill health, is there the possibility that it could be me??
Thanks again minderwiz, take care!!!!☺

Minderwiz
23-11-2010, 05:38
I kind of didn't understand the part about ill health, is there the possibility that it could be me??
Thanks again minderwiz, take care!!!!☺

In the context of the question, I'd say it's other people's, that is you and your career are dealing with ill health through therapeutic and health care side of cosmetology. Saturn rules the skin, so I'd say that a specialism in skin care and related issues, possibly for people with real skin problems could be an ultimate development.

Massage is also skin related (though obviously more concerned with the muscles underneath) and involves direct contact with the skin and treatment of it through massage oils. So they are not unrelated and indeed both might be complementary parts of your practice.

Given the prominence of the sixth though I think you should be looking mainly for a career which involves therapy rather than simply the beauty industry.

jfiallo0982
23-11-2010, 07:14
In the context of the question, I'd say it's other people's, that is you and your career are dealing with ill health through therapeutic and health care side of cosmetology. Saturn rules the skin, so I'd say that a specialism in skin care and related issues, possibly for people with real skin problems could be an ultimate development.

Massage is also skin related (though obviously more concerned with the muscles underneath) and involves direct contact with the skin and treatment of it through massage oils. So they are not unrelated and indeed both might be complementary parts of your practice.

Given the prominence of the sixth though I think you should be looking mainly for a career which involves therapy rather than simply the beauty industry.

Thank you, Im already on it.

Minderwiz
24-11-2010, 04:45
Hello!

I'd like to make a transition to shift my work from business operations in a corporate setting to business in a self-employed/holistic/humanitarian management/therapy.

Could I get some insight into if this is a good time to shift into something and if it would be worth it/more financially and personally fulfilling for me?

EDIT:

To provide more specifics/clarity, I have two businesses, but as I transition into them, I'm hoping to exchange with a Reiki teacher to get my Masters (I have level 2) and I'd like to focus on doing healing and shamanic therapy while I work towards my holistic practice, while earning enough to let me leave my current employment. So, as above, it is that path that I am seeking to pursue a much greater personal and financial fulfillment with.

This is clearly a career question which falls into the tenth House, though there may be knock-on's for other Houses. The chart is cast at the hour of the Sun - the Day ruler of the Fire triplicity. Pisces rises, which is ruled by Jupiter, the ruler of the Fire triplicity by Night. So we have agreement between Hour ruler and the ruler of the Ascendant. There's one important consideration - Saturn is in the seventh. That is often seen as indicating that the judgement of the Astrologer might be suspect (The Astrologer is given the seventh, though this is rarely important in the detail of a reading). In this case Saturn is full of essential dignity and has a lot of accidental dignity as well, so I'm going to ignore this consideration and proceed with the reading.

I need to choose a significator for you. In the vast majority of cases this is the ruler of the First. However if I give that to you I have a problem with the tenth, which is also ruled by Jupiter, through Sagittarius. There's no other planet in the tenth and no planet has more dignity than Jupiter. However in Pisces, Venus is exalted and at the degree of the Ascendant, has more dignity than Jupiter. So I will use Venus to signify you and Jupiter to signify the career path.

Venus (You) is in dignity in Libra and placed in the seventh (though not in Virgo the sign on the cusp). Venus is slow, having just turned direct and oriental, which are accidental debilities. Nevertheless it is quite strong in this chart. Your significator being strong shows that you do have control over decisions - the issue is whether you take the correct decision (for you).

Jupiter signifies your career - or rather your choice of new career, in this question. Jupiter is placed in Pisces - it's own sign and is conjunct the Ascendant. The new career has come to you - so you have real power over it. Jupiter also rules the ninth house of God - dreams, spirit, visions and professionals.

The remaining issue is to consider the income that will be generated. Taurus lies on the second cusp, In a way this signifies that your income is under your own control, as I've used Venus to signify you. If I were to look at income specifically, I'd use the Moon, which is exalted in Taurus in order to have a separate significator. The Moon in this chart is peregrine and so essentially weak. It is placed conjunct the Descendant and so opposes the new career, but is also afflicted by Mars, through opposition. This seems to suggest that generation of income could be a real problem.

So yes the career is just what you want but the earnings issue does not look at all good. If you take the career move now you are taking a big financial risk - whether you take that risk is your choice as you control the situation

TractJM
24-11-2010, 04:51
This is clearly a career question which falls into the tenth House, though there may be knock-on's for other Houses. The chart is cast at the hour of the Sun - the Day ruler of the Fire triplicity. Pisces rises, which is ruled by Jupiter, the ruler of the Fire triplicity by Night. So we have agreement between Hour ruler and the ruler of the Ascendant. There's one important consideration - Saturn is in the seventh. That is often seen as indicating that the judgement of the Astrologer might be suspect (The Astrologer is given the seventh, though this is rarely important in the detail of a reading). In this case Saturn is full of essential dignity and has a lot of accidental dignity as well, so I'm going to ignore this consideration and proceed with the reading.

I need to choose a significator for you. In the vast majority of cases this is the ruler of the First. However if I give that to you I have a problem with the tenth, which is also ruled by Jupiter, through Sagittarius. There's no other planet in the tenth and no planet has more dignity than Jupiter. However in Pisces, Venus is exalted and at the degree of the Ascendant, has more dignity than Jupiter. So I will use Venus to signify you and Jupiter to signify the career path.

Venus (You) is in dignity in Libra and placed in the seventh (though not in Virgo the sign on the cusp). Venus is slow, having just turned direct and oriental, which are accidental debilities. Nevertheless it is quite strong in this chart. Your significator being strong shows that you do have control over decisions - the issue is whether you take the correct decision (for you).

Jupiter signifies your career - or rather your choice of new career, in this question. Jupiter is placed in Pisces - it's own sign and is conjunct the Ascendant. The new career has come to you - so you have real power over it. Jupiter also rules the ninth house of God - dreams, spirit, visions and professionals.

The remaining issue is to consider the income that will be generated. Taurus lies on the second cusp, In a way this signifies that your income is under your own control, as I've used Venus to signify you. If I were to look at income specifically, I'd use the Moon, which is exalted in Taurus in order to have a separate significator. The Moon in this chart is peregrine and so essentially weak. It is placed conjunct the Descendant and so opposes the new career, but is also afflicted by Mars, through opposition. This seems to suggest that generation of income could be a real problem.

So yes the career is just what you want but the earnings issue does not look at all good. If you take the career move now you are taking a big financial risk - whether you take that risk is your choice as you control the situation

Thank you! This makes complete sense. I have been taking the proactive approach to achieving it but with the goal that I will remain in my current position and work until either something happens OR I do produce the income. Clearly this is something that is good for me BUT perhaps I need to supplement it with other things that are more secure in income generation. As it stands now, I'd be taking a risk as there's no viable income in two of my projects for the time being, and my other work requires me to establish a name and develop a clientelle base. Perhaps I could use my power to drive it in the direction I desire; combining with other forces, factors and decisions to achieve my dream with the risks and appropriate rewards weighed and supplemented.

Thanks!

Minderwiz
24-11-2010, 06:31
Your question related to 'Now' and the financial issues therefore relate to the current situation - which fits with your own views. Things can change in the future so your strategy makes very good sense.

I wish you the best of luck when the time comes (and it will come) to take that step to your own 'business'

Minderwiz
25-11-2010, 00:11
I'd love one on love life.

I would like to see what the stars have to say about any significant romance opportunities over the next 6 months?

Thank You! :heart:

The chart cast has Aries rising with Libra on the descendant - a Mars/Venus axis seems appropriate for this question. The chart is cast during the hour of Jupiter and both Mars and Jupiter are part of the fire triplicity, so this chart seems radical.

You are signified by Mars in this chart, the possible 'other' is signified by Venus. Mars is in Sagittarius where it is peregrine and in the eighth house. Mars therefore is not in good condition and you are both essentially weak - you have little power to influence events. Indeed peregrine signifies someone or something that is adrift or wandering without purpose, or homeless (in terms of the question). The eighth House is in an inconjunct relationship with the seventh - it can't be seen. So you are not only week but 'invisible' to that romantic 'other'. This does not look good.

Venus is in the reverse situation. Placed in Libra and on the Descendant she has both power and position. The real issue therefore is, is there anyway that Venus can get to see Mars - that you and the romantic 'other' are brought together?

Venus is in late Libra, and moving slowly after turning direct. Mars is at 19 degrees Sagittarius. Normally this would suggest that the sextile aspect between them has passed and Venus is now moving away - a failure to bring you two together. However Mars is currently the faster planet, so there might be a chance that Mars will apply to Venus by sextile. The answer is that it will indeed apply but before the aspect can be perfected Venus will change sign and the force of that sextile will be lost.

However may not lost, Mercury has recently conjoined with Mars, and is now moving ahead at 22 Sagittarius. Consulting the ephemeris Mercury almost but not quite catches Venus before she changes sign. It's only by less than half a degree but technically the aspect is not perfected. That close I'm loathe to say that nothing will definitely come of it - you might just get lucky right at the end of the period, or see or meet someone who will eventually take on that role. If this does work it's likely to be through the auspices of a mutual friend, or someone whose actions brings you two together.

Sorry that there isn't a definite Yes or No, but an enticing possiblility :)

Edited to add chart

Minderwiz
25-11-2010, 23:15
I would like one too...:)

Can you tell me if you see a new job on the horizon, maybe next six months ?

Thanks, and no rush !!!!

As this question relates to career and jobs, the relevant Houses are the First, which is for you and the Tenth, which is for the job. As Aquarius is rising, Saturn is your significator. The usual consideration to be careful with Saturn in the seventh House does not apply here, as Saturn in a significator in the Horary. Saturn is in exaltation in Libra, and is essentially powerful, as it also the Day ruler for the Air Triplicity. You therefore are in a strong position - you have highly marketable skills, and with Saturn in the Seventh, you would normally be considered very 'visible' to any prospective employer. In this case the Seventh is a very large House, the Descendant actually falling in mid Leo, so you are not as noticable as the House placement would suggest, though the position could be much worse.

The possible employer, is signified by the ruler of the tenth, Jupiter. Jupiter is in Pisces, and so is in dignity. The employer is in a strong position but they are not as strong as you and Jupiter is placed in the first - your house. If Jupiter were in Aquarius rather than early Pisces, I'd say there's a good chance that they will come beating on your door and offering you that job. However, like Saturn, Jupiter is in a different sign than that on it's house cusp. So, not as weak as we would like to see but still a promising situation for you.

There is no prospective aspect between Jupiter and Saturn, However there is a connection through antiscion, which is a positive relationship. Furthermore the Moon might just carry out a translation of light - it has aspected Saturn by square and will go on to it's next aspect, a trine to Jupiter. It's the square there that gives some concern. A square aspect in Astrology rarely produces the result that is required or if it does, then the result does not give the expected payoff.

My feeling is that the answer to the question is yes! you ought to get a new job within the time period. This might not be quite straightforward, and you might need the help of a third party to get your new job. The antiscion relationship might well be enough to render the third party's help unnecessary and also mean that there's no regrets after you get it!

summerbutterfly
26-11-2010, 15:06
As this question relates to career and jobs, the relevant Houses are the First, which is for you and the Tenth, which is for the job. As Aquarius is rising, Saturn is your significator. The usual consideration to be careful with Saturn in the seventh House does not apply here, as Saturn in a significator in the Horary. Saturn is in exaltation in Libra, and is essentially powerful, as it also the Day ruler for the Air Triplicity. You therefore are in a strong position - you have highly marketable skills, and with Saturn in the Seventh, you would normally be considered very 'visible' to any prospective employer. In this case the Seventh is a very large House, the Descendant actually falling in mid Leo, so you are not as noticable as the House placement would suggest, though the position could be much worse.

The possible employer, is signified by the ruler of the tenth, Jupiter. Jupiter is in Pisces, and so is in dignity. The employer is in a strong position but they are not as strong as you and Jupiter is placed in the first - your house. If Jupiter were in Aquarius rather than early Pisces, I'd say there's a good chance that they will come beating on your door and offering you that job. However, like Saturn, Jupiter is in a different sign than that on it's house cusp. So, not as weak as we would like to see but still a promising situation for you.

There is no prospective aspect between Jupiter and Saturn, However there is a connection through antiscion, which is a positive relationship. Furthermore the Moon might just carry out a translation of light - it has aspected Saturn by square and will go on to it's next aspect, a trine to Jupiter. It's the square there that gives some concern. A square aspect in Astrology rarely produces the result that is required or if it does, then the result does not give the expected payoff.

My feeling is that the answer to the question is yes! you ought to get a new job within the time period. This might not be quite straightforward, and you might need the help of a third party to get your new job. The antiscion relationship might well be enough to render the third party's help unnecessary and also mean that there's no regrets after you get it!


Thank you for the good news !!!!. I am hoping something new and special comes up in the next few months so I can feel a little bit more energized about my career cause right now it's kind of blah. Also hopefully all the time and money I have invested in my additional degrees pays off.....

Thank you !!!!!

Minderwiz
26-11-2010, 22:56
I would love to have one too! =)

Just read through some of the other readings, and you said that the issue that's the most important to you will be the strongest... so here goes...

I'd like to know... if he will stop ignoring me within the next few months so that we can be friends again? If not, is it because he still has feelings for me that he cannot face?

This chart is cast during the Hour of Venus, which is appropriate for this question, though we have Aquarius rising, meaning that Saturn is your significator. Saturn and Venus do have something in common, both rule Air signs and for this daytime chart, Saturn is the Triplicity ruler.

Saturn is strong in essential dignity and sextiles Sun and Moon. It is placed in the seventh House - the house of the 'significant other' but not in the sign on the Descendant. Any control or power here is very weak to non-existent. However, as Libra falls in the seventh House, your primary focus here is the possibility of partnership, though your own self and self interest is quite dominant (Saturn is in it's own exaltation, triplicity and face)

He is signified by the Sun, placed in Sagittarius and in the ninth conjunct the cusp. The Sun is not in any dignity of Saturn, so there's no primary focus on you. The ninth House placement suggests a focus on Higher Education, or spirituality, dreams, etc.

You seem more interested in the possibility than him. The Moon acts as a co-significator in Horaries, and the Moon is in Leo (his sign) and applying to a trine to the Sun. If we take the Moon as your co-significator it would suggest that you two will meet again. The Sun is also beginning to apply to a sextile with Saturn - again suggesting that you two will come together again within the time period.

So, will he stop ignoring you? Yes, he will, you two are destined to come together again.

Will this mean romance or friendship? - I doubt romance (within the time period) but sextiles and trines are easy aspects, so this suggests a positive answer to your question and therefore that you will be friends again.

Minderwiz
28-11-2010, 00:53
my question is about a friend i fight with before, we arenot friends for a year now...what should i do to be friends again? i like him romantically but i would rather be his friend than not be in his life never.

The chart was cast during the hour of the Sun, and has Taurus rising - ruled by Venus. There's no similarity between these two planets, which gives some cause for concern about the validity of the chart. However I will proceed, as there are no other considerations.

You would be signified by Venus, placed in Libra and therefore high in essential dignity. However, Venus is in the last degree of the sign and will shortly move into Scorpio, so Venus is about to lose her strength. Venus is also still slow in motion and placed in the sixth House, both conditions weakening her still further.

Your friend is signified by the eleventh House ruled by Saturn. Saturn is currently also in Libra, where he is in exaltation but placed with Venus in the sixth. The sixth is the house of bad fortune or sorrow and I get the strong impression of sorrow on your part in the question, so it may well be that your friend is also sorrowful about the split.

A return to the friendship would be shown by an application of Venus to Saturn (given that Venus is the faster at the moment) but Venus is moving away from Saturn. So that does not offer much.

The intervention of a third party might bring it about, which would be shown by a faster (than Venus) planet aspecting firstly Saturn and then moving on to aspect Venus without aspecting another one in the meantime. At the moment, Moon, Mercury, Sun and Mars would qualify for this role, but none of them would make these two aspects consecutively. So we have little hope of a someone else bringing you together.

A third way is suggested by the chart. Venus and Saturn have a mutual reception through ruler/exaltation. It's quite possible that this link will bring you both together again - a mutual recognition of the need to do so. Time is your main issue - That mutual reception will soon be lost. If you do nothing, then there is no mechanism to bring about the reconciliation.

You ask what should you do, the answer is to make contact - the position of both significators in the sixth suggests mutual regret and sorrow at the split, so one of you needs to act to remedy the situation, whilst you still can.

I wish you well in that quest

rainy_dreamer
28-11-2010, 10:31
This chart is cast during the Hour of Venus, which is appropriate for this question, though we have Aquarius rising, meaning that Saturn is your significator. Saturn and Venus do have something in common, both rule Air signs and for this daytime chart, Saturn is the Triplicity ruler.

Saturn is strong in essential dignity and sextiles Sun and Moon. It is placed in the seventh House - the house of the 'significant other' but not in the sign on the Descendant. Any control or power here is very weak to non-existent. However, as Libra falls in the seventh House, your primary focus here is the possibility of partnership, though your own self and self interest is quite dominant (Saturn is in it's own exaltation, triplicity and face)

He is signified by the Sun, placed in Sagittarius and in the ninth conjunct the cusp. The Sun is not in any dignity of Saturn, so there's no primary focus on you. The ninth House placement suggests a focus on Higher Education, or spirituality, dreams, etc.

You seem more interested in the possibility than him. The Moon acts as a co-significator in Horaries, and the Moon is in Leo (his sign) and applying to a trine to the Sun. If we take the Moon as your co-significator it would suggest that you two will meet again. The Sun is also beginning to apply to a sextile with Saturn - again suggesting that you two will come together again within the time period.

So, will he stop ignoring you? Yes, he will, you two are destined to come together again.

Will this mean romance or friendship? - I doubt romance (within the time period) but sextiles and trines are easy aspects, so this suggests a positive answer to your question and therefore that you will be friends again.


Yay!! =) You brought me hope! I'm not ready for a relationship, so I really just want my friend back. It's painful that he's ignoring me, so I'm really excited to hear that we're going to come together again!!! You just made my day. I know that we probably won't be as close as before, but at least he won't ignore me anymore (which is really exciting!)

I'm curious as to why you state "within the time period." Does that mean that there is still a possibility of this a little later?

Thank you so much for the reading Minderwiz! I've never had a horary reading done before. I hear that it's highly accurate... so I'll let you know if we do become friends again. =)

Minderwiz
29-11-2010, 00:22
Is "D" the best place for me now as far as my career and ability to make money?

This is great. Thanks for the reading.

The chat is cast during the hour of the Moon and has Taurus rising, where the Moon is exalted. I therefore take the chart to be radical and worthy of judgement. You are signified by Venus, ruler of Taurua. Venus is placed in the last degree of Libra where it still has essential dignity but it is slow and placed in the sixth House, which is traditionally associated with sorrow, but also with servants (and therefore employees). So you might be primarily unhappy or primarily an employee (or indeed both) as far as the chart is concerned - which might be what prompted the question.

The Job (employer) is signified by the tenth House - Capricorn, ruled by Saturn. Saturn in turn is placed in the sixth in Libra where it is exalted. The job might well be a good one but it might not make you happy. Saturn in Capricorn is a good symbol for restriction and control - so the job might be seen as restricting your progress (or the employer might have that role).

Your earnings are signified by the second House - Gemini, ruled by Mercury. Mercury is in terrible shape being in its Detriment and Peregrine. It is also placed in the eighth House. So at the moment I would think that your earnings are not good - a further prompt for the question.

That brings me to the real question here - should you look for another job?

One argument for that might be Venus' position on the cusp of Scorpio - a sign that you might be about to leave. But Venus is slow, so a departure from the job is not so imminent, moreover the move into Scorpio would still leave Venus in the sixth but with much less essential dignity - indeed Scorpio is Venus' Detriment. So my feeling is that if you leave now (or in the very near future) you will be worse off, at least in terms of an outlet for your abilities.

The Moon, which is the co-significator in a Horary is on the cusp of the sixth and Peregrine. there's nothing on offer from her and for a successful outcome the Moon really needs to be strong.

The reading is for the immediate future - the here and now - and the answer is very probably that you would be best staying put. Things will change but change now is frying pan to fire.

Hope this helps.

scorpiogirl
29-11-2010, 00:52
The chart was cast during the hour of the Sun, and has Taurus rising - ruled by Venus. There's no similarity between these two planets, which gives some cause for concern about the validity of the chart. However I will proceed, as there are no other considerations.

You would be signified by Venus, placed in Libra and therefore high in essential dignity. However, Venus is in the last degree of the sign and will shortly move into Scorpio, so Venus is about to lose her strength. Venus is also still slow in motion and placed in the sixth House, both conditions weakening her still further.

Your friend is signified by the eleventh House ruled by Saturn. Saturn is currently also in Libra, where he is in exaltation but placed with Venus in the sixth. The sixth is the house of bad fortune or sorrow and I get the strong impression of sorrow on your part in the question, so it may well be that your friend is also sorrowful about the split.

A return to the friendship would be shown by an application of Venus to Saturn (given that Venus is the faster at the moment) but Venus is moving away from Saturn. So that does not offer much.

The intervention of a third party might bring it about, which would be shown by a faster (than Venus) planet aspecting firstly Saturn and then moving on to aspect Venus without aspecting another one in the meantime. At the moment, Moon, Mercury, Sun and Mars would qualify for this role, but none of them would make these two aspects consecutively. So we have little hope of a someone else bringing you together.

A third way is suggested by the chart. Venus and Saturn have a mutual reception through ruler/exaltation. It's quite possible that this link will bring you both together again - a mutual recognition of the need to do so. Time is your main issue - That mutual reception will soon be lost. If you do nothing, then there is no mechanism to bring about the reconciliation.

You ask what should you do, the answer is to make contact - the position of both significators in the sixth suggests mutual regret and sorrow at the split, so one of you needs to act to remedy the situation, whilst you still can.

I wish you well in that quest
thanks you are kind for this request of mine. i want to know why me venus is moving away from saturn? i am regretful and very hurt of splitting up as friends...words cannot describe how i feel when i think of this situation. i blame myself mainly but i can see why he should be sorrowful he said some things that hurt me and he knew that it hurt. how little time do i have to reconcile? i always feel like i should be the one to fix things and i know i can.

Minderwiz
29-11-2010, 01:55
thanks you are kind for this request of mine. i want to know why me venus is moving away from saturn? i am regretful and very hurt of splitting up as friends...words cannot describe how i feel when i think of this situation. i blame myself mainly but i can see why he should be sorrowful he said some things that hurt me and he knew that it hurt. how little time do i have to reconcile? i always feel like i should be the one to fix things and i know i can.

Venus is faster planet than Saturn and is ahead of it in the Zodiac, so it is moving away, that is simple physical reality but it symbolises the situation here, currently you are moving away from him and the relationship - the Mutual Reception shows that you still have strong bonds and your question and response quoted shows that you do not want this 'split' to continue. The only way to stop it is for you to take action. It is not too late to take the step that you want to but you cannot leave it for very long. At the time the chart was cast Venus was less than a degree from leaving Libra nd breaking the mutual reception.

Fixing time in Horary questions is always a little tricky - one could take timing literally and say that you need to contact him in the next day, before Venus actually does leave Libra, which will take place very early on 1st December. So you have a day left.

The Time could be more symbolic - Libra is a Cardinal Sign, which is usually associated with short time periods, as are cadent houses - so you don't have much time at all - I'd say symbolically we're looking at a day here. So both symbolic and real time say make contact quickly.

moonspirit
29-11-2010, 21:52
The chart cast has Aries rising with Libra on the descendant - a Mars/Venus axis seems appropriate for this question. The chart is cast during the hour of Jupiter and both Mars and Jupiter are part of the fire triplicity, so this chart seems radical.

You are signified by Mars in this chart, the possible 'other' is signified by Venus. Mars is in Sagittarius where it is peregrine and in the eighth house. Mars therefore is not in good condition and you are both essentially weak - you have little power to influence events. Indeed peregrine signifies someone or something that is adrift or wandering without purpose, or homeless (in terms of the question). The eighth House is in an inconjunct relationship with the seventh - it can't be seen. So you are not only week but 'invisible' to that romantic 'other'. This does not look good.

Venus is in the reverse situation. Placed in Libra and on the Descendant she has both power and position. The real issue therefore is, is there anyway that Venus can get to see Mars - that you and the romantic 'other' are brought together?

Venus is in late Libra, and moving slowly after turning direct. Mars is at 19 degrees Sagittarius. Normally this would suggest that the sextile aspect between them has passed and Venus is now moving away - a failure to bring you two together. However Mars is currently the faster planet, so there might be a chance that Mars will apply to Venus by sextile. The answer is that it will indeed apply but before the aspect can be perfected Venus will change sign and the force of that sextile will be lost.

However may not lost, Mercury has recently conjoined with Mars, and is now moving ahead at 22 Sagittarius. Consulting the ephemeris Mercury almost but not quite catches Venus before she changes sign. It's only by less than half a degree but technically the aspect is not perfected. That close I'm loathe to say that nothing will definitely come of it - you might just get lucky right at the end of the period, or see or meet someone who will eventually take on that role. If this does work it's likely to be through the auspices of a mutual friend, or someone whose actions brings you two together.

Sorry that there isn't a definite Yes or No, but an enticing possiblility :)

Edited to add chart

Thank You Minderwiz. Definitely Sounds like an iffy situation :P When you say there is a possibility.. around what dates make the probability higher?

Thanks again! :heart:

Minderwiz
30-11-2010, 01:19
I can't be certain of that - I'm making a guess, as the conjunction will happen almost immediately both planets change signs - so I'd guess that if it's going to happen it's going to be just after the end of the period you quoted but I'm pushing the reading in saying that LOL

Minderwiz
30-11-2010, 02:54
Hi Minderwiz,
If you're still taking questions, I'd like to ask what my love life will be like in the next 6 months. You're a darling to offer readings. I've tried horary before and it hurts my head! :)

Hope your head survives the reading LOL

The chart is cast during the hour of Venus, and has Gemini rising. The
Ascendant ruler is Mercury, and as Venus is the ruler of the Air Triplicity by night I take the chart to be radical, given both Venus and Mercury have rulership in the Air triplicity.

Mercury is sadly not in good condition being placed in Sagittarius (its Detriment) and also being Peregrine. However it is positioned in the Seventh, so it's got good accidental dignity. It's also occidental. It's position in the seventh reflects your desire for a relationship. Indeed this is a strong desire as not only is Mercury in the Sign of the Seventh ruler (Jupiter), Jupiter is also the Triplicity ruler.

Jupiter of course signifies the 'significant other' - the romantic relationship that is the subject of the question. Jupiter is incidentally in the eleventh which signifies your hopes and ambition - and also your friends. Hopes and ambition seems again an appropriate placement and it's possible that a friend might be seen as a possibility Jupiter is In its own sign of Pisces, so the other person (whoever it might be is full of essential dignity - not surprising because you are seeking them (for the purposes of this question) but their concerns lie elsewhere (at the moment). Primarily they are concerned with their own interests.

The Moon is also used as a co-significator for you, and The Moon is in Virgo (ruled by Mercury) but opposed to Jupiter is Pisces.

So what chances are there? Jupiter and Mercury are in a separating aspect, and as Mercury will soon change signs, so Our two main significators are moving apart. These two do not offer much hope of success.

The Moon is applying to an aspect with Jupiter but it's an opposition. Lilly says that he has never come across success through an opposition. In this case things are worse because by the time the Moon perfects the aspect to Jupiter it will also be in partile square to Mars. Two hard aspects, especially with one to a malefic does not suggest success in any way.

So, yes, you are on the lookout for a relationship but I'm sorry to say that nothing here suggests that anything will come of it, during the period in question. The only comfort I can give, apart from the fact that the reading holds for only the sixth month period, is that the Ascendant lies exactly on the Arabic Part of Danger and Peril - so at this moment, it would probably not be a good thing to get a positive reading.

love.actually
30-11-2010, 12:37
Hope your head survives the reading LOL

The chart is cast during the hour of Venus, and has Gemini rising. The
Ascendant ruler is Mercury, and as Venus is the ruler of the Air Triplicity by night I take the chart to be radical, given both Venus and Mercury have rulership in the Air triplicity.

Mercury is sadly not in good condition being placed in Sagittarius (its Detriment) and also being Peregrine. However it is positioned in the Seventh, so it's got good accidental dignity. It's also occidental. It's position in the seventh reflects your desire for a relationship. Indeed this is a strong desire as not only is Mercury in the Sign of the Seventh ruler (Jupiter), Jupiter is also the Triplicity ruler.

Jupiter of course signifies the 'significant other' - the romantic relationship that is the subject of the question. Jupiter is incidentally in the eleventh which signifies your hopes and ambition - and also your friends. Hopes and ambition seems again an appropriate placement and it's possible that a friend might be seen as a possibility Jupiter is In its own sign of Pisces, so the other person (whoever it might be is full of essential dignity - not surprising because you are seeking them (for the purposes of this question) but their concerns lie elsewhere (at the moment). Primarily they are concerned with their own interests.

The Moon is also used as a co-significator for you, and The Moon is in Virgo (ruled by Mercury) but opposed to Jupiter is Pisces.

So what chances are there? Jupiter and Mercury are in a separating aspect, and as Mercury will soon change signs, so Our two main significators are moving apart. These two do not offer much hope of success.

The Moon is applying to an aspect with Jupiter but it's an opposition. Lilly says that he has never come across success through an opposition. In this case things are worse because by the time the Moon perfects the aspect to Jupiter it will also be in partile square to Mars. Two hard aspects, especially with one to a malefic does not suggest success in any way.

So, yes, you are on the lookout for a relationship but I'm sorry to say that nothing here suggests that anything will come of it, during the period in question. The only comfort I can give, apart from the fact that the reading holds for only the sixth month period, is that the Ascendant lies exactly on the Arabic Part of Danger and Peril - so at this moment, it would probably not be a good thing to get a positive reading.

Hi Minderwiz,
My head survived the reading--but just barely! :D
In all seriousness, your insightful reading affirmed what my gut and several other readings (tarot/psychic) have told me. I haven't fully severed ties with my former ex (who has plunged himself into work) and although I feel like one way to truly get over him is to see someone new, I feel like that would be, as your reading put, perilous. Thanks again for this reading, Minderwiz. The level of detail takes my breath away :)

Minderwiz
01-12-2010, 01:26
Hi Minderwiz, are you still open for one more reading? It too is on my love life over the next six to twelve months (big three-oh at the end of December 2011, whoops!). At present, single, but would love to be in a committed relationship (engagement by 30 would be great, but more importantly a committed and healthy relationship with a good man), and even more ideally with my most recent ex.

Let me know if you need more info! I haven't had a horary reading before, am very familiar with natal astrology and basic progressions though.

I've kept the reading to the shorter period you mention. Horaries only tend to work for longer periods in things which by their nature are long term - house purcahses, legal cases, so my comments only apply to the next six months

The chart was cast during the hour of Mercury and has Capricorn rising, making Saturn Lord of the Ascendant and your significator. Both Mercury and Saturn have rulerships in the Air and Earth Triplicities, so there is an indication that the chart is radical.

Saturn signifies you and is placed in Libra where it has exaltation and is the Air Triplicity ruler in a Day chart such as this. So Saturn is strong - a good sign. Not so good is it's placement in the eighth House. One of the reasons the eighth is seen as unfortunate is that it is inconjunct from both the Ascendant and Descendant. In the tradition this was termed a 'non-beholding' aspect - literally and symbolically meaning that a planet in that house could not be seen from the Ascendant/Descendant axis. I interpret that placement as suggesting that the querent (you) is out of sight (and possibly out of mind) by the quesited (the Descendant is the cusp of the seventh House of relationships, partnerships and the significant other person.

The ruler of the Descendant is the Moon, which is also placed in the eighth in the last degree of Virgo. There is no aspect between the Moon and Saturn and the Moon is applying to an aspect with Mercury (a square). That suggests that nothing will come of the question. However it is not the only testimony that I can consider.

The Astrologer, John Frawley, suggests using the Sun, as a co-significator of the male and Venus as a cosignificator of the female in relationship questions. In the other relationship horaries in this thread, using those would make no difference to the reading (they do not add any forming aspect between significators) In your case they do make a difference.

If I use the Sun for him, I find that the Sun is applying to a sextile with Saturn and thus holds out some chance of a positive outcome. I do have some reservations. The Sun is not in any dignity of Saturn (which would indicate some interest in the relationship on his part) and though it is in the Terms of Venus (your other significator) this by no means signifies the strength of desire I would want to see in a romantic relationship.

A little more worrying is that Saturn is not in any dignity of the Sun (indeed it's in its detriment), nor is it in any dignity of the Moon. There doesn't seem to be a romantic drive there. Is it possible that it's the idea of the relationship that interests you and your heart is not fully committed to the idea, or simply, you are not yet ready to take this step? Both Saturn and Venus are in their own dignities (indeed the have a mutual reception) - your focus is heavily on yourself. I'm not trying to be 'hard' here - I don't want you to try and take a step that is not right for you at this time. Your question seems to be too much prompted by your forthcoming 30th - don't be misled by age. My mother was 35 when she got married, my wife 32 and my daughter 31 - it will come, don't rush it.

scorpiogirl
01-12-2010, 19:07
Venus is faster planet than Saturn and is ahead of it in the Zodiac, so it is moving away, that is simple physical reality but it symbolises the situation here, currently you are moving away from him and the relationship - the Mutual Reception shows that you still have strong bonds and your question and response quoted shows that you do not want this 'split' to continue. The only way to stop it is for you to take action. It is not too late to take the step that you want to but you cannot leave it for very long. At the time the chart was cast Venus was less than a degree from leaving Libra nd breaking the mutual reception.

Fixing time in Horary questions is always a little tricky - one could take timing literally and say that you need to contact him in the next day, before Venus actually does leave Libra, which will take place very early on 1st December. So you have a day left.

The Time could be more symbolic - Libra is a Cardinal Sign, which is usually associated with short time periods, as are cadent houses - so you don't have much time at all - I'd say symbolically we're looking at a day here. So both symbolic and real time say make contact quickly.
thanks for that. i keep that in mind what you write. to me too late i feel. but i hope we keep this bond longer time, i am hoping. i am still unsure what to do. thank yo again i appreciate it.

Minderwiz
02-12-2010, 05:50
i am still unsure what to do. thank yo again i appreciate it.

Don't rush into anything in the next 6 months and better still wait for 12, UNLESS 'he' comes to you

Good luck

moonspirit
03-12-2010, 23:26
I can't be certain of that - I'm making a guess, as the conjunction will happen almost immediately both planets change signs - so I'd guess that if it's going to happen it's going to be just after the end of the period you quoted but I'm pushing the reading in saying that LOL


Ahh I see. Thanks again! :)

Minderwiz
04-12-2010, 04:55
I would like to ask, how work and finances will be for me over the next year?

If this question is too much because of 2 subjects, either one will be fine. Thanks M. Priestess.

This reading had to wait because of problems with the considerations before judgement. The chart is cast during the hour of Venus but has Cancer rising. The Moon and Venus are the two female planets, and the Moon is exalted in Venus' sign of Taurus, so I'll take the chart as radical.

You are signified by the Moon, a good significator for 'Priestess'. The Moon is in the sign of Scorpio in the fifth House. In Scorpio the Moon is in its Fall, which is a debility, however, as this is a Night chart, the Moon is the Water triplicity ruler and also has a mutual reception by Face with the Sun. This simply cancels out the debility but does not give the Moon any positive dignity. So your position is somewhat precarious, though it could have been much worse. The fifth House is the House of children and relaxation and traditionally the House of Good Fortune. Don't expect a lottery win but it's not a bad position to be in. Venus lack of power won't deliver a big payoff but the precarious position looks to be leaning to the better outcomes.

The tenth House is the House of career. Pisces is on the MC, making Jupiter the significator of career and employment and Jupiter is conjunct the MC. and the Moon is applying to a trine with Jupiter. Normally this would be a very good sign of getting that good job. Sadly before the trine is perfected the Moon will square the Part of Fortune. Now if the square was to another planet, this would be a situation known as 'Prohibition' which might well indicate that the matter will not be realised or will be seriously delayed. Lilly does not refer to aspects to points as causing prohibition so I don't see your job prospects being seriously harmed. The Part of Fortune relates to health and material matters, so it might be that either health issues or 'real world' events might hinder that job chance. I don't think it will be seriously harmed though.

That the employment won't easily be realised is also shown by your financial situation for the period. The second House of Finance has Leo on the cusp and is ruled by the Sun. The Sun has slight essential dignity and does have that weak mutual reception with the Moon. Thus it's possible that there is a job but in some way it will not easily benefit you very much financially. The Sun is in a weak but applying square to Jupiter, which again suggests some conflict between the job and finances. That could be through high transport costs, or possibly having to move or that you will lose income from other sources. The Part of Fortune lies in the second House and is also ruled by the Sun, so it does suggest some financial improvement though the square aspect suggests that this will not come as easily as the placement suggests.

The Sun is also placed in the fifth House of Good Fortune, so overall I'm optimistic that the financial situation will improve over the year but I don't think it's going to be a mega improvement.

Overall I'm taking the view of cautious optimism here. Apart from Jupiter the significators are not strong, so major improvements are unlikely. The are however all in good houses and usually have good aspects. The Sun's applying square with Jupiter suggests that finances may conflict with the job prospects but overall the finances will not deteriorate and the job might still come off, even if the financial reward for taking it are low.

Priestess
04-12-2010, 05:50
This reading had to wait because of problems with the considerations before judgement. The chart is cast during the hour of Venus but has Cancer rising. The Moon and Venus are the two female planets, and the Moon is exalted in Venus' sign of Taurus, so I'll take the chart as radical.

You are signified by the Moon, a good significator for 'Priestess'. The Moon is in the sign of Scorpio in the fifth House. In Scorpio the Moon is in its Fall, which is a debility, however, as this is a Night chart, the Moon is the Water triplicity ruler and also has a mutual reception by Face with the Sun. This simply cancels out the debility but does not give the Moon any positive dignity. So your position is somewhat precarious, though it could have been much worse. The fifth House is the House of children and relaxation and traditionally the House of Good Fortune. Don't expect a lottery win but it's not a bad position to be in. Venus lack of power won't deliver a big payoff but the precarious position looks to be leaning to the better outcomes.

The tenth House is the House of career. Pisces is on the MC, making Jupiter the significator of career and employment and Jupiter is conjunct the MC. and the Moon is applying to a trine with Jupiter. Normally this would be a very good sign of getting that good job. Sadly before the trine is perfected the Moon will square the Part of Fortune. Now if the square was to another planet, this would be a situation known as 'Prohibition' which might well indicate that the matter will not be realised or will be seriously delayed. Lilly does not refer to aspects to points as causing prohibition so I don't see your job prospects being seriously harmed. The Part of Fortune relates to health and material matters, so it might be that either health issues or 'real world' events might hinder that job chance. I don't think it will be seriously harmed though.

That the employment won't easily be realised is also shown by your financial situation for the period. The second House of Finance has Leo on the cusp and is ruled by the Sun. The Sun has slight essential dignity and does have that weak mutual reception with the Moon. Thus it's possible that there is a job but in some way it will not easily benefit you very much financially. The Sun is in a weak but applying square to Jupiter, which again suggests some conflict between the job and finances. That could be through high transport costs, or possibly having to move or that you will lose income from other sources. The Part of Fortune lies in the second House and is also ruled by the Sun, so it does suggest some financial improvement though the square aspect suggests that this will not come as easily as the placement suggests.

The Sun is also placed in the fifth House of Good Fortune, so overall I'm optimistic that the financial situation will improve over the year but I don't think it's going to be a mega improvement.

Overall I'm taking the view of cautious optimism here. Apart from Jupiter the significators are not strong, so major improvements are unlikely. The are however all in good houses and usually have good aspects. The Sun's applying square with Jupiter suggests that finances may conflict with the job prospects but overall the finances will not deteriorate and the job might still come off, even if the financial reward for taking it are low.

Well all in all this doesn't look too good or too bad Minderwiz. I'm glad the financial side looks as though it will just go along in the same manner it has been recently, not brilliant but not rock bottom as it has been in the past at times. I was told earlier this year in a Tarot reading that job prospects would be practically non existent or difficult to say the least. So I will just need to go with the flow. Thank you for this M I really appreciate the time and effort that you put into this.

Minderwiz
04-12-2010, 05:57
I wouldn't rule out the job, but it won't come easily and I'm not sure you'd be better off financially it it comes. Finances should be a little easier, a positive but not by a huge amount. Don't be too pessimistic, cautious optimism is how I'd term it, but don't expect things to improve dramatically.

Priestess
05-12-2010, 21:52
I wouldn't rule out the job, but it won't come easily and I'm not sure you'd be better off financially it it comes. Finances should be a little easier, a positive but not by a huge amount. Don't be too pessimistic, cautious optimism is how I'd term it, but don't expect things to improve dramatically.


Oh well maybe further down the road some day you'll see that all elusive lottery win for me Minderwiz lol. Thanks for taking the time to reply further to my post. I do get what you mean about not being better off financially, I suppose at the end of the day when full bills get paid it will end up just flat lining, with no improvement really being seen. Oh well back to the drawing board lol!

Minderwiz
06-12-2010, 03:11
Hello Minderwiz,

Thank for opening the horary readings again.

My question is We have selected a house and plan to buy it or another soon, will we be able to buy a house within next 6 months.

Looking forward for the reading

The chart has been cast during the hour of Mars and has Cancer rising, making the Moon Lady of the Ascendant and your significator. The Moon is in Sagittarius, a fire sign and normally a weak placement. This time the Moon has a mutual reception with Jupiter, through triplicity rulership and in its own Face (decante). So it has some strength, providing that Jupiter can come to her aid.

In terms of accidental dignity it's a mixed blessing, being in the sixth House but also Cazimi - the chart was cast at the exact conjunction of Sun and Moon - a New Moon, so we have an additional dimension - a new lunar cycle.

The Moon also rules the second house of financial resources, through Cancer. However I really need a separate signifcator for this, as your financial resources will play a role in the potential surplus. There's no planet in the second so I will use the planet with exaltation in Cancer - which happens to be Jupiter. Jupiter is very strong, being in its own sign of Pisces and also having that mutual reception with the Moon. So your financial position is good, as far as the purchase goes. Jupiter is also placed in the eleventh House of hopes, ambition and motivation, so that too is a good sign.

Let's look at the House. It's signified by the ruler of the IC, Venus. Venus is in Scorpio, where it is in detriment and also peregrine. So the house has problems (even if you don't know it yet), possibly related to water in some way - damp, built on 'boggy' ground or near stagnant water are possibilities but you should investigate carefully for ANY problems with this house.

The Vendor is signified by the ruler of the Descendant - in this case Saturn, through Capricorn. Saturn is in its exaltation of Libra and placed in the fourth House - which suggests that the vendor is still living in the property.

The vendor's financial situation is shown by the eighth house ruler - again this is Capricorn on the cusp, and for the same reason I'll use the planet in exaltation in Capricorn - Mars, to represent the vendor's finances. Mars is in Sagittarius, in it's own Terms but placed in the sixth House and 'Under the beams' - within 17.5 degrees of the Sun. The vendor's finances are not particularly good and as the Sun is moving faster than Mars, Mars is heading into combustion, so the future for the vendor's finances is getting worse.

The vendor probably wants to sell, assuming they can find somewhere else to live and you are in a position to pay the price. The Moon is also moving to a sextile with Saturn, so a deal is a strong possibility - you will get it if you want it.

Please check the house thoroughly before buying - there are problems somewhere but it might not necessarily be bad enough not to buy. As you are more powerful than the seller, you could get the price reduced and still buy, if those problems show up.

A couple of final points - As the chart is cast for a New Moon, the Part of Fortune is conjunct the Ascendant - Fortune is with you, BUT the South Node is also near the Ascendant, and that is an affliction - however, it is 5 degrees away and also separating, so hopefully it's not going to cause trouble. It is however another reason to be careful.

You're in a strong position, simply be careful and things should work out fine. Rushing things and not checking the house might well leave you having bought something you would rather not have bought.

NamasteIndia
06-12-2010, 14:40
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So your financial position is good, as far as the purchase goes. Jupiter is also placed in the eleventh House of hopes, ambition and motivation, so that too is a good sign.
yes we are having financial backing though not much but resonable enough to buy a house in distant suburb.

Let's look at the House. It's signified by the ruler of the IC, Venus. Venus is in Scorpio, where it is in detriment and also peregrine. So the house has problems (even if you don't know it yet), possibly related to water in some way - damp, built on 'boggy' ground or near stagnant water are possibilities but you should investigate carefully for ANY problems with this house.
yes the house is having problems...its on the last floor of the building and usually last floor means rain water leaking in during monsoon and extreme heat during summer also the area is not accessible easily by common public transport so you are very right.


The Vendor is signified by the ruler of the Descendant - in this case Saturn, through Capricorn. Saturn is in its exaltation of Libra and placed in the fourth House - which suggests that the vendor is still living in the property.

the vendor as managed to sell out all the flats except two flats which are on the top floor of this under construction building he is not living there its a under construction site.


The vendor's financial situation is shown by the eighth house ruler - again this is Capricorn on the cusp, and for the same reason I'll use the planet in exaltation in Capricorn - Mars, to represent the vendor's finances. Mars is in Sagittarius, in it's own Terms but placed in the sixth House and 'Under the beams' - within 17.5 degrees of the Sun. The vendor's finances are not particularly good and as the Sun is moving faster than Mars, Mars is heading into combustion, so the future for the vendor's finances is getting worse.

dont know much about this vendor just know that he is decreasing the price to sell off this flat.

The vendor probably wants to sell, assuming they can find somewhere else to live and you are in a position to pay the price. The Moon is also moving to a sextile with Saturn, so a deal is a strong possibility - you will get it if you want it.

ya right we will get if we want to but then there are so many drawbacks there.

Please check the house thoroughly before buying - there are problems somewhere but it might not necessarily be bad enough not to buy. As you are more powerful than the seller, you could get the price reduced and still buy, if those problems show up.

like i said earlier there are problems there and we can search for better houses then breaking our head over this property but we are tired of searching now.

A couple of final points - As the chart is cast for a New Moon, the Part of Fortune is conjunct the Ascendant - Fortune is with you, BUT the South Node is also near the Ascendant, and that is an affliction - however, it is 5 degrees away and also separating, so hopefully it's not going to cause trouble. It is however another reason to be careful.

You're in a strong position, simply be careful and things should work out fine. Rushing things and not checking the house might well leave you having bought something you would rather not have bought.
definitely i agree with you rushing things and not checking will bring lot of cf regret.

Thank you for the wonderful reading but you did not mention whether we will be able to buy HOUSE WITHIN NEXT 6 months OR NOT.

namaste

divan
06-12-2010, 15:25
The chat is cast during the hour of the Moon and has Taurus rising, where the Moon is exalted. I therefore take the chart to be radical and worthy of judgement. You are signified by Venus, ruler of Taurua. Venus is placed in the last degree of Libra where it still has essential dignity but it is slow and placed in the sixth House, which is traditionally associated with sorrow, but also with servants (and therefore employees). So you might be primarily unhappy or primarily an employee (or indeed both) as far as the chart is concerned - which might be what prompted the question.

The Job (employer) is signified by the tenth House - Capricorn, ruled by Saturn. Saturn in turn is placed in the sixth in Libra where it is exalted. The job might well be a good one but it might not make you happy. Saturn in Capricorn is a good symbol for restriction and control - so the job might be seen as restricting your progress (or the employer might have that role).

Your earnings are signified by the second House - Gemini, ruled by Mercury. Mercury is in terrible shape being in its Detriment and Peregrine. It is also placed in the eighth House. So at the moment I would think that your earnings are not good - a further prompt for the question.

That brings me to the real question here - should you look for another job?

One argument for that might be Venus' position on the cusp of Scorpio - a sign that you might be about to leave. But Venus is slow, so a departure from the job is not so imminent, moreover the move into Scorpio would still leave Venus in the sixth but with much less essential dignity - indeed Scorpio is Venus' Detriment. So my feeling is that if you leave now (or in the very near future) you will be worse off, at least in terms of an outlet for your abilities.

The Moon, which is the co-significator in a Horary is on the cusp of the sixth and Peregrine. there's nothing on offer from her and for a successful outcome the Moon really needs to be strong.

The reading is for the immediate future - the here and now - and the answer is very probably that you would be best staying put. Things will change but change now is frying pan to fire.

Hope this helps.

thank you Minderwiz for the reading. It definitely helps. Looks like I'm staying put because I don't have a choice :(

I'm 100% commission thus the money situation is horrible until I get a sale. Yet I am being given an opportunity no one else is giving me. I'd like to get at least one sale before leaving and actually might have to before someone will look at me seriously for employment.

Minderwiz
06-12-2010, 22:46
Thank you for the wonderful reading but you did not mention whether we will be able to buy HOUSE WITHIN NEXT 6 months OR NOT.

namaste

Well You are ABLE to buy this house and within the period = whether you SHOULD is a separate issue, but you are clearly aware of the problems with the house and you might also be able to get a further reduction in the price, as I think the Vendor needs the money quickly.

A second property is a possibility, the Moon is in a dual sign in Sagittarius and Jupiter (your Money) is also in a dual sign (Pisces) - However the fourth House is not a dual sign (Libra) if it had been I'd have said there's another property out there which you can both find and afford within the period.

As it is, it still may happen the chances are good but not strong enough to say more than that.

Ana's Song
19-12-2010, 21:46
Minderwiz sorry about the lateness of feedback. I have to say though, this is a much deeper reading than I was expecting so am glad to have had the time to mull over this as well.

I've kept the reading to the shorter period you mention. Horaries only tend to work for longer periods in things which by their nature are long term - house purcahses, legal cases, so my comments only apply to the next six months

The chart was cast during the hour of Mercury and has Capricorn rising, making Saturn Lord of the Ascendant and your significator. Both Mercury and Saturn have rulerships in the Air and Earth Triplicities, so there is an indication that the chart is radical.
Well I am sun Saturn, moon Aquarius, Sag rising, and Capricorn Mercury and the chart you attached actually looks very similar to my natal chart - lots of empty houses. Thought you might smile at the parallel, I know I did!

Saturn signifies you and is placed in Libra where it has exaltation and is the Air Triplicity ruler in a Day chart such as this. So Saturn is strong - a good sign. Not so good is it's placement in the eighth House. One of the reasons the eighth is seen as unfortunate is that it is inconjunct from both the Ascendant and Descendant. In the tradition this was termed a 'non-beholding' aspect - literally and symbolically meaning that a planet in that house could not be seen from the Ascendant/Descendant axis. I interpret that placement as suggesting that the querent (you) is out of sight (and possibly out of mind) by the quesited (the Descendant is the cusp of the seventh House of relationships, partnerships and the significant other person.
Natally I am Saturn in Libra too so the coincidences keep mounting. I am definitely out of sight of the ex-bf at the moment, and having no other romantic prospects on the horizon, this is ringing true :)

The ruler of the Descendant is the Moon, which is also placed in the eighth in the last degree of Virgo. There is no aspect between the Moon and Saturn and the Moon is applying to an aspect with Mercury (a square). That suggests that nothing will come of the question. However it is not the only testimony that I can consider.

The Astrologer, John Frawley, suggests using the Sun, as a co-significator of the male and Venus as a cosignificator of the female in relationship questions. In the other relationship horaries in this thread, using those would make no difference to the reading (they do not add any forming aspect between significators) In your case they do make a difference.

If I use the Sun for him, I find that the Sun is applying to a sextile with Saturn and thus holds out some chance of a positive outcome. I do have some reservations. The Sun is not in any dignity of Saturn (which would indicate some interest in the relationship on his part) and though it is in the Terms of Venus (your other significator) this by no means signifies the strength of desire I would want to see in a romantic relationship.
Yet another coincidence - he is a sun Leo!

A little more worrying is that Saturn is not in any dignity of the Sun (indeed it's in its detriment), nor is it in any dignity of the Moon. There doesn't seem to be a romantic drive there. Is it possible that it's the idea of the relationship that interests you and your heart is not fully committed to the idea, or simply, you are not yet ready to take this step? Both Saturn and Venus are in their own dignities (indeed the have a mutual reception) - your focus is heavily on yourself. I'm not trying to be 'hard' here - I don't want you to try and take a step that is not right for you at this time. Your question seems to be too much prompted by your forthcoming 30th - don't be misled by age. My mother was 35 when she got married, my wife 32 and my daughter 31 - it will come, don't rush it.
Well, any romantic drive is really more focused on my ex-boyfriend. So I am definitely not in possession of a heart that's free to give to someone else other than him. Nor equipped at present to handle someone else's heart with the due care and consideration it deserves :) I usually do get a bit down around my birthday and with a milestone birthday coming up next year, I was wondering what's potentially in store for me. The focus that is heavily on myself is probably due to me doing a lot of deep work (I think I'm in the middle of my Saturn return to boot, need to check with my psychotherapist-astrologer :)) so your comment about being 'hard' isn't harsh at all. It just seems as if I have been in a dissatisfied rut all year and a lot of it is linked to the romantic aspect of my life, so was wondering if anything with forward momentum/positive was in store. It's hard when everyone keeps saying things will get better, or that I am doing better, and yet I feel no tangible evidence of this at all. For a partnership to materialise by my 30th would just be a nice bonus, the cherry on top so to speak.

NamasteIndia
20-12-2010, 02:48
Well You are ABLE to buy this house and within the period = whether you SHOULD is a separate issue, but you are clearly aware of the problems with the house and you might also be able to get a further reduction in the price, as I think the Vendor needs the money quickly.

A second property is a possibility, the Moon is in a dual sign in Sagittarius and Jupiter (your Money) is also in a dual sign (Pisces) - However the fourth House is not a dual sign (Libra) if it had been I'd have said there's another property out there which you can both find and afford within the period.

As it is, it still may happen the chances are good but not strong enough to say more than that.
Another house offer as come up...lets see where this chase leads too.

Minderwiz
05-01-2011, 00:27
hi minderwiz, this sounds interesting! I have a question as well if you are still taking them. Will there be any romantic relationship opportunities for me in the next 7 months?

The chart has Gemini rising, so you are signified by Mercury. Mercury is placed in the seventh House, which indicates that you are indeed looking for a partnership but by it's very placement in Sagittarius, Mercury is essentially weak, being in detriment, which perhaps shows that you can become vulnerable, as a result. Accidentally it is strong through being angular and direct (though oriental) overall Mercury is fairly strong. The chart therefore confirms that you are looking for a relationship, the issue now is whether the 'other party' is interested.

The possible partner is signified by Jupiter, ruler of Sagittarius. Jupiter is in Pisces, his own sign so is essentially strong. Accidentally he is placed in the eleventh house of hopes and friends - so he may be a current friend or acquaintance for, or simply signifies your hopes. The eleventh house is a fairly strong placement and Jupiter is both direct and oriental, so Jupiter is much stronger by essential dignity and a little stronger by accidental dignity. He is more likely to initiate any relationship than you are. However, Jupiter is not in any of the dignities of Mercury, which does not look good especially as Mercury is applying to a square aspect with Jupiter.

John Frawley uses an additional set of significators in relationship questions, The Sun as a co-significator for the male, and Venus as a co-significator of the female. Now in this chart Venus is in an exact trine to Jupiter, and Jupiter is in the sign of Venus' exaltation.

Now assuming you are female, that suggests there will be a relationship - probably one which is very strong on a physical level but it's unlikely to last. It should be fun whilst it lasts though. At the moment you are probably a bit low and you want some security and stability in your life. If this is so, then I don't see this relationship providing it (assuming it comes off) so be a little careful.

OK, if I have correctly assigned Venus to you, you are likely to have a very good chance of a relationship in the period under consideration - it's likely to be a very strong physical attraction but I don't see it as a long term relationship.

Minderwiz
06-01-2011, 05:28
namaste minderwiz,

if you would be still taking a question then i want to ask
i booked a flat today at K. area im little worried what is going to happen because i have already given the token amount for this flat and remaining payment is huge
please can you do a reading and let me know
My question 'Will i be able to own this flat finally?'

The first chart I cast for this question had Saturn on the Descendant - which is usually taken to mean that the Astrologer's judgement will be prone to error. I therefore cast a second chart, some hours later but I think the original consideration should be remembered.

The chart is cast for the hour of Mercury on the day of Mercury. It has Leo rising, so your significator is the Sun.. These two planets do not share any triplicity, so the doubts raised by chart I have not been dispelled.

I take your use of 'booked' and 'token amount' to mean that you have at least put a deposit on the flat even if you have not yet signed a final agreement.

The Sun is in the fifth House in Capricorn, the house of his opponent Saturn. Although the Sun has a mutual reception by Face with Mars, exalted in Capricorn, but the mutual reception is a very weak one. The Sun therefore is not essentially strong, and the placement in the fifth adds little to the strength. So you are not strongly placed in this agreement for a flat. You also want the landlord, or at least his flat.

The landlord is represented by Saturn ruler of Aquarius on the Descendant. Saturn is placed in Libra, where he is exalted, and in the third House. Essentially Saturn is much stronger than the Sun, which suggests the owner of the flat is much stronger than you (especially as you have signed the contract). In terms of accidental dignity Saturn is not quite as well placed but overall is the stronger planet.

The flat itself is signified by Mars ruler of the IC. Mars is essentially quite strong, being in his exaltation and terms. So the flat is in very good condition for the money. Mars has just entered combustion but rather than treat this as a debility, I'll say it indicates your new control over the flat, as you are signified by the Sun. So if you can hang onto this flat it will be well worth it.

Your own income and financial means is signified by Mercury ruler of the second House. Mercury is on the cusp of the fifth, in its detriment of Sagittarius. You are right to have concerns about your ability to afford the flat. Jupiter, Mercury's dispositor rules the eighth, which in this reading is the resources and finance of the landlord/flat owner. If you have taken out a loan or mortgage then he controls it, if you are paying rent then the rent is much to his benefit and in the latter case you will find it difficult to also save money to buy the flat. Mercury does sextile Jupiter, but in this case one should not take that as showing anything more than your income easily flowing into the Landlord's bank account. Mercury also sextiles Venus, ruler of the MC and your employer/career - if you like these two sextiles add up to 'easy come (from your work) easy go (to the landlord)'.

Saturn and Jupiter are not in any dignities of the Sun, so I don't see any sympathy for you if you have problems with rent/mortgage. Indeed Saturn and the Sun are in an applying square. If you have simply put a deposit down, but not yet signed the final contract, then I feel that the contract will not be finalised, more likely because you pull out, though possibly because the owner puts up the price. If you have signed the final contract, then you will have difficulties paying for this flat. Either way I would suggest you seek financial advice over this matter.

scorpiogirl
06-01-2011, 05:49
Don't rush into anything in the next 6 months and better still wait for 12, UNLESS 'he' comes to you

Good luck
wanted to update. he contacted me. hope everything goes well. so far i think things are good. i am happy but still shoudl take it slow, so many things need to be said and heard. we have not yet talk face to face, yet! thank you again.

NamasteIndia
06-01-2011, 14:48
The first chart I cast for this question had Saturn on the Descendant - which is usually taken to mean that the Astrologer's judgement will be prone to error. I therefore cast a second chart, some hours later but I think the original consideration should be remembered.

The chart is cast for the hour of Mercury on the day of Mercury. It has Leo rising, so your significator is the Sun.. These two planets do not share any triplicity, so the doubts raised by chart I have not been dispelled.

I take your use of 'booked' and 'token amount' to mean that you have at least put a deposit on the flat even if you have not yet signed a final agreement.

The Sun is in the fifth House in Capricorn, the house of his opponent Saturn. Although the Sun has a mutual reception by Face with Mars, exalted in Capricorn, but the mutual reception is a very weak one. The Sun therefore is not essentially strong, and the placement in the fifth adds little to the strength. So you are not strongly placed in this agreement for a flat. You also want the landlord, or at least his flat.

The landlord is represented by Saturn ruler of Aquarius on the Descendant. Saturn is placed in Libra, where he is exalted, and in the third House. Essentially Saturn is much stronger than the Sun, which suggests the owner of the flat is much stronger than you (especially as you have signed the contract). In terms of accidental dignity Saturn is not quite as well placed but overall is the stronger planet.

The flat itself is signified by Mars ruler of the IC. Mars is essentially quite strong, being in his exaltation and terms. So the flat is in very good condition for the money. Mars has just entered combustion but rather than treat this as a debility, I'll say it indicates your new control over the flat, as you are signified by the Sun. So if you can hang onto this flat it will be well worth it.

Your own income and financial means is signified by Mercury ruler of the second House. Mercury is on the cusp of the fifth, in its detriment of Sagittarius. You are right to have concerns about your ability to afford the flat. Jupiter, Mercury's dispositor rules the eighth, which in this reading is the resources and finance of the landlord/flat owner. If you have taken out a loan or mortgage then he controls it, if you are paying rent then the rent is much to his benefit and in the latter case you will find it difficult to also save money to buy the flat. Mercury does sextile Jupiter, but in this case one should not take that as showing anything more than your income easily flowing into the Landlord's bank account. Mercury also sextiles Venus, ruler of the MC and your employer/career - if you like these two sextiles add up to 'easy come (from your work) easy go (to the landlord)'.

Saturn and Jupiter are not in any dignities of the Sun, so I don't see any sympathy for you if you have problems with rent/mortgage. Indeed Saturn and the Sun are in an applying square. If you have simply put a deposit down, but not yet signed the final contract, then I feel that the contract will not be finalised, more likely because you pull out, though possibly because the owner puts up the price. If you have signed the final contract, then you will have difficulties paying for this flat. Either way I would suggest you seek financial advice over this matter.
I have paid earnest amount for this flat its a huge amount. The contract as not been signed.
The flat is in a good location but underconstruction and possession will be given around november
the overall monthly installment and EMI will be exhorbiant and we will have to go across our throat to pay the amount.
i will let you know finally whatever happens. presently we have taken a temporary halt

thank you for your effort and reading

god bless.

Minderwiz
10-01-2011, 05:23
Hi Minderwiz,

My question is this. I graduate this May and so I am beginning my search for a full time job. I would like to know where I should be looking to get the most beneficial result, and what sort of prospects there will be for me.
Clarification
I mean which method, for example should I just be looking at listings, or asking particular contacts. Although geographic location is something I am looking at as well so can that be part of the question as well?

This is the third attempt at a radical chart, so please bear in mind that there is some doubt. The chart is cast at the hour of Mars, and has Virgo rising, making Mercury Lord of the Ascendant. Mars and Mercury share no triplicity, which casts further doubt on the radicality of the chart.

With Virgo rising you are signified by Mercury, a good significator for a 'student' awaiting qualification. Mercury is in Sagittarius, it's detriment so is essentially weak (which suggests that the employment market is a buyers' market) but Mercury is in the fourth House and so is angular which puts you in a good position for the job market and further enhanced by being direct and not under the Sun's beams. Its only accidental debility is that it is oriental. Overall despite the job market being a buyer's market you are well placed to be successful.

The issue is getting that job. Looking at the tenth, it is ruled by Mercury too, with the cusp being in Gemini. That is good preliminary indicator that things will go well.

Mercury is squared by its ruler, Jupiter, who rules the fourth and seventh Houses. Jupiter is in Pisces and is itself angular in the fourth. Jupiter is stronger in dignity than Mercury and I take that as further evidence of your weakness relative to the job market..

Where should you look for the job?

Clearly Mercurial sources are important - with Mercury in the fourth, you might use your home internet connection and search for jobs online.as perhaps your primary source, Mercury is in the sign and triplicity of Jupiter, so Jovian characteristics must have relevance - Jupiter is large and expansive, so look for very prominent sources as your second line of attack. Jupiter rules and is placed in the seventh House so 'other people' may help - that is people who are not friends or relatives. Lastly, with Mercury placed in the fourth, your parents, especially your father may prove useful.

In terms of geographical direction, I would use several indicators, following Lilly:

The sign of the Ascendant - Virgo, which is South by West
The sign of the ruler of the Ascendant - Sagittarius which is East by South
The sign on the IC - Sagittarius East by South
The sign of the ruler of the IC - Jupiter in Pisces, which is North by West
The sign of the Moon - Pisces which is North by West
The sign on the Tenth cusp - Gemini - West by South
The sign of the ruler of the tenth - Sagittarius - East by South

So

North = 2
South = 5
East = 3
West =4

So the most probable direction is South West.

SilentBreeze
10-01-2011, 05:57
Thanks so much for the reading. I'm pretty new to astrology so what does it mean if it took so many attempts to create a chart? Is it that the answer is unknown yet, or that I probably shouldn't know yet?



This is the third attempt at a radical chart, so please bear in mind that there is some doubt. The chart is cast at the hour of Mars, and has Virgo rising, making Mercury Lord of the Ascendant. Mars and Mercury share no triplicity, which casts further doubt on the radicality of the chart.

With Virgo rising you are signified by Mercury, a good significator for a 'student' awaiting qualification. Mercury is in Sagittarius, it's detriment so is essentially weak (which suggests that the employment market is a buyers' market) but Mercury is in the fourth House and so is angular which puts you in a good position for the job market and further enhanced by being direct and not under the Sun's beams. Its only accidental debility is that it is oriental. Overall despite the job market being a buyer's market you are well placed to be successful.

The issue is getting that job. Looking at the tenth, it is ruled by Mercury too, with the cusp being in Gemini. That is good preliminary indicator that things will go well.

Mercury is squared by its ruler, Jupiter, who rules the fourth and seventh Houses. Jupiter is in Pisces and is itself angular in the fourth. Jupiter is stronger in dignity than Mercury and I take that as further evidence of your weakness relative to the job market..


The economy had been pretty tough on everyone, and many people who graduated are having difficulty. The school that I am graduating from is one of the best for the career that I am hoping for that this will help me out so I guess I might have a bit more going for me then others.


Where should you look for the job?

Clearly Mercurial sources are important - with Mercury in the fourth, you might use your home internet connection and search for jobs online.as perhaps your primary source, Mercury is in the sign and triplicity of Jupiter, so Jovian characteristics must have relevance - Jupiter is large and expansive, so look for very prominent sources as your second line of attack. Jupiter rules and is placed in the seventh House so 'other people' may help - that is people who are not friends or relatives. Lastly, with Mercury placed in the fourth, your parents, especially your father may prove useful.


So far I have been using the internet as my search, as I am not the best at networking. However I've been advised that other people or connections would be a better way to go, so its good to hear that the internet is a worthy resource, in addition to other people. So prominent sources --would that be large companies? or better known websites for the search? Friends and relatives are not involved in the industry so the help they have been bringing me has never amounted to anything. My father offered to help me get a job but it would have to be in his field and would require me to get a different education.


In terms of geographical direction, I would use several indicators, following Lilly:

The sign of the Ascendant - Virgo, which is South by West
The sign of the ruler of the Ascendant - Sagittarius which is East by South
The sign on the IC - Sagittarius East by South
The sign of the ruler of the IC - Jupiter in Pisces, which is North by West
The sign of the Moon - Pisces which is North by West
The sign on the Tenth cusp - Gemini - West by South
The sign of the ruler of the tenth - Sagittarius - East by South

So

North = 2
South = 5
East = 3
West =4

So the most probable direction is South West.

I am choosing between staying in New York, or moving to California (south west) which is something recent that I began to think about seriously, so that's another sign I might want to move. Especially since I prefer warmer climates.

Thanks for the reading, even though it was so troublesome...I'm still wondering what that means, that it was so difficult.

Minderwiz
10-01-2011, 22:40
The internet is a good mechanism for your job search and I think is your primary one, but don't neglect those other people (Jupiter is Mercury's dispositor and signifies those others). If your current efforts are heavily internet oriented then I'd say shift the balance a bit towards the 'others' and take up the advice you have been given - but keep the internet as your prime source.

This area is perhaps the one that I was most unsure of in terms of interpretation, as it's the first time I've had such a question and it presented a new challenge (thank you!) Your comments on the reading have reassured me that I was perhaps on the right lines.

The geographic directions I'm happier with. As with most horary directions, there's not a unanimity among the directions but there is a clear predominance for the South West. What this suggests is that a job can come from any direction but that the chances are greater for one coming from the South West. Using your comments I'd say it's more probable that you will be better placed for a job in California.

Minderwiz
11-01-2011, 00:48
If you're still accepting sitters, I actually have two questions, but you can pick whichever one you'd prefer to do.

The first is just how my love life is looking over the next six-ish months. If there is anything that I can hope to start growing during this time.

And the other is that I'm graduating in June, and would just like to know how getting a job might look for me around then.

The chart is cast during the hour of Saturn and has Gemini rising, so Mercury is the Ascendant ruler. As Saturn is the ruler of the Air triplicity by Day, I take this chart as radical.

You are signified by Mercury, who is angular in the seventh and in Sagittarius. Essentially the Moon is debilitated, so you are rather weak in relation to both these issues. Dealing with the romance question first:

Your significator in the seventh is a strong significator of the desire for a relationship, and the lack of essential dignity is a sign more of vulnerability than any other weakness. Jupiter is the ruler of the Seventh, and thus the possible significant other. Jupiter is in Pisces in the eleventh. Although not in any dignity of Mercury, Jupiter is conjunct the Moon, which is your co-significator in a horary and both these two are trined by Venus, the co-significator of the female in a relationship horary and sextiled by the Sun, the co-significator of the male in a relationship horary. All of which looks good for a romance - The Venus aspect is separating, as is the Moon/Jupiter conjunction, but unless you have only just separated from a relationship, I'd say that the Moon/Jupiter still holds. So I'd say your chances of a relationship within the period are good.

The job is signified by the ruler of the tenth - Saturn. In terms of a job, your qualifications might not be quite what they are looking for but you are very well placed, as Mercury has a lot of accidental dignity - You have the chance of being in the right place at the right time, IF they choose to look.

There is, however, no forming aspect between Mercury and Saturn, nor between the Moon (your co-significator) and Saturn, so I'm afraid that during the time period the chances do not look good that a new job will come your way

Minderwiz
12-01-2011, 02:49
What area(s) of study should I pursue in my Bachelor of Arts degree at University?

Thank you. :)

This is virtually the same question that you asked in the third round of horary questions and I answered

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=145712&page=13&pp=5

post #64

Please refer to the answer there and provide some feedback if you want me to go further

le.jour.obscurcit
12-01-2011, 16:44
I'm sorry! I must've forgotten I asked this question a while back, because this is the first I've seen it. I'll send you feedback in a PM. Thank you.

Minderwiz
13-01-2011, 03:06
Thanks for the PM and feedback I'll have a look at your natal chart but perhaps you could give me a choice of two or three courses that you think are your main options - I know you gave some indication in the PM but it will give you the opportunity to way up the options and I'll see what I can do to rank them for you.

cherryberry
13-01-2011, 04:12
The chart has Gemini rising, so you are signified by Mercury. Mercury is placed in the seventh House, which indicates that you are indeed looking for a partnership but by it's very placement in Sagittarius, Mercury is essentially weak, being in detriment, which perhaps shows that you can become vulnerable, as a result. Accidentally it is strong through being angular and direct (though oriental) overall Mercury is fairly strong. The chart therefore confirms that you are looking for a relationship, the issue now is whether the 'other party' is interested.

The possible partner is signified by Jupiter, ruler of Sagittarius. Jupiter is in Pisces, his own sign so is essentially strong. Accidentally he is placed in the eleventh house of hopes and friends - so he may be a current friend or acquaintance for, or simply signifies your hopes. The eleventh house is a fairly strong placement and Jupiter is both direct and oriental, so Jupiter is much stronger by essential dignity and a little stronger by accidental dignity. He is more likely to initiate any relationship than you are. However, Jupiter is not in any of the dignities of Mercury, which does not look good especially as Mercury is applying to a square aspect with Jupiter.
aha, hopes and friends - so one cant really know which one of both it is.


John Frawley uses an additional set of significators in relationship questions, The Sun as a co-significator for the male, and Venus as a co-significator of the female. Now in this chart Venus is in an exact trine to Jupiter, and Jupiter is in the sign of Venus' exaltation.

Now assuming you are female, that suggests there will be a relationship - probably one which is very strong on a physical level but it's unlikely to last. It should be fun whilst it lasts though. At the moment you are probably a bit low and you want some security and stability in your life. If this is so, then I don't see this relationship providing it (assuming it comes off) so be a little careful.
i am indeed a female. Fun while it lasts is a good thing too, i'm still young ;)
yeah was feeling a bit sad a few days ago, some changes with friends moving to other countries etc, but am moving on :)

The chart has Gemini rising, so you are signified by Mercury. Mercury is placed in the seventh House, which indicates that you are indeed looking for a partnership but by it's very placement in Sagittarius, Mercury is essentially weak, being in detriment, which perhaps shows that you can become vulnerable, as a result. Accidentally it is strong through being angular and direct (though oriental) overall Mercury is fairly strong. The chart therefore confirms that you are looking for a relationship, the issue now is whether the 'other party' is interested.

The possible partner is signified by Jupiter, ruler of Sagittarius. Jupiter is in Pisces, his own sign so is essentially strong. Accidentally he is placed in the eleventh house of hopes and friends - so he may be a current friend or acquaintance for, or simply signifies your hopes. The eleventh house is a fairly strong placement and Jupiter is both direct and oriental, so Jupiter is much stronger by essential dignity and a little stronger by accidental dignity. He is more likely to initiate any relationship than you are. However, Jupiter is not in any of the dignities of Mercury, which does not look good especially as Mercury is applying to a square aspect with Jupiter.
aha, hopes and friends - so one cant really know which one of both it is.


OK, if I have correctly assigned Venus to you, you are likely to have a very good chance of a relationship in the period under consideration - it's likely to be a very strong physical attraction but I don't see it as a long term relationship.
thats already an interesting prospect, even if its not long term

Thanks Minderwiz!

obeygravity
13-01-2011, 04:50
The chart is cast during the hour of Saturn and has Gemini rising, so Mercury is the Ascendant ruler. As Saturn is the ruler of the Air triplicity by Day, I take this chart as radical.

You are signified by Mercury, who is angular in the seventh and in Sagittarius. Essentially the Moon is debilitated, so you are rather weak in relation to both these issues. Dealing with the romance question first:

Your significator in the seventh is a strong significator of the desire for a relationship, and the lack of essential dignity is a sign more of vulnerability than any other weakness. Jupiter is the ruler of the Seventh, and thus the possible significant other. Jupiter is in Pisces in the eleventh. Although not in any dignity of Mercury, Jupiter is conjunct the Moon, which is your co-significator in a horary and both these two are trined by Venus, the co-significator of the female in a relationship horary and sextiled by the Sun, the co-significator of the male in a relationship horary. All of which looks good for a romance - The Venus aspect is separating, as is the Moon/Jupiter conjunction, but unless you have only just separated from a relationship, I'd say that the Moon/Jupiter still holds. So I'd say your chances of a relationship within the period are good.

Gosh, I wish I really understood all of these terms because for the most part I was just kind of like :confused: But yeah, I haven't been in a relationship in some time so to hear this is pretty comforting hahaha!

The job is signified by the ruler of the tenth - Saturn. In terms of a job, your qualifications might not be quite what they are looking for but you are very well placed, as Mercury has a lot of accidental dignity - You have the chance of being in the right place at the right time, IF they choose to look.

There is, however, no forming aspect between Mercury and Saturn, nor between the Moon (your co-significator) and Saturn, so I'm afraid that during the time period the chances do not look good that a new job will come your way

Augh. Well, I'm going to start applying for jobs back home around the end of february/beginning of march so hopefully something will come up because I have to start paying off student loans the moment I graduate :x Thanks!

Minderwiz
16-01-2011, 00:16
How about: Should I pursue Psychology or Cinema Studies at University?

The chart has Aquarius rising, making your significator Saturn. Saturn is in exaltation in Libra and is also the triplicity ruler, in its own face and has a mutual recepption with Jupiter by terms - the very high essential dignity indicates that you have all the qualities necessary for the course/s Saturn is in the eighth which reduces it's dignity score. The eighth house has a variety of not very pleasant meanings but here I think the appropriate ones are fear. worry and anxiety - I don't want to overstress that, it's more that you are in a rather sombre state of mind and somewhat worried about this choice.

The course is signified by Mars, ruler of the ninth House. Mars has affiliations with the medical profession, certainly clinical psychology could well be indicated by Mars. Scorpio is a water sign - often identified by psychological Astrologers with the sub conscious or instinctual behaviour.

Mars is in exaltation in Capricorn and placed in the twelfth House, where it is also combust (conjunct the Sun). Now whilst in other contexts I would take that as being unfortunate, here it has symbolism that is relevant to the question. The twelfth House is concerned with the secret and the hidden. Arguably, psychology is concerned with the secrets which we hide from ourselves and the hidden structures (Capricorn) behind our behaviour.

Mars is of course also ruled by Saturn, strongly indicating it's connection to you.

I don't see a signification of Cinema Studies here, I would have expected Venus to have been more prominent or Jupiter but I do see a signification of Psychology. That would seem to be your best choice - assuming that it is possible to secure such a course

Minderwiz
19-01-2011, 02:27
Hi Minderwiz,
You gave me a reading back in June that so far has proved correct. If you're still doing readings for round 4, I'd love another.

That question was about a romantic relationship with a specific person within a year. As I said, no go on it yet, so it's been accurate.

So, I'd like to know what the likelihood is of me being in a romantic relationship with anyone in the next 6 months.

Thanks!

This question relates to a romance with anyone else, except the person enquired about in your last horary. This chart is cast at the hour of the Moon and has Cancer rising, so there is complete agreement between hour ruler and Ascendant ruler.

You are signified by the Moon, which is in Cancer and thus highly dignified essentially but is placed in the twelfth, which indicates that in some way or other you are hidden from prospective partners, for example because of work commitments, or some activity that keeps you occupied for a lot of your time.

Your motivations seem to be oriented towards yourself, and your career/profession or role in society - romance comes third on the list, through Venus, who is triplicity ruler for the Seventh House.

The prospective significant other is signifed by Saturn ruler of the Seventh House, and possibly an indicator of an older or more serious and reliable person.

Saturn is in Libra, in the fourth - the possible SO is a home person, and in Libra Saturn is in it's exaltation ruled by Venus so her prime interest is whatever Venus represents in the chart, which through rulership are the home and friends, thereafter she's concerned with herself. Your only hope here is that Venus is triplicity ruler for the seventh and this might indicate an interest in romance.

Interest is not enough, we need some link between the Moon and Saturn, and we do have an aspect - the Moon is applying to a square with Saturn. There may be a chance of romance, but it will not be easy and if it does come to pass you might well regret it.

The Astrologer, John Frawley, uses co-rulers, Sun for the male and Venus for the female but I feel that having established a relationship between our prime significators, it's not going to yield anything new by looking at them, nor would I think that it would lead to overturning my judgement. I only use them if I don't get a result from the prime significators In this case neither Sun nor Venus aspect each other, Venus does not aspect the Moon and the Sun does not aspect Saturn.

So it's unlikely that something will easily materialise in the next six months. If if does the course of true love will not run smooth and might well lead to some regret, especially as the Moon is in the detriment of Saturn - the interest is likely to be one way

EyeAmEye
19-01-2011, 02:55
This question relates to a romance with anyone else, except the person enquired about in your last horary. This chart is cast at the hour of the Moon and has Cancer rising, so there is complete agreement between hour ruler and Ascendant ruler.

You are signified by the Moon, which is in Cancer and thus highly dignified essentially but is placed in the twelfth, which indicates that in some way or other you are hidden from prospective partners, for example because of work commitments, or some activity that keeps you occupied for a lot of your time.

Your motivations seem to be oriented towards yourself, and your career/profession or role in society - romance comes third on the list, through Venus, who is triplicity ruler for the Seventh House.

The prospective significant other is signifed by Saturn ruler of the Seventh House, and possibly an indicator of an older or more serious and reliable person.

Saturn is in Libra, in the fourth - the possible SO is a home person, and in Libra Saturn is in it's exaltation ruled by Venus so her prime interest is whatever Venus represents in the chart, which through rulership are the home and friends, thereafter she's concerned with herself. Your only hope here is that Venus is triplicity ruler for the seventh and this might indicate an interest in romance.

Interest is not enough, we need some link between the Moon and Saturn, and we do have an aspect - the Moon is applying to a square with Saturn. There may be a chance of romance, but it will not be easy and if it does come to pass you might well regret it.

The Astrologer, John Frawley, uses co-rulers, Sun for the male and Venus for the female but I feel that having established a relationship between our prime significators, it's not going to yield anything new by looking at them, nor would I think that it would lead to overturning my judgement. I only use them if I don't get a result from the prime significators In this case neither Sun nor Venus aspect each other, Venus does not aspect the Moon and the Sun does not aspect Saturn.

So it's unlikely that something will easily materialise in the next six months. If if does the course of true love will not run smooth and might well lead to some regret, especially as the Moon is in the detriment of Saturn - the interest is likely to be one way

Not sure what to make of this...
There is really nothing at all on my plate that is taking up my time nor energy. My job (won't call it a career because it really isn't) doesn't take a lot of my time and I can honestly say I don't even care about it at all. Being a mostly solitary figure, social involvement is at a minimum, so there's nothing taking my time in that front either. At this point, romance is my top priority. I have a goal I have set for myself within the next 4 years, and the last part of it that isn't established yet is romance, so it is my focal point and has been for quite some time.

As for the other end of the coin, the "SO", I certainly would prefer someone more serious and reliable. Age is not of importance to me, within limits of course. A home person would be nice too, though self absorbed might not be so great.

It is interesting you mention that even if something developed, I might regret it. I have been told this before. Only difference is the person reading for me (tarot reading) told me something would develop and I would regret it. Seems I can't win either way :)

Thank you again for the reading, I truly appreciate it.

Minderwiz
19-01-2011, 04:32
Not sure what to make of this...
There is really nothing at all on my plate that is taking up my time nor energy. My job (won't call it a career because it really isn't) doesn't take a lot of my time and I can honestly say I don't even care about it at all. Being a mostly solitary figure, social involvement is at a minimum, ....

Well I did say

...which indicates that in some way or other you are hidden from prospective partners, for example because of work commitments, or some activity that keeps you occupied for a lot of your time.

work commitments was an example but being a 'solitary figure' with 'social involvement...at a minimum' is another way of being 'hidden' from prospective partners.

You say that your priority is romance and you've set yourself a 4 year goal but things don't work that way. If you have such a programme it's 'your programme' and it's priority is 'you' - that is to get you a partner. This might not be your conscious intent but it's the underlying or subconscious reason. Such intentions rarely work out in a successful relationship. My daughter once set herself a similar goal and nothing worked. Then she went off on a get away from it all holiday and met her future husband!

As for the other end of the coin, the "SO", I certainly would prefer someone more serious and reliable. Age is not of importance to me, within limits of course. A home person would be nice too, though self absorbed might not be so great.

Well the SO here looks to meet those criteria,

It is interesting you mention that even if something developed, I might regret it. I have been told this before. Only difference is the person reading for me (tarot reading) told me something would develop and I would regret it. Seems I can't win either way :)

Thank you again for the reading, I truly appreciate it.

Well the reading here does indicate a possible relationship - if it occurs it will be with difficulty and you may well regret it. So you have two separate readings which come to the same conclusion, one Tarot and one Astrology. Before you get too despondent, remember that you set a six month time limit on this reading, so it's not the end of your romantic aspirations. Try not to push things, take up a hobby that gets you out to meet people of both sexes in a non-romantic environment, or even take a holiday which involves some social interaction. Increasing your 'exposure' is the best strategy and don't have 'romance' as your driving ambition. You'll find it will come along naturally

EyeAmEye
19-01-2011, 05:02
Well I did say

work commitments was an example but being a 'solitary figure' with 'social involvement...at a minimum' is another way of being 'hidden' from prospective partners.

You say that your priority is romance and you've set yourself a 4 year goal but things don't work that way. If you have such a programme it's 'your programme' and it's priority is 'you' - that is to get you a partner. This might not be your conscious intent but it's the underlying or subconscious reason. Such intentions rarely work out in a successful relationship. My daughter once set herself a similar goal and nothing worked. Then she went off on a get away from it all holiday and met her future husband!

Well the SO here looks to meet those criteria,

Well the reading here does indicate a possible relationship - if it occurs it will be with difficulty and you may well regret it. So you have two separate readings which come to the same conclusion, one Tarot and one Astrology. Before you get too despondent, remember that you set a six month time limit on this reading, so it's not the end of your romantic aspirations. Try not to push things, take up a hobby that gets you out to meet people of both sexes in a non-romantic environment, or even take a holiday which involves some social interaction. Increasing your 'exposure' is the best strategy and don't have 'romance' as your driving ambition. You'll find it will come along naturally


I hadn't considered it from that angle. What you say is quite true. No worries, I am never despondent no matter what happens, that is by far my finest quality.

Have to try your deprogramming suggestion, perhaps that will do the trick. Thanks for the advice.

Minderwiz
20-01-2011, 00:32
My question is this: Will I be evicted from my home? Thank you.

Modified question

Will the judge find in my favour?

Although SubtleGrace has not met the guidelines, a prelimary horary, cast before the question was finalised revealed that the situation was indeed serious and was a major feature in my decision to take the question along with PM discusisions. The PM discussions reveal that a court case is involved, and is crucial to the outcome, so the question has been modified by agreement. There is also a subsidiary question involving whether the financial aid applied for will arrive in time, but the court case will happen first and so is the main thrust of the question.

I am following John Frawley's procedures here. you as querent take the first house and so are signified by Venus. Those who will oppose your case are represented by the Seventh House and so are signified by Mars. The Judge in the case (either a person or the legal process) is signified by the Tenth House and in this case is signified by Saturn (Capricorn on the MC). The outcome will be shown by the Fourth House (end of the matter) - signified by the Moon. In so far as you have help and support in your case, this is shown by the Second House (your lawyer or advisors) the opposing lawyers, etc are shown by the Eighth House. We therefore have quite a complex situation to examine.

You

Venus is in Sagittarius, in it's own terms and has a mutual reception by triplicity with the Sun. The Sun is in it's own Face and triplicity is not a strong mutual reception but it does mean that you are a little stronger than you would otherwise have been. Venus is in the Seventh, the House of those who oppose you so although angular, it's not the best position to be in. However it is not in Scorpio, the sign on the Descendant and so is not fully under the control of 'the enemy'. Venus is oriental of the Sun and that weakes it a little but she is direct, free from the Sun's beams, not afflcted by the malefics. So your position is by no means weak going into the case

Your 'substance'

This is shown by Mercury ruler of the second. Mercury is in it's own terms but otherwise not dignified. Accidetally Mercury is conjunt the Ninth cusp (hopes and dreams) and is also oriental. direct and free from the Sun's beams. He is also free from affliction by the malefics. Your 'support' for the case is not in bad condition but could be a lot better. What matters now is the condition of your 'opposition' and the judge. If you are not being represented in the court by anyone, then Mercury becomes the money that you hope to achieve (Mercury on the cusp of the ninth House of hopes and dreams). The money is good but there's no immediate aspect between Mercury and Venus so it's doubtful if the money will significantly influence the outcome.

Your Opponents

These are the people who would see you evicted. They are signified by Mars. Mars is peregrine in Aquarius and is combust but is also fast in motion. Overall though, it appears that your opponents are weaker than you are.

Opponents's substance

This is signified by Jupiter, ruler of the Eighth, Jupiter is in Pisces, it's own sign so it is significantly more dignified than you or your 'substance' Even worse it has a mutual reception with Saturn by terms. Although this is a minor dignity, it suggests that there's a weak predisposition on the part of the Judge to listen favourably to them. Jupiter is the natural significator of the Law, so it suggests that your opponents will be represented by a very well qualified lawyer (in the context of the case). Accidentally Jupiter is in the twelfth, which might be seen as an accidental debility (though Jupiter is also Lord 12) and Jupiter is occidental (a debility for the superior planets). The lawyer is good but the 'case' they will present is weak, however they are more commanding of attention than you and your representatives/support/resources

The Judge

The Judge is Saturn, in Libra, it's exaltation. However as Libra is the sign of Venus, the Judge will be sympathetic to your case. Saturn has rulership by triplicity and Face and so he/she is essentially strong - you will get a good judge. Saturn is in the sixth, an accidental debility. Saturn is also oriental (an accidental dignity) direct, free from the Sun's beams but is approaching it's station retrograde and is very slow in motion. A little worrying is that Saturn actually squares the MC. The good judge is in a situation where their judgment might be a little erratic, possibly through illness (Saturn in the sixth). The Sun is also in the tenth and as we have seen there's a mild mutual reception between the Sun and Venus. So there's more support for you there in the legal process. Remember also it is the Sun who weakens your opponents.

The Outcome

This is shown by the Moon,. The Moon is strong in this chart, in her own sign of Cancer as well as being in her own sign she's also in her own Face. Very interestingly she is in the triplicity and terms of Venus but the Fall of Mars. The Outcome prefers you to the opponents. The Moon is also applying to an opposition to the Sun, (your support within the legal system) and to a trine to Jupiter (your opponent's lawyer) - the opposition to the Sun will be reached first but not before the Sun itself sextiles Jupiter.

This case seems to be finely balanced, the factors pushing towards your victory are that you have more essential dignity (right is on your side) and more accidental dignity than the opposition. Moreover the Judge probably likes you more (in term of the case put he/she is sympathetic)

Against you, the opponents have a better lawyer and the judge might be predisposed towards his argument, not withstanding his sympathy. I think he will still lean towards you as Venus' rulership beats Jupiter's terms. But the only forming aspects here are from the Moon (outcome) to Jupiter (Opposition lawyer) and Moon opposing Sun. As the latter gets there first (a Full Moon incidently) I'm hoping that indicates that the lawyer's victory will be frustrated by the decision. of the court.

Don't assume this will be easy, have your evidence well thought through and well presented. Try and get supporting statements as to your financial aid - showing that it is in train and will come through. and try and cover every angle. Although Jupiter is accidentally debilitated in the twelfth, he is Lord 12 and it might be that he has something hidden or secret that will be sprung on you. So take care!

Please let me know how the things go.

PS As I've had to use the second House here, for the personal support you get, I'm not sure whether that allows me to use Mercury for a completely different role, so I think the subsidiary question will require another chart - unless you are representing yourself without support or advice. In that case Mercury is your hoped for finance. There's no aspect between Venus and Mercury, so in that case things are not likely to work out. But if you haven't taken legal advice I'd be very much surprised and I think Mercury is a signification of that advice.

SubtleGrace
21-01-2011, 14:14
All went well. I met with the opposing attorney and worked out a "deferred rent re-payment plan", meaning my rent will go up to make up the difference. Simple and easy.

Thank you very much for your compassion and guidance. Knowing where to focus my energy and how to be prepared made all the difference in the world.

Jaime

Minderwiz
21-01-2011, 22:54
Thanks for the feedback. And I'm really glad that things are moving in the right direction and will now hopefully work out.

Did your meeting with the attorney render a court hearing unnecessary or did it occur after a hearing.? I want to see if I've missed an indicator that there would be a pre-hearing settlement.

BTW I hope you will continue to post in this forum, even if it is simply to ask questions about Astrology

jfiallo0982
18-02-2011, 01:47
Hello!!
Minderwiz I have a request. Whenever you're doing another round of horary, I would like to ask a question. Is related to my son, when ever you do that please consider me!!! Thanks.

Minderwiz
18-02-2011, 04:16
Well I'm going to start the next round after the weekend. So take some time to mull over your question and you should be able to post it sometime on Monday

jfiallo0982
18-02-2011, 05:33
Well I'm going to start the next round after the weekend. So take some time to mull over your question and you should be able to post it sometime on Monday


I have my question, in fact i've had it for a while now. I'll post it tonight
Thank you again Minderwiz.

Minderwiz
18-02-2011, 05:57
Can you hang on till I start the new thread - otherwise I'll end up in the wrong sequence. It should be open either on Sunday or Monday

jfiallo0982
18-02-2011, 11:17
Can you hang on till I start the new thread - otherwise I'll end up in the wrong sequence. It should be open either on Sunday or Monday



Ok. I'll wait.

Minderwiz
19-02-2011, 02:21
Ok. I'll wait.

I'll treat you as having booked the first reading, even if someone gets in before you on the posts.

jfiallo0982
19-02-2011, 05:51
I'll treat you as having booked the first reading, even if someone gets in before you on the posts.

Thank you! You are so kind.