Reading a book

mzansi-afrika

22-09-2011, 12:18

Scotty_Bane

23-09-2011, 06:49

You are not mad. You are just drawn to listen to the Universe. What you are doing is called Stichomancy - the process of divination through books and lines of written word. I only know of this process being done in a state of trance while looking at or through the lines of words, but this is along the same lines and is quite interesting to me. I would appreciate any more info you gather or is revealed to you on the matter.

Scotty_Bane

23-09-2011, 08:13

Also I would love to sit for this. Ill provide whatever feedback you like as I am very interested in this process.

Sorry for not adding this in my 1st post :)

ramin

23-09-2011, 10:07

I am amazed how we all create our own ways of connecting with universe . I have done this for about 15 years. Whenever I want an answer I go to a meditation/divination books etc and open a page. I usually find an answer or an example how to deal with the situation.
Universe always gives us answers to our problems only thing is we have to believe in it.

mzansi-afrika

24-09-2011, 05:04

Also I would love to sit for this. Ill provide whatever feedback you like as I am very interested in this process.

Sorry for not adding this in my 1st post :)
:) Thanks for your comments Scotty Bane and ramin, its a relief to hear that. Scotty what is your question?

Scotty_Bane

24-09-2011, 09:06

Hello!
I wouldn’t like to do a predictive reading. It is just to see if I can get a general idea of what’s going on with the sitter.

That is what I thought the idea was. A general read on me. I would like to see this work for us so lets keep the question broad and hope for a broad range of information to hit you. So for my question I would like some guidance for my most recent endevor.

graspee

24-09-2011, 16:56

The classic example of course is using the bible, which people have been using in this way for years. I remember when we did Far From the Madding Crowd by Thomas Hardy at college there is a scene where the heroine, Bathsheba Everdene uses a bible in this way to try to divine something about her love life.

Cat*

24-09-2011, 21:29

If you put "bibliomancy" into the search box you'll find several threads where people have read just that way. We even had some delightful bibliomancy exchanges back then.

(This is not meant to crush your fascination with your new discovery, by the way, just as extra information in case anyone is interested!)

Bibliomancy has a special place in my heart, although I rarely practice it. Maybe I should change that...

KMilliron

24-09-2011, 23:11

I was considering doing this. I have lots of physical books, but I also have over 30 gigabytes of ebooks. (1 Gigabyte= 1024 Megabytes, 1 megabyte= 1024 kilobytes, Stephen King's It is 1774 Megabytes. To give you an idea of how many books I have)

I'm not experienced with other ereaders, but in the kindle you can go to a location that's dictated by a number. Choose a random number, be sent to a random section. It would work. Personally I'd choose one of the books I haven't read yet, just to make things interesting.

Cat*

24-09-2011, 23:32

I'm not experienced with other ereaders, but in the kindle you can go to a location that's dictated by a number. Choose a random number, be sent to a random section. It would work. Personally I'd choose one of the books I haven't read yet, just to make things interesting.
I love that idea! You could also ask people to give you a random number between the ones given by the Kindle but not tell them the book you're using.

KMilliron

24-09-2011, 23:41

I love that idea! You could also ask people to give you a random number between the ones given by the Kindle but not tell them the book you're using.

One page (with the smallest font) will say something along the lines of location 1657-1843 so there are plenty of numbers to choose from, haha.

SunChariot

25-09-2011, 02:27

Hello!
I don’t know if anyone has tried this. Its silly but the other day I was lazy to pick up my cards and shuffle so I decided I was going to get a reading from a book. I used a book I’ve read before and from one of my favourite authors. Asked a series of question like in a spread . I‘ve tried this twice and strangely it seems to work :/, for me anyway. With tarot I normally make up a spread as I go along with specific questions and of course the card that comes up for each question is the answer, as you normally do :) . Anyway I thought I’d try this on someone else just to see what happens. How I do it is I ask a question and pick a page then in that page choose the sentence I’m drawn to. It might be one , two or three sentences and that becomes the answer to the question. However I ask the questions and pick the pages first before going back to read and sift out the clues. I’ve gone completely mad I know, but these days it seems I’m lazy to shuffle lol.

I wouldn’t like to do a predictive reading. It is just to see if I can get a general idea of what’s going on with the sitter. It might not work out, all I want to see is if my two readings have just been flukes :). The book is called Butterfly Box, and by the way I’ll see if I can check with a single tarot clarifier card.
What do you think? It will be a short reading of course.

I have actually tried this before and it has worked for me to. My understanding of how the Universe works is that no matter what tool we use to get answers, if we ask the answers will be sent through that method. I even thing there is a name for this type of divinination. If it were a Bible it would be called Biblomancy (not sure of the spelling) but i am sure there is a name for it with other books too.

I have tried using all kinds of methods in my time. And tney pretty well all worked, even looking at a candle flame and decided that if it was bobbing up and down the answer was yes and moving from side to side the answer was no. Or the time I spread out lots of photographs and read them as if they were cards. It all worked. And yes I have done what you have too and it worked for me too, It was not a fluke.

Face it, we will in a world that loves to communicate with us in any way we ask. :heart:
It will work if you beleive in it or at least are willing to do so, and take it seriously. It ought to work with almost any book.

Babs

rwcarter

25-09-2011, 05:39

According to dictionary.com, Bibliomancy is defined as:

bib·li·o·man·cy [bib-lee-oh-man-see]
noun
divination by means of a book, especially the Bible, opened at random to some verse or passage, which is then interpreted.

and Sitchomancy is defined as:
Stich"o*man`cy\, n. [Gr. ? a line + -mancy.] Divination by lines, or passages of books, taken at hazard.

So either could be used to describe the technique.

KMilliron

25-09-2011, 23:09

I'm a huge supporter of banned books week, so I may offer readings using banned/challenged books in the divination section.

le_charior

26-09-2011, 06:25

I'm a huge supporter of banned books week, so I may offer readings using banned/challenged books in the divination section.

banned books week... learned something new, i had never heard of that before.

sounds like a fascinating method of divination, with real books or ebooks alike!

EDITED TO ADD: here is the first exchange Cat* mentioned above, or at least one bibliomancy exchange: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=94027 Lots of interesting stuff to read, I am very tempted to try this myself now, just need to get some appropriate books out!

And I found a very amusing thread where gregory did readings from Alice in Wonderland: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=141976

Glass Owl

26-09-2011, 23:16

My Twilight Saga Audiobook passage readings are basically bibliomancy with a twist. Same goes for my iPod song divination readings. There have been times that I have combined them with Tarot or Oracle cards.

amethyst57

27-09-2011, 02:41

the main character in Wilke Collins' book 'the moonstone' used 'robinson caruso',
if he needed guidance with a problem or was stressed out....
interesting way of divination, if ya find a book that works for ya like that...
some people use just a dictionary....but i do think some of the classic novels or shakespeare would be more interesting to try....

KMilliron

27-09-2011, 02:46

I would suggest Perks of Being a Wallflower, it's my favorite book and I relate to it well. The character has an interesting thought process so snippets of his mind would definitely give you something to think about.

mzansi-afrika

27-09-2011, 11:04

That is what I thought the idea was. A general read on me. I would like to see this work for us so lets keep the question broad and hope for a broad range of information to hit you. So for my question I would like some guidance for my most recent endevor.

Crikey I’ve been swamped by work and everything out there. So sorry I’ve been awol. Scotty I finally got to it and I’ve managed a general reading for you. From the Butterfly Box this is what I got , I’ve typed a few excerpts from it (I hope this will not be copyright infringement :/). Its just obviously to describe my interpretation for anyone that hasn’t read that book. Ok here goes nothing…

1.Tell me the physical world and factors affecting Scotty re this recent endeavour. Page 91
“ He’d wire money to England, enough for them to live well. Helena should have been grateful, his offer was generous but she only felt bitterness”

2. How Scotty feels, their needs/wants/aspirations regarding this endeavour. p353
Federica stalled by the door, trembling. “I’m so nervous I feel sick” she said hoarsely. “I won’t know what to say”.

3.It’s process/progress recently. p425
“I’ll befriend your wife if you make time to see me” she bargained.
….
“You probably don’t remember meeting me at the wedding. You had to be introduced to so many new people”

4.Anything Scotty needs to know about this endeavour which might be useful. p209
…Then she told him about Hal and her shoulders eased up and her throat loosened until she began to laugh without bitterness or resentment.

Clarifier- Mystic dreamer deck...2 of Cups reversed.

1.Ok I took this to mean you are comfortable enough materially * or in near future you may well be.
2. Generally you feel uneasy about something but can’t pinpoint it. You might be doing something that other people like family/friends want you to do but isn’t really what you seek. However it might feel like you’re already in too deep to go backwards.
3.Progress has likely been marred by deception of some sort.
4. Something that might be useful is having an open mind and looking at things afresh, relax and don’t dwell too much on past mistakes as that might frustrate your efforts in the present.

Clarifier indicates it to be relations with someone and its on a deep emotional level.

Ok! That's me being vague. You know, this book is a romance so the chances of the reading leaning towards that are quite high.

*I peeped at bottom of deck and found a 9xPents reversed just for fun, might mean mean something or maybe not.

mzansi-afrika

27-09-2011, 11:07

According to dictionary.com, Bibliomancy is defined as:

and Sitchomancy is defined as:

So either could be used to describe the technique.

I love love love the Bible! I might use that sometime for myself.

mzansi-afrika

27-09-2011, 11:29

Oh and its great to see the interest in the subject from so many of you. Cat I'm not crushed :laugh: :love:. Rather its comforting to know i'm not crazy. Sunchariot you know i had a dream many years ago probably at age 14/15. I saw a whole verse from the bible and it was from the one of the 10 commandments. The words appeared very clearly as if i was actually reading the bible but I was not allowed to see the text surrounding it.
When i woke up i went straight for the bible. I often read my mum's bible when alone at home. She had been given as a gift but for some reason she didn't want to touch it, i tried to offer it to her but she showed no interest. I loved it cos it was brand new leatherbound and beautiful with gold-edged pages. So it was no surprise that i was familiar with the text, size and font of that bible. When it appeared in a dream i knew it came from that bible cos there were two others in the house.
So i headed straight for the index at the back cos at that time i was not aware that the verse i'd seen was a continuation of one of the commandments. But you know what i never found it. Even when i used keywords from the verse i never found the verse. On looking in the other bibles i had no luck either. My family didn't know where it was. It was only maybe 5/6 years later that i asked a friend of mine in church and they told me.

The explanation of what bibliomancy is here is quite interesting. It has just brought it all home to me and i now don't feel bad about it cos i saw this in a dream all those years ago only i didn't know what it is. So it can't be wrong. My dreams are usually very useful to me.
Thanks for all your participation. Knuckles crossed about Scotty and feeling sheepish.

rwcarter

27-09-2011, 12:08

Now that we all know what the terms are for using verses from a book for divination, further discussion on the topic should happen over in the Divination forum (http://www.tarotforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=18). Let's try to keep this thread about mzansi-afrika's exchange using tarot along with excerpts from books.

mzansi-afrika

08-10-2011, 10:52

Oh dear *blink, blink* . I was so wrong then :/

Wendywu

08-10-2011, 19:03

What about?

I think it's a very valid subject, and an interesting way of reading. I had a "fun" bibliomancy reading once from a member which was amazingly accurate!

I'll happily have a reading from you, if you're OK with reading for me. I'll give full feedback and be hugely interested in your technique. When I've seen how it works in practice, I wouldn't mind having a go at this :)

mzansi-afrika

13-10-2011, 20:11

Hello Wendywu! :) Ok I'll give it another go. I might use another book though or Bible, whatever. Say when you ready and tell me your question. I'm off today.

DownUnderNZer

13-10-2011, 20:20

I have tried reading parts of pages from different books before...when doing reading practises and learning to use intuition etc...from recipe books, novels, a Harry Potter novel of all things! :grin: And although not quite a book...my fave was an A4 blank piece of paper all scrunched up (not too tight) and whatever was seen in it was given to the sitter. And once...my sister and I weeks apart with the same SITTER got the EXACT same impressions/images/symbols. WOW! It was a lot of fun and such a productive experience. :)

I miss doing HOT CHAIR (chat room) as well, but on here I am sure that would be left for the SPIRITUAL rooms as that was where I remember doing something like that....what wonderful memories. :heart:

Must be others with similar experiences surely?

Cat*

14-10-2011, 05:36

And although not quite a book...my fave was an A4 blank piece of paper all scrunched up (not too tight) and whatever was seen in it was given to the sitter.
Sounds like a great technique! *bookmarking the idea for later reference*

Wendywu

15-10-2011, 18:50

Hello Wendywu! :) Ok I'll give it another go. I might use another book though or Bible, whatever. Say when you ready and tell me your question. I'm off today.

OK - sometime in the coming week if you can please?

What would be my best strategy for calming pre-event nerves - thinking specifically of an ultramarathon on the 22nd of this month .....

DownUnderNZer

15-10-2011, 18:57

Sounds like a great technique! *bookmarking the idea for later reference*

Recommended...seriously! And its a lot of fun....

I remember seeing alphabet letters, an eagle, sometimes faces, I got something on two sisters once, saw the pyramids and prism shapes a few times, mail boxes, roads, houses, hills...a whole lot of stuff! Only ever tried it a handful of times, but it was a great activity to do and awesome when given back feedback connected to exactly what was just given to the sitter. Amazing....

mzansi-afrika

18-02-2012, 05:04

OK - sometime in the coming week if you can please?

What would be my best strategy for calming pre-event nerves - thinking specifically of an ultramarathon on the 22nd of this month .....

Hey Wendywu, so sorry i never got back to you about this. I hope your marathon went great though. As for me and the reason why i did not fulfill my promise -too much scary stuff happened and basically i stopped reading tarot. Too many bad dreams, spiritual attacks and burning in my sleep so i gave it up.