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fairyhedgehog
12-08-2003, 20:01
A thread in 'Talking Tarot' asking for Spanish tarot forums made me think. Is there scope to have foreign language forums on aeclectic?

The big issue would be whether we have moderators fluent enough in the language to cope and to translate reliably for Solandia as needed. I know Diana speaks French, I wonder what other talent we have here?

Or is this totally impractical? It would be good if we could do it as it would be meeting people's needs.

Rusty Neon
13-08-2003, 15:13
This sounds like a Tower of Babel possibility. However, if we're taking votes for being able to post in other languages, chalk me up for French, so that I can get more French practice.

Jeannette
13-08-2003, 15:32
What about allowing bilingual posts? In other words, posting in English, with the translation below for those who care to provide (or attempt) it. I suppose free reign to make posts in multiple languages that would clutter up the boards a bit too much, but perhaps such posts could be restricted to certain threads or forums?

-- Jeannette
http://www.tarotgarden.com

Indigo_lady
13-08-2003, 15:57
Originally posted by Jeannette and/or Lori
What about allowing bilingual posts? In other words, posting in English, with the translation below for those who care to provide (or attempt) it. I suppose free reign to make posts in multiple languages that would clutter up the boards a bit too much, but perhaps such posts could be restricted to certain threads or forums?

-- Jeannette
http://www.tarotgarden.com

ummm

I just think that if you start a thread in English it should stick to English... sameway if you want to do Swahili, you should start the thread from the begining in Swahili. Just because when you're jumping from one language to another people who already got caught up in the conversation would be left out...

plus - myself I would be too lazy to translate my posts from one language to another right away ... I already do that for a living :-p

wavebreaker
13-08-2003, 16:46
Hm, I don't think we should start mixing languages in the current forums, even if people do give translations. I think it would clutter up the discussions too much and make posts too long to read.

I do understand people would like to have a forum in their own language since it's often much easier and more convenient to discuss things in your native language, but I somehow feel it doesn't really go with an international forum, the aim of which is the exchange of information between everyone, regardless of the language they speak. Forums in different languages will be limited to just a small group of people (those who speak the language).

It would also use up forum resources, especially if there would be several different language forums (Spanish and French have already been mentioned). I think those resources should be used to provide services for all members, not just a limited group. Unless of course people would be willing to pay for the language forums.

Diana
13-08-2003, 17:20
Mixing up different languages in one post is a big mess. And many posts would end up not translated, and the meaning of the different post would get lost. And it would be unfair on the thread originator.

And translations are tricky - it is easy to mistranslate someone. I would really hate that. And moderating such kind of threads is impossible.

I like Aeclectic in English.

Jeannette
13-08-2003, 17:26
Valid points all. Thanks for your responses.

-- Jeannette
http://www.tarotgarden.com

firemaiden
14-08-2003, 01:43
We toyed around with the idea for a French forum. But you know, one thing that is cool about this forum, is that we all have some English, no matter how rudimentary we may feel that is, it works to communicate -- I love it that we have people from all over the world contributing here. It seems that English is pretty much become the 'lingua franca' hahahah of the international world.

You all know how much I love languages. I use French, Italian, German and Spanish to converse with various different people on a daily basis, and wouldn't give it up for the world, but... I think it would be a nightmare for aeclectic. I often post quotations from German and French sites, but I translate the quotes into English first.

wavebreaker
14-08-2003, 03:18
How about scheduled chats in different languages in the Chat room (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/chat.html) on Aeclectic though? I suppose nobody would mind the occasional hour when it's not available for English speakers.

Just an idea... ;)

dolphinprincess
14-08-2003, 03:22
i've seen several webpages with the following link at the bottom:

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

It could let people translate any posts on their own, as opposed to posting in all different languages...

just another idea :o)

isthmus nekoi
14-08-2003, 03:23
I'm all for Japanese!! Or we could all speak esperanto lol.

Actually, scheduled chats sounds very feasible, tarotlady. Je pense que c'est une tres bonne idee! (heh heh, trying to practice my French - it's supposed to read: "I think it's a very good idea".)

Aun
14-08-2003, 03:28
If you need a Portuguese speaking person, count on me.
I'm from Brazil, although I live in the US for years.
Just let me know.

Peace,
Aun

Indigo_lady
14-08-2003, 03:36
I was just lurking around

in the meantime since it seems that most of us don't have the time right now to create sites or forums as an answer to our cultural diversity, what about just starting off with things like tarot yahoo groups in the language of our choice ?? Does anyone know how that works?

wavebreaker
14-08-2003, 04:05
Originally posted by Indigo_lady
in the meantime since it seems that most of us don't have the time right now to create sites or forums as an answer to our cultural diversity, what about just starting off with things like tarot yahoo groups in the language of our choice ?? Does anyone know how that works? It's very easy: just go to the groups home page (http://groups.yahoo.com) and click on "Start a new group". It will tell you exactly what to do... ;)

By the way: there is already a Dutch group, called Tarot-nl (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Tarot-nl/).

Jeannette
14-08-2003, 05:33
My expressed desire (in the earlier thread mentioned) to see non-English or bilingual posts was rooted in a desire to have an opportunity to improve my Spanish skills by using them to discuss a subject I know and love with folks I've come to feel comfortable with in the online community. However, I would be the first to admit that the purpose of the Aeclectic forum is not to provide linguistic instruction. I can see how branching into other languages could be a potential "slippery slope" to a "Tower of Babel," as Rusty Neon so eloquently put it.

However, as much as I'd like the opportunity to engage in non-English (for me, Spanish) tarot discussions, the thought of joining yet another tarot chat group actually doesn't appeal to me. Having such discussions, in one form or another, on Aeclectic seemed like an ideal solution, since it would have kept everything conveniently in one place. I've found the vBulletin system used by this tarot forum (and a few others) to be vastly superior to other forum formats out there -- and most especially, IMHO, to the one used by Yahoo. The threads here are well-organized and easy-to-follow, the search feature is very functional and useful, and the PM system is a nice tool.

If anyone here starts up a Spanish-language tarot chat board, do let me know, as I'm motivated enough to join even though it means one more board to monitor. But forgive me if I took a brief moment to indulge a fantasy...
:)

-- Jeannette
http://www.tarotgarden.com