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I thought this would be a good place to put any feedback or reading discussions that come out of the random reading Qs.
have you had a lenormand reading given to you, or a self reading that didnt come to fruition and you want to discuss?
Ronia in the random Q&A section asked about valentines day and got the following from BrightEye:
Paths - Ring - Rider
Is there a man in your life? I think he may pop the question.
Originally Posted by Ronia
No, I have no one in my life, I'm not sure this is about love, so I'll ask: Is this Ring and the news love related or else?
Mountain - Dog - Moon
I would say this is a friend who is far away from you and harbours romantic feelings for you. He's missing you.
From MK:
Originally Posted by Ronia
Q: Is this someone I'm romantically interested in?
Coffin flower anchor
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Snake
No not romantically interested but someone you recently became closer friends with ( A female person). If you are bisexual this could be a base for romantic interests
I'm re-posting here: regarding the February and Saint Valentine's readings - nothing happened. If needed, I can dig them out of the thread. I'm curious if anyone else has had more success and what the feedback will be. I noticed that in the beginning of the first Q&As thread, when we played for a while with you Red, things were surprisingly correct. I get the feeling the cards stopped responding at one point but let's see what the others will share.
I'm re-posting here: regarding the February and Saint Valentine's readings - nothing happened. If needed, I can dig them out of the thread. I'm curious if anyone else has had more success and what the feedback will be. I noticed that in the beginning of the first Q&As thread, when we played for a while with you Red, things were surprisingly correct. I get the feeling the cards stopped responding at one point but let's see what the others will share.
Mountain - Dog - Moon
this was the response to 'is this love related' the moon here could be love related, but is also about cycles, same as the ring it can be about going round in circles or completion of a cycle. the mountain could simply be a 'no'.
Paths - Ring - Rider
this was the original reading, i can see how this could be seen as romantic, but since there is no partner on the scene perhaps that changes the picture, the ring in the central card, flanked by paths which is new direction or decision, and rider which is news coming, or a young person.
now we know nothing happened we can ask if you had any communication from a younger person that perhaps wanted to date you and you werent interested? if not we can perhaps see the paths as a decision to change direction romantically?
in the mystical the rider would be running towards the ring, the paths would lead to the ring, but both would be opposing so it would look like your going in circles.
metatron3
27-02-2012, 22:18
in the mystical the rider would be running towards the ring, the paths would lead to the ring, but both would be opposing so it would look like your going in circles.
I wasn't in the loop the first time but looking at it now, I would have said the same thing : things are going round. Loop. An horse in a jumping circuit, a garden path that goes round and a ring that just symbolize the circle.
isnt hindsight fabulous...lol
No, guys. Nothing, zero. No news, no invites, no changes in romantic direction, nothing. The Rider is very often a man actually but not in this case. Now with the Mountain-Dog-Moon, I can almost 100% say this has been regarding my ex (Dog) who (I suspect) has got into a new relationship (because he's moving in to a house which he a/bought or b/ is someone else's house). And the Mountain is distance, he's living away from me. But in this case the cards were not referring to my St. Valentine's at all.
And Paths-Ring-Rider could be about a decision to sign a contract and me getting the news about it - his purchase. But no Valentine for me. Which is weird because it would mean the cards didn't answer the question at all, again.
BrightEye
27-02-2012, 22:44
Or maybe sometimes the cards are just off? I find that a lot in these game threads because the readings are done quite quickly and maybe with less attention and focus than other readings.
Could be. Although I personally always focus before pulling. I don't focus more on my GTs to be honest.
No, guys. Nothing, zero. No news, no invites, no changes in romantic direction, nothing. The Rider is very often a man actually but not in this case. Now with the Mountain-Dog-Moon, I can almost 100% say this has been regarding my ex (Dog) who (I suspect) has got into a new relationship (because he's moving in to a house which he a/bought or b/ is someone else's house). And the Mountain is distance, he's living away from me. But in this case the cards were not referring to my St. Valentine's at all.
And Paths-Ring-Rider could be about a decision to sign a contract and me getting the news about it - his purchase. But no Valentine for me. Which is weird because it would mean the cards didn't answer the question at all, again.
did you get the news around valentines day? because if so this could fit, the mountain is also a blockage, so it could be the way you felt after the news? if the question was ' good news for me romance wise on valentines day' then you might have got something a little bit clearer and focused on you, but this was asking about the day so it could have ended up being a general reading.
Rider could be the news of commitment from a man, or it could be the man you used to be commited too.
did you on the day think your going round in circles in love?
No, I got the news yesterday but it may have happened then... I don't know what else to think. And no, Velntine's day was just a regular day, I wasn't thinking much about anything, spent it with my son as usual.
No, I got the news yesterday but it may have happened then... I don't know what else to think. And no, Velntine's day was just a regular day, I wasn't thinking much about anything, spent it with my son as usual.
the only other thing i can think of is the rider is your son, did you do anything that could have linked to the paths+ring
Your system is intriguing. Just looking at the cards, I'd likely have come up with something different - there are things that need to be addressed, but the basis of a relationship would be friendship, trust and loyalty, with the possibility for a commitment, maybe even marriage.
In your system, how did you know to stop reducing the numbers at the scythe? Why not break 10 down to 1 - the rider? The same could be done with the combinations - the book would become the coffin, the lilies the ship, and the scythe would be the rider.
interesting, i would see the scythe as suddenly, and the rider confirming that.
birds fox dog path ring
I think i would have seen the spread more about the decision to change from friendship into a commited relationship, the dog being the centre card of friendship, birds//ring could be worries or conversation about commitment, the fox might be that he will need time contemplate that, but i couldnt see it being bad, but also i dont see that it answer the question about being happy or not, just that there will be a discussion and likely it will lead to commitment, but nothing for the outcome of that
That's kind of how I saw things too. There are some problems that may or may not be surmountable. They're mostly on his side and he does need time to contemplate. We have had a lot of conversations and there are worries on both our sides. The rider seems to be a theme in my spreads lately. To change a friendship into a committed relationship, I assume happiness would be involved. It is a happy friendship (albeit a bit stressed right now), so the cards could just be advising to look at how things are now. What would be add to the relationship? Is that what's missing? Is it causing happiness/unhappiness now? Or they could just be saying try it and see. There's no harm and things just might work out.
I dont always see going from friendship to commited relationship as happy, it sometimes brings other things out that as a friend you wouldnt have seen, saying that i dont see any card to say it couldnt be, but i dont think the cards are telling you yes or now which is what you asked. also once you go into a relationship the goal posts change and sometimes you cant go back to friends, its not always a two way street, things change.
MK is right in that you asked a yes/no question and if the scythe is the answer to that its likely a no, and the rider can bring good news but also can be very fickle as a person.
I am not sure the decision is in your hands to be honest, the fox here is looking after their own interests, fox//path would lead me to beleive he would have to make the decision so therefore its out of your hands really.
I agree completely. I honestly don't know if we'd be happy or if things would work. We're happy as friends, but a lot would change and who knows if we'd be happy. There would be a lot of things to address. I think if we did decide to pursue things, it would take a lot of time before a committed relationship would be feasible. I also know the decision isn't in my hands. I tried to make a decision and got a very loud cosmic message that it wasn't mine to make. I think if I tried to make it again, a bird will literally poop on my head.
lol @the bird thing!
perhaps you need to reword the question the next time you ask the question, perhaps something like ' what would be the outcome for me, of persuing a commited relationship with x' or ' what should i do about my relationship with x?'
Looking at MKs reading i can see why she said no, and the scythe can go either way...it might go round in circles until you decide to cut it (scythe)
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 02:20
MK is right in that you asked a yes/no question and if the scythe is the answer to that its likely a no, and the rider can bring good news but also can be very fickle as a person.
I am not sure the decision is in your hands to be honest, the fox here is looking after their own interests, fox//path would lead me to beleive he would have to make the decision so therefore its out of your hands really.
Before you both go too far on this, there is no scythe in the spread that MK had done... There is an assumed scythe by adding numerical values. The cards themselves were:
Birds - Fox - Dog - Path - Ring
The question aught to be answered with these only. Personally, I hate Y/N spreads, but this one seems positive.
Before you both go too far on this, there is no scythe in the spread that MK had done... There is an assumed scythe by adding numerical values. The cards themselves were:
Birds - Fox - Dog - Path - Ring
The question aught to be answered with these only. Personally, I hate Y/N spreads, but this one seems positive.
yes we know its an assumed scythe, but we are also looking at MKs perspective to see why she said it was a no, and she wanted to read it with a scythe so i think it counts.
y/n are not always good, i like a simple 1 card for that and gauge if its postive or not from that. if she asked if there would be a commited relationship at the end i would have said its a yes.
how does it tip to postive for you LE? i am simply curious as always!
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 02:35
The only reason I'm arguing this one is because the summing up of cards is complicating the reading needlessly in my opinion. On the one hand, fate has given MK those cards to answer a y/n question, why morph them or cloud their meaning further..? If the cards had meant to answer scythe and coffin, doom and gloom, they would have said so at the onset.
Ergo, I don't look at a confusing amount of information that seems to negate the primary message of the cards. I'm leaving that out and basing myself on the cards drawn only.
Birds - not really yay or nay? Agreed? These may be communication.
Fox - not really yay or nay? This might mean the precariousness of the situation
Dog - sounds like a weak yes in the middle like that. Friendship, nice!
Path - not a yay or nay but it's an indication of outcome, look where it leads:
Ring - a yes, if I have ever seen one, and it's the outcome card...
The only reason I'm arguing this one is because the summing up of cards is complicating the reading needlessly in my opinion. On the one hand, fate has given MK those cards to answer a y/n question, why morph them or cloud their meaning further..? If the cards had meant to answer scythe and coffin, doom and gloom, they would have said so at the onset.
Ergo, I don't look at a confusing amount of information that seems to negate the primary message of the cards. I'm leaving that out and basing myself on the cards drawn only.
Birds - not really yay or nay? Agreed? These may be communication.
Fox - not really yay or nay? This might mean the precariousness of the situation
Dog - sounds like a weak yes in the middle like that. Friendship, nice!
Path - not a yay or nay but it's an indication of outcome, look where it leads:
Ring - a yes, if I have ever seen one, and it's the outcome card...
i agree on the not yay or nay, i tend to want to have either a big spanking positive card or more yay than nay cards. also the path leads to commitment, but doesnt mean its happy as there is no happy cards there for me, a ring is a glue card, but is commitment good? or is it neutral?
i really find this interesting how we interpret the cards so differently :-)
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 03:06
The ring in this instance isn't a relationship. It's a yes to whether or not they would be happy together. :) go ahead and try to get an answer for her using the question you put forward and see if it comes up differently. You got me curious. :D
MoiraKarin
28-02-2012, 03:46
Your system is intriguing. Just looking at the cards, I'd likely have come up with something different - there are things that need to be addressed, but the basis of a relationship would be friendship, trust and loyalty, with the possibility for a commitment, maybe even marriage.
The same could be done with the combinations - the book would become the coffin, the lilies the ship, and the scythe would be the rider.
i thought it seemed intrigueing not to cut down the numbers...To their lowest numbers but let them match until nr 36 ..
T
In your system, how did you know to stop reducing the numbers at the scythe? Why not break 10 down to 1 - the rider?
This is what i feel is not really accurate, thus avoid doing.. Why using the numbers 1...9, while there are 26 other cards to use, as to get extra info from...
I have taken my weekly as an example of how this works
What to be expected to come in, this coming week feb 25th- march 2nd[
Child star mice cross tree lilies heart
I first take a look at what I feel it means:
Mice cross tree
Anxiety and hurt mentally
Child lilies heart:….Some new kind of passion I might get interested in
Child star (lillies) heart:…. Etc
If a reading confuses me I can ask further Question or dig deeper…
Child star = 13+ 16= 29= lady
If I would add the mice it will pass the 36. So in here I separate the lady as a key word
• From the lady I proceed further and take the mice which is placed next to the star
Lady mice( anxiety about a woman)= 29 + 23= 52 This I will reduceto 7= snake
I will stop here if I would use the cross I will pass 36
Cross+ tree=( mental profound sadness) 36 + 5= 42=6= clouds
Clouds+ Lillie=( troubles caused by this intention with the purpose to create balance) 36= cross+ heart ( my sincere intentions being discharged cut me real deep): So I will stop here as well, not because of the nr 36 but I see the last card of the reading as a stop and thus I do not continue dissecting
Lady snake clouds cross
What I expect to the highlight of this week are worries between me and another woman I understand the cross as well, for I am sort of ‘ cut up’ with this snake and I somehow need to deal with this
MoiraKarin
28-02-2012, 03:56
Before you both go too far on this, there is no scythe in the spread that MK had done... There is an assumed scythe by adding numerical values. The cards themselves were:
Birds - Fox - Dog - Path - Ring
The question aught to be answered with these only. Personally, I hate Y/N spreads, but this one seems positive.
I did not see it as a yes or no at first..I think that a path does not always lead to the ring i felt in this case..
Birds fox dog felt like the fox feels his self misplaced either as the birds ( 2 loving partners) and as a loyal husband(dog)
For me these 5 sets of cards felt he will most likely chose another commitment
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 04:08
I did not see it as a yes or no at first..I think that a path does not always lead to the ring i felt in this case..
Birds fox dog felt like the fox feels his self misplaced either as the birds ( 2 loving partners) and as a loyal husband(dog)
For me these 5 sets of cards felt he will most likely chose another commitment
The question wasn't if he'd choose another or not, it was whether or not they'd be happy together if he chose her... the answer the cards give always answer the question. Going into anything more (especially on yes/no) questions is only counter productive.
For example, I do like that you put in his feeling misplaced and as a loyal husband, it gives a bit more depth to the answer and the challenges he's facing, but ultimately, somewhere in those cards there has to be a yes or a no. Will they or will they not be happy together? I think here, everything before the path is actually some meat to the story which you picked up on. The actual answer is separated by the path - a sort of 'hey, look here for your answer.' And the answer is the ring.
Just with the ring, I'd say yes, it will be a happy union (if they choose to pursue it). We're not trying to establish if they will pursue a relationship. We're taking as fact as they will pursue one to see if they'll be happy. There is a nuance there.
For all we know, she might just like him because he's torn over this. She doesn't want Joe Bloe who will easily jump relationships when it gets hard. She wants a man that will stay by her because he loves her.
the only other thing i can think of is the rider is your son, did you do anything that could have linked to the paths+ring
Could be, we go for walks each day anyways. But in my GTs I also have long rows of total nonsense. It seems the cards can be way off sometimes.
In general, in relation to your discussion here too, the cards should be read as close to the question as possible. I've noticed a number of times wide interpretations and straying from the question, seeing developments in the cards while forgeting what we've asked and this makes the reading highly irreliable to me. The cards tend to answer the question. If they are off, then they are way off and it's usually noticeable. It's challenging with future questions (as mine were in the thread) but... There's the risk.
MoiraKarin
28-02-2012, 04:36
The question wasn't if he'd choose another or not, it was whether or not they'd be happy together if he chose her... the answer the cards give always answer the question. Going into anything more (especially on yes/no) questions is only counter productive.
For example, I do like that you put in his feeling misplaced and as a loyal husband, it gives a bit more depth to the answer and the challenges he's facing, but ultimately, somewhere in those cards there has to be a yes or a no. Will they or will they not be happy together? I think here, everything before the path is actually some meat to the story which you picked up on. The actual answer is separated by the path - a sort of 'hey, look here for your answer.' And the answer is the ring.
Just with the ring, I'd say yes, it will be a happy union (if they choose to pursue it). We're not trying to establish if they will pursue a relationship. We're taking as fact as they will pursue one to see if they'll be happy. There is a nuance there.
For all we know, she might just like him because he's torn over this. She doesn't want Joe Bloe who will easily jump relationships when it gets hard. She wants a man that will stay by her because he loves her.
Yes i understand what you are saying... It makes very much sense. Thanks for the insight
I hope it is a yes as well...
I recalled another one from the Q&As, I think it was BrightEye's pull for "What will be the result of my job interview in NDK?", and it was a bright spread, a "yes" spread, but nothing. It's been month and a half since then and, frankly, I don't think it will bring a contract. :( I don't know why it happens. The cards were truly very, very positive. But nothing.
LE also did a spread for me about a year ago and while the first two cards were spot on and the third one (about a journey home) played as well, the rest of it has not happened yet. I wonder if it will as well. I wish so but I never know how long a spread may take to manifest. A year is not a short wait...
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 04:56
Ronia: Yeah, I remember the spread... at least mine seems to be progressing somewhere, if at all slowly. Sorry Ronia. :(
Moira: No problem. That's the whole reason I hate Y/N spreads in the first place. I'm tempted to read more into them than I should too. I think you have a very good intuition, so keep working at these.
Ronia: Yeah, I remember the spread... at least mine seems to be progressing somewhere, if at all slowly. Sorry Ronia. :(
Oh, but that's good news, LE! If yours is still progressing this gives me hope mine still has time to move on! :D All is well! :)
halil, I don't think there is any controversy caused, we're all trying to find out what didn't work and why. ;) Besides, taking the cards too seriously is not a good thing, in my humble opinion. I believe we are all wise enough to take it with a grain of salt and not rely too much on cards or anything else for that matter. I respect my cards, I respect my intuition, others' too, but I realize it's not like 100% guarantee. :)
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 05:44
You're right about the kind of man I want, but I don't like him just because he's conflicted. I liked him long before that. It's because he's conflicted that I walked away from the friendship once already. I didn't want to hurt anyone and it seemed like the right thing to do.
Ooops, yes, of course..! :D
The ring in this instance isn't a relationship. It's a yes to whether or not they would be happy together. :) go ahead and try to get an answer for her using the question you put forward and see if it comes up differently. You got me curious. :D
would they be happy together...i couldnt say yes, to me its a 'if they finally make the commitment...maybe', so its still an IF not a yes for me.
I see the ring as another maybe card, its neutral.
I think it boils down to if you think the cards always stick to your question...if so this would be a maybe, if you think its telling you something different i would suggest that there might not be a commitment made.
I also think in this thread we must becareful not to suggest we are saying a reader is wrong, this is an open discussion on how we view the readings as a learning excercise, not to make people doubt themselves...
I didn't mean to cause so much controversy. I actually did the spread for myself before posting it on here and my cards wouldn't answer the question. They basically said conversation was necessary, a man is confused, but something unexpected will occur. It didn't have anything to do with whether we'd be happy together.
Maybe it would help everyone if I elaborated. This is close to the decision he is facing. He has a long-term girlfriend, and although they haven't always had the best relationship, he's comfortable and doesn't want to hurt her. We've been best friends since we were kids, and always knew how the other felt, but neither of us realized how we felt about each other until recently. It's an issue we always avoided and just assumed we were friends and that's that. Things have changed. I ended our friendship because I didn't want to make him think he had to choose between us. He asked me to reconsider, and I received a very clear cosmic message that I shouldn't end our friendship and I had no choice in what would come (You'd probably love the bird story Red!) Now he's seriously considering things, and I know his decision could go either way. My hands are tied. We also currently live on opposite sides of the country, so those 3,000 miles are also an obstacle to overcome and contribute to some of the anxiety. There's a lot of uncertainty and a lot of talk. I wouldn't be surprised if Moira is right about the decision he makes.
When I read everyone's take on the spread, it makes sense because I know the whole situation. I don't know if the extra information changes anyone's interpretation.
its not controversy, its very interesting to play and see how the cards work for all of us.
I work on the cards being right, but perhaps our interpretation is not always spot on.
I would love to hear the bird story...lol:-)
with the new information, i personally doubt he will make the decision, if he does it will take too long and you will have moved on by then. i do wonder what the lesson here is for you?
i wish you luck with it, hope its a postive outcome for you
Oh, but that's good news, LE! If yours is still progressing this gives me hope mine still has time to move on! :D All is well! :)
halil, I don't think there is any controversy caused, we're all trying to find out what didn't work and why. ;) Besides, taking the cards too seriously is not a good thing, in my humble opinion. I believe we are all wise enough to take it with a grain of salt and not rely too much on cards or anything else for that matter. I respect my cards, I respect my intuition, others' too, but I realize it's not like 100% guarantee. :)
this is an interesting topic, often we see things and we expect they are going to happen straight away, i am having stuff happen that was in readings (from myself and others) from a year or so ago, and only now its unfolding, infact i unearthed a reading when i moved from 10 years ago and some of it is still unfolding. Even directly from spirit they can string you along for a bit, because noone really wants to hear a year when they want to hear NOW!
Also, why wouldnt you rely on your own readings? I have a couple of people i know personally that occasionally if i am stumped i go to them, its rare but it often confirms what i have been told, and yes you have to discern the information, but the medium/conduit i trust so therefore the message i trust. I dont understand why you wouldnt trust your own readings, whats the point of reading if you dont trust them? its not the cards i trust, its the source and the conduit, those things are what make me trust, and if i feel its right.
Sometimes the answer simply is ' your not meant to know' or 'thats not a priority right now' and we feel we need to interpret it to the persons question, or we want the answer to be soon so we see it in the cards sooner then it happens.
So timing and trust is very interesting
continuing from Halil's reading, this is from Mona18 on a different question (this is not about Mona18s reading just the discussion of the cards):
Q: Taking Red's advice: What should I do about my relationship with S?
Woman - House - Ring - Mice - Key
Cross
so now does this change the opinion of the reading before hand?
What advice does this hand out? does this colour the other reading in a more positive or negative light?
I personally wouldnt change my opinion totally on the other reading, i would say sit tight and let what is meant to happen, woman//key makes me think something will come to light and will reveal something big to her, she just needs to be and not do anything.
29-4-23-33=89=17 (stork), 8 (coffin)
changes end something, so it shows something will change which i think the key refers to, coffin there is an end or a transformation.
So do we feel this was a better question? what would the question you would pose?
discussion continues....
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 21:47
Also, why wouldnt you rely on your own readings? I have a couple of people i know personally that occasionally if i am stumped i go to them, its rare but it often confirms what i have been told, and yes you have to discern the information, but the medium/conduit i trust so therefore the message i trust. I dont understand why you wouldnt trust your own readings, whats the point of reading if you dont trust them? its not the cards i trust, its the source and the conduit, those things are what make me trust, and if i feel its right.
I think the answer to this is the fact that people doubt themselves, or like me, think that the interpretation should come from someone who is neutral. Not everyone can extricate themselves from their personal situation to properly and objectively read their own fortunes.
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 21:54
would they be happy together...i couldnt say yes, to me its a 'if they finally make the commitment...maybe', so its still an IF not a yes for me.
I see the ring as another maybe card, its neutral.
I think it boils down to if you think the cards always stick to your question...if so this would be a maybe, if you think its telling you something different i would suggest that there might not be a commitment made.
I also think in this thread we must becareful not to suggest we are saying a reader is wrong, this is an open discussion on how we view the readings as a learning excercise, not to make people doubt themselves...
True, normally the ring would be considered based on its placement and surrounding cards to see if it was a good or bad contract or agreement, etc... But in yes or no spread, we leave it to the ring's simplest meaning which is general a positive one in my mind. The ring symbolizes an agreement made in front of god or high power... It's a sacred promise, and it symbolizes the potential and the hopes that it will be respected. It's a very noble concept, I realize.
True, normally the ring would be considered based on its placement and surrounding cards to see if it was a good or bad contract or agreement, etc... But in yes or no spread, we leave it to the ring's simplest meaning which is general a positive one in my mind. The ring symbolizes an agreement made in front of god or high power... It's a sacred promise, and it symbolizes the potential and the hopes that it will be respected. It's a very noble concept, I realize.
am glad there are still some noble people in the world, thats what we like to see!!
lets try another one, i bodged up an order for something online, and i am now not sure if i will get the order or not, if the right one will be sent as i messed up the email address. I asked the outcome and got : flowers-sun-cross, now i am going to say this is a positive outcome because of the flowers +sun combo, but if this was a yes/no question would you say yes or no?
the cross at the end is a fly in the soup, if it was at the start it would feel nicer,but here it feels a bit cold, does it ruin the positivity of the first two?
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 22:14
am glad there are still some noble people in the world, thats what we like to see!!
lets try another one, i bodged up an order for something online, and i am now not sure if i will get the order or not, if the right one will be sent as i messed up the email address. I asked the outcome and got : flowers-sun-cross, now i am going to say this is a positive outcome because of the flowers +sun combo, but if this was a yes/no question would you say yes or no?
the cross at the end is a fly in the soup, if it was at the start it would feel nicer,but here it feels a bit cold, does it ruin the positivity of the first two?
Uugh.. Red... I hate Y/N spreads...! LOL
I think the cross is there to tell you to have faith, the other cards are firm yesses... But Ronia would get a chill down her spine with the cross. Personally, I don't see the cross as a no... But I'd base myself on your intuition here instead of mine. You're obviously having buyers remorse and worrying about the order... But it can be fixed, if there is an issue, so the cross might be speaking of a delay.
Uugh.. Red... I hate Y/N spreads...! LOL
I think the cross is there to tell you to have faith, the other cards are firm yesses... But Ronia would get a chill down her spine with the cross. Personally, I don't see the cross as a no... But I'd base myself on your intuition here instead of mine. You're obviously having buyers remorse and worrying about the order... But it can be fixed, if there is an issue, so the cross might be speaking of a delay.
i was curious and i was also freaking out that i had lost cash!! it wasnt a yes /no question it was a 'whats the outcome of this situation'. i like the cross, its a lovely card to me, but i know many hate it!!
lord_ewin
28-02-2012, 22:21
i was curious and i was also freaking out that i had lost cash!! it wasnt a yes /no question it was a 'whats the outcome of this situation'. i like the cross, its a lovely card to me, but i know many hate it!!
In that case, Red, the cards are telling a story. Bouquet was probably what piqued your interest, the sun was the ideas of how that thing would work for you, and the result is.. The cross. Whatever that means for you?
In that case, Red, the cards are telling a story. Bouquet was probably what piqued your interest, the sun was the ideas of how that thing would work for you, and the result is.. The cross. Whatever that means for you?
True, the cross is, have faith and were looking out for you (cross has the 2 crow/ravens on and i see them as messengers for the spirit realm).
I got two different people answering a question about a missed call i had from an unknown number that didnt leave a message, i had the same again today. this is unusual for me so i asked who it was:
child/Sw X + Book/ page of W + stork /WX
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Bear/emperor
This cool looking dude that scared you off before , real bad and is now doing this again.could it be someone with a motor cycle.. I think he just likes to stay unknown. I think his intention was to give you a hard time. I think her is an Arier.
fox - ship - whip - cross - child
I think it is related to the odd feelings you're getting. The whip and child refer to the jack of clubs and jack of spades respectively, so I'd say the caller was a man. The whip is at the center of the spread, so the jack of clubs most likely describes him best - dark hair, good-hearted, playful, perhaps an admirer.
fox + ship - work related travel
ship + whip - tiring trip, conflict in regards to a trip
whip + cross - conflict is a burden, sadness
cross + child - pains leading to a new start or in relation to a child
fox // child - new developments in relation to work, perhaps work with children
ship // cross - sentimental voyage, pilgrimage, a final journey
I think the person was calling you about some problems with a trip, perhaps a business trip. It looks like things might be trying for a bit, but with the child there, a new start is in store. The current trip might have to be completely scrapped, but things will work out.
now when it happened today i pulled child/cross/book, in tarot i pulled 9 of swords/king of swords/star so looking back at the past readings we have two repeaters, so am adding it here asking to se eif there are more clues to who this person is. all draws have the child in which is interesting, the cross pops up here, and the book again. 10 of swords is also like the 9 of swords.
now this call was on my home phone not my work phone, and i dont have any work trips planned so i dont think the fox relates to work and not many people have my home phone.
anyone have any ideas?
Could it be a telemarketer who will keep calling until you finally answer?
knowing my luck it is, i think i am having a jumpy day today, everything is freaking me out..he he he
I'll pm you the story.
Here's a new twist based on last night - what if she's the one who makes the decision to leave? It's a possibility. This could go along with the spread Mona did - sit tight as events unfold.
Maybe the whole problem has been with the question. I just asked if we'd be happy together. I didn't specify if we were in a relationship. The cards could just be picky enough that I even should have specified a love/romantic relationship.
Honestly, are we happy together right now? Yes and no. Our friendship makes us happy, but we aren't happy just being friends. We both feel trapped. I think Moira's spread reflects that.
i look forward to hearing it!
I do think there is nothing you can do, and that could change the outcome, but for now i think its simply saying to sit tight and focus on other things whilst its being sorted, you asked for what action you should do, the spread said nothing, literally just let it be and all will be revealed.
there is something to play out, but if that results in you being in a happy commited relationship i am still not convinced that it is that. i also dont think Mona's spread tells you that there will be a relationship, only that things will change in a big way. i am not sure second guessing will help, whatever happens has an impact on you, and looks like a big impact, but you have to watch it unfold rather then know the outcome.
if she leaves then its easier to become commited if thats what he wants, then you can discuss logistics. i just think your not meant to know the outcome because it might change your behaviour.
I think you're right that I'm not meant to know the outcome. I have been focusing on sitting tight and not getting involved in anything. I know that whatever happens, I'm not a part of it.
i think it impacts you, but you cant change things so let it ride out, am sure it will be for the best!!
MoiraKarin
29-02-2012, 03:10
this is an interesting topic, often we see things and we expect they are going to happen straight away, i am having stuff happen that was in readings (from myself and others) from a year or so ago, and only now its unfolding, infact i unearthed a reading when i moved from 10 years ago and some of it is still unfolding. Even directly from spirit they can string you along for a bit, because noone really wants to hear a year when they want to hear NOW!
Also, why wouldnt you rely on your own readings? I have a couple of people i know personally that occasionally if i am stumped i go to them, its rare but it often confirms what i have been told, and yes you have to discern the information, but the medium/conduit i trust so therefore the message i trust. I dont understand why you wouldnt trust your own readings, whats the point of reading if you dont trust them? its not the cards i trust, its the source and the conduit, those things are what make me trust, and if i feel its right.
Sometimes the answer simply is ' your not meant to know' or 'thats not a priority right now' and we feel we need to interpret it to the persons question, or we want the answer to be soon so we see it in the cards sooner then it happens.
So timing and trust is very interesting
Relying on your readings is like relying on your self . it's a process some need to learn or develop...My experience if a reading 'fails' it's rarely because of the cards did not come out ok, but it has , almost all the time, a lot to do how i feel. Emotionally fysically,spiritually etc.
Relying on your readings is like relying on your self . it's a process some need to learn or develop...My experience if a reading 'fails' it's rarely because of the cards did not come out ok, but it has , almost all the time, a lot to do how i feel. Emotionally fysically,spiritually etc.
yep i agree, its the same with love , start with yourself and you will naturally love others:-) we are part of our toolkit, so you have to keep yourself clear and pure to read for others
You're way ahead and I don't have the time to catch up but here's my two cents. First, I don't doubt my intuition but I influence my cards and that has been proven a number of times. I can pull out what I expect. For better or worse. It's happened and I know it. Second, a huge part of a reading is what the cards "know" the reader will see in them. Like with the Cross here - my cards know I'll see it as a burden and a difficulty, at least, and they will always show it this way. The cards follow the reader and that's why it's tricky to both don't have and to have another's opinion. Because in a reading for myself I may influence the cards but on the other hand, another reader will not see in my cards what they know I will see, if you get my point. As about Mona's reading for halil, I don't see anything different - the House is a calm and careful card and the whole spread says again to not rush into a commitment because there is more to come to light until all worries are resolved. :)
ok ... I am sooo freakin' late on this thread ... but whatever :)
lillies ship clouds
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clover
BG considers is it to be a good think to create some distance for this moments because of whatever emotions of disturbance she currently has for you( this ship sails towards dark clouds).
There was a power struggle between the 2 of us (Lily). Things have been very turbulent at the office lately, that there really isn't time to stop and smell the roses (Ship - Clouds). She broke today, and cried. Told me she felt I spoke down to her, which was never my intention at all. I feel awful that I made her feel this way, but everything has been so crazy from the day that I started that I never realized I was being this way towards her. My personality is not the smallest, and people do feel my presence. Some can take me and love me for who/how I am but some can't. She happens to be the latter.
I wish this reading would have been a bit more detailed as far as feeling perception in order for me to give better FB, but the cards I believe were great for what it was then. Things have cleared up (Clouds) and hopefully this was just a small bump in the sea (Clover). :)
MoiraKarin
29-02-2012, 17:30
ok ... I am sooo freakin' late on this thread ... but whatever :)
There was a power struggle between the 2 of us (Lily). Things have been very turbulent at the office lately, that there really isn't time to stop and smell the roses (Ship - Clouds). She broke today, and cried. Told me she felt I spoke down to her, which was never my intention at all. I feel awful that I made her feel this way, but everything has been so crazy from the day that I started that I never realized I was being this way towards her. My personality is not the smallest, and people do feel my presence. Some can take me and love me for who/how I am but some can't. She happens to be the latter.
I wish this reading would have been a bit more detailed as far as feeling perception in order for me to give better FB, but the cards I believe were great for what it was then. Things have cleared up (Clouds) and hopefully this was just a small bump in the sea (Clover). :)
It should be your responsability to ask for more details. Just ask next time:)
It should be your responsability to ask for more details. Just ask next time:)
but also i think the random thread is meant to be only a couple of sentences i think, therefore its not a full reading, its more a sound bite
MoiraKarin
29-02-2012, 19:02
I sometimes throw in a extra question if i prefere more insight..
1 step at a time... Yes i thought this was the intention...Sometimes we get more then we ask at just 1 question, then this is the bonus ;)
I sometimes throw in a extra question if i prefere more insight..
1 step at a time... Yes i thought this was the intention...Sometimes we get more then we ask at just 1 question, then this is the bonus ;)
yes i agree, i think at the moment the lines are blurred
MoiraKarin
19-03-2012, 23:58
I wanted to provide an update since there was a lot of discussion about one of the reading's Moira did for me. The question was whether S and I would be happy together, and Moira's reading is as follows:
I think the scythe referred to how quickly things would happen. He hasn't decided to chose another path. I'm the path he has chosen. We've spent the past couple of weeks together and have been quite happy (this also confirms a reading Moira did on when we would meet up again).
I think the birds were about a lot of discussions we had about things, and the fox about the work involved and planning into how we would make things work between us. The dog, of course refers to us being best friends since childhood. I think dog - path - ring refers to friends deciding to enter into a relationship. Whether the ring ultimately symbolizes marriage, it's too early to tell, but it has been discussed. We're committed to each other, but are taking things very slowly.
Things really seem to be tying into the 2012 love GT I posted. Ronia said I would move for love, and I might be moving to a different state towards the end of the year. He also seems to perfectly fit the description of the man in Mona's interpretation of that GT. He's someone I knew, but never saw coming. In hindsight it makes perfect sense. I've also had a lot of shady propositions this past weekend - a man who would really like to be like Hugh Hefner, except without the money - ewww!
I am so glad it worked out so well, eventually. Thanks for keeping me posted as well :heart:
I asked in the last Q&As thread:
will I go to watch the volleyball olympic qualifications in city S. in May?
Moira said:
man tree ring: Ugh Depending on the health situation of a male person..
Depending on how strong you can link this man to go along with you?
My reply:
I'd say your cards point at a contract, they are all positive so that's good news.
And yes, I'm going to watch the volleyball tournament in city S. in the beginning of next month.
I'm giving this example not only to give feedback but also to emphasize that when we ask a yes/no question in most cases (from my experience) the cards answer this - yes or no, simple. With three positive cards out of three there is really no chance for the answer to depend on anything and I think it's important to stay as close to the question asked as possible. :)
Man, being my friend, is coming with me as well, my son too, Ring is signifying our tickets which are a contract, Tree is cementing the situation. But this is a stretch. All I read in such cases is: are there negative cards or no? If no, then the answer is simply "yes". And it is. :D
I asked in the last Q&As thread:
Moira said:
My reply:
And yes, I'm going to watch the volleyball tournament in city S. in the beginning of next month.
I'm giving this example not only to give feedback but also to emphasize that when we ask a yes/no question in most cases (from my experience) the cards answer this - yes or no, simple. With three positive cards out of three there is really no chance for the answer to depend on anything and I think it's important to stay as close to the question asked as possible. :)
Man, being my friend, is coming with me as well, my son too, Ring is signifying our tickets which are a contract, Tree is cementing the situation. But this is a stretch. All I read in such cases is: are there negative cards or no? If no, then the answer is simply "yes". And it is. :D
the thing is , since you havent gone yet you dont know if she is right, because it might be that you have the tickets but something happens at the last minute.
So it could be a simple yes, but i think the cards can give you more information.
anyways i hope you get to go, and enjoy yourself!
MoiraKarin
24-04-2012, 00:10
i often got an answer which was differen then the Q i asked though always makes sense.
With Yes or No i usually get something that indicate a yes or a No for me but never see it this way. Like in love , there is a free will in here.
As far as i believe, nothing is as unreliable as us humans, as to what our focus is on.
I do not really believe in real Yes or No,' but see them as "most likely".
I don't believe in definite karma , for this would mean we are all puppits on a string:)
I am glad you can go, nevertheless...:D Good on you all!!
The thing is that I-am-going. :D Take it or leave it. :D
Its feeling at the moment threads like these which are well meaning seem to be used to bash someones reading. its a discussion thread and a thread to give feedback too, at the moment it feels like its a stick to beat eachother with.
So perhaps when we leave feedback or have a discussion we think about others feelings, and we wait till the event has happened to say what actually happened. we also have to respect the reader as they are their cards, and whats positive to you might not be positve to me, and therefore we need to leave it open for a reader to...read their own cards.
I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about but I'm starting to prefer to not give feedback actually. It will save me lots of time. :) And all will be well. And noone will know when they were right and when they were wrong, me included. Nice and quiet.
Its feeling at the moment threads like these which are well meaning seem to be used to bash someones reading. its a discussion thread and a thread to give feedback too, at the moment it feels like its a stick to beat eachother with.
So perhaps when we leave feedback or have a discussion we think about others feelings, and we wait till the event has happened to say what actually happened. we also have to respect the reader as they are their cards, and whats positive to you might not be positve to me, and therefore we need to leave it open for a reader to...read their own cards.
I second this notion.
I asked in the last Q&As thread:
will I go to watch the volleyball olympic qualifications in city S. in May?
Moira said:
man tree ring: Ugh Depending on the health situation of a male person..
Depending on how strong you can link this man to go along with you?
My reply:
I'd say your cards point at a contract, they are all positive so that's good news.
And yes, I'm going to watch the volleyball tournament in city S. in the beginning of next month.
I'm giving this example not only to give feedback but also to emphasize that when we ask a yes/no question in most cases (from my experience) the cards answer this - yes or no, simple. With three positive cards out of three there is really no chance for the answer to depend on anything and I think it's important to stay as close to the question asked as possible. :)
Man, being my friend, is coming with me as well, my son too, Ring is signifying our tickets which are a contract, Tree is cementing the situation. But this is a stretch. All I read in such cases is: are there negative cards or no? If no, then the answer is simply "yes". And it is. :D
Ronia, did I read in another thread that a male friend is not feeling well? It's not this guy, is it?
No, no, the sick guy is one I'm eyeing and he's to play at this tournament. The friend I'm going with is fine, thank God! :) he got invitations for us, so I could save the money for tickets. Very nice, I'm so happy! :D
I'm truly disappointed to say that these:
child/flowers/cross
I would have to yes (child and Flowers), but it might not be the way you want it to be, something that makes it not as cut and dry as you like.
So it might be you want a one on one and it turns into a group meeting, something about the pull (pulled 3 times and got same mixed result)
makes me think its a 'yes, but...' answer
The cards are:
Bear - Lily - Key
And my interpretation was: yes, you will meet him. And this meeting is correlated with some official documents or work.
didn't play out... :( My question was:
Will I meet M. by the end of this month?
I can see why Red and Moira said "yes", I don't know why it didn't happen but it makes me think again the Cross stops stuff. It literally "crosses" it. :(
I'm truly disappointed to say that these:
didn't play out... :( My question was:
I can see why Red and Moira said "yes", I don't know why it didn't happen but it makes me think again the Cross stops stuff. It literally "crosses" it. :(
The Cross fades everything to its left out, doesn't it?
It does, indeed. But this time, because I wasn't the one drawing the cards and Red reads in a different way, I thought it may play out. However, in Moira's draw the Key should usually say "yes" but it didn'd either. In my draws the Cross was preceding the Garden and in my mind this is fated. Either something has gone wrong in general or I don't know how to read these.
I'm truly disappointed to say that these:
didn't play out... :( My question was:
I can see why Red and Moira said "yes", I don't know why it didn't happen but it makes me think again the Cross stops stuff. It literally "crosses" it. :(
This is interesting, because on the draw I wasn't convinced it was a yes, I pulled a number of times and in the end decided to use your method of 2 positives make a yes. I pulled a few draws and I didn't feel it, but thought I was being pessimistic and tried another way.
I think I made the mistake of trying to read my cards in a way that doesn't work for me, and I also made the mistake of writing something I wasn't entirely convinced of, wa a bad draw on my part, so am sorry?
Am glad you pointed it our ronia, I might have tried the same thing again which wouldn't have worked.
MoiraKarin
01-05-2012, 06:41
It does, indeed. But this time, because I wasn't the one drawing the cards and Red reads in a different way, I thought it may play out. However, in Moira's draw the Key should usually say "yes" but it didn'd either. In my draws the Cross was preceding the Garden and in my mind this is fated. Either something has gone wrong in general or I don't know how to read these.
For the record, Ronia ..It was Daphne draw, not mine...;)
Ugh, sorry Moira! I didn't have time to go back and check! Buts till, I thought it was a "yes" too... :(
Red, I just think this Cross puts a full stop... Ugh.
lord_ewin
01-05-2012, 22:05
It does, indeed. But this time, because I wasn't the one drawing the cards and Red reads in a different way, I thought it may play out. However, in Moira's draw the Key should usually say "yes" but it didn'd either. In my draws the Cross was preceding the Garden and in my mind this is fated. Either something has gone wrong in general or I don't know how to read these.
I keep saying that the key isn't a guarantee of success... And yes, cross generally means disappointment. Sorry Ronia! :(
I say the Key unlocks and locks and it may depend on the surrounding cards (here it depends on the reader though because in my draws a yes/no question with the Key showing is always a "yes", always). But in this draw there are no negative cards around, are there???
Bear-Lily-Key
These are cards of strength, stability, being liked, even favoritized, passion, and finally - the Key. I wouldn't have guessed a "no" from these. Would you and why?
Cross at the end - yes, disappointing. But in my LOve GT Cross was preceding the Garden and the Clover was there and this basically means a fated strike of luck. I can't help but think something has changed meanwhile and everyone read correctly but I may have turned to the right instead of the left, you know.
DownUnderNZer
01-05-2012, 22:39
This is how I would see these layouts. But for the record, I would still go with the original readers, as that is how they saw the cards to mean and we all have our own ways of interpreting them.
Child Flower Cross
I would say that this is about moments of happiness...short lived...and some kind of disappointment as a result.
So, maybe the anticipation was YOU looking forward to meeting that person, but it didnt pan out which is what I think you are saying. So, I would say you are wondering why even???. Like something is amiss and you are looking for answers.
I would say it looked like ALL GO, but then it changed for whatever reason.
So, her YES is right...just maybe the twist is not there.
Bear-Lily-Key
This I would say is a YES because of the KEY CARD too. However, this may not be in the time frame that you would want it to happen with the LILY there.
Either this person likes to be in control and is the "man" as well as is knowledgeable and has lived life, so knows what he wants. Possibly he is older too or just very in tune. As for meeting up...this may take some time...and would be entirely when he is ready. He likes to be in charge, kind of like the EMPEROR in the TAROT, and is quite strong minded.
So, I would say there is still a chance, but it is in his court really.
Again I do agree with the YES.
****As stated before I would go with the other readers interpretations on this, as we all have different ways of looking at the cards, and I do see why they would get YES as an answer******
****Yes and No questions are not always easy to answer either and I would have chosen a KEY card for this, such as the MAN, to see what cards turned up around him. Some answers need key cards with flanking cards to show the story. Sometimes one or two cards isnt quite enough.
I am just giving my insight as if I chose the cards and was reading it for a sitter.
MoiraKarin
01-05-2012, 22:40
I say the Key unlocks and locks and it may depend on the surrounding cards (here it depends on the reader though because in my draws a yes/no question with the Key showing is always a "yes", always). But in this draw there are no negative cards around, are there???
Bear-Lily-Key
These are cards of strength, stability, being liked, even favoritized, passion, and finally - the Key. I wouldn't have guessed a "no" from these. Would you and why?
Cross at the end - yes, disappointing. But in my LOve GT Cross was preceding the Garden and the Clover was there and this basically means a fated strike of luck. I can't help but think something has changed meanwhile and everyone read correctly but I may have turned to the right instead of the left, you know.
Maybe you expect a 'yes' or ' No' but i have felt also conditions to seep through.
Maybe here it dependeds on his strength to pull the date through.. He might be scared or lack confidence to pull through this date with you.
Sometimes i really feel strong 'yes' or ' 'no's' but definitely not always.
Like i said it would mean that all is energy is stagnant. Here we have someones free will to, step in, which make situation never reliable. We make decisions and choices all the time.
Some make determined decisions other vain , or are hesitant insecure individuals it depends on the person or situation
Just my 2 cents :)
lord_ewin
01-05-2012, 23:02
I'll never preach that key is a yes. It has never meant yes, and has always equated with complications whenever it has come up for me. It's the "Atchung!" card, "this may spoil" label.
It is not a success or yes card, at least never has been for me.
To answer your question Ronia: Bear - Lily - Key... key isn't a good card, it gave the whole reading an air of complication. High hopes, and failure to launch. But that's me. And for you, the cross has ALWAYS negated your reading. Damn cross. :) I remember a reading a few years ago! :S
Intersting discussion, guys! That's why I posted the feedback, so we can investigate.
DownUnderNZer , I really like your interp of the second spread. Yes, I can see where you're coming from. The man is not older but he may very well be willing to feel in charge, I don't know. And you're right the Lily may delay things a bit. I'll certainly keep everyone posted because to me this spread is also a "yes".
Moira, it wasn't about a date, just a question if we would meet based on something that was in my love GT. You're absolutely right we can and often do change the outcome. But for the purpose of learning, I thought we could investigate how the cards play or why they don't play out. :)
LE, yeah, the Cross is definitely my cross. LOL
I'm very curious, I'll wait and see what's going to happen. Hm.
lord_ewin
01-05-2012, 23:12
I'd be curious to see if there is a delay, but generally with the key, I tell people to take action and not wait for things to happen. Make it happen yourself. :)
Um... I don't think this is an option here. I mean, I'll create opportunities to meet (as much as I can and it's not much) but I'm not into tossing him in the hay, as you once advised me regarding another man. :D
I was always told the Key 'says yes' to the cards around it. Rather than a 'yes'. So Key + Coffin is a certain illness or ending, normally rather serious because of the Key. So it locks and unlocks.
If I saw Bear + Lilies + Key, alone, I would have thought about a strong woman, probably a mother or grandmother, looking for an answer.
If I see the Cross or Key as a final card, I always tend to add another after.
I make a difference between a GT or a 9-card spread and a yes/no question. I've always known in yes/no questions the Key is the Lenormand "yes". Just like the Ace of Swords in Tarot is the Tarot "yes" in yes/no questions. But they have more meanings in bigger spreads and in different questions. Because the question here was yes/no, I took the key as a "yes". I think only time will tell. And Bear-Lily is more of an older man to me, I don't really see myself as either of those. I have a friend who is much older and who is my connection to M., may be the cards referred to him as the one who will play a role.
It's interesting Ronia, as I would have said 'yes' too - in context - as there are no 'no' cards. Like you if I saw the key and no bad cards, I'd say yes. Cross or Coffin a no.
I have found these cards interesting actually.
I found those interesting too because they are a good case study. I missed the timing here. Because I asked "till the end of April" I ignored any possible delay, as DownUnderNZer rightly pointed. I will attend an event with this older Bear/Lily friend next week where M. will be too (if nothing changes), it'll be interesting to see if the Key will bring a "yes" even after a delay or not.
I say the Key unlocks and locks and it may depend on the surrounding cards (here it depends on the reader though because in my draws a yes/no question with the Key showing is always a "yes", always). But in this draw there are no negative cards around, are there???
Bear-Lily-Key
These are cards of strength, stability, being liked, even favoritized, passion, and finally - the Key. I wouldn't have guessed a "no" from these. Would you and why?
Cross at the end - yes, disappointing. But in my LOve GT Cross was preceding the Garden and the Clover was there and this basically means a fated strike of luck. I can't help but think something has changed meanwhile and everyone read correctly but I may have turned to the right instead of the left, you know.
I don't think I gave you the correct answer and therefore to me it was staring me int he face as a no, I don't believe things change after the event of the read because I think that the cards would indicate the end result regardless of what changes.I also noted that it wasn't a great yes, it was a 'yes, but...'
This is why I don't agree with naming cards good or bad, some are good for the situation did some are not. I will definately be sticking to my way of reading from now on
Gonna try 3 cards and focus on your question for this one...
Mountain Whip Fish
I think the blocks are up for now and definite tension and anger/resentment. I dont feel B appreciated what was said or expected it even. Might of been a surprise! Either you are both going to do things independently for a little while and/or at some point you will see each other again... like hanging out. (The FISH is a tricky one). I dont really see an ending here which is GREAT, but the first two cards are negative and show a hurdle to get over with the MOUNTAIN. If you are lucky...it will be quickly over and done with...and that could happen with the WHIP! :) (Fingers crossed).
PS No emotional cards here really either or romance like HEART or MOON.
Down,
I just wanted to let you know that there was what felt like a mountain between us, but it didn't last very long ... I have a date with him on Saturday.
He is not the R guy, btw ... I'm sure someone's gonna ask! LOL ... new guy. :)
Down,
I just wanted to let you know that there was what felt like a mountain between us, but it didn't last very long ... I have a date with him on Saturday.
He is not the R guy, btw ... I'm sure someone's gonna ask! LOL ... new guy. :)
Wow I miss all the fun! Congrats mona, you deserve some romance xx
Wow I miss all the fun! Congrats mona, you deserve some romance xx
So far it's intense ... nothing physical ... yet ;)
So far it's intense ... nothing physical ... yet ;)
Well go you, and have a fun time, all you hard work on yourself is paying off, and even if this isn't the one(not saying it isn't), you are moving closer to it xx
DownUnderNZer
04-05-2012, 20:03
Down,
I just wanted to let you know that there was what felt like a mountain between us, but it didn't last very long ... I have a date with him on Saturday.
He is not the R guy, btw ... I'm sure someone's gonna ask! LOL ... new guy. :)
Cool Mona18!!!. You can just call me DND for short if you want. I feel like I am a quilt when called Down. :D. Lol lol lol...
Anyways, been thinking about FISH and it can, to me, also mean platonic, free spirited, and single and available. So, maybe you are both single and available to be in relationships or both free spirited...or even both! :) Just an afterthought...
The Fish can be sudden intense feelings - deep is a keywood in most traditions. Sometimes this can be like an addiction, in their more negative situations but other wise is deep/rich feelings with a powerful pull.
We came back from the games, so I can confirm what I already said before - I went to watch the games. In my mind, three positive cards give a "yes" in yes/no questions. As about further interpretation - no, there was no man to depend on or health or anything else. We had our tickets long time ago and just went to watch. No one has been sick or similar.
I wanted to give you some more feedback on a very shocking development. :(
What will make me happy during the volleyball championship in May? (very very important championship!)
coffin - crossroad - man
A final decision by a man.
Oh wow! What decision? What will he decide?
letter-bear-ring
The bear can indicate physical activities and athletes, so it probably represents that the decision involves the championship.
There will be news about a contract that affects the championship?
Is M the man at the volleyball tournament?
house - coffin - scythe
No, so beware of the referee
This didn't make me happy at all - our head coach was fired against all wishes of the fans and players and this was a huge disaster and we are all still shocked and just two months before the Olympics. In this case, the cards once again actually chose to tell me something I MUST know but they didn't answer the question because it naturally didn't make me happy!
Ok, I'll risk it: will I get a job contract related to this volleyball competition or our national team? It looks to me with this Bear I may end up working something there...
coffin - fish - heart
Even with the coffin there, I'm inclined to say yes because it's an end of your current situation and bringing you work that you enjoy.
I didn't get a job here although I thought there may be an opportunity. :(
Sorry to hear things didn't work out. Hopefully, there will be a turnaround. Perhaps with the Olympics, a company will need extra PR help. Good luck!
Thanks. They have 3 weeks to fix it all. We'll see. But I hoped for something good for myself, so... I guess I'll keep hoping.