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when you do a GT , how do you look at cards in their own house, so stork in house 17? do you place any importance in it, or do you ignore it!
I personally read it as greater energy in that card, that card is important.
thought i would open it for discussion
LaLaBella
07-03-2012, 01:28
This is a good question. Both 23 & 33 are in their respective houses on the GT I pulled for this week.
This is a good question. Both 23 & 33 are in their respective houses on the GT I pulled for this week.
to me that would say there is something big that will be revealed this month! if its surounded by good cards its going to be a positive outcome
lord_ewin
07-03-2012, 04:26
I haven't honestly thought much on it... I generally think you're right, that it becomes that much more important... But how would you deal with a Libra ascending Libra? Scorpio, scorpio?
Yes, a card in its own house would mean to me the card will play out purely - meaning, there will be no side influence, its power will be pure and clear of else.
LE, are you calling me? How can I help you? :D
lord_ewin
07-03-2012, 06:05
Yes, a card in its own house would mean to me the card will play out purely - meaning, there will be no side influence, its power will be pure and clear of else.
LE, are you calling me? How can I help you? :D
LOL - which one are you now? :D
But honestly, I think you have it more in line on how I would see it. Or, 'what you see is what you get,' as they'd say in Astrology circles when the ascending sign is the same as the sun sign. Least, that's what I heard. ;)
The Scorpio answering your call. :D
I've wondered about cards being in their own houses too. It's something I've never seen anyone address. I usually do take it to add extra weight to a cards meaning, but it can also add extra layers to the card/house. For example, the rider. It can mean anything from good news to a young man. So the rider in the house of the rider - is it really significant news? News from a young man? News that's coming super fast? It's something that may not be clear at all until the event takes place.
i can see the rider in its own house as double layered, it came up for an older guy who came on to this women fast and seemed okay at first glance but he also came in and out of the persons life and was inconsistant, also it was the theme of her reading as she thought he might be the one...so i saw it in multiple ways
I haven't honestly thought much on it... I generally think you're right, that it becomes that much more important... But how would you deal with a Libra ascending Libra? Scorpio, scorpio?
very interesting...its a bit like neptune in its own sign as it is now...
i can see it as a double dose of it, it would be a stronger link, in the same way if you have alot of one sign in your charts, but also i would expect it to be supported by the rest of the GT
LaLaBella
07-03-2012, 21:21
to me that would say there is something big that will be revealed this month! if its surounded by good cards its going to be a positive outcome
Good Morning Red!
I have to admit that 23 being in 23 threw me. Okay, I actually swore. But I am trying to put it all together in a logical manner. We'll see.
Thanks.
Good Morning Red!
I have to admit that 23 being in 23 threw me. Okay, I actually swore. But I am trying to put it all together in a logical manner. We'll see.
Thanks.
also the numbers are reversed each other, so if you looked up 2, 3 , 5 in numerology it might give you additional clues
lord_ewin
07-03-2012, 23:00
The Scorpio answering your call. :D
Ronia's being silly..! Me likes. ;)
Ronia's being silly..! Me likes. ;)
silly is good!!
September = Coffin in house of Coffin
My grandmother passed away
October = Stars in house of Stars
A new chapter of my life began
November = Man in house of Man. Scythe on top of him
I suddenly broke up with a very important friend of mine
December = Anchor in house of Anchor
I got a job
January= Ring in house of Ring
A really important relationship developed.
February = Roads in house of Roads
I found myself torn between choices, and a separation happened.
So yes, every time the card falls in its own house, I find it important. Surrounding cards tell what happens, but usually its that area of your life is enhanced e.g Anchor=work, Ring=relationship, Man=something important about this man happens etc.
Fabulous Alyna, thanks for giving us a great real life example of the importance that can be assigned to the ones in the same house.
thanks for sharing!
Edit:
i went through past GTs and found a very similar thing to alyna
June 2011: paths- made a big, life change decision to change direction
sept-nov- ring- made a important commitment (heart was next to it)
December -tree- spiritual change
i cast one for a particular subject and child, moon, man all are in their own house, going to be interesting to see that pan out
Silly, silly meeee, oh la laaaa... :D
alyna, yes, that's what I was refering to. It's a powerful card, the one that falls in her own house and it's ephasized.
August - Bear, Moon = I had a very emotionally tough time in August, to the point of exhaustion.
November - Road = This is when I was forced to split with the company I was with ... I 'hit' the Road.
Winter - Fox = I am still unsure about the meaning of the Fox ... Over the winter months, I was really focused on work. I've been either looking for one or getting one and proving myself day by day, I really don't see a bad side of the Fox here this Winter.
So yea, I've always thought it gave the card an extra bump ... :)
August - Bear, Moon = I had a very emotionally tough time in August, to the point of exhaustion.
November - Road = This is when I was forced to split with the company I was with ... I 'hit' the Road.
Winter - Fox = I am still unsure about the meaning of the Fox ... Over the winter months, I was really focused on work. I've been either looking for one or getting one and proving myself day by day, I really don't see a bad side of the Fox here this Winter.
So yea, I've always thought it gave the card an extra bump ... :)
do you have the mystical? the fox in the mystical deck i now see completely differently, i love it!
Well, Fox is work, everyday work. Not the career but the work. In many decks it's pictured either as a family head or as a hunter but in all cases she's a provider. Therefore, it played its primary role in Mona's threads. It also shows as "provider" in my spreads too as I'm the family head as well.
Well, Fox is work, everyday work. Not the career but the work. In many decks it's pictured either as a family head or as a hunter but in all cases she's a provider. Therefore, it played its primary role in Mona's threads. It also shows as "provider" in my spreads too as I'm the family head as well.
i personally cant see this in my fox card, i can see it in the traditional decks, but in mine its a different slant, and the symbology is very rich. i see it more as looking inwards, looking at your own reflection, as the fox is drinking from the water , so he is connecting with his soul as the water can symbolise.
it also can show that you need to dig for information a bit deeper (and usually the information is within you) , where its pointing shows you where to start looking
I'm not into the Mystical, honestly, so I keep close to the traditional decks.
In my spreads, which I reviewed now to figure out how the Fox plays most often, it basically remains a lie at least 50% of the time. However, it's always what I call "a business lie" meaning that the Fox lies with a purpose to get/deliver something and often the delivery goes to those close to her. Somehow it has united the lying (a basically negative thing) with providing for close/loved ones (basically a positive thing). While the Snake most often plays out as a lie or intrigue in the personal interest of the lier. Interesting observation, I hadn't had such a close look at it before. :)
Thanks y'all!!!
I use the Postmark. The Fox seems to be walking towards the reader with her head tilted to the left. So, she's looking for something but I dont see the "tricky" side of it.
Thanks! That really helped cOnnect with the card!!
lord_ewin
08-03-2012, 21:43
In the carta mundi, the fox is surrounded by pups, and has brought back a goose from what might be a local farm stead. Sure, it could be wild, but the possibility of a stolen duck or hen is usually the symbolic of crossing the line for the greater good (feeding the pups). Some get 9-5 jobs they don't like to make ends meet, some resort to prostitution... Some become thieves...
I rather like Red's take on the soul searching, internal dialogue. I think that's a reminder of why we do things and occasionally do cross the line. The world around us might not understand that the theft described above was necessary, but the fox thinks it was a fair trade. If however the fox had gone to simply kill the duck for no reason, then the karma involved would be different. It's a reminder that you pay for any transgressions... Whether you can live with yourself in the mirror is the price.
Ronia: I love the comparison between the fox and the snake you made. It describes it quite well I think.
i really interesting discussion!
It kind of became clearer today. Only after I looked back at the past spreads though.
halil, this is true about most of the cards, isn't it? I keep finding new and new nuances and I think that's where the "language" between the reader and the cards becomes of vital importance. Because from one point on the cards should (ideally) speak the language they know their reader will understand. Otherwise, a GT would be an impossible task with all the available meanings and combos. Imagine!
OMG! Thanks for all this fantastic info!
One thing to add to this thread about cards in their own houses...
...when 2 cards appear in each other's respective house.
For example, the coffin appears in the house of the ship and the ship in the house of the coffin.
It's probably obvious, but just like when a card appears in its own house (e.g., ring in house of ring), the cards are indicating something significant by giving you the same message twice, thus adding more weight to it.
In the example above, a move or travel is really coming to an end.
yes to me its the same thing, its a double whammy, it re-inforces each other. i have found in my last few GTs that this works for me. i also find this double the informaton you can find out about it as you can look at the surrounding cards