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catti
16-09-2003, 08:04
I have been asked to do two year spreads for a virgo and a libra. i would like to be able to join the months to the houses and have an introductory knowlege to astrology
but
after lurking here for a week i feel like i know just enough about astrology to know that i know nothing!
i usually just dive into things....i dont know...already i feel over my head
any tips or suggestions appreciated

Moongold
16-09-2003, 08:37
Catti, there are a number of Horoscope spreads in books and on the internet. There are two really good ones in Konraad's Classic Spreads.

If you don't have the books, you should easily be able to find one on the internet. I have to go to work now but will see whether you have found one this evening.

isthmus nekoi
16-09-2003, 08:45
Not sure if this is what you're asking for, but virgo covers the 6th house, and libra the 7th. If you are interested in resources, pls check out the resource sticky in this forum which includes books and websites.

catti
16-09-2003, 11:48
Thanks for the heads up about the sticky! I should have read that first...I suppose what i really should do is make the spread cloth ( because i want too ) , do the reading and post in the your reading section to get feed back. I am out of my league here , until i put in a couple of hundred hours reading all those links ;)

Minderwiz
16-09-2003, 18:59
A lot depends on what the object of your reading is - horoscope or astrological spreads are good for things like the year ahead - each card in the circle representing a month (possibly starting with this year's birthday) - they are also particularly good for a reading based on the areas of life covered by the houses - so the card for the 'seventh' gives an indication of partnerships and marriage. This does require you to have a working knowledge of the houses and the way that they are most frequently used - for example in practice the eighth house is read as the resources (money) of the marriage rather than as the house of death or the house dealing with sexuality. This is because its the second house from the seventh. The second house deals with material resources, and by extension the second house from any other house can be looked on as dealing with resources.

Whilst it is not essential at all for a 'house' reading, you might find that knowing the Ascendant of your querent gives a better result than basing it on the Sun sign. However if this isn't available then I would actually do a horoscope reading treating the Sun sign as the first house - so both Virgo and Libra would be read in the same way, though you might use a little knowledge of the signs to think about the different ways in which they would react in each area. So for example your Libra subject has Scorpio on the second House of material resources and would deal with these in a far more intense and secretive way than your Virgo subject who has Libra on the second.

If neither of these approaches is what you are looking for then you might consider a 'standard' spread instead.

catti
16-09-2003, 21:35
Originally posted by Minderwiz
A lot depends on what the object of your reading is - horoscope or astrological spreads are good for things like the year ahead - each card in the circle representing a month (possibly starting with this year's birthday) - they are also particularly good for a reading based on the areas of life covered
by the houses

that was my intention. to offer a year tarot reading with an astrological slant.



I would actually do a horoscope reading treating the Sun sign as the first house - so both Virgo and Libra would be read in the same way, though you might use a little knowledge of the signs to think about the different ways in which they would react in each area. So for example your Libra subject has Scorpio on the second House of material resources and would deal with these in a far more intense and secretive way than your Virgo subject who has Libra on the second.

and this is what i am going to attempt doing
thank you for the help and suggestions

Minderwiz
16-09-2003, 22:30
I'd love to know how you get on with this - it is a really interesting exercise. So if you wouldn't mind, tell us what happened. And if you end up with any more questions just ask!

catti
16-09-2003, 22:47
of course !
do you want me to post here? or in the Your Readings forum...in a way i'd prefer here since what i need feedback on is my astrological interpretations..but whatever you feel is appropriate.

Thank you again.
this is wonderful encouragement to do something i have wanted to do for a while , i really appreciate the support

lunalafey
17-09-2003, 01:22
Originally posted by Minderwiz
astrological spreads are good for things like the year ahead - each card in the circle representing a month (possibly starting with this year's birthday) -

I use the astro-spread two ways when reading for a year..
but I can't mix the two ways together.....
one is like mentioned above....I lay out the cards starting with Aries.....but I start the year in the sign that will come next in real time....the other way is by houses....every house/card covers the whole of the year. I have tried to combine them......at a loss, so it will be interesting to see what you come up with...

Minderwiz
17-09-2003, 04:18
I'm like you, lunalafey, I know in principle that the two approaches can be combined in one reading but I've never really managed to do it. In fact I chicken out and do Astrological readings instead (telling myself I'm 'good' at that)

There is a lot to be gained though from looking at the imagery of the Tarot in an Astrological setting and I think its something worth perservering with.

isthmus nekoi
17-09-2003, 06:15
Originally posted by catti
of course !
do you want me to post here? or in the Your Readings forum...in a way i'd prefer here since what i need feedback on is my astrological interpretations..

I think it will do fine here :) Looking fwd to seeing how it goes!

Minderwiz
17-09-2003, 06:17
Yes, here would be great - saves having to keep an eye on more than one forum LOL.

lunalafey
19-12-2003, 06:35
Originally posted by Minderwiz
I'm like you, lunalafey, I know in principle that the two approaches can be combined in one reading but I've never really managed to do it.

Well I think I figured out a way to intigrate a month to month outlook as well as areas (houses) of life for the year into one Astrological spread, using the same 12 cards~

it works like this-
first you must know what the rising sign on the person that the reading is for.....and what sign the sun is currently in....
prepare your cards-
the positions are 1-12...starting 1st/hs ARIES---
OK- let's say.....we are doing a reading for Miss T...she's a Leo rising and today's date is Oct 31....
the Sun is in Scorpio- so you start putting cards down at the Scorpio position-#8....work your way around.....
Starting with position #9....this is the coming month for Miss T, starting on the day when the Sun moves into Saggitarius...follow along month by month, by the signs (not calandar months).
So now there is a play by play of each months influences......
NOW- for the year as a whole....focusing an the 'areas' in life, the parts of life designated by the houses--
since Miss T is a Leo rising.....we go to the card in position #5, this card expresses the influences upon Miss T and things related to the 1st house...for the whole year......follow that around......

I think that there can be an added feature to this spread that uses 2 card combinations, one from the "month" and one from the "house"......but the specifics there, I will have to play around a bit....for it was one of those quick flashes- of Hey-Hmm!?

I'd would be into having a small group to test this spread- it would take a year to get through it- But I am really interested in seeing (knowing all to well, the cards never lie) how well the combining of aspects works out in this spread. Things such as planetary positions and the like can also be looked into, for something in the spread may parallel something in the natal....
It would be a good one to do for New Year spread group like we had last year.

Minderwiz
19-12-2003, 06:58
Sounds interesting and certainly worth a trial to see how well it works.

Conniejfoster
16-05-2014, 05:54
I have never used the ascendant method of timing. I find most of my clients don't know the time they were born or they only know "about" what time they were born. that is one reason I like the Tarot. You don't really have to know it.

what I do is look at the chart and when talking about something that has just happened I use the sun sign in which it happened. Then I move around the houses assigning each additional house as the corresponding sign. that means the resolution to an event's timing can change depending on which house the event occurred.

An example reading would be one I did recently.
The client's spread showed in the 4th house a major change in her home, but her not moving. It turned out their home was lost in the tornado in Mayflower, Arkansas, April 27.
I then used the 4th house as Taurus, the 5th house as Gemini, etc. Her 8th house showed problems getting money from insurance and government, probably from paperwork issues. Since those issues were showed in the 8th house, I could tell her it would be resolved during the sign of Virgo. I find it is easier to use this method, because I can find something that has happened in the current sign or the one before and it is more reliable than their rising sign. Sometimes there is more than one issue that has recently happened. In that case I have to look at the appropriate house that relates to the issue. In the case of the tornado destroying her home, the insurance and government resolution was directly related to the destruction of her home.

Another example was her car had been destroyed and she needed a replacement so she could go back to work. The car and other personal items being lost showed up in the second house. That would put the second house as Taurus also. The resolution would be the same house so the issue would be resolved before Taurus ended. (May 20)

Note that I was able to tell her all of that before I knew she lost everything in the tornado. She waited until I had told her those things before she told me about being in the tornado.