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Minderwiz
02-06-2012, 05:33
This thread is where I will post the readings for questions asked in the Horary Readings Round 7 - Questions thread. Please don't post new questions in it because I'll miss them and you won't get your reading. :(
As well as my readings, it's the place to post your feedback to your reading or for outsiders to make comments or ask questions about someone else's reading - for example people who are trying to learn Horary and want to fully understand the basis of the reading.
Minderwiz
02-06-2012, 06:34
I would like to know when I can expect to receive a job promotion/relocation offer. I know you prefer to forecast only 6 months in advance, and that time frame is fine by me. Anything you can tell me about the type of job, location, or cirucmstances leading me in the direction I should be looking would be helpful.
Background: I work for the government and I have been applying for jobs within the agency I work for, but also in other agencies where my qualifications allow me to meet basic minimum requirements. I'm willing to move within states east of the Mississippi River but prefer an east coast location, though given how difficult the process has been for me to find a position over the past several months, my circle of acceptable locations has started to grow a bit broader than before. I am expecting to travel for work to a training class in the month of June, so if that were to show up in the forecast you should know that's not a promotional opportunity, just a training opportunity with my current job.
The qiestion is about a promotion either within the existing Agency or in another one. The original time of 6 months was modified by mutual agreement to 1 year. This led to me casting a new chart from the moment I understood my suggested extension of the time period was acceptable.
The attached chart has Scorpio rising, meaning that your significator in the chart is Mars. Mars is placed in the tenth House (career) at 15 degrees Virgo. It's highly angular showing both your interest and need for the new job and also that you are well placed to be noticed. Mars doesn't have any essential dignity of it's own, so whilst you might well be noticed, you may not necessarily meet the person specification for the job - which is not always based on qualifications and experience, so it might well be worth some investigation into how closely you meet the person specifications of the jobs you are applying for and how well you bring that out in your job applications. You might be underselling yourself.
Mercury rules the MC through Virgo, and this is Mercury the detail lover, so the job might be concerned with record keeping, data analysis, data sorting, accounts and both accounting and information systems (either paper based or computer based). Those are not by any means exclusive but it's a detail related job. Mercury is in Gemini, @~Which is very good though positionally Mercury is in the eighth, which is not a good situation - however here that might simply mean that the job is 'out of sight' - a 'backroom' type of job - very valuable but not high profile. It might also mean that you have to search hard to find it. This is stressed by Mercury being combust (close to the Sun) which literally means that you can't see it at the moment.
Mercury is in a separating square to Mars, which usually means that the chance of the job has now passed. The square aspect is related to difficulties of getting what you want, so it's not suggesting that a wonderful opportunity has just been missed.
There's also something of a fly in the ointment. Mercury is in the same degree as Venus, and both planets are mutually applying (Venus is retrograde) This carries two 'downers', firstly the angualr separation is such that this aspect will be perfected long before the Mars/Mercury square. The other is that Venus is Lord 12, accidentally a malefic, and you (Mars) are in the terms and decan of Venus plus Venus is the Earth triplicity ruler - Venus has some power over you as well as being about to hit the job.
Now if you work for the CIA/FBI or other clandestine government agency or are applying to such an agency, that might actually be a good sign as the twelfth deals with hidden and secret things. However if you are in a 'normal' visible government agency then the news is not particularly good.
Hope is not lost though, as we also have to consider the Moon, which is currently in Scorpio at 3 degrees - this is just beginning to sextile Mars (the job) and the next major aspect of the Moon will be to Mars. The Moon can act as a co-significator of the querent (you) and the quesstied (the job) so using the latter interpretation that suggests that you should at least get an interview. The Moon is not strong in Scorpio but Mars is a nocturnal planet, and so has a very loose affinity with the Moon and the Sextile with Mars will occur in the Terms of Mercury as well as the sign of Mars.
There's a chance - I think you should get an interview but I'm not sure you have enough going for you in the chart to get the job or that you will particularly want it when you learn more at the interview.
Will it involve travel? Mercury is conjunct the Sun, which is Lord 9 in this chart, and so rules travel. So there must be some good chance you will have to travel for the job.
How long? - Scorpio is a fixed sign, and there's nearly 12 degrees of separation between Moon and Mars, so I'd say it's longer rather than shorter - right at the end of the period being concerned is most likely but as Mercury and Mars are angular and in mutable signs that might speed up things a bit. So the latter six months I would think.
Good luck but if you get that interview (and you should make that step) think carefully before accepting.
MaineGirl117
03-06-2012, 07:29
The attached chart has Scorpio rising, meaning that your significator in the chart is Mars. Mars is placed in the tenth House (career) at 15 degrees Virgo. It's highly angular showing both your interest and need for the new job and also that you are well placed to be noticed. Mars doesn't have any essential dignity of it's own, so whilst you might well be noticed, you may not necessarily meet the person specification for the job - which is not always based on qualifications and experience, so it might well be worth some investigation into how closely you meet the person specifications of the jobs you are applying for and how well you bring that out in your job applications. You might be underselling yourself.
Mercury rules the MC through Virgo, and this is Mercury the detail lover, so the job might be concerned with record keeping, data analysis, data sorting, accounts and both accounting and information systems (either paper based or computer based). Those are not by any means exclusive but it's a detail related job. Mercury is in Gemini, @~Which is very good though positionally Mercury is in the eighth, which is not a good situation - however here that might simply mean that the job is 'out of sight' - a 'backroom' type of job - very valuable but not high profile. It might also mean that you have to search hard to find it. This is stressed by Mercury being combust (close to the Sun) which literally means that you can't see it at the moment.
These two go together I think. Just the other night I was speaking to the Front Line Supervisor (top dog before getting to district administration level) and I was discussing the difficulty I was having and asking her if there was anything else I should be doing. She strongly suggested that I have my resume reviewed by my Supervisor - who works in the ’back room’ literally out of sight! I have a strong biology background (ironically, she has a chemistry background.. Ie mercury/magician? Interesting huh?) but she’s also very good with words and has a very *bright and shiny* resume. Basically whatever it is she’s wanted for a job, she’s gotten. Pretty amazing, and talents that would come in handy for me. She has agreed to look it over and offer advice and I admitted to her the other night that I might be too straightforward with my writing style and lack the warmth and personalized touches that ‘endear’ or make an impression to strangers.
I have been selling myself short actually. I’ve been applying for lower level positions outside of the agency just to see what would come up. I did receive a job offer (perhaps that’s the ’interview’ below) but the hours were wishy-washy at best, and I’d lose benefits during certain parts of the year. I would be a complete knuckle-head to got from a full time/full benefit position to something like that.
Mercury is in a separating square to Mars, which usually means that the chance of the job has now passed. The square aspect is related to difficulties of getting what you want, so it's not suggesting that a wonderful opportunity has just been missed.
This is good to know. The one positive with working in the government is there are always job opportunities coming up.
There's also something of a fly in the ointment. Mercury is in the same degree as Venus, and both planets are mutually applying (Venus is retrograde) This carries two 'downers', firstly the angualr separation is such that this aspect will be perfected long before the Mars/Mercury square. The other is that Venus is Lord 12, accidentally a malefic, and you (Mars) are in the terms and decan of Venus plus Venus is the Earth triplicity ruler - Venus has some power over you as well as being about to hit the job.
Now if you work for the CIA/FBI or other clandestine government agency or are applying to such an agency, that might actually be a good sign as the twelfth deals with hidden and secret things. However if you are in a 'normal' visible government agency then the news is not particularly good.
My job is not ‘normal’ and visible. I operate out of a field office ‘on premise’ to another company and not in a government building. This description is interesting in that one possible job I have my eye on does involve investigations, audits, dredging things up from the past, consequences etc. As a matter of fact, this job exists in three different agencies (I believe.. I’m well aware of two, but the third might have more limited influence) which makes your comment about the Venus/triplicity ruler interesting. The jobs also all involve food/agriculture.
This carries two 'downers', firstly the angualr separation is such that this aspect will be perfected long before the Mars/Mercury square.
This part is interesting in that I’m also applying for jobs in the medical/government field. I wonder if your full comment above indicates that I will find a job in the agricultural industries before I’m able to break into the medical field? One of the three agencies I mentioned above deals with both agriculture and medicine (FDA) whereas the agency I work for now only deals with agriculture.
Hope is not lost though, as we also have to consider the Moon, which is currently in Scorpio at 3 degrees - this is just beginning to sextile Mars (the job) and the next major aspect of the Moon will be to Mars. The Moon can act as a co-significator of the querent (you) and the quesstied (the job) so using the latter interpretation that suggests that you should at least get an interview. The Moon is not strong in Scorpio but Mars is a nocturnal planet, and so has a very loose affinity with the Moon and the Sextile with Mars will occur in the Terms of Mercury as well as the sign of Mars.
There's a chance - I think you should get an interview but I'm not sure you have enough going for you in the chart to get the job or that you will particularly want it when you learn more at the interview.
For the most part, hiring is based exclusively on your resume. Very little interviewing occurs. However, the only job (s) that I know of that DO have an interview, are the ones mentioned above as an investigator. There are actually training modules designed for applications to prepare for these interviews. They are rigorous! It certainly requires a great deal of preparation prior to, and of course the interview makes or breaks your opportunity.
Will it involve travel? Mercury is conjunct the Sun, which is Lord 9 in this chart, and so rules travel. So there must be some good chance you will have to travel for the job.
The investigator position requires excessive travel. (by excessive I mean 60% +) Currently I am a ‘traveler’ for work, but in a limited scope (between two states) and not very often. Any training involved with taking a new job will require additional nationwide travel.
How long? - Scorpio is a fixed sign, and there's nearly 12 degrees of separation between Moon and Mars, so I'd say it's longer rather than shorter - right at the end of the period being concerned is most likely but as Mercury and Mars are angular and in mutable signs that might speed up things a bit. So the latter six months I would think.
One of the things that is holding me back currently are my years of service. All jobs have standing Time-In-Grade requirements, and currently I’m a Grade 7. I do not yet qualify for Grade 8 jobs until February/March of next year, which is why I’ve been applying for 7 positions, though my education degrees actually satisfy the educational requirements for these investigator positions. I am grossly overqualified for the job I do right now, but don’t have any other advantages (such as graduate work) that would propel me beyond the TIG req’s to these other positions. I do hold superior academic standing in my resume, but that hasn’t swayed any decision in my favor - yet.
Good luck but if you get that interview (and you should make that step) think carefully before accepting.
Thank you! I’ll certainly be discerning with all aspects of job offers as the *place* I’d move to is just as important as the job itself. Hope my feedback was helpful!
Minderwiz
05-06-2012, 00:58
Thanks for your detailed feedback, which helps me quite a lot in terms of checking that my interpretation meets the facts of the situation.
Given that I've put the job opportunity in the last six months of the period and your achievement of those service requirements for Grade 8, it looks like the job will come along at the right time. Good luck!!!
Minderwiz
05-06-2012, 02:34
After some negotiation the question was agreed as:
'Should I relocate back to my home State?'
with the implication that a 'yes' answer suggests that the other issues mentioned will benefit from a relocation. No time period is specified here, because it's a basic 'Yes' or 'No' question which will suggest where YDM42 focusses her energies and planning.
The first chart I cast for this question had Saturn exactly conjunct the Ascendant, and as Saturn was not a significator in the chart I took this as an indication that it was not fit to be judged, especially as I was waiting for a confirmatory PM to my understanding of the question.
The second chart was cast when I read the confirmatory PM and that chart is attached to this post. This chart is interesting as it is cast almost exactly for the Full Moon, So the situation is getting the maximum illumination and perhaps indicting now is the time to end the uncertainty that has been with you.
The answer is given according to the strength of significators and the Moon in the chart - the stronger they are the more likely it is that the answer is 'Yes'. Weak significators, weakly placed answers 'No'
You are signified by the Sun as Leo is rising (again bringing us back to the need for light) and the Sun is in Gemini in the eleventh House (Traditionally the House of the Good Spirit).
The Sun is low in essential dignity in Gemini - it's actually Peregrine. What is more it is in the Triplicity of Saturn and the Face of Mars, so we have malefics involved. So on essential dignity of the Sun the answer is 'Weak' and this is a negative indication. Score for the move 0 - 1
By House placement this is a good placement, if not angular it is in the best succeedant house so there are only four better places it could have been placed. So on position we have a positive testimony to the move. Score now is 1-1
The Sun is in the Terms of Venus and it is in an applying conjunction with Venus (which is retrograde). As a natural benefic this is a good indicator. Score 2 - 1
The Sun is in an exact sextile to the Ascendant - It is always a good sign in a chart when the Ascendant ruler aspects the Ascendant. Score 3 - 1
However the Sun is also in an applying square to Mars, it will not be the first aspect the Sun makes but the influence is there. Mars in Virgo is placed in the second House indicating that there will be financial obstacles to the move and this may severely threaten it. Score 3 - 2.
The question is about a relocation back to your home community and family. For this reason I'm going to take the fourth House as signifying the quesited - a return to family roots. The ninth which is usually used for long journeys is really more concerned with foreign travel or new places. The third is concerned with local trips so whilst the fourth could represent your current'home' I think its use to signify a return to roots is appropriate. Moreover your description of your present State and its mores, suggests that you really don't think of it as 'Home' in an emotional sense.
The fourth is ruled by Venus (and we have seen that the Sun is in a mutually applying conjunction with Venus). Veuns is also in the twelfth and therefore well placed. Score 4 -2
Venus is retrograde but in it's own Terms (and as that retrograde motion is taking it towards your signifcator that is not as bad as it could be). Again the fact that Venus is combust would usually count against it but this is a case where the Sun is a significator, so I can't downgrade it for that condition when Venus/Sun contacts are seen as positive in the question.
Saturn is conjunct the IC In Libra Saturn is exalted, so loses much of its malevolence but Saturn is retrograde which adds a bit back. Saturn actually rules the Seventh, so seeing that part of the reason for the move is the opportunity for new romantic partnerships, again that tends to count in favour of this placement. Overall I'd probably say this is neutral to being slightly in favour of the move. Score 4.5 - 2
Lastly there is the Moon to consider. The Moon is in Sagittarius, conjunct the fifth cusp. Although not strong in Sagittarius, the Moon has at least some dignity by Face. More dignity would have been better, so Score 4.5 - 2.5
The fifth is a good placement, next after the eleventh. The fifth is the House of Good Fortune and better still the Moon is trining the Ascendant a really positive sign. Score 5.5 - 2.5
The Full Moon perhaps suggests that if left much longer the decision will become more difficult and less able to influence the decision as the Moon will be losing power.
The balance seems to be largely in favour of the relocation but it will not come without some costs - ties to your children will be weakened and their will be financial costs. The Moon in the fifth (also the House of Children) trining the Ascendant may suggest that your children may actually be supportive of the move - so it's something that you need to talk over with them.
This clearly is a major decision and one Horary is perhaps not the basis on which to make it but it suggests that you should focus your attention on the possibillity of the move and see if other indicators, from family both in your current State and 'back home' are favourable. From an Astrological perspective I'd also look at the natal indicators over the coming 12 months or more to see what trends exist and whether these support or oppose the horary reading. And of course there may be other divinatory methods that you want to use. to help you make the decision.
After some negotiation the question was agreed as:
'Should I relocate back to my home State?'
with the implication that a 'yes' answer suggests that the other issues mentioned will benefit from a relocation. No time period is specified here, because it's a basic 'Yes' or 'No' question which will suggest where YDM42 focusses her energies and planning.
The first chart I cast for this question had Saturn exactly conjunct the Ascendant, and as Saturn was not a significator in the chart I took this as an indication that it was not fit to be judged, especially as I was waiting for a confirmatory PM to my understanding of the question. This makes sense, as the validity of the question was up in the air.
The second chart was cast when I read the confirmatory PM and that chart is attached to this post. This chart is interesting as it is cast almost exactly for the Full Moon, So the situation is getting the maximum illumination and perhaps indicting now is the time to end the uncertainty that has been with you. This is so true, it has come to a time where I have to decide weather to stay or go, as the rest of the chart indicates there will be a small window of time in which the relocation can be successful, and timing is what really important here.
The answer is given according to the strength of significators and the Moon in the chart - the stronger they are the more likely it is that the answer is 'Yes'. Weak significators, weakly placed answers 'No'
You are signified by the Sun as Leo is rising (again bringing us back to the need for light) and the Sun is in Gemini in the eleventh House (Traditionally the House of the Good Spirit).
The Sun is low in essential dignity in Gemini - it's actually Peregrine. What is more it is in the Triplicity of Saturn and the Face of Mars, so we have malefics involved. So on essential dignity of the Sun the answer is 'Weak' and this is a negative indication. Score for the move 0 - 1
By House placement this is a good placement, if not angular it is in the best succeedant house so there are only four better places it could have been placed. So on position we have a positive testimony to the move. Score now is 1-1
The Sun is in the Terms of Venus and it is in an applying conjunction with Venus (which is retrograde). As a natural benefic this is a good indicator. Score 2 - 1
The Sun is in an exact sextile to the Ascendant - It is always a good sign in a chart when the Ascendant ruler aspects the Ascendant. Score 3 - 1
However the Sun is also in an applying square to Mars, it will not be the first aspect the Sun makes but the influence is there. Mars in Virgo is placed in the second House indicating that there will be financial obstacles to the move and this may severely threaten it. Score 3 - 2.
The question is about a relocation back to your home community and family. For this reason I'm going to take the fourth House as signifying the quesited - a return to family roots. The ninth which is usually used for long journeys is really more concerned with foreign travel or new places. The third is concerned with local trips so whilst the fourth could represent your current'home' I think its use to signify a return to roots is appropriate. Moreover your description of your present State and its mores, suggests that you really don't think of it as 'Home' in an emotional sense.
The fourth is ruled by Venus (and we have seen that the Sun is in a mutually applying conjunction with Venus). Veuns is also in the twelfth and therefore well placed. Score 4 -2
Venus is retrograde but in it's own Terms (and as that retrograde motion is taking it towards your signifcator that is not as bad as it could be). Again the fact that Venus is combust would usually count against it but this is a case where the Sun is a significator, so I can't downgrade it for that condition when Venus/Sun contacts are seen as positive in the question.
Saturn is conjunct the IC In Libra Saturn is exalted, so loses much of its malevolence but Saturn is retrograde which adds a bit back. Saturn actually rules the Seventh, so seeing that part of the reason for the move is the opportunity for new romantic partnerships, again that tends to count in favour of this placement. Overall I'd probably say this is neutral to being slightly in favour of the move. Score 4.5 - 2 Im not sure what all this means, however I know that my mother is a Libra and her desire if for me to return home. I'm sure she has plenty of guys in mind to hook me up with, if she thought that "a relationship" would bring me home.
Lastly there is the Moon to consider. The Moon is in Sagittarius, conjunct the fifth cusp. Although not strong in Sagittarius, the Moon has at least some dignity by Face. More dignity would have been better, so Score 4.5 - 2.5
The fifth is a good placement, next after the eleventh. The fifth is the House of Good Fortune and better still the Moon is trining the Ascendant a really positive sign. Score 5.5 - 2.5
The Full Moon perhaps suggests that if left much longer the decision will become more difficult and less able to influence the decision as the Moon will be losing power.
The balance seems to be largely in favour of the relocation but it will not come without some costs - ties to your children will be weakened and their will be financial costs. The Moon in the fifth (also the House of Children) trining the Ascendant may suggest that your children may actually be supportive of the move - so it's something that you need to talk over with them.
This clearly is a major decision and one Horary is perhaps not the basis on which to make it but it suggests that you should focus your attention on the possibillity of the move and see if other indicators, from family both in your current State and 'back home' are favourable. From an Astrological perspective I'd also look at the natal indicators over the coming 12 months or more to see what trends exist and whether these support or oppose the horary reading. And of course there may be other divinatory methods that you want to use. to help you make the decision.[/quote] I agree, time is of the essence. As the rest of the reading indicates, money is a major factor. Thank you for the reading, the terms are hard to understand but Im clear on the answer - at least for right now, it telling me to look at the financial impact of the move. My kids love my home state and would love for me to go home- so that's not a big discussion with them. I would be closer to my son and my daughter loves to travel, and loves my home state. The reading clearly indicated the two biggest considerations- time and money. Everybody at home (including my mother)travels all the time, so on the down side is might end up at home while everyone else is traveling all over the world and going on crusies and being out of town a lot, but at least when they are home I can be right there with them, right around the corner or down the street, and not miles and miles away.
Minderwiz
05-06-2012, 09:11
Im not sure what all this means, however I know that my mother is a Libra and her desire if for me to return home. I'm sure she has plenty of guys in mind to hook me up with, if she thought that "a relationship" would bring me home.
Saturn is usually seen as a malefic - that it it obstructs, gets in the way, delays, leads to indecision or makes things difficult. There are times when Saturn can be constructive - being in Aquarius, Libra or Capricorn usually leads to a more constructive influence, though in this case Saturn happens to be retrograde, which is not particularly helpful.
In this chart, Saturn rules the Seventh House through Aquarius, and one of the background issues is that of a romantic relationship. Now Saturn isn't generally seen as romantic (to put it mildly) but in this chart it does signify the possibility of a partner. Being conjunct to the IC puts that partner 'at (your) home' or to be a bit more precise in your home State. So it looks like the return will have a good opportunity of meeting someone and starting a relationship.
That makes sense, and sheds some light on how a romantic partnership figures in this decision. Will it be a motivation or inspiration- who knows, because right now I need a little motivation, as I am always inspired, but not always motivated.
Saturn is usually seen as a malefic - that it it obstructs, gets in the way, delays, leads to indecision or makes things difficult. There are times when Saturn can be constructive - being in Aquarius, Libra or Capricorn usually leads to a more constructive influence, though in this case Saturn happens to be retrograde, which is not particularly helpful.
In this chart, Saturn rules the Seventh House through Aquarius, and one of the background issues is that of a romantic relationship. Now Saturn isn't generally seen as romantic (to put it mildly) but in this chart it does signify the possibility of a partner. Being conjunct to the IC puts that partner 'at (your) home' or to be a bit more precise in your home State. So it looks like the return will have a good opportunity of meeting someone and starting a relationship.
Minderwiz
06-06-2012, 22:05
Question:
'Will Z and I begin a romantic relationship in the next 6 months?'
Thiis is the second question that had Saturn in the first when I first cast a chart, hence the delay to a more auspicious date.
The chart has Leo rising so you are signified by the Sun in Gemini and on the cusp of the eleventh House of the Good Spirit, which is a good placement, the strongest after the angles. The Sun is in the sign of Mercury, the Triplicity of Saturn, the Terms of Venusand it's the Face of Mars, but none of it's own dignities. Placed well but weak in essential dignity suggests that you will be noticed - the house position is sextile the Ascendant by sing and well above the horizon. You have indicated that you and Z are in contact so this information confirms the chart. The lack of essential dignity (The Sun is Peregrine) suggests that you feel a little vulnerable and not in control of the situation. Being in the Triplicity of Saturn is a good sign here because Saturn rules the 7th House and thus signifies Z - there are clear feelings. The eleventh is also the House of hopes and aspirations, so you genuinely desire the relationship. Venus is a natural significator of romance but also in this chart rules Saturn in Libra
Saturn is placed in the third House, the house of the Goddess, and again is a reasonable placement, sextiling the Ascendantl The third house is concerned with journeys, so he's away at the moment, Saturn retrograde confirms that he is returning. Although the third is not as good a placement as the eleventh, Saturn is in exaltation in Libra, he's got much more essential dignity and it will be him who most likely decides the outcome or at least takes the leading role for a romance - one way or the other.
Saturn is ruled by Venus, and like the Sun is in the terms of Venus, so he too has some interest in romance. However, Saturn is in the Fall of the Sun and the Sun is in the Fall of Saturn - there has been some clear antagonism in this relationship and it is not dissapated yet on both sides.
The Sun at 16 degrees Gemini is in an applying trine to Saturn at 23 degrees Libra, this of course is a good indicator of you coming together, especially as the aspect is mutually applying.
But the Sun will first of all square Mars in Virgo - this will 'prohibit' the matter being affected - someone else is likely to disrupt the progress to a reunion. As Mars is both Lord 4 and Lord 8 this might be a parent or family member who counsels you against renewing the relationship or an outsider (in which case their motives are not likely to be the best as Lord 8 is a malefic influence in a chart to a greater or less extent).
The Moon at 12 degrees Capricorn is in her detriment but applying to a trine with Mars. She does not aspect the Sun or Saturn (though she does lie at the contrantiscion of the Sun - which is similar to an opposition) nor does she translate light between them, However this placement is interesting when I look at the Lots of Marriage.
There are three Lots that I could consider here. The usual Lot of Marriage for Women is ruled by Jupiter who makes no aspect to Sun or Saturn or plays any active role in the chart.
The Lot of Marriage used by Vettius Valens is ruled by Mercury (in Virgo). Given that the Sun is also ruled by Mercury you need to consider whether it's really him that you are interested in or simply the idea of a romance and reunion. The alternative Lot of Marriage for women that is sometimes used is ruled by Mars (it's in Aries) and again given the application of Sun to Mars and Moon to Mars focuses on the status of 'marriage' or relationship rather than the person involved. The Sun is exalted in Aries and the Lot is not far froim the exaltation degree of the Sun. You want the relationship but do you really want him?
There are clear indications that a relationship is being considered and that there is a move towards one. However given the placements in each other's Fall of the main significators, at best the two of you feel very vulnerable with the other, at worst there is still some bad feeling between you.
You do need to think of what you really want here - him or the idea of a relationship with him. I don't really see the relationship working out in the time period that is stipulated, someone is likely to cause you to stop and re-evaluate or prevent things developing. However in the longer term there may be hope if you can both resolve past issues and take things slowly.
scorpiogirl
07-06-2012, 01:08
Hi you skipped me. :-)
Minderwiz
07-06-2012, 02:20
Hi you skipped me. :-)
Oops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK You're next BTW when you say 'see P' and 'wondering if he's keen on me', that looks like a romance question, not just a visit question (especially as you're planning the visit at the moment. Am I right in thinking you hope this is going to lead to romance or is it just two friends reuniting?
scorpiogirl
07-06-2012, 03:21
Oops!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OK You're next BTW when you say 'see P' and 'wondering if he's keen on me', that looks like a romance question, not just a visit question (especially as you're planning the visit at the moment. Am I right in thinking you hope this is going to lead to romance or is it just two friends reuniting?
No I am not hoping for romance. Just want to ask if he likes me romantically because he flirts with me all the time. I find him attractive of course but I want to be friends. And I would like to see him but wondering if things will get in the way.
Thanks.
Question:
'Will Z and I begin a romantic relationship in the next 6 months?'
Thiis is the second question that had Saturn in the first when I first cast a chart, hence the delay to a more auspicious date.
The chart has Leo rising so you are signified by the Sun in Gemini and on the cusp of the eleventh House of the Good Spirit, which is a good placement, the strongest after the angles. The Sun is in the sign of Mercury, the Triplicity of Saturn, the Terms of Venusand it's the Face of Mars, but none of it's own dignities. Placed well but weak in essential dignity suggests that you will be noticed - the house position is sextile the Ascendant by sing and well above the horizon. You have indicated that you and Z are in contact so this information confirms the chart. The lack of essential dignity (The Sun is Peregrine) suggests that you feel a little vulnerable and not in control of the situation. Being in the Triplicity of Saturn is a good sign here because Saturn rules the 7th House and thus signifies Z - there are clear feelings. The eleventh is also the House of hopes and aspirations, so you genuinely desire the relationship. Venus is a natural significator of romance but also in this chart rules Saturn in Libra
We WERE in contact. Things were going well, and then over the past couple days he hasn't been returning any of my messages. I'm a bit concerned about him because it is very unlike him to ignore me like this. I am not in control of the situation at all. Right now whether things turn romantic is in his hands He knows that I want him. Yes, I have very strong feelings towards him. I do genuinely desire the relationship.
Saturn is placed in the third House, the house of the Goddess, and again is a reasonable placement, sextiling the Ascendantl The third house is concerned with journeys, so he's away at the moment, Saturn retrograde confirms that he is returning. Although the third is not as good a placement as the eleventh, Saturn is in exaltation in Libra, he's got much more essential dignity and it will be him who most likely decides the outcome or at least takes the leading role for a romance - one way or the other.
I'm hoping that he returns sooner rather than later. He is the one to decide the outcome for romance I am all onboard for romance.
Saturn is ruled by Venus, and like the Sun is in the terms of Venus, so he too has some interest in romance. However, Saturn is in the Fall of the Sun and the Sun is in the Fall of Saturn - there has been some clear antagonism in this relationship and it is not dissapated yet on both sides.
There is still some antagonism left between the both of us.
The Sun at 16 degrees Gemini is in an applying trine to Saturn at 23 degrees Libra, this of course is a good indicator of you coming together, especially as the aspect is mutually applying.
But the Sun will first of all square Mars in Virgo - this will 'prohibit' the matter being affected - someone else is likely to disrupt the progress to a reunion. As Mars is both Lord 4 and Lord 8 this might be a parent or family member who counsels you against renewing the relationship or an outsider (in which case their motives are not likely to be the best as Lord 8 is a malefic influence in a chart to a greater or less extent).
So this person disrupting progress to a reunion would be coming from my side of the situation rather than his side? If so, I have a good idea who that may be.
The Moon at 12 degrees Capricorn is in her detriment but applying to a trine with Mars. She does not aspect the Sun or Saturn (though she does lie at the contrantiscion of the Sun - which is similar to an opposition) nor does she translate light between them, However this placement is interesting when I look at the Lots of Marriage.
There are three Lots that I could consider here. The usual Lot of Marriage for Women is ruled by Jupiter who makes no aspect to Sun or Saturn or plays any active role in the chart.
The Lot of Marriage used by Vettius Valens is ruled by Mercury (in Virgo). Given that the Sun is also ruled by Mercury you need to consider whether it's really him that you are interested in or simply the idea of a romance and reunion. The alternative Lot of Marriage for women that is sometimes used is ruled by Mars (it's in Aries) and again given the application of Sun to Mars and Moon to Mars focuses on the status of 'marriage' or relationship rather than the person involved. The Sun is exalted in Aries and the Lot is not far froim the exaltation degree of the Sun. You want the relationship but do you really want him?
The ending of the relationship was his decision. He had decided to move, and this really hurt me deeply. I am a bit undecided as to what I want. I want things to be like they were before the break up, but like I said, he hurt me extremely bad, and I am not positive that I trust him not to hurt me again. I guess there is something to be said about Taureans and Sagittarians getting together!!! But I think the only reason that it worked was because we both had very fire heavy charts. A lot of my planets were in fire signs, and my moon was conjunct his sun. But then there are the Taurus traits that get in the way of what the fire traits want.
There are clear indications that a relationship is being considered and that there is a move towards one. However given the placements in each other's Fall of the main significators, at best the two of you feel very vulnerable with the other, at worst there is still some bad feeling between you.
You do need to think of what you really want here - him or the idea of a relationship with him. I don't really see the relationship working out in the time period that is stipulated, someone is likely to cause you to stop and re-evaluate or prevent things developing. However in the longer term there may be hope if you can both resolve past issues and take things slowly.
I think that we both are extremely vulnerable with each other. We both have a lot of hard pluto aspects between our personal planets in our synastry charts which make the pull worse.
Minderwiz
08-06-2012, 00:03
Thanks for the feedback,
I can see that you have some positive feelings for him, but I don't think these are reciprocated to anything like the same extent. However time may well heal things in the longer term. I wish you all the best in your attempts to re-ignite things :)
Minderwiz
08-06-2012, 00:55
No I am not hoping for romance. Just want to ask if he likes me romantically because he flirts with me all the time. I find him attractive of course but I want to be friends. And I would like to see him but wondering if things will get in the way.
Thanks.
OK that makes a lot of sense, so here goes:
I cast a chart yesterday for the question simply relating to travel plans and then thought that there might be something more to it than just a visit. I have attached the chart.
The chart has Scorpio rising, which in itself suggests a radical chart LOL. Mars is in Virgo in the tenth House of Activity Work and Career, so you may either have been at work or concerned with work around the time that you asked the question. Mars is in the Triplicity and Face of Venus, who rules the eleventh House of Friends (and Hopes and Aspirations) so he is a priority as well and Mars is in the Terms of Jupiter, so Money (probably the cost of the trip) is also on your list of priorities. Mars is not particularly strong in Virgo
As you have stressed that he is a friend, he's signified by Venus who rules the eleventh. Interestingly Venus also rules the Seventh of partners. Venus is in Gemini and currently in bad condition. She's retrograde in the eighth and under the Sun's Beams. Two indications here that she (He) cannot be seen. What's more being retrograde, she's moving away from Mars, not towards it.
The trip is signified by the Moon, ruler of the ninth House of overseas travel. The Moon is in Capricorn, where she is in Detriment (so the trip and it's planning are not strong. Moreover the Moon opposes the ninth cusp. I think there could well be problems with the trip and/or its planning
The good news though is that Mars is in a partile Trine to the Moon from Virgo to Capricorn. So you are almost certain to make the trip to Venice. The Moon is in the Exaltation and Face of Mars, so (astrologically) Mars receives the Moon into Capricorn and I think that is going to ensure that any problems with the trip are likely to be ones that can be overcome.
The issue of his feelings is a little more difficult. With Venus moving away from Mars, I think he is a going to be a little more 'distanct' with you. However Venus is at least in the Face of Mars, so there's some positive feeling there. I don't see it as being strongly romantic, or even particularly romantic at all. Venus is in it's own Terms, so he's more concerned with himself - The eighth House of the radical chart is the tenth House from the Eleventh, so his primary concern is his own career (not surprising given the information you've given) and the weakness of Venus in the chart might suggest that career will take him further away from you, though I can't be certain of that.
So, Yes the trip will go ahead but be prepared for some hitches or issues which are likely to be annoying rather than anything that really threatens your plans to much. You may find him more interested in being friends than anything else and perhaps more concerned with his career than any other single issue.
scorpiogirl
08-06-2012, 01:35
OK that makes a lot of sense, so here goes:
I cast a chart yesterday for the question simply relating to travel plans and then thought that there might be something more to it than just a visit. I have attached the chart.
The chart has Scorpio rising, which in itself suggests a radical chart LOL. Mars is in Virgo in the tenth House of Activity Work and Career, so you may either have been at work or concerned with work around the time that you asked the question. Mars is in the Triplicity and Face of Venus, who rules the eleventh House of Friends (and Hopes and Aspirations) so he is a priority as well and Mars is in the Terms of Jupiter, so Money (probably the cost of the trip) is also on your list of priorities. Mars is not particularly strong in Virgo
As you have stressed that he is a friend, he's signified by Venus who rules the eleventh. Interestingly Venus also rules the Seventh of partners. Venus is in Gemini and currently in bad condition. She's retrograde in the eighth and under the Sun's Beams. Two indications here that she (He) cannot be seen. What's more being retrograde, she's moving away from Mars, not towards it.
The trip is signified by the Moon, ruler of the ninth House of overseas travel. The Moon is in Capricorn, where she is in Detriment (so the trip and it's planning are not strong. Moreover the Moon opposes the ninth cusp. I think there could well be problems with the trip and/or its planning
The good news though is that Mars is in a partile Trine to the Moon from Virgo to Capricorn. So you are almost certain to make the trip to Venice. The Moon is in the Exaltation and Face of Mars, so (astrologically) Mars receives the Moon into Capricorn and I think that is going to ensure that any problems with the trip are likely to be ones that can be overcome.
The issue of his feelings is a little more difficult. With Venus moving away from Mars, I think he is a going to be a little more 'distanct' with you. However Venus is at least in the Face of Mars, so there's some positive feeling there. I don't see it as being strongly romantic, or even particularly romantic at all. Venus is in it's own Terms, so he's more concerned with himself - The eighth House of the radical chart is the tenth House from the Eleventh, so his primary concern is his own career (not surprising given the information you've given) and the weakness of Venus in the chart might suggest that career will take him further away from you, though I can't be certain of that.
So, Yes the trip will go ahead but be prepared for some hitches or issues which are likely to be annoying rather than anything that really threatens your plans to much. You may find him more interested in being friends than anything else and perhaps more concerned with his career than any other single issue.
I think I rather be freinds with him too. He has expressed to me in a romantic sense but I can't make myself available to him. I ask the question too because I have career plans there too so its not just to visit him in particular, though it would be fantastic to see him!
I am very keen on him. Do you think the chart says I like him more than he likes me?
Is Venus and Mars going back to being applying a squared aspect?
I think I can make the trip too! Thank You.
Minderwiz
08-06-2012, 07:41
I think I rather be freinds with him too. He has expressed to me in a romantic sense but I can't make myself available to him. I ask the question too because I have career plans there too so its not just to visit him in particular, though it would be fantastic to see him!
I am very keen on him. Do you think the chart says I like him more than he likes me?
Is Venus and Mars going back to being applying a squared aspect?
I think I can make the trip too! Thank You.
Your feelings are stronger BUT remember he is being considered as a friend, not a romantic partner. Also given that you are a bit concerned that he might be interested in a romance, your desire for friendship and nothing more probably accounts for this emphasis on him in a 'friendship' relationship. There's nothing here to suggest that he doesn't want to be friends - for him it is more background, probably because that's all he wants to be and he's content with it.
scorpiogirl
08-06-2012, 08:28
Your feelings are stronger BUT remember he is being considered as a friend, not a romantic partner. Also given that you are a bit concerned that he might be interested in a romance, your desire for friendship and nothing more probably accounts for this emphasis on him in a 'friendship' relationship. There's nothing here to suggest that he doesn't want to be friends - for him it is more background, probably because that's all he wants to be and he's content with it.
Wow I am surprised my feelings are stronger. I always felt his were. Because of the way he acts towards me. He flirts, always asks me out (even though I live far away from his city), and stuff like that. But he has lots of Piscces planets so I think he is like that in general with many women ;-).
I am so glad I will be able to make this trip. Thanks Minderwiz. You are awesome.
Minderwiz
09-06-2012, 21:29
Greetings Minderwiz!! I would like to participate if I may.
I am planing in relocating to my homeland in about 1-1/2 to 2 years. I have a couple of things I need to take care of before I make the move, so my question is, 'will that move be beneficial for me and my family?' or if thats too far away for you to see, then my question would be 'will I be able to build my house over there within 1 or two years?'.
The chart cast (attached) has Virgo rising, so you are signified by Mercury, in Cancer in the tenth House. Mercury is not essentially strong in Cancer having recently moved from its own sign of Gemini. Mercury is Peregrine here, but in a way that is an appropriate condition as this question is about the intervening process of moving from one home to another - one still to be built.
Accidentally there is much to be said for Mercury, although not in the same sign as the MC, the tenth is still a good placement, Mercury is direct, oriental and is just emerging from the Sun's beams. Mercury in the eleventh sign from the Ascendant indicates that your activity (tenth House) is concerned with your hopes and aspirations for the move.
The ninth house governs important overseas travel and I also need to look at the fourth house because you are talking about a permanent relocation back to your homeland and the building of a new house there.
The ninth is ruled by Mars, through Aries. Mars is currently in Virgo in the first House. This is a very good placement, being angular but also ruled by your significator, Mercury. You control the move. Even better Mars rules the fourth house, through Scorpio, so the move and the new house are totally connected.
Mars in Virgo is also essentially weak, normally but here there is a weak mutual reception, Mars being in the sign of Mercury and Mercury being in the Terms of Mars. I think this suggests that if you put your energies into this project then it has a significant chance of fruition in the time scale you mentioned - providing that the rest of the chart does not provide serious obstacles. Accidentally Mars is strong through its first house position, it is also direct and free from the Sun's beams.
Even better Mercury's next major aspect to a planet will be a sextile to Mars, though before that sextile it will sextile the Lot of Fortune in Taurus. This suggests that luck is going to play a role in this move, which is further shown by both Mars and Mercury being in the Face of Venus which rules the Lot of Fortune. However Face is not a major dignity so I don't see luck or fate playing a decisive role.
Interestingly the fourth Cusp is at the end of Scorpio - 28 degrees 51 minutes,(and also in the Face of Venus). The cusp at the end of the sign is a suggestion of moving home - which is the subject of the question.
Are there any obstacles to the move?
Mars is currently in partile square from the Sun. In this chart the Sun is Lord 12 - an accidental malefic. So there's a threat there to either house or move or both. As the twelfth relates to the hidden and obscured, that threat may be developing without you seeing it. So that calls for some clarification of the situation to try and ensure that you have all bases covered and there are no hidden 'tripwires' for you to stumble over, such as, say, building regulations that you fail to conform to (but clearly hidden threats by their nature are difficult to identify).
Mercury is ruled by the Moon. The Moon is currently in Aquarius, in the sixth House and in an applying square to Jupiter, ruler of the eighth - another accidental malefic. which is exactly on the MC. The Moon rules the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations, so the square does present a threat to those. So this placement of the Moon in a weak house, in aspect to a malefic influence in the chart again suggests something to watch out for.
If you are using an 'agent' to manage the building of the house and/or the trip, then we would have to consider the sixth House. This is the house that rules servants and an agent is your servant (whether it is a professional service or simply a member of the family acting on your behalf).
The sixth is ruled by Saturn and as already pointed out this is the house where your hopes and aspirations are placed. The agent is a potential weakness because if they get it wrong, then your hopes may well be dashed. Saturn is in its exaltation in Libra. A strong essential dignity, so whoever it is is good at their job. But Saturn is retrograde and on the cusp of the third house of siblings and short journeys. Being retrograde suggests the possibility of 'looking the wrong way' when something needs attention. The third suggests that this might be due to a short trip or have some relation to a sibling. So if you are using an agent - the same message holds - ensure that you properly supervise them.
Now it's possible that these 'threats' are simply what you would expect in general with something like a major relocation coupled with the building of a new home. But I do think you need to ensure that you need to ensure that the control shown by the chart remains in place - don't let your attention waver and check that all things are in place.
I've concentrated on the move and the house as such rather than any comment on whether the move will be beneficial. Mercury and Mars (especially) are well placed, and that suggests a beneficial outcome, given their mutual reception but as with the move - there will be downs as well as ups. I don't see these as being 'killers' but don't think that simply by moving things will automatically improve - you will have to work on it!
jfiallo0982
10-06-2012, 01:16
Im so exited!!!! Like a good Gemini sometimes I want to waiver and change my mind, but no, Im going forward with this move, for me.
We are starting with the construction February of 2013. We have the lot but we still not sure about the agent. I have a friend I went to school with that has a construction company, he is very good at was he does. But I'll have this reading at hand just so I dont forget where to watch out.
My brother will be my next door neighbor, we never got along, so that must be where the 'sibling issue' will be.
I dont know much about horarys but the fact that mercury is in Cancer, which is ruled by the moon, could that have to do with my career too? Im opening my own beauty salon over there.
Again thank you!! Sorry if my feedback is not that detailed as this is something I myself dont know much about.
Minderwiz
10-06-2012, 02:26
Hi minderwiz. May I join - my question: Will I enter a committed, romantic relationship within the next 6 months? Thanks! :heart:
The chart cast has Scorpio rising making your significator Mars. Mars is currently in Virgo, where it is Peregrine, which is usually an indication that you have little or no control over your destiny by your own efforts. It's placed within 5 degrees of the eleventh cusp, so it's treated as being eleventh House. The eleventh house is the next best thing to being angular. so it's well positioned - you might not be able to influence much yourself but you are clearly visible! The eleventh is the House of the Good Spirit and is associated with hopes and aspirations, which suggests that you have hoes that this will come about. Mars is direct, and free from the Sun's beams so it's in fairly good circumstances. You may not be able to do much but if the opportunity arises you will be in the right place to take advantage.
The hoped for partner is signified by Venus. Now Mars is in the Triplicity of Venus and the Face of Venus, so 'he' is clearly the main object of those hopes. Venus is currently in Gemini, also ruled by Mercury but she is retrograde in the eight house. She You may be 'visible' but He cannot see you - he's 'looking the wrong way' (Venus retrograde) and his view is anyway obscured. Venus is in a dignity of Mars - its Face but that is unlikely enough to suggest the ability to look in the 'right direction'. From his point of view he's got other things on his mind at the moment (probably money or possessions) but 'love' is low down on the list. Given Venus' status as combust it's possible that you won't even notice him, despite your desire for a relationship, Again the 'blindness' isn't literal, he might be someone you work with but never for a moment think of him in that way.
By sign Venus and Mars are in a square aspect, given Venus is retrograde it's a separating square. So you might not like him, even if you did notice him or there might be significant obstacles to the relationship forming.
Neither is there a contact by antiscia, so the two main significators offer little hope. The next thing to look at is the Moon, as it might well effect the relationship, either as a second significator for you or for him. The Moon is angular in the fourth house and has some small dignity by Face The Moon makes no contact with either Mars or Venus but she does cast her antiscion onto the Ascendant, I don't think this is sufficient to effect the relationship but it is at least a positive indicator.
Traditionally the Sun is an indicator of a husband in a marriage chart (and Venus for a wife). I can't use Venus here (it's already taken) but the Sun is not, so I could look to see if there's any indication of contact between Sun and Mars. There is but it's a separating square (although a close one). This is again an indicator of obstacles and difficulties. If it was applying, I'd say there was an outside chance of success but that if you were successful you might not be content with the outcome. As it's separating, I can't even be that 'positive'
My final step is to look at the Lots of Marriage. There are three that are used for females. Of these one is ruled by Mars (it's in Scorpio) that of itself is not a major help because we know you want a relationship. However the alternative Lot of Marriage for women is in Taurus, ruled by Venus. The third is in Pisces ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is conjunct the alternative Part in Taurus. So there's a little hope here. He rules the Lot of Marriage for you so perhaps despite the obstacles he will see through to you.
Overall though, I don't see a great chance of success here. There are some things going for you but I don't think they are really enough to say that obstacles will be overcome and romance will follow, I'm not ruling it out but the chances are not good.
Given Mars Peregrine status there's not a lot you are able to do, apart from being seen and being willing to think about 'unlikely' people - but that comes down to how much you really want the relationship.
You didn't mention anybody in particular in your question so I'm assuming it's a start with a clean sheet, rather than having someone in mind in which case, how much you want it is likely to determine the outcome but there's no obvious Mr Right shown by the chart.
Minderwiz
10-06-2012, 02:37
I dont know much about horarys but the fact that mercury is in Cancer, which is ruled by the moon, could that have to do with my career too? Im opening my own beauty salon over there.
Again thank you!! Sorry if my feedback is not that detailed as this is something I myself dont know much about.
Well in this chart the tenth is ruled by Venus (just) and there is little of Cancer in the tenth house (plus it's the third sign along Gemini being totally intercepted). However Venus is a good indication of a career in beauty and Mercury rules the intercepted Gemini, so yes there could well be an indication of the desired career here.
SwordsQueen
11-06-2012, 03:21
The chart cast has Scorpio rising making your significator Mars. Mars is currently in Virgo, where it is Peregrine, which is usually an indication that you have little or no control over your destiny by your own efforts. It's placed within 5 degrees of the eleventh cusp, so it's treated as being eleventh House. The eleventh house is the next best thing to being angular. so it's well positioned - you might not be able to influence much yourself but you are clearly visible! The eleventh is the House of the Good Spirit and is associated with hopes and aspirations, which suggests that you have hoes that this will come about. Mars is direct, and free from the Sun's beams so it's in fairly good circumstances. You may not be able to do much but if the opportunity arises you will be in the right place to take advantage.
The hoped for partner is signified by Venus. Now Mars is in the Triplicity of Venus and the Face of Venus, so 'he' is clearly the main object of those hopes. Venus is currently in Gemini, also ruled by Mercury but she is retrograde in the eight house. She You may be 'visible' but He cannot see you - he's 'looking the wrong way' (Venus retrograde) and his view is anyway obscured. Venus is in a dignity of Mars - its Face but that is unlikely enough to suggest the ability to look in the 'right direction'. From his point of view he's got other things on his mind at the moment (probably money or possessions) but 'love' is low down on the list. Given Venus' status as combust it's possible that you won't even notice him, despite your desire for a relationship, Again the 'blindness' isn't literal, he might be someone you work with but never for a moment think of him in that way.
By sign Venus and Mars are in a square aspect, given Venus is retrograde it's a separating square. So you might not like him, even if you did notice him or there might be significant obstacles to the relationship forming.
Neither is there a contact by antiscia, so the two main significators offer little hope. The next thing to look at is the Moon, as it might well effect the relationship, either as a second significator for you or for him. The Moon is angular in the fourth house and has some small dignity by Face The Moon makes no contact with either Mars or Venus but she does cast her antiscion onto the Ascendant, I don't think this is sufficient to effect the relationship but it is at least a positive indicator.
Traditionally the Sun is an indicator of a husband in a marriage chart (and Venus for a wife). I can't use Venus here (it's already taken) but the Sun is not, so I could look to see if there's any indication of contact between Sun and Mars. There is but it's a separating square (although a close one). This is again an indicator of obstacles and difficulties. If it was applying, I'd say there was an outside chance of success but that if you were successful you might not be content with the outcome. As it's separating, I can't even be that 'positive'
My final step is to look at the Lots of Marriage. There are three that are used for females. Of these one is ruled by Mars (it's in Scorpio) that of itself is not a major help because we know you want a relationship. However the alternative Lot of Marriage for women is in Taurus, ruled by Venus. The third is in Pisces ruled by Jupiter and Jupiter is conjunct the alternative Part in Taurus. So there's a little hope here. He rules the Lot of Marriage for you so perhaps despite the obstacles he will see through to you.
Overall though, I don't see a great chance of success here. There are some things going for you but I don't think they are really enough to say that obstacles will be overcome and romance will follow, I'm not ruling it out but the chances are not good.
Given Mars Peregrine status there's not a lot you are able to do, apart from being seen and being willing to think about 'unlikely' people - but that comes down to how much you really want the relationship.
You didn't mention anybody in particular in your question so I'm assuming it's a start with a clean sheet, rather than having someone in mind in which case, how much you want it is likely to determine the outcome but there's no obvious Mr Right shown by the chart.
Hi Minderwiz!
You're absolutely right. I didn't mention anyone because I am starting with a clean slate - but most of all, I just want to remain open to the person who is most right for me. I am looking for a relationship based on mutual affection and respect. Maybe it's better than that no obvious Mr. Right is shown because it reflects this?
I've definitely been feeling out of sorts lately, like I have no control over anything. But it's good to hear that regardless, I will be in the right place at the right time.
Lol, the reading sounded so positive at the get go! But it looks like it turns out there are not too many supporting energies for a relationship to develop.
I'll keep my eyes open for the 'unlikely' ones.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this reading.
Minderwiz
11-06-2012, 21:21
Hello yet again Minderwiz!
.....for 6 months or a full year (whichever you feel might be more effective here), do I have any realistic romantic opportunites? I'm a male, btw.
Thanks again!
I''ll take it as six months.
This chart has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter and the possible partner by Mercury.
Jupiter is in Taurus in the fifth House of Romance, so it's clearly on your mind and Venus is a natural significator of women and romance. The fifth House is a good placement as it trines the Ascendant and is the 'House of Good Fortune'. Jupiter is direct and oriental (rising before the Sun, which is a good indicator) and as the Sun is setting and technically this is a night chart, Jupiter below the horizon is where it should be. That being said Jupiter is better in a day chart and in Taurus Jupiter is Peregrine, so whilst you are where you want to be in terms off being noticed you are going to struggle to make that placement work for you.
Mercury is in Cancer in the seventh House of the marriage partner. Now that does not mean she's going to fall into your lap....that would require Mercury to be in the first House and in reception to Jupiter. She's 'at home', However the good news is that Cancer is the sign of Jupiter's exaltation, so she certainly would not be averse to you in any way, quite the reverse, if you meet she will be very impressed. And here we have an odd situation. Jupiter (you) is not in any of the dignities of Mercury, so you would not have any positive feelings for her.
By sign Jupiter and Mercury are in sextile but they are at opposite ends of their respective signs, so by degree they are not in sextile, nor will they perfect any aspect to each other before they are aspected by other planets. So the meeting looks unlikely here.
There is no contact by antiscia between Mercury and Jupiter, nor does the Moon aspect either of these planets.
The Moon though does offer some hope. Using it as a second significator for you, it is currently in Cancer where it is ruled by Jupiter (and of course, the Moon rules Mercury). It's next aspect is to Mars in Virgo (ruled by Mercury) but by opposition. Mercury's next major aspect is a sextile to Mars, though again there is over 10 degrees separation between them, which is stretching the idea of collection of light (the Moon leaves her light with Mars and it is collected by the next planet aspecting Mars - Mercury This gives some hope that there will be a meeting but as the Moon is not in any dignity of Mercury, there;s still no indication that you will like her at all. Indeed the Moon is in the Sign, Terms and Face of Jupiter - it's concerned with you, not her.
I could use Venus as a second significator for her but Venus is retrograde in Gemini and makes no aspect to Jupiter and is in a separating conjunction with the Sun and a separating square with the Moon, so offers no promise.
Lastly I will look at the Lots relating to the marriage of Men. Of the three possibilities, two are in Sagittarius, ruled by Jupiter, the other is ruled by Venus These confirm that you have the relationship in mind but given that Jupiter is not in any dignity of Mercury, it seems that you are more interested in the idea than the person.
There's a chance that you may well meet someone but I think that she will be more impressed with you than you are with her and I don't see you wanting to start any relationship, even if you have the chance. If you do start one, I don't see it lasting - she just doesn't have what you are looking for.
EyeAmEye
12-06-2012, 00:37
I''ll take it as six months.
This chart has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter and the possible partner by Mercury.
Jupiter is in Taurus in the fifth House of Romance, so it's clearly on your mind and Venus is a natural significator of women and romance. The fifth House is a good placement as it trines the Ascendant and is the 'House of Good Fortune'. Jupiter is direct and oriental (rising before the Sun, which is a good indicator) and as the Sun is setting and technically this is a night chart, Jupiter below the horizon is where it should be. That being said Jupiter is better in a day chart and in Taurus Jupiter is Peregrine, so whilst you are where you want to be in terms off being noticed you are going to struggle to make that placement work for you.
Mercury is in Cancer in the seventh House of the marriage partner. Now that does not mean she's going to fall into your lap....that would require Mercury to be in the first House and in reception to Jupiter. She's 'at home', However the good news is that Cancer is the sign of Jupiter's exaltation, so she certainly would not be averse to you in any way, quite the reverse, if you meet she will be very impressed. And here we have an odd situation. Jupiter (you) is not in any of the dignities of Mercury, so you would not have any positive feelings for her.
By sign Jupiter and Mercury are in sextile but they are at opposite ends of their respective signs, so by degree they are not in sextile, nor will they perfect any aspect to each other before they are aspected by other planets. So the meeting looks unlikely here.
There is no contact by antiscia between Mercury and Jupiter, nor does the Moon aspect either of these planets.
The Moon though does offer some hope. Using it as a second significator for you, it is currently in Cancer where it is ruled by Jupiter (and of course, the Moon rules Mercury). It's next aspect is to Mars in Virgo (ruled by Mercury) but by opposition. Mercury's next major aspect is a sextile to Mars, though again there is over 10 degrees separation between them, which is stretching the idea of collection of light (the Moon leaves her light with Mars and it is collected by the next planet aspecting Mars - Mercury This gives some hope that there will be a meeting but as the Moon is not in any dignity of Mercury, there;s still no indication that you will like her at all. Indeed the Moon is in the Sign, Terms and Face of Jupiter - it's concerned with you, not her.
I could use Venus as a second significator for her but Venus is retrograde in Gemini and makes no aspect to Jupiter and is in a separating conjunction with the Sun and a separating square with the Moon, so offers no promise.
Lastly I will look at the Lots relating to the marriage of Men. Of the three possibilities, two are in Sagittarius, ruled by Jupiter, the other is ruled by Venus These confirm that you have the relationship in mind but given that Jupiter is not in any dignity of Mercury, it seems that you are more interested in the idea than the person.
There's a chance that you may well meet someone but I think that she will be more impressed with you than you are with her and I don't see you wanting to start any relationship, even if you have the chance. If you do start one, I don't see it lasting - she just doesn't have what you are looking for.
Being a self-admittedly very picky person, this is an entirely plausible scenario! For all I know, I could have numerous interested people and I would never have the slightest clue.
I do also have to agree with your assessment that perhaps I am more interested in the idea than an actual relationship or person. While you are correct that it is very much on my mind and has been for a while, it could be more of the "want what you don't have" phenomena, since it is the only part of my life for many years that is not in the order I wish it to be. Maybe that part of the puzzle is meant to be unsolved, at least for now.
The scenario you lay out is interesting however and it makes me want to be extra observant. Just trying to gauge your own opinion on the matter, do you think someone's awareness of a particular situation changes the perception? Since you stated a meeting is possible but I wouldn't have any positive feelings, could the knowledge of that alter my perception, making me more open to the possibility than I would have been had I not been expecting it?
To sum it up, your reading suggests the next 6 months plays out the same as always. Can't say I was expecting anything different.
Thank you as always for your reading, it is much appreciated!
Minderwiz
12-06-2012, 05:30
The scenario you lay out is interesting however and it makes me want to be extra observant. Just trying to gauge your own opinion on the matter, do you think someone's awareness of a particular situation changes the perception? Since you stated a meeting is possible but I wouldn't have any positive feelings, could the knowledge of that alter my perception, making me more open to the possibility than I would have been had I not been expecting it?
I don't think conscious awareness will alter the situation. You won't decide to have a romantic relationship with someone you're not attracted to simply to 'thwart' the prediction, nor will foreknowledge attract you to someone you don't find attractive.
However there is always the real chance that the prediction is wrong - let's hope so :-)
EyeAmEye
12-06-2012, 06:57
I don't think conscious awareness will alter the situation. You won't decide to have a romantic relationship with someone you're not attracted to simply to 'thwart' the prediction, nor will foreknowledge attract you to someone you don't find attractive.
However there is always the real chance that the prediction is wrong - let's hope so :-)
Hahaha...you don't know me...I might actually do something that stupid to prove someone wrong :)
You could be wrong, but you haven't been so far! Thanks again!
Minderwiz
15-06-2012, 06:07
hi are you still doing readings : will i buy a new property is my question
i need to sell my other house
time: lets say the next six months to be generous i hope sooner
i am looking to renovate in order to increase my income :investment
i also have a partner c
I've cast a chart for this question and then checking your response to my request for clarification, I realise that I am confused. :(
The original question refers to buying a new property but the clarification refers to a need to sell! Is the aim to use the funds from that sale to buy and renovate a completely new property and if so is all this to be done within six months?
Also what if any role will your partner play and (is he/she a business partner or a marital partner?)
I'll make some comments on the chart, simply to try and show what clarifications I need to give you a precise answer.
The chart has Sagittarius rising which means that you are signified by Jupiter which has just entered Gemini and is in the sixth House, which is of itself not a good placement. Jupiter is not without some dignity - it's in it's own Face. However that's not a lot to shout about. The first degree of a sign suggests that a move is imminent or has just taken place, so a move is in the cards. However the sixth house is a weak placement, and together with Jupiter's low essential dignity this is more likely to be a move that is forced by circumstances rather than planned and controlled.
The House (either bought or sold) is/will be part of your fixed property - your real estate. This is signified by the ruler of the fourth House, which is Mars in Gemini.(Mars rules Aries on the IC). Mars in Gemini has no dignity of it's own and so there is some real doubt about the condition of the property. Placed in the ninth Mars is in a fairly good position, so the House is in a reasonably desirable location - not the best (Mars would need to be angular or even the second level (11th and 5th) but it is not in an undesirable location and so at the right price would probably sell Given doubts about the structural condition of the property, it either needs money spending on it or there has to be a hefty discount for a fast sale.
Now Saturn on the MC opposes the fourth cusp, and this suggests even more problems. Saturn can represent delays, it is a natural significator of time and hence delay and it's a natural significator of structure - which given that the structure is already in question is not good news.
Now we come to the difficult bit. If you are selling you have to decide on that price discount against the need to sell. If you are buying, then the price issue can work both ways. You might get a discount but if you need to move quickly then you might be faced with a price which is more than the property is worth.
The other person in the transaction would normally be given the seventh House, which would make Mercury their significator. But you have mentioned a partner - who would also normally be given the seventh. As it can't be shared, I'll use Mercury for the buyer/seller (depending on whether you are buying or selling) and the Sun for your partner. (the Sun being in the seventh and in it's own Face).
Mercury is better placed than Jupiter in the chart and also has some dignity by Face. In a negotiation they are likely to be the stronger - though both of you are not strong, they at least may not need the sale as much as you do.
Interestingly, Saturn rules the second house - your financial resources, and if these are to be taken into consideration, then a new dimension is added to Saturn's opposition to the IC - you may find that the house is not good for your money - it will cost you much more than you hope to benefit, whether that is getting ready to sell it, or ready to buy it. Your finances are though in good condition in terms of this sale so the decision is going to come down to your feelings about the additional costs.
However the over-riding problem is that Jupiter is not going to make any aspect to Mercury, so it's very unlikely that there will be a sale. So the provisional answer is No, you will not be able to buy a new property or sell the other house in the time frame that you have cited.
It's quite possible I've not fully understood your question, so if that is the case I'm, only too pleased to read following a further clarification.
Key things:
Is the question focused on the purchase of a new property or a sale of the existing property - even if the two are linked (you need to sell one to buy the other), the issue is whiere is the focus of the question.
The second issue is what role, if any, does your partner play. If they are not involved in the process, I can use the Sun to examine the financial resources of the other party to the transaction.
daisy chain
15-06-2012, 06:42
I've cast a chart for this question and then checking your response to my request for clarification, I realise that I am confused. :(
The original question refers to buying a new property but the clarification refers to a need to sell! Is the aim to use the funds from that sale to buy and renovate a completely new property and if so is all this to be done within six months?
Also what if any role will your partner play and (is he/she a business partner or a marital partner?)
I'll make some comments on the chart, simply to try and show what clarifications I need to give you a precise answer.
The chart has Sagittarius rising which means that you are signified by Jupiter which has just entered Gemini and is in the sixth House, which is of itself not a good placement. Jupiter is not without some dignity - it's in it's own Face. However that's not a lot to shout about. The first degree of a sign suggests that a move is imminent or has just taken place, so a move is in the cards. However the sixth house is a weak placement, and together with Jupiter's low essential dignity this is more likely to be a move that is forced by circumstances rather than planned and controlled.
The House (either bought or sold) is/will be part of your fixed property - your real estate. This is signified by the ruler of the fourth House, which is Mars in Gemini.(Mars rules Aries on the IC). Mars in Gemini has no dignity of it's own and so there is some real doubt about the condition of the property. Placed in the ninth Mars is in a fairly good position, so the House is in a reasonably desirable location - not the best (Mars would need to be angular or even the second level (11th and 5th) but it is not in an undesirable location and so at the right price would probably sell Given doubts about the structural condition of the property, it either needs money spending on it or there has to be a hefty discount for a fast sale.
Now Saturn on the MC opposes the fourth cusp, and this suggests even more problems. Saturn can represent delays, it is a natural significator of time and hence delay and it's a natural significator of structure - which given that the structure is already in question is not good news.
Now we come to the difficult bit. If you are selling you have to decide on that price discount against the need to sell. If you are buying, then the price issue can work both ways. You might get a discount but if you need to move quickly then you might be faced with a price which is more than the property is worth.
The other person in the transaction would normally be given the seventh House, which would make Mercury their significator. But you have mentioned a partner - who would also normally be given the seventh. As it can't be shared, I'll use Mercury for the buyer/seller (depending on whether you are buying or selling) and the Sun for your partner. (the Sun being in the seventh and in it's own Face).
Mercury is better placed than Jupiter in the chart and also has some dignity by Face. In a negotiation they are likely to be the stronger - though both of you are not strong, they at least may not need the sale as much as you do.
Interestingly, Saturn rules the second house - your financial resources, and if these are to be taken into consideration, then a new dimension is added to Saturn's opposition to the IC - you may find that the house is not good for your money - it will cost you much more than you hope to benefit, whether that is getting ready to sell it, or ready to buy it. Your finances are though in good condition in terms of this sale so the decision is going to come down to your feelings about the additional costs.
However the over-riding problem is that Jupiter is not going to make any aspect to Mercury, so it's very unlikely that there will be a sale. So the provisional answer is No, you will not be able to buy a new property or sell the other house in the time frame that you have cited.
It's quite possible I've not fully understood your question, so if that is the case I'm, only too pleased to read following a further clarification.
Key things:
Is the question focused on the purchase of a new property or a sale of the existing property - even if the two are linked (you need to sell one to buy the other), the issue is whiere is the focus of the question.
The second issue is what role, if any, does your partner play. If they are not involved in the process, I can use the Sun to examine the financial resources of the other party to the transaction.
your assessment of the property was spot on : however the repairs will be affordible unless there are added cost ; and i want a quick sale so i expect to discount as for your assessment on location is excellent
but yes i was more wondering on the property that i would be buying ;
more then the disposal of my present property
although what you say make me pause:
also my partners financial contribution
we were romantically involved which does sometimes complicate our working relationship
he is to contribute with work helping with the renovations: an raising financing
we are both Pisces so Jupiter is in our house of property which may strengthen our position
thanks so much for the reading
Thanks for the feedback,
I can see that you have some positive feelings for him, but I don't think these are reciprocated to anything like the same extent. However time may well heal things in the longer term. I wish you all the best in your attempts to re-ignite things :)
Thought I would give you an update on the situation. He did get in contact with me again today. Apparently he was taking some time to himself to think things through, and neglected to inform me of this. He is coming back next week, and we did choose to rekindle things between the two of us.
I know that this month there are some major aspects going on in the skies, so I made a chart for the exact time that he contacted me today wanting to reunite. Can I read the chart like a synastry chart with my natal chart against it, and his natal chart against it? Also, since he sent the message from a different location than the one that I am currently at, would I put in the location the message was sent from and the time the message was sent to compare it? Rather than in the location I received the message?
Minderwiz
20-06-2012, 17:57
Thought I would give you an update on the situation. He did get in contact with me again today. Apparently he was taking some time to himself to think things through, and neglected to inform me of this. He is coming back next week, and we did choose to rekindle things between the two of us.
I know that this month there are some major aspects going on in the skies, so I made a chart for the exact time that he contacted me today wanting to reunite. Can I read the chart like a synastry chart with my natal chart against it, and his natal chart against it? Also, since he sent the message from a different location than the one that I am currently at, would I put in the location the message was sent from and the time the message was sent to compare it? Rather than in the location I received the message?
Well perhaps his thought are changing...but take things slowly at least to begin with.
The chart is an event chart and as such can stand alone , though you can also see it as a moment in your relationship. It describes the moment he contacted you, so it gives his feelings at that moment and your reaction to them.
You are first house, he is seventh the position and condition of the rulers and any planets in those houses plus any aspects to them are what you are concerned with.
At a secondary level the transits of the event chart to your natal chart and solar and possibly lunar return chart will add some more context.
Minderwiz
21-06-2012, 03:21
Hi Minderwiz
Are you still doing readings?
I have a big birthday on Monday, turning 30. I am wondering how my love life will develop in the next 6 months. Let me know if you need any more information, if you're up for this reading. Thanks!
From further discussion the question relates to a long term relationship developing over the next six months.
The chart has Leo rising so your significator is the Sun. The Sun is in the last degree of Gemini where it has dignity by Face but it is clearly venturing into new territory in Cancer, where it has no dignity. The Sun is placed in the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations and clearly these dominate your current thinking. Generally I take your priorities from the dignities that your significator is in. Mercury rules Gemini and the eleventh House so those hopes and aspirations come first. There's no exaltation ruler in Gemini so the next occupied dignity is the Air triplicity and during the day, this is ruled by Saturn. In your chart Saturn signifies the hoped for relationship - the significant other. So this clearly describes the situation in the question. Indeed it is reinforced by the Sun being in the Terms of Saturn as well, so the relationship goes up to be alongside those hopes in terms of your priorities. The last dignity is Face and, as already said the Sun is in it's own Face so you have your own needs in those priorities.
Saturn signifies the romantic interest and Saturn is in Libra in the third House, By sign Saturn is exalted but by position and other conditions he is not particularly good. Saturn is Retrograde and the third House position is towards the bottom of the list, with only the twelfth/sixth and eighth/second axes giving worse placements. But the third House does sextile the Ascendant, So he's a potentially good catch (so to speak) but not as good as he might be - perhaps he needs some TLC :)
Now for the relationship to come off we really need some contact between Sun and Saturn. However with Sun at the end of Gemini and Saturn at 22 Libra and retrograde, you're heading in different directions.
So is there any way that the relationship can still be effected. There's no contact of Sun and Saturn by antiscia, so the next step is to examine the Moon. The Moon can be used as a significator for either you or him. The last major aspect made by the Moon was to the Sun by conjunction and it's next major aspect will be to Mercury by conjunction and Saturn by trine. Ideally Moon aspecting Saturn would be what we want but whilst Mercury and Saturn are both in the 22nd degree, Mercury is slightly earlier, so Mercury is likely to prohibit the relationship. As Mercury signifies your hopes and aspirations, I think this is more likely to mean that if you meet the significant other of this chart, you are likely to be disappointed and you won't see him matching those expectations.
So it's possible that someone (the Moon) may bring you and a guy together but you don't particularly take to him or you get put off by a photo of him before a possible meeting or something similar.
Saturn is in the Fall of the Sun, so It's very possible that this significant other doesn't take to you and it might be that that leads to him not meeting your expectations.
For a marriage, Lilly looks at the Sun (for hime) and Venus (for her) IF they are available. The Sun can't be used here, because it's already in use for you as a significator. If I used Venus for you as an additional significator, it would not really help. Venus is retrograde and approaching it's station. So whilst Saturn and Venus are trine by sign, they are not applying to an aspect.
Neither do the Lots of Marriage offer any hope, only one is ruled by a significator - Saturn and this Lot is opposed by the Moon.
So, you might meet someone, who intially seems to be what you are looking for but something is likely to put you off him, either he doesn't measure up when you meet, or what you learn about him puts you off.
Sorry I can't offer more, but whilst there's some promise it would mean that you have to overcome an adverse first reaction and perhaps even a little hostility or lack of interest from him.
Minderwiz
22-06-2012, 21:57
Hey,
thank you for offering readings!
Something came up and I would like to change my question - could you please take a look into developing my practice? I offer counseling and I would like to offer also some energy work. Will I be successful in my practice in the next coming year, also financially?
Thanks so much
love
wind
The chart (attached) has Libra rising, so your significator is Venus. Initially I thought I would have to abandon this chart as Saturn is in the first House and that can give dodgy readings. However two things lead me to accept the chart as valid. Firstly Saturn is in Libra, where it's in exaltation and it's also the Triplicity ruler for the air houses, so it's highly dignified and so less malefic. Saturn is also the Planetary Hour Ruler for the chart and it's a sign that the chart is valid if the Ascendant planetary hour ruler agree.
As the question is about your career (practise) this is signified by the ruler of the tenth House, which is the Moon.
Firstly, you. Venus is in Gemini retrograde and less than a week from it's station. So it's not in particularly good condition. With no essential dignity of it's own, this indicates that you are likely to need the help and guidance over your development plans. You might also find it difficult to move in the right direction and feel bogged down. Given Saturn as Venus' triplicity ruler, you probably need help in structuring your plans. Another difficulty is that Venus is close to the South Node, which is seen as unfortunate. However Venus will not complete the conjunction, stationing Direct without moving much closer. So at worst I see this as only temporary difficulties. Stationing Direct suggests that things will slowly improve, it would be worse if Venus was about to station Retrograde.
By House placement, Venus is not bad. The ninth House rules prophecy, Astrology, dreams, and counselling (both legal and therapeutic). So you are in the right place for getting noticed.
The Practise is signified by the Moon and that's in a good condition. The Moon is in Cancer, in the tenth and rules the tenth. Indeed it could not really be better placed for this question (though the Moon out in daytime is not usually a good sign). The Moon is also at the beginning of it's waxing phase - the practise will grow. The Moon is a natural significator of women, the public, instincts and the non-ratonal mind. It's a good significator of any practise which intends to address emotional, and hidden issues - both shedding light on them but also in a way that is not glaring or dazzling. It's the light of inner feelings rather than the searchlight of reason.
The Moon is applying to a conjunction with Mercury. Mercury rules the eleventh House and is also the dispositor of Venus. As Mercury is in Cancer and the tenth, this again stresses the links between the Practise and you and your plans.
So far, it's you getting yourself set up and with proper advice and support that needs to be addressed, the practice will take care of itself under those circumstances.
Your finances are ruled by the second House, and this too has it's cusp in Libra. Given that I've used Venus for you, and there are no planets in the second, this is another place where Saturn comes in. As the exaltation ruler and triplicity ruler it actually has more dignity in Libra than Venus. It's also within 5 degrees of the second cusp, so it could be treated as second House in placement (another reason why don't see it as a malefic influence in the first). Saturn is in excellent condition in terms of it's essential dignity, so your finances will be sound. However being retrograde suggests that there may be some adverse financial issues, probably as a result of heading in the wrong direction. The square between Saturn and the Moon also suggest tensions between the practise and your finances.
My overall conclusion is that the practise is sound and will grow. Your finances may come under a strain but nothing that will disrupt them entirely. This strain is likely to be the result of heading in the wrong direction or spending money on things that don't fit in with the plans. The key issue is you and getting things exactly right to be the key to the practise.
Check things through, get some advice and support on the business front if nothing else. If the energy work is a new addition to your practice then that really does need checking, to make sure that will not be the problem area, both in terms of the business plan and you being up to speed with it in the context of customer needs.
The long term view is good - I don't see any failure here if you take the right steps, and if you do this practise will grow without difficulty.
Minderwiz
24-06-2012, 08:30
Hi Minderwiz,
What a generous offer, thankyou. If you are up for another sitter, I would like to sit please.
My focus is romance (surprise). Up until a week ago it was all set that my partner and I would move in together, start the next part of our "journey" together. It all came to a screeching halt and I now find myself somewhat rudderless. You know when you believe and plan that things are going to be one way and the rug is pulled out from under your feet and you find yourself asking "what happened there? What now?"
So my question would be is there any indication that we will indeed, within the future (6 months max) do as originally planned and take our relationship that next step and move in together?
Thanks Poly
The chart cast has Libra rising, so you are signified by Venus. Venus is in Gemini, where she has no essential dignity - this suggests that at the moment you are vulnerable and feel powerless to influence the outcome significantly. This matches your description in the question so it seems that the significator is appropriate. In terms of accidental dignity, Venus' house placement is in the ninth, which is a good placement. The ninth is associated with travel, long journeys, spiritual growth and dreams. You used the phrase 'our journey' and clearly the chart shows that you are ready for a spiritual and lifetime journey. Venus is slow and retrograde, which raises the question as to whether you're looking in the right direction. Within a few days Venus will station direct - a time for reappraisal of the situation and a 'literal' change of direction.]
Your partner is signified by Mars, ruler of Aries. Mars is in Virgo, where it has dignity by Terms, not a strong dignity but he's essentially stronger than you - so the outcome may well rest on his actions. Mars is in the twelfth House - not a good position because it is 'not seen' by the Ascendant and at the moment he's not seen by you - at least in terms of realising the plans. Cuirrently Mars is Faster than Venus and also direct - so he's heading away from you.
Will the plans be realised?
There are several tests available, a positive answer to any one is suggestive of success. The first is whether there's a major aspect developing between Mars and Venus. The answer to this is no.
The second test is the actions of the Moon. The Moon can act as significator for either you or him in the horary. The last aspect made by the Moon was to Venus by sextile. Now if the Moon's next aspect was to Mars, then this would suggest a good outcome. The Moon in Leo is in the next sign, although a semi-sextile is forming this is too weak an aspect to suggest success. We really need a major aspect.
The third test is to see if there is contact by antisicia. That is the two significators lie an equal distance from the solstice line (Cancer - Capricorn) but on opposite sides. Moon and Mars are on the same side and Venus is not far enough away from 0 Cancer to balance the Leo and Virgo positions of Mars or the Moon. This too suggests a 'no' answer.
The fourth test is to look at the natural marriage significators of Sun for him and Venus for you. Venus is already mentioned as it is the Ascendant ruler. There's no major aspect forming at the momen, indeed with the Sun now in Cancer, there's no major aspect likely at all.
All of these suggest a 'No' answer to your question.
I would have expected Venus to be in one of the dignities of Mars, but the chart does not show that. However Mars is in the Triplicity of Venus, so he does have feelings for you and reasonably strong ones at that.
Looking at the three Marriage Lots for Women, which give some more detail - One is ruled by Venus and is very close to the Ascendant - which shows your focus on the relationship - this is the Valens Lot which gives an indication of happiness - it certainly shows your desire for it.
The second - the Lot of Marriage which also applies to Men as well, is ruled by Saturn, and lies in the fifth House of romance and fun. This lot is the most commonly used one and given that Saturn is in Libra where is is in exaltation, is a good indicator. Indeed Saturn also lies in the first House and so has a direct connection with you.
The third and final lot, the so called Alternative Lot, shows where marriages might come under stress. For you this Lot lies in Scorpio and is ruled by Mars - your partner. All three Lots are connected to either you or him. This is promising. but the Marriage stress one being ruled by Mars suggests either the obvious - he is the cause of current stress, or that he feels stressed by the situation and needs to be on his own and away from you to think things through. He's got cold feet in other words.
Interestingly, of the two Lots specifically for Men in this chart, Venus rules the Lot of Marriage for Men (and Venus is your significator) and the Alterntive Lot, although ruled by Mercury, lies in the Terms of Venus.
So I don't see this being sorted out and you living together within the next six months, unless there's a significant change. However I do see that he cares for you, and the Lots of Marriage keep coming back to the significators of you and him (or planets in your first House). So the underlying feeling is that this will ultimately work out.
Being confrontational will not help, Venus is without essential power to act. All you can do is give him time and hope that he eventually makes contact (I think he will). Again if he's getting cold feet or something else has come up that he was unable to talk about, confrontation won't work. He has to return willingly, even if that means putting off the plans for a while.
Two final observations.
The first is that I would have expected Venus to be in a dignity of Mars, that is clear indication that you care for him and that's missing. It may be a reflection of your current state of mind, or it might be that simply asking the question is evidence enough. But I do think you need to use the Venus station, to reflect on your feelings and if you're still certain he's the one, then when he makes contact, take things up again but without pressuring him, if it was cold feet.
The second is that Saturn in the first is sometimes seen as leading to a reading that might not work out and many Astrologers choose not to accept such a chart for a question. I've gone ahead here, because Saturn is dignified in Libra and indeed is stronger than Venus in Libra in a day chart, as Saturn is both Exaltation and Triplicity ruler. However Saturn is Retrograde and at best I'd say that might slow things down.
Sorry I can't be more optimistic on this chart but I can see a future for you both if you get this sorted. It probably will take longer than six months, your question is 'should you wait?' On this chart I'd say give him a chance.
From further discussion the question relates to a long term relationship developing over the next six months.
The chart has Leo rising so your significator is the Sun. The Sun is in the last degree of Gemini where it has dignity by Face but it is clearly venturing into new territory in Cancer, where it has no dignity. The Sun is placed in the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations and clearly these dominate your current thinking. Generally I take your priorities from the dignities that your significator is in. Mercury rules Gemini and the eleventh House so those hopes and aspirations come first. There's no exaltation ruler in Gemini so the next occupied dignity is the Air triplicity and during the day, this is ruled by Saturn. In your chart Saturn signifies the hoped for relationship - the significant other. So this clearly describes the situation in the question. Indeed it is reinforced by the Sun being in the Terms of Saturn as well, so the relationship goes up to be alongside those hopes in terms of your priorities. The last dignity is Face and, as already said the Sun is in it's own Face so you have your own needs in those priorities.
Thanks for the reading Minderwiz! Yes, I had hopes and aspirations that I would be re-married by now or at least be in a committed relationship. So turning 30 was a milestone in itself but also it reminded me of what I haven't been able to "accomplish" for myself but also the things that I have instead.
Turning 30 reminded me that I am still young, so those hopes and aspirations haven't expired. I think that I am being taught patience :rolleyes: :laugh:
Saturn signifies the romantic interest and Saturn is in Libra in the third House, By sign Saturn is exalted but by position and other conditions he is not particularly good. Saturn is Retrograde and the third House position is towards the bottom of the list, with only the twelfth/sixth and eighth/second axes giving worse placements. But the third House does sextile the Ascendant, So he's a potentially good catch (so to speak) but not as good as he might be - perhaps he needs some TLC :)
Now for the relationship to come off we really need some contact between Sun and Saturn. However with Sun at the end of Gemini and Saturn at 22 Libra and retrograde, you're heading in different directions.
"He" being the potential SO? So, will I be meeting him in the next 6? BUT we'll be heading in different directions? :(
So is there any way that the relationship can still be effected. There's no contact of Sun and Saturn by antiscia, so the next step is to examine the Moon. The Moon can be used as a significator for either you or him. The last major aspect made by the Moon was to the Sun by conjunction and it's next major aspect will be to Mercury by conjunction and Saturn by trine. Ideally Moon aspecting Saturn would be what we want but whilst Mercury and Saturn are both in the 22nd degree, Mercury is slightly earlier, so Mercury is likely to prohibit the relationship. As Mercury signifies your hopes and aspirations, I think this is more likely to mean that if you meet the significant other of this chart, you are likely to be disappointed and you won't see him matching those expectations.
So it's possible that someone (the Moon) may bring you and a guy together but you don't particularly take to him or you get put off by a photo of him before a possible meeting or something similar.
Saturn is in the Fall of the Sun, so It's very possible that this significant other doesn't take to you and it might be that that leads to him not meeting your expectations.
Oh bummer ...
For a marriage, Lilly looks at the Sun (for hime) and Venus (for her) IF they are available. The Sun can't be used here, because it's already in use for you as a significator. If I used Venus for you as an additional significator, it would not really help. Venus is retrograde and approaching it's station. So whilst Saturn and Venus are trine by sign, they are not applying to an aspect.
Neither do the Lots of Marriage offer any hope, only one is ruled by a significator - Saturn and this Lot is opposed by the Moon.
So, you might meet someone, who intially seems to be what you are looking for but something is likely to put you off him, either he doesn't measure up when you meet, or what you learn about him puts you off.
Sorry I can't offer more, but whilst there's some promise it would mean that you have to overcome an adverse first reaction and perhaps even a little hostility or lack of interest from him.
Ha! Ok, I can't give you any more feedback due to the fact that this is a prediction BUT I promise to check back with you during the next 6 through Christmas to let you know how all this pans out. While a little part of me hopes that you are wrong, you are more than likely. Cards keep telling me that I need to have patience, so it wont be anytime soon for a long-term relationship to come to fruition.
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this reading for me! I do appreciate it greatly!
Hi Minderwitz,
thank you very much for this very insightful reading!
The chart (attached) has Libra rising, so your significator is Venus. Initially I thought I would have to abandon this chart as Saturn is in the first House and that can give dodgy readings. However two things lead me to accept the chart as valid. Firstly Saturn is in Libra, where it's in exaltation and it's also the Triplicity ruler for the air houses, so it's highly dignified and so less malefic. Saturn is also the Planetary Hour Ruler for the chart and it's a sign that the chart is valid if the Ascendant planetary hour ruler agree.
As the question is about your career (practise) this is signified by the ruler of the tenth House, which is the Moon.
Firstly, you. Venus is in Gemini retrograde and less than a week from it's station. So it's not in particularly good condition. With no essential dignity of it's own, this indicates that you are likely to need the help and guidance over your development plans. You might also find it difficult to move in the right direction and feel bogged down. Given Saturn as Venus' triplicity ruler, you probably need help in structuring your plans. Another difficulty is that Venus is close to the South Node, which is seen as unfortunate. However Venus will not complete the conjunction, stationing Direct without moving much closer. So at worst I see this as only temporary difficulties. Stationing Direct suggests that things will slowly improve, it would be worse if Venus was about to station Retrograde.
By House placement, Venus is not bad. The ninth House rules prophecy, Astrology, dreams, and counselling (both legal and therapeutic). So you are in the right place for getting noticed.
Ok, this sounds good:) In fact, yes, I have been trying to get noticed, for people to get to know me. I am writing articles for a magazine and this way coming out, to the public. It is true that things are developing very slowly.
The Practise is signified by the Moon and that's in a good condition. The Moon is in Cancer, in the tenth and rules the tenth. Indeed it could not really be better placed for this question (though the Moon out in daytime is not usually a good sign). The Moon is also at the beginning of it's waxing phase - the practise will grow. The Moon is a natural significator of women, the public, instincts and the non-ratonal mind. It's a good significator of any practise which intends to address emotional, and hidden issues - both shedding light on them but also in a way that is not glaring or dazzling. It's the light of inner feelings rather than the searchlight of reason.
This sound really beautiful and indeed, I work with feelings, I help people discover what is going on, also providing care.
The Moon is applying to a conjunction with Mercury. Mercury rules the eleventh House and is also the dispositor of Venus. As Mercury is in Cancer and the tenth, this again stresses the links between the Practise and you and your plans.
So far, it's you getting yourself set up and with proper advice and support that needs to be addressed, the practice will take care of itself under those circumstances.
Good:)
Your finances are ruled by the second House, and this too has it's cusp in Libra. Given that I've used Venus for you, and there are no planets in the second, this is another place where Saturn comes in. As the exaltation ruler and triplicity ruler it actually has more dignity in Libra than Venus. It's also within 5 degrees of the second cusp, so it could be treated as second House in placement (another reason why don't see it as a malefic influence in the first). Saturn is in excellent condition in terms of it's essential dignity, so your finances will be sound. However being retrograde suggests that there may be some adverse financial issues, probably as a result of heading in the wrong direction. The square between Saturn and the Moon also suggest tensions between the practise and your finances.
Usually I am underpayed, it is very difficult for me to charge people and I usually give more energy than I am payed for. I would need to work on that not to become exhausted.
My overall conclusion is that the practise is sound and will grow. Your finances may come under a strain but nothing that will disrupt them entirely. This strain is likely to be the result of heading in the wrong direction or spending money on things that don't fit in with the plans. The key issue is you and getting things exactly right to be the key to the practise.
This is good advice, I should know how much to charge. Also, I need to invest a lot of money still in learning – I am still expanding my knowledge, so a lot of money is spent because of that, causing constant stress and worry.
Check things through, get some advice and support on the business front if nothing else. If the energy work is a new addition to your practice then that really does need checking, to make sure that will not be the problem area, both in terms of the business plan and you being up to speed with it in the context of customer needs.
The long term view is good - I don't see any failure here if you take the right steps, and if you do this practise will grow without difficulty.
Yes, the energy work is a new addition, but I am going very slowly, for now just tesing the waters…and still learning. Also, now I am being advertised as a certain type of councellor, adding energy work will need to be done carefully, since it is a different type of practice.
But I am very happy to see that things will progress.
Thank you again, this is very encouraging!
love
wind
Minderwiz
24-06-2012, 23:05
"He" being the potential SO? So, will I be meeting him in the next 6? BUT we'll be heading in different directions?
Thank you so much for taking the time to do this reading for me! I do appreciate it greatly!
Yes 'he' is the potential SO. I can't tell whether there will definitely be a physical meeting, it might simply be an exchange of details, either directly or via friends/website/etc. There's a variety of actual scenarios which could fit, but I feel you and/or possibly him will decide not to pursue things. The different directions are not necessarily physical. They could well be personal goals, for example he doesn't want a long term relationship at the moment.
Yes 'he' is the potential SO. I can't tell whether there will definitely be a physical meeting, it might simply be an exchange of details, either directly or via friends/website/etc. There's a variety of actual scenarios which could fit, but I feel you and/or possibly him will decide not to pursue things. The different directions are not necessarily physical. They could well be personal goals, for example he doesn't want a long term relationship at the moment.
I see ... ok, thank you Minderwiz ... I so promise to get back to you on this :)
Polyhymnia
27-06-2012, 18:45
Hello Minderwiz,
My apologies it has taken me so long to respond to your reading. Thank you so much. I understand a lot of time has gone into the detail here, and my tardy reply is not a reflection of my unappreciation! Just bogged down this end :)
The chart cast has Libra rising, so you are signified by Venus. Venus is in Gemini, where she has no essential dignity - this suggests that at the moment you are vulnerable and feel powerless to influence the outcome significantly. This matches your description in the question so it seems that the significator is appropriate. In terms of accidental dignity, Venus' house placement is in the ninth, which is a good placement. The ninth is associated with travel, long journeys, spiritual growth and dreams. You used the phrase 'our journey' and clearly the chart shows that you are ready for a spiritual and lifetime journey. Venus is slow and retrograde, which raises the question as to whether you're looking in the right direction. Within a few days Venus will station direct - a time for reappraisal of the situation and a 'literal' change of direction.
I do indeed feel vulnerable and very frustrated by the powerlessness I have in the outcome! This has been an incredible Journey, that has been slow, well thought out, well discussed, that has brought us to the point we are at now. I have a query about Venus going direct, which will be below.
Your partner is signified by Mars, ruler of Aries. Mars is in Virgo, where it has dignity by Terms, not a strong dignity but he's essentially stronger than you - so the outcome may well rest on his actions. Mars is in the twelfth House - not a good position because it is 'not seen' by the Ascendant and at the moment he's not seen by you - at least in terms of realising the plans. Cuirrently Mars is Faster than Venus and also direct - so he's heading away from you.
The outcome, at this moment in time, does rely solely on his actions. Lol, he is soo not seen by me. I have lost faith a little that we will realise our plans one day.
Will the plans be realised?
There are several tests available, a positive answer to any one is suggestive of success. The first is whether there's a major aspect developing between Mars and Venus. The answer to this is no.
The second test is the actions of the Moon. The Moon can act as significator for either you or him in the horary. The last aspect made by the Moon was to Venus by sextile. Now if the Moon's next aspect was to Mars, then this would suggest a good outcome. The Moon in Leo is in the next sign, although a semi-sextile is forming this is too weak an aspect to suggest success. We really need a major aspect.
The third test is to see if there is contact by antisicia. That is the two significators lie an equal distance from the solstice line (Cancer - Capricorn) but on opposite sides. Moon and Mars are on the same side and Venus is not far enough away from 0 Cancer to balance the Leo and Virgo positions of Mars or the Moon. This too suggests a 'no' answer.
The fourth test is to look at the natural marriage significators of Sun for him and Venus for you. Venus is already mentioned as it is the Ascendant ruler. There's no major aspect forming at the momen, indeed with the Sun now in Cancer, there's no major aspect likely at all.
All of these suggest a 'No' answer to your question.
I believe that it will take time to turn the tables yet again, to the point where this can be a reality.
I would have expected Venus to be in one of the dignities of Mars, but the chart does not show that. However Mars is in the Triplicity of Venus, so he does have feelings for you and reasonably strong ones at that.
That I do not question, I know he does :)
Looking at the three Marriage Lots for Women, which give some more detail - One is ruled by Venus and is very close to the Ascendant - which shows your focus on the relationship - this is the Valens Lot which gives an indication of happiness - it certainly shows your desire for it.
Yes, I do. And when he is not looking for ways/reasons to run away, there is magic.
The second - the Lot of Marriage which also applies to Men as well, is ruled by Saturn, and lies in the fifth House of romance and fun. This lot is the most commonly used one and given that Saturn is in Libra where is is in exaltation, is a good indicator. Indeed Saturn also lies in the first House and so has a direct connection with you.
The third and final lot, the so called Alternative Lot, shows where marriages might come under stress. For you this Lot lies in Scorpio and is ruled by Mars - your partner. All three Lots are connected to either you or him. This is promising. but the Marriage stress one being ruled by Mars suggests either the obvious - he is the cause of current stress, or that he feels stressed by the situation and needs to be on his own and away from you to think things through. He's got cold feet in other words.
He does have cold feet. Very. Twice he has stepped up to the line and twice he has done a very fast backward flip. He is under a lot of stress, which is attributing to his cold feet. Some of the stress is caused by worrying about the what if's, instead of letting things unfold and dealing with what may or may not come up.
Interestingly, of the two Lots specifically for Men in this chart, Venus rules the Lot of Marriage for Men (and Venus is your significator) and the Alterntive Lot, although ruled by Mercury, lies in the Terms of Venus.
So I don't see this being sorted out and you living together within the next six months, unless there's a significant change. However I do see that he cares for you, and the Lots of Marriage keep coming back to the significators of you and him (or planets in your first House). So the underlying feeling is that this will ultimately work out.
Thank you, I hope it does work out.
Being confrontational will not help, Venus is without essential power to act. All you can do is give him time and hope that he eventually makes contact (I think he will). Again if he's getting cold feet or something else has come up that he was unable to talk about, confrontation won't work. He has to return willingly, even if that means putting off the plans for a while.
I have not been confrontational, I was in too much shock to be anything other than very upset. He has as much time as I am prepared to give him :) And, he is still very much around. He finds excuses to visit or phone, although as "friends". He won't discuss any thing to do with his feelings for me, and I understand that is his way of coping with the cold feet.
Two final observations.
The first is that I would have expected Venus to be in a dignity of Mars, that is clear indication that you care for him and that's missing. It may be a reflection of your current state of mind, or it might be that simply asking the question is evidence enough. But I do think you need to use the Venus station, to reflect on your feelings and if you're still certain he's the one, then when he makes contact, take things up again but without pressuring him, if it was cold feet.
I care very much for him. As I mentioned earlier, I have been in a state of shock and been totally numb the last weeks. It is only the last 24 hours that I am starting to feel more in control, and I have not wept :D Hope it lasts!
The second is that Saturn in the first is sometimes seen as leading to a reading that might not work out and many Astrologers choose not to accept such a chart for a question. I've gone ahead here, because Saturn is dignified in Libra and indeed is stronger than Venus in Libra in a day chart, as Saturn is both Exaltation and Triplicity ruler. However Saturn is Retrograde and at best I'd say that might slow things down.
Lol, that's my Capricorn. Slow.
Sorry I can't be more optimistic on this chart but I can see a future for you both if you get this sorted. It probably will take longer than six months, your question is 'should you wait?' On this chart I'd say give him a chance.
In regards to 'when' it happen, that ball is in his court. The 'if', well that is in both our courts. He has let me down, hugely, twice and that I will be keeping account on in the future. I could not cope with it happening a third time! But, for the moment time is on his side, and we will see what happens.
Now for my question; If I understand correctly, the chart is drawn, at the time the question was posed. So your reading was based on the time of my question, or the time you did the reading? (The two times would probably have refelcted the same info as the situation at both those times was pretty much the same?). So in lieu of the fact that Venus has just gone direct, the general planet shift, and we are now a couple of weeks further down the track, the reading would be different?
I am interested in finding out more about Horary charts and how to make them and read them, so if you can steer me in the direction of some good reading (internet or other) I would really appreciate it. I did see a thread of your's here where the querents participated. I will have a good read through and see what I can glean there.
Minderwiz, again thankyou for the time you have put into my reading. It is very accurate, and here's hoping that the outcome will be "happy ever after together" :)
Minderwiz
28-06-2012, 05:10
Now for my question; If I understand correctly, the chart is drawn, at the time the question was posed. So your reading was based on the time of my question, or the time you did the reading? (The two times would probably have refelcted the same info as the situation at both those times was pretty much the same?). So in lieu of the fact that Venus has just gone direct, the general planet shift, and we are now a couple of weeks further down the track, the reading would be different?
I am interested in finding out more about Horary charts and how to make them and read them, so if you can steer me in the direction of some good reading (internet or other) I would really appreciate it. I did see a thread of your's here where the querents participated. I will have a good read through and see what I can glean there.
Minderwiz, again thankyou for the time you have put into my reading. It is very accurate, and here's hoping that the outcome will be "happy ever after together" :)
Thanks for your very detailed feedback, it's very much appreciated!
Strictly speaking the Astrologer should cast the chart for the time that he or she understands the question. In this case, I did a double check with you about the relationship but given the number of readings in hand, I didn't cast the chart till I got to 'your turn' and re-read the question to ensure that I really did understand it.
In terms of reading there's the Horary DIY thread on here:
http://www.tarotforum.net/member.php?u=1058
In terms of book.
Horary Astrology Made Simple by Tony Louis (good introductory text)
The Horary Textbook by John Frawley
The Martial Art of Horary Astrology
these two are excellent texts for the practioner
Christian Astrology Books I and II by William Lilly (THE textbook by the Master)
Minderwiz
28-06-2012, 05:34
The first chart I cast is not a valid one - I have Saturn in the first House but not mitigating circumstances. So I'll try again later.
Minderwiz
29-06-2012, 02:35
Hi :) Are you still taking questions? If so, I would like to post my question here too please. I would like to know when I will meet my husband/soulmate so to speak. I have chosen to be single for a long time after a painful heartbreak (9 years.. I know I don't get over things easily lol) Now I am feeling the loneliness creep in and I feel I am once again ready to give. Over the past few months, I have tried to be out on the dating scene but have not felt a connection with anyone and I'm just wondering how long it will be before I meet that man where and what kind of person will he be? personal description? attributes? anything you can pick up on would be great. thank you!
Agreed period 6 - 18 months.
The chart has Sagittarius rising, which means that you are signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini in the sixth House which is not a fortunate position. However Jupiter does have some but not a lot of essential dignity. It's in it's own Face but that's all. So you're not in a position where you are easily noticed by suitable men and you don't have much power to influence the situation. However you really are concerned about this potential meeting. Jupiter is ruled by Mercury who signifies the significant other and also in the Terms of Mercury This strong interest is emphasised by the Lot of Marriage being on your Ascendant...it's your key focus.
Mercury has just entered Leo and so is ruled by the Sun. Mercury has just entered the eighth House, another poor placement in terms of 'visibility'. . However Mercury is in the Terms of Jupiter, so we have a weak mutual reception.....he will find you attractive if you met, and even better Mercury is applying to a conjunction with the Lot of Marriage for Men....so he's not going to be averse to the idea of a long term relationship.
In this case there's something even better still. Mercury at 2 degrees Leo is applying to a sextile to Jupiter at 3 degrees 30 minutes of Gemini. This would usually indicate a 'Yes' answer to the question, i.e. you will meet him during this time period.
There is one 'fly in the ointment'.... Jupiter is conjunct the South Node to 4 minutes and the South Node is seen as malefic. Worse still Mercury will sextile the South Node, just before it sextiles Jupiter. This could mean a last minute hitch with the meeting or either you or he doesn't come over well to the other. There's a danger that things can go wrong. If it were Saturn or Mars there, I'd say things almost certainly will go wrong but the South Node is a point, not a planet so things may gp wrong, rather than will go wrong. So if this date does indeed materialise be very careful thatyou don't get off on the wrong foot.
Now the attraction is there but it's not leaping out as strong, so you might find your reaction is that you like him but don't see him initially as a potential husband.
At this point I'd say the balance is weakly in favour of a yes answer. So at worst there's a chance that you might meet someone you like but they're not likely to sweep you off your feet. However I can see that there's also a risk that you just don't notice each other. i think it's a small risk, it's far more likely that you will both take notice of the other. But whether the fire is ignited is the real question for both of you.
Good luck I hope it does work out
Minderwiz
01-07-2012, 05:36
Hi,
I am here after a longtime.
I can do a reading exchange for you.
But i would like to know what all to expect in my current job?
The chart I have cast has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini and conjunct the Descendant - a strong position but not particularly strong in terms of essential dignity. Whilst you are highly noticeable in your job, you are not particularly strong in it. That could be because it is demanding or even because it is too easy (where you lose interest in the day to day routines). However Jupiter is also Direct and swift in motion, so any lack of interest or difficulty is offset by you more than keeping pace with it. So you sctually seem to be performing the job well. There is however a conjunction of Jupiter with the South Node, and that is seen as something of a malefic influence. So you might be experiencing some difficulties with the job that you shouldn't be in normal circumstances.
The job itself is signified by the ruler of the MC, Venus, through Libra. Venus has just stationed Direct and is extremely slow in motion. Indeed Venus is moving at one third the speed of Jupiter whereas usually it moves about 12 times faster. This could well signify that you feel the job is not going anywhere, and comes back to a possible losing of interest because you are bored.
Venus too is angular in the Seventh, it's a seemingly prominent job but as Venus has no dignity at it's current position, the job really doesn't measure up to your expectations. Which again seems to suggest that you might be losing interest and concentration in it.
Your income (from the job and other things) is shown by the ruler of the second House. That is Saturn placed in Libra in the tenth House. Saturn is in exaltation so your income is good but Saturn has just turned Direct so you might have been experiencing some fall in income and certainly there seems no prospect of your income growing much beyond it's current levels. So your not badly paid for the job but neither the job nor your income show much prospect for growth over the next few months.
However I don't think you can simply give up the job. Saturn is the Triplicity ruler for the Air Signs, and has such has rulership over Jupiter - you need or want the money too much too give it up easily.
As both Jupiter (you) and Venus (the job) are in Gemini, they are ruled by Mercury (your husband), so I think that you might be in for a family argument if you decided to give them up.
Will things get better in the longer term? Yes and No. Venus will gain speed and the job will grow, becoming more interesting but also more demanding and as Venus will begin to leave Jupiter behind you might find this something of a struggle. But that's much further in the future than this reading covers.
For the moment the job seems to pay well, is within your competence level but id likrly to remain unsatisfying. For those looking in from the outside you seem well placed but I suspect you are not particularly happy with the situation. and it's prospects.
NamasteIndia
01-07-2012, 20:58
The chart I have cast has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini and conjunct the Descendant - a strong position but not particularly strong in terms of essential dignity.
As per vedic astrology i have a saggitarius rising and my moon is in pisces which is ruled by Jupiter. So you are accurate i am saggitarian.
Whilst you are highly noticeable in your job, you are not particularly strong in it. That could be because it is demanding or even because it is too easy (where you lose interest in the day to day routines). However Jupiter is also Direct and swift in motion, so any lack of interest or difficulty is offset by you more than keeping pace with it. So you sctually seem to be performing the job well. There is however a conjunction of Jupiter with the South Node, and that is seen as something of a malefic influence. So you might be experiencing some difficulties with the job that you shouldn't be in normal circumstances.
I work for a NGO teaching spoken english to underprivileged children. Till last year the syllabus seemed OK but this year i will be getting the same batch of children who will probably be going through 60% of similar syllabus which i actually feel stupid teaching. So you are right I am bored and actually during the demo sessions teaching stupid things like stand up, sit down seems rubbish for me.
The job itself is signified by the ruler of the MC, Venus, through Libra. Venus has just stationed Direct and is extremely slow in motion. Indeed Venus is moving at one third the speed of Jupiter whereas usually it moves about 12 times faster. This could well signify that you feel the job is not going anywhere, and comes back to a possible losing of interest because you are bored.
ya looking at the senseless syllabus and the same batch of students i feel its going nowhere.
Venus too is angular in the Seventh, it's a seemingly prominent job but as Venus has no dignity at it's current position, the job really doesn't measure up to your expectations. Which again seems to suggest that you might be losing interest and concentration in it.
Ya its a low paying job usually taken up by college students as a part time job or by retired personnel for extra income in silver innings. I am in my early 30's and i have chosen this organization for long term career which seems stupid.
Your income (from the job and other things) is shown by the ruler of the second House. That is Saturn placed in Libra in the tenth House. Saturn is in exaltation so your income is good but Saturn has just turned Direct so you might have been experiencing some fall in income and certainly there seems no prospect of your income growing much beyond it's current levels. So your not badly paid for the job but neither the job nor your income show much prospect for growth over the next few months.
Actually i just got a appraisal of 10% along with that my timings are increased i will be paid 2000rupees more compared to earlier. So its the highest i have ever earned from the first time i started working 12 years back. I have always had low paying jobs and many jobs i left midway or was asked to leave.
However I don't think you can simply give up the job. Saturn is the Triplicity ruler for the Air Signs, and has such has rulership over Jupiter - you need or want the money too much too give it up easily.
As both Jupiter (you) and Venus (the job) are in Gemini, they are ruled by Mercury (your husband), so I think that you might be in for a family argument if you decided to give them up.
like i said earlier this is first time in life till date that i have been earning so much money.
Will things get better in the longer term? Yes and No. Venus will gain speed and the job will grow, becoming more interesting but also more demanding and as Venus will begin to leave Jupiter behind you might find this something of a struggle. But that's much further in the future than this reading covers.
Actually i thought you would highlight the issue of bullying, harassed by co - workers etc.
For the moment the job seems to pay well, is within your competence level but id likrly to remain unsatisfying. For those looking in from the outside you seem well placed but I suspect you are not particularly happy with the situation. and it's prospects.
Ya the pay is good and its a good organization but i don't have any friends there in 32 staff members i haven't been close to anyone also some new colleagues who have joined me are bullying me and some are trying to extort favors from me some dangerous favors......can you just highlight on this particular issue i mean instead on focusing on money or career growth part just focusing on the relationship with colleagues and the resultant outcome.
Because the scenario there is getting dangerous.
Minderwiz
02-07-2012, 23:34
Actually i thought you would highlight the issue of bullying, harassed by co - workers etc.
Ya the pay is good and its a good organization but i don't have any friends there in 32 staff members i haven't been close to anyone also some new colleagues who have joined me are bullying me and some are trying to extort favors from me some dangerous favors......can you just highlight on this particular issue i mean instead on focusing on money or career growth part just focusing on the relationship with colleagues and the resultant outcome.
Because the scenario there is getting dangerous.
I'm sorry to hear that but sadly you didn't make it the focus of your question, so I didn't particularly look for it in the reading - horary focuses very specific targets. Looking back at the chart I cast, your co-workers are those other people around you, in the context of the question.
That would make them seventh house - and signified by Mercury. As outlined in the main reading, Jupiter is ruled by Mercury, so they have power over you and Jupiter is conjunct the malefic South Node, which is in Fall in Gemini (so it's definitely malefic). This would describe the situation that you outline - a miserable one. It did go through my mind as to how the South Node would affect Jupiter in the job. It could signal difficulties performing the job because of low capability - but as Jupiter (You) has more essential dignity than the job (Venus) I didn't see that as a problem. The misery doesn't come from the job per se but from the surrounding people (Jupiter is in the house of 'other people' - the seventh).
Will this change? The power balance is in favour of Mercury and Jupiter is at the beginning of Gemini, so it's not leaving there any time soon. Both Jupiter and the South Node move slowly but as Jupiter is Direct and the South Node Retrograde they are mutually moving away from each other - it will be slow but it will happen. Mercury has also been applying to Jupiter by sextile (not a malefic aspect but perhaps showing how easy the bullying has been to carry out). That sextile is now completed and Mercury is separating.
So again, things will improve although not very quickly at all. In real time Jupiter will have separated from the South Node in just over a month, but the effects of the bullying might well continue beyond that point.
I'd suggest that if things have not improved in a the next six weeks you talk to management about it and consider making a serious complaint - indeed if you were in the UK, that harassment at work would be illegal and your employer would be forced to act to protect you. I don't know what the situation is in India but for your own health's sake I think you should seriously consider taking action if things don't begin to improve.
NamasteIndia
03-07-2012, 01:49
I'm sorry to hear that but sadly you didn't make it the focus of your question, so I didn't particularly look for it in the reading - horary focuses very specific targets. Looking back at the chart I cast, your co-workers are those other people around you, in the context of the question.
I thought since the condition is so miserable you would automatically see the chart and realize that the relationship with colleagues is heresay so i particularly did not focus on that aspect
That would make them seventh house - and signified by Mercury. As outlined in the main reading, Jupiter is ruled by Mercury, so they have power over you and Jupiter is conjunct the malefic South Node, which is in Fall in Gemini (so it's definitely malefic). This would describe the situation that you outline - a miserable one. It did go through my mind as to how the South Node would affect Jupiter in the job. It could signal difficulties performing the job because of low capability - but as Jupiter (You) has more essential dignity than the job (Venus) I didn't see that as a problem. The misery doesn't come from the job per se but from the surrounding people (Jupiter is in the house of 'other people' - the seventh).
ya right the misery is not coming actually from the job but its coming from the surrounding people though the work is boring and dull and coupled with it the irritating college students who work there who are just in for fun and who bunk a lot and their work gets transferred onto me its overall perplexing.
Will this change? The power balance is in favour of Mercury and Jupiter is at the beginning of Gemini, so it's not leaving there any time soon. Both Jupiter and the South Node move slowly but as Jupiter is Direct and the South Node Retrograde they are mutually moving away from each other - it will be slow but it will happen. Mercury has also been applying to Jupiter by sextile (not a malefic aspect but perhaps showing how easy the bullying has been to carry out). That sextile is now completed and Mercury is separating
So again, things will improve although not very quickly at all. In real time Jupiter will have separated from the South Node in just over a month, but the effects of the bullying might well continue beyond that point.
actually one of the girl who used to bully me badly is now in a separate department and luckily we interact lesser now.
I'd suggest that if things have not improved in a the next six weeks you talk to management about it and consider making a serious complaint - indeed if you were in the UK, that harassment at work would be illegal and your employer would be forced to act to protect you. I don't know what the situation is in India but for your own health's sake I think you should seriously consider taking action if things don't begin to improve.
Here in India there are no laws against bullying neither against ragging in college. People get away with anything even mother in law burn their daughter in law alive and get away scott free. But the main bully in my workplace is shifted plus i overheard that she got better offer so she would be leaving soon.
There are some scrupulous people around me dangerous to the core the environment is not safe but i just keep hoping things will change for better.
Thank you so much for the reading, for your time and energy.
You have done a excellent reading like the previous times.
Do inform me next time you will be having the horary readings...
Namaste
Minderwiz
04-07-2012, 06:04
If you still have time for one more, I would love one too please.
How will I be able to improve my career growth and improve my finances (pay increment etc) with the current company or should I look elsewhere?
Many thanks!
I'll confine the reading to the next 12 months. Beyond that horary tends not to operate so well.
The attached chart has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars. Currently Mars is on the cusp of Libra, which is it's Detriment (opposite it's rulership of Aries). This is a debility and as it signifies you, it suggests that things have just or are about to change to a weaker situation. Mars is technically within the tenth House but as it's less than five degrees from the eleventh cusp, it is more concerned with issues of the eleventh House. That is your immediate concerns are your hopes and aspirations, rather than the job itself. The position is not bad. Mars is Direct, free from the Sun's beams but it's not particularly fast and it's occidental (it's waning compared to the Sun). Generally your situation appears to be one that is getting weaker rather than stronger.
The job is signified by the ruler of the MC, which is Mercury. Mercury is in Leo, where it is Peregrine, that is it has no essential dignity at all. It's not a particularly good job, unless the owner/CEO/Manager decides to provide support for it. No interest from the boss means it's a pretty unreliable as a source of employment, even if you like doing it. I suspect your enthusiasm for it has recently changed though. Mars was in Virgo, ruled by Mercury, which suggests some real interest in it, but now that interest has waned - it's not really in your top priority list - unless there's money in it or something else that will keep you going. However Mercury is slow - things are not going as you would hope, even if they are headed in the right direction, the job is not challenging or rewarding in itself. In terms of position, Mercury is in the ninth - not a bad position and trine the Ascendant by house. However the ninth is a cadent house and again suggests that things are not as good as they were.
Your income and financial rewards are shown by the second house - ruled by Jupiter. This would normally suggest that things are good in terms of pay and might well get better. Jupiter itself is in Gemini where it has dignity by Face (Decan) which is not particularly bad but is also not particularly good. This is not a rapidly growing or strong Jupiter, it's a barely OK Jupiter. Even worse it's conjunct the malefic South Node. Now this aspect is separating so things will improve, albeit slowly. However things are not as good as they could be....Jupiter is not promising a good increase in income over the year. The reason for this in practice is likely to be restrictions of the job/employer, as Jupiter is ruled by Mercury and Mercury rules the job. If the job is not strong then the pay is not going to grow as you would hope, even though superficially it seems as though it could.
Should you leave the job?
That's a decision for you but I don't see things improving. Indeed the slowing Mercury indicates that Mercury (the job) will eventually Station Retrograde - the job will move in the opposite direction. This is not likely to occur in the time period of the reading but things will noticeably slow.
However the issue is will you easily obtain another job = again that's your call but I don't see you automatically walking into something better. However it will do no harm to keep with the current job whilst looking round for another one.
Sorry not to be optimistic but the chart doesn't show much improvement, though it doesn't show a drastic falling off in the short term. If there were good days, then they are now fading.
Minderwiz
06-07-2012, 01:00
hi!
if your taking more sitter's i would love a reading. here is my question:
what are the possibilities that B and i will be able to reconnect and reconcile at some point in the future?
anytbing you get around this situation at all, please let me know. thank you!
here is the clairification you needed:
yes, B and i were in a romantic relationship
i would like to renew the old relationship
i am female
anything else you need, please let me know. thank you so much for you time and effort doing this for me!
My first two attempts at a chart produced a 'No outcome' and a 'Never comes to any good' considerations so here's my third and final attempt:
The chart has Leo rising, so you are signified by the Sun, which is currently in Cancer where it has no essential dignity (Peregrine). You really don't have much, if any, power to affect the outcome here, and you will probably need at least some help from someone else. Furthermore the Sun is in the twelfth House, which is not a good position - it can't be 'seen' from the Ascendant and also as it is the ruler of the Ascendant, that weakens its position still further. So you're not really well placed to do anuthing and you don't really have much power to act, even if you could....not really an ideal situation.
He is signified by Saturn, ruler of the Descendant. Saturn is in Libra, where it is in Exaltation, so he's much more able to act than you. That's good if he's in a position to act and also wants to act. Only one of you need take that first step.
Saturn is in the fourth House - it is angular, so he's also in a position to act But there's still quite a lot of bad feeling, both on his part and yours. The Sun in Cancer is in the Detriment of Saturn, and Saturn in Libra is in the Fall of the Sun. If you had not had a previous relationship, I'd say you didn't like each other. That might still be the case if the break up was acrimonious but asking this question suggests that you want to let the past go. I'm not sure that will hold for him.
The next thing to look for is an aspect between Sun and Saturn which is applying = that would signal that the two of you are coming together again. Now there is such as aspect. The Sun in Cancer is applying to a square with Saturn in Libra. Such an aspect suggests that you will come together but not necessarily that the relationship will resume. If the planets were in opposite signs, then I'd say almost certainly that the relationship will rekindle. As it is the past might be the problem, at least as far as he's concerned.
If this comes off, it will be with difficulty and a lot of work and quite possibly help from someone else, such as a friend I've looked at the Lots of Marriage, The Valens Lot, which is the most used one, is ruled by the Sun and shows your interest but his antipathy, (Leo is the Detriment of Saturn, though there is some slight hope from it falling in the Decan of Saturn. Of the others, Saturn only features in the Alternative Lot for Men, and then only as Term ruler....his enthusiasm for a rekindling of the flame is at best luke warm indicating the scale of your problem here.
It might come off, iff he gets to notice you things might change but I think it's going to be an uneasy reunion and you might find it doesn't go as hoped or there are delays and other issues first.
The good thing is that there is a possibility and that is better than offering nothing But don't assume that you won't have to work long and hard and that he has to decide it's worth pursuing for this to come off.
Ethereal
06-07-2012, 09:08
oh dear! i looks pretty bleak, to say the least. i agree that there may be a slight glimmer of hope here, but i do think it would be up to him to carry it forward. his decision more than mine. no i don't have any power to act at this point, it is so true. i ended things between us, and i know he is not happy about the way it all came about. i have to agree that if it was rekindled, it would be an awful lot of hard work and effort needed to make it work. the past and what happened would definitely be the problem, in his mind anyhow. i don't even know if i would be able to reason with him about how i actually felt, and why i did what i did do. i *think,* we could talk again, but as you said no absolutes that our relationship would resume again. everything you got here is 110% accurate! and, to see it astrology wise brings it home to me, even more so. how i wish things would have been different; and i do think he does to. at least on some level. i get the feeling not only from the chart you did, but in my heart that it has all slipped away, to the point of no return. great big THANK YOU! for taking the time to do this for me! not to mention the first two you attempted. it means alot!
ps. if you do these again in the near future would you be willing to do one for me, *repeat offender?" ;) i would love to look into my personal/self situation/life issues currently. thanks once again!
Minderwiz
07-07-2012, 00:39
oh dear! i looks pretty bleak, to say the least. i agree that there may be a slight glimmer of hope here....
The situation is not hopeless, a square aspect will work in your favour, but it signals some difficulties, delays and obstacles. The thing that concerns me more is that his feelings are not positive towards you.....that's what you have to overcome and in some ways it's a tall order. But the chance is there, even if it's not a strong one.
Minderwiz
07-07-2012, 01:35
Are you still doing these? If so I would love one, if not, next time...... What are the chances I will sell and move before the end of 2012. Thanks in anticipation.
The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars, which has just entered the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations...you are hoping that it does, indeed that is a strong priority. Mars however is not particularly strong. Indeed Mars is in it's Detriment of Libra, so the power to act here is weak However the eleventh is not a bad position by any means so you will certainly get noticed by possible buyers. Mars is also Direct and at about average speed, so again there is no major obstacle to you....what matters is the property and the potential buyer.
The property is signified by the fourth House. The cusp (IC) is in very late Aquarius and so the property is signified by Saturn who is in Libra but on the cusp of the twelfth House, Saturn is in Exaltation in Libra, so this suggests that the property is in good condition and should be just what the buyer is looking for but....the twelfth is inconjunct the Ascendant/Descendant axis, so it's not in an ideal location. The problem is going to be getting the property noticed or indeed getting buyers to accept that the location is desirable. Give that you (Mars) are in a good position to be noticed this might mean that you've got to do a lot to draw attention to the House. Given that Saturn is both the Exaltation Ruler and the Triplicity Ruler and Mars is in the Terms or Bounds of Saturn...I'd say the house is an overwhelming priority at the moment.
The potential buyer is signified by the ruler of the Descendant, which is Venus (through Taurus). Given that Mars is in the other sign of Venus (this again stresses that the sale of the property is extremely important to you. You might even be obsessing about it LOL. Venus is in Gemini, in the eighth. This is not a good placement, being like the twelfth inconjunct to the Ascendant/Descendant axis However the good news is that Gemini is an Air sign and the Triplicity ruler is Saturn...so your property will appeal to the buyer, if they get to learn about it or view it. The eighth is the buyer's income and financial resources, so that is what they are likely concerned with...to sell your property must not just be attractive to them but must offer value for money.
Their financial resources are signified by Mercury and Mercury is Peregrine - no essential dignity. So they don't have a lot of resources in relation to the sale. They won't pay a premium price for your property and may even struggle at the asking price. Mercury is in the Decan or Face of Saturn, so there's a mild desire to pay out for the property but it's more a 'we like the property and would like to buy but can you come down.....?'
The difficulty is going to be getting buyer and seller together. Venus is currently slow and is making no aspect to Mars or Saturn and neither is Mercury.
Your financial resources are signified by Jupiter (Second House in Sagittarius). Jupiter also rules the Lot of Real Estate but I think all this signifies is that you would like the money from the sale badly as you are also devoting your financial resources to the new property. Juptier itself is also in Gemini and just separating from a conjunction with the South Node. Jupiter is in its own Face or Decan but otherwise has little dignity, and the South Node is malefic in nature, so you need that sale! Jupiter has bee applying to a conjunction with Venus, but that was when Venus was Stationery (it's just turned Direct) and Venus is now moving away from Jupiter, nor is there an aspect between Jupiter and Mercury.
So none of this suggests that the property will be sold within your time scale. I've also checked the Moon to see if that shows the sale being effected. The Moon is currently exactly trine Saturn (the Property) but the Moon is not applying to either Mercury or Venus.
The Lot of Victory is ruled by Saturn, again the property, showing that success is governed by the sale. However the Lot is inconjunct both Mercury and Venus...neither will 'notice' the property sufficiently to take action.
BTW if you're using an Estate Agent I'd look at how effective they are. The Agent is signified by the sixth House of servants, which is in Aries. Given that I've used Mars for you and there are no planets in the sixth, I've assigned the Sun (Exaltation ruler for Aries) to the Agent (if any). The Sun is in Cancer, where it is Peregrine and it's inconjunct both Venus and Mercury. The Agent isn't getting through to a potential buyer. If you are acting as your own agent, then think about hiring one, if you are already using an agent, then think of changing them.
So at the moment i don't see a sale, even though the property is good. The issue is getting iit noticed and on the market for the right price.
Edited to add:
There's just a chance that the 'Agent' will pull it off more by luck than judgement. The Sun's antiscion is just within range of the Lot of Fortune and Venus' antisicon is just in range of the Sun. In both cases the orbs are at the widest end of the allowance but it might just signify a possible stroke of luck. Lets hope so!!
Ethereal
07-07-2012, 05:39
thanks for adding that minderwiz; and clearing it up for me. it looked pretty bleak to me, and that glimmer of light, just a .... on the horizon. however, YES, i have a distinct feeling he is, *very, very, upset,* to say the least with me at the moment. to make it work, it will take an awful lot of hardwork. it will not be easy, for sure. thank you once again for doing this for me; it brought it all, *home,* more so to speak and sure made the whole situation alot clearer!
Minderwiz
09-07-2012, 01:38
Hello
I've never had a horary reading done before and would love one if you are still taking sitters
Currently where I'm living there is a bit of a rental crisis...too many people not enough places so a good house to rent is hard to come by.
So I would like to know if I will be able to find a new place to rent and move within the next 3 months.
Thank you :)
As this is a question about remting I'm reading this asfirstly. will you find somewhere suitable that you like, and secondly will it be affordable..
The attached chart for the question has Aries rising. This means that you are signified by Mars. Currently Mars has just moved into Libra, where it is in Detriment, so your circumstances are weak in relation to the question. I just take that as reflecting your description of the rental market - any individual is in a weak situation compared to those who have properties to rent.
However Mars is well placed in the chart, being conjunct the Descendant. If there's anywhere going your in a good situation to find out and take what action you can. Given that others will also be taking action, that's no guarantee of success but it does mean that you are unlikely to miss an opportunity if it arises.
The Property is signified by the ruler or the fourth House which rules your Home. Even though you will not own it, you will be living in it. If you were just renting and not living there, I'd use the tenth, as fixed property belonging to someone else.
The fourth cusp (the IC) is in Cancer, so the property is signified by the Moon. The Moon itself is in Pisces, and placed in the twelfth, which suggests that the location is not particularly good or that you will not see it in time to act. As Mars is on the Descendant, I'd probably go for the not seeing it in time, despite keeping a good look out, but it might be that you see the advert but don't bother looking at it because it's in the wrong location. Mars rules the Water Triplicity by Night, so the property 'likes you'...probably designed for your type of renter. As Mars is in the Decan of the Moon, you will have some interest in it but only at a low level. It's better than being out on the streets but not that much better. It might be designed for you but it's not really in the best location at all.
As the fourth cusp is in the Fall of Mars, I really don't see you and the property getting on together, so at best it may well be a stop gap, at worst it's a' don't like.'
There's no aspect developing between Moon and Mars, so you're not going to find this by yourself. Using an estate agent doesn't seem to improve the chances, either, as there's no aspect developing between Mercury (ruler of the sixth House of agents and employees) and the Moon. There is an almost perfect inconjunct thought between Mercury and the Moon, which suggests that either they will know about it but not get the information to you or it will be noticed but then drop off their radar, as far as you are concerned.
I'm trying out the use of the Hellenistic Lots/Arabic Parts and there is a Lot of Real Estate. In this chart it's ruled by Mars (through Scorpio) and the Moon is applying to a trine with it....So this is a good indication. The Lot of Victory or Success is ruled by Mercury (the estate agent) which in turn is conjunct the Lot of Fortune (Luck) so there's an indication that the estate agent might get lucky or you might be lucky checking a particular estate agend but with no strong aspects between your significator and the property's significator or between the property's significator and an agent, I can't really draw the conclusion that this will work out.
So you might get lucky and find something through an estate agent buit this is only a possibility. The likelihood is that what you do come across will either not be suitable or you don't get the info in time.
Three months is a fairly short period, so if you don't get fixed up in that period come back and ask the question again!
Jezzabelle
09-07-2012, 13:30
As this is a question about remting I'm reading this asfirstly. will you find somewhere suitable that you like, and secondly will it be affordable..
The attached chart for the question has Aries rising. This means that you are signified by Mars. Currently Mars has just moved into Libra, where it is in Detriment, so your circumstances are weak in relation to the question. I just take that as reflecting your description of the rental market - any individual is in a weak situation compared to those who have properties to rent.
I'm also not working full time at the moment, I'm doing some studying so that also goes against me. It makes it harder to get a place that I can afford and real estate agents prefer to give rentals to people that are working in a stable job....naturally.
However Mars is well placed in the chart, being conjunct the Descendant. If there's anywhere going your in a good situation to find out and take what action you can. Given that others will also be taking action, that's no guarantee of success but it does mean that you are unlikely to miss an opportunity if it arises.
This is exactally what it's like at the moment, there are so many people that you have to compete against when a place comes up because everyone is looking for a cheap rental.
The Property is signified by the ruler or the fourth House which rules your Home. Even though you will not own it, you will be living in it. If you were just renting and not living there, I'd use the tenth, as fixed property belonging to someone else.
The fourth cusp (the IC) is in Cancer, so the property is signified by the Moon. The Moon itself is in Pisces, and placed in the twelfth, which suggests that the location is not particularly good or that you will not see it in time to act. As Mars is on the Descendant, I'd probably go for the not seeing it in time, despite keeping a good look out, but it might be that you see the advert but don't bother looking at it because it's in the wrong location. Mars rules the Water Triplicity by Night, so the property 'likes you'...probably designed for your type of renter. As Mars is in the Decan of the Moon, you will have some interest in it but only at a low level. It's better than being out on the streets but not that much better. It might be designed for you but it's not really in the best location at all.
As the fourth cusp is in the Fall of Mars, I really don't see you and the property getting on together, so at best it may well be a stop gap, at worst it's a' don't like.'
Last week I actually did see a unit that I would have liked but the location was a long distance from where I am looking. There are quite a few cheaper places in this area that I have seen but have been kind of dismissing them as I have been trying to get a place in a central location. That's mainly so that it would not be far for me to travel when I do go back to working full time.
But I have realised that I need to widen the search which means relocating and finding work there instead. I do like the area where the unit was, it's actually right on the beach in a coastal suburb. Does that explain all the water in this chart ? I found that really interesting!!
There's no aspect developing between Moon and Mars, so you're not going to find this by yourself. Using an estate agent doesn't seem to improve the chances, either, as there's no aspect developing between Mercury (ruler of the sixth House of agents and employees) and the Moon. There is an almost perfect inconjunct thought between Mercury and the Moon, which suggests that either they will know about it but not get the information to you or it will be noticed but then drop off their radar, as far as you are concerned.
I'm trying out the use of the Hellenistic Lots/Arabic Parts and there is a Lot of Real Estate. In this chart it's ruled by Mars (through Scorpio) and the Moon is applying to a trine with it....So this is a good indication. The Lot of Victory or Success is ruled by Mercury (the estate agent) which in turn is conjunct the Lot of Fortune (Luck) so there's an indication that the estate agent might get lucky or you might be lucky checking a particular estate agend but with no strong aspects between your significator and the property's significator or between the property's significator and an agent, I can't really draw the conclusion that this will work out.
So you might get lucky and find something through an estate agent buit this is only a possibility. The likelihood is that what you do come across will either not be suitable or you don't get the info in time.
Three months is a fairly short period, so if you don't get fixed up in that period come back and ask the question again!
Well this is really interesting because I do actually have a friend that lives in this area and I was thinking of asking her what it was like to live there and if she would keep an eye out for any good places for me. I would still also go through real estate agents but I also don't really like my chances with them at the moment.
There is also a website where you can post ads if you are looking for a rental or if you have one and I have been keeping an eye on that in the hope that someone wants to rent something privately and not through an agent.
I really like and hope that I do get lucky!! :)
Thank you so much for the reading it wasn't as bad as what I thought it might be LOL!! I was expecting a you don't have a chance in hell !!!:) I hope I have given you enough feedback and I'll see what happens over the next three months.
Minderwiz
10-07-2012, 07:23
But I have realised that I need to widen the search which means relocating and finding work there instead. I do like the area where the unit was, it's actually right on the beach in a coastal suburb. Does that explain all the water in this chart ? I found that really interesting!!
It's not something I thought of at the time but Cancer signifies the sea shore in terms of places, so I found this comment really interesting!!
I really like and hope that I do get lucky!! :)
Thank you so much for the reading it wasn't as bad as what I thought it might be LOL!! I was expecting a you don't have a chance in hell !!!:) I hope I have given you enough feedback and I'll see what happens over the next three months.
I don't want to get your hopes up too much - I'd say perhaps 10% lucky break and 90% you don't find one. Your point about estate agents favouring income earners seemed to explain why your chances don't seem to improve using an agent, so there's no 'rush' to pass the info on as far as they are concerned.
Thanks for the feedback, it has really helped me review my reading. Good luck with the search. :-)
Jezzabelle
10-07-2012, 15:05
It's not something I thought of at the time but Cancer signifies the sea shore in terms of places, so I found this comment really interesting!!
I don't want to get your hopes up too much - I'd say perhaps 10% lucky break and 90% you don't find one. Your point about estate agents favouring income earners seemed to explain why your chances don't seem to improve using an agent, so there's no 'rush' to pass the info on as far as they are concerned.
Thanks for the feedback, it has really helped me review my reading. Good luck with the search. :-)
Ahhh of course Cancer and the sea....makes perfect sense !!
Thanks again for the reading I am definitely staying realistic about my chances of finding something being very slim, but I'm still going to go after every opportunity !! :)
The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars, which has just entered the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations...you are hoping that it does, indeed that is a strong priority. Mars however is not particularly strong. Indeed Mars is in it's Detriment of Libra, so the power to act here is weak However the eleventh is not a bad position by any means so you will certainly get noticed by possible buyers. Mars is also Direct and at about average speed, so again there is no major obstacle to you....what matters is the property and the potential buyer.
Yes indeed, hoping the market and the timing will be good for me.
The property is signified by the fourth House. The cusp (IC) is in very late Aquarius and so the property is signified by Saturn who is in Libra but on the cusp of the twelfth House, Saturn is in Exaltation in Libra, so this suggests that the property is in good condition and should be just what the buyer is looking for but....the twelfth is inconjunct the Ascendant/Descendant axis, so it's not in an ideal location. The problem is going to be getting the property noticed or indeed getting buyers to accept that the location is desirable. Give that you (Mars) are in a good position to be noticed this might mean that you've got to do a lot to draw attention to the House. Given that Saturn is both the Exaltation Ruler and the Triplicity Ruler and Mars is in the Terms or Bounds of Saturn...I'd say the house is an overwhelming priority at the moment.
Its not an ideal location for all for sure, its like a complete sea change especially for city people, so yes lots of attention needs to be drawn, and for me it is an overwhelming priority, I feel if I don't leave soon I'll go nuts lol.
The potential buyer is signified by the ruler of the Descendant, which is Venus (through Taurus). Given that Mars is in the other sign of Venus (this again stresses that the sale of the property is extremely important to you. You might even be obsessing about it LOL. Venus is in Gemini, in the eighth. This is not a good placement, being like the twelfth inconjunct to the Ascendant/Descendant axis However the good news is that Gemini is an Air sign and the Triplicity ruler is Saturn...so your property will appeal to the buyer, if they get to learn about it or view it. The eighth is the buyer's income and financial resources, so that is what they are likely concerned with...to sell your property must not just be attractive to them but must offer value for money.
As with anything especially in todays market everyone is looking for value for money, we have lowered our expectations a little and feel that this is value for money hopefully a potential buyer will see the same.
Their financial resources are signified by Mercury and Mercury is Peregrine - no essential dignity. So they don't have a lot of resources in relation to the sale. They won't pay a premium price for your property and may even struggle at the asking price. Mercury is in the Decan or Face of Saturn, so there's a mild desire to pay out for the property but it's more a 'we like the property and would like to buy but can you come down.....?'
This is a little sad but forewarned is forearmed. I hope not to get pig headed about it and negotiate where reasonable, actually I think I would negotiate quite a bit just to sell, depends on which day they get me ha ha.
The difficulty is going to be getting buyer and seller together. Venus is currently slow and is making no aspect to Mars or Saturn and neither is Mercury.
Your financial resources are signified by Jupiter (Second House in Sagittarius). Jupiter also rules the Lot of Real Estate but I think all this signifies is that you would like the money from the sale badly as you are also devoting your financial resources to the new property. Juptier itself is also in Gemini and just separating from a conjunction with the South Node. Jupiter is in its own Face or Decan but otherwise has little dignity, and the South Node is malefic in nature, so you need that sale! Jupiter has bee applying to a conjunction with Venus, but that was when Venus was Stationery (it's just turned Direct) and Venus is now moving away from Jupiter, nor is there an aspect between Jupiter and Mercury.
So none of this suggests that the property will be sold within your time scale. I've also checked the Moon to see if that shows the sale being effected. The Moon is currently exactly trine Saturn (the Property) but the Moon is not applying to either Mercury or Venus.
The Lot of Victory is ruled by Saturn, again the property, showing that success is governed by the sale. However the Lot is inconjunct both Mercury and Venus...neither will 'notice' the property sufficiently to take action.
BTW if you're using an Estate Agent I'd look at how effective they are. The Agent is signified by the sixth House of servants, which is in Aries. Given that I've used Mars for you and there are no planets in the sixth, I've assigned the Sun (Exaltation ruler for Aries) to the Agent (if any). The Sun is in Cancer, where it is Peregrine and it's inconjunct both Venus and Mercury. The Agent isn't getting through to a potential buyer. If you are acting as your own agent, then think about hiring one, if you are already using an agent, then think of changing them.
So at the moment i don't see a sale, even though the property is good. The issue is getting iit noticed and on the market for the right price.
Edited to add:
There's just a chance that the 'Agent' will pull it off more by luck than judgement. The Sun's antiscion is just within range of the Lot of Fortune and Venus' antisicon is just in range of the Sun. In both cases the orbs are at the widest end of the allowance but it might just signify a possible stroke of luck. Lets hope so!!
This is so interesting, we have just changed agents (I am talking yesterday) and we feel he just may be able to pull this off, perhaps as you say more by luck but however he does it I feel more confident noting your last paragraph. Thank you Minderwiz, you have done a chart for me before and were extremely accurate. I haven't been on the site very much over the last 12 months so I am fortunate to have checked in as you were doing these and am so happy to have received one from you, although it may not be what I want, it sure is what will be, your footnote is something I will hold onto with a headsup on the process. Again thanks and the best wishes to you.
Minderwiz
29-07-2012, 22:39
no problem, minderwiz! ok, just a general question then.
what does the future look like for me, within the next 12 months?
i hope that helps and is better for you. again, whatever you see here in any area of my life is fine with me. looking forward to hearing from you soon, full feedback coming! thanks again for taking the time, and all the effort that goes into these readings!
This is the first time I've used Horary for a general reading of the period ahead and I had to check with Lilly that it could be done. He's used a question
"What accidents in the future he might expect...."
Accidents here being things that happen beyond our control as a result of the circumstances. And some of these can be good and some not so good. But you shouldn't think of them as 'accidents' in the modern sense of 'injuries'
So the chart has Scorpio rising which means Mars is your significator. The first thing to check is the condition of Mars - its essential and accidental dignities. Mars is in the eleventh House of hopes and expectations, which seems appropriate for a general question on what the future might bring. The eleventh is a good placement but being in Libra, Mars is in Detriment. At Mars' current location Saturn is the dominant planet, followed by Venus and then some way off Mercury.
Saturn rules the third and fourth Houses...siblings, neighbours, short journeys and religion and belief of the less organised and public kind....our kind.... is the third. Family and Home (and real estate) is the fourth. So these are both likely to loom large in your hopes for the next 12 months. Venus rules the seventh....partnership is up there too, which reflects your previous question.
There's no obvious impediment, such as a square or opposition, and Mars has two applying sextiles, one from the Sun and one from the Moon. From these I deduce that your health is going to be fine over the next 12 months. The Sun also rules your tenth so that also looks a good indication for career, especially as the Sun is a natural significator of public status and actions. The Moon rules your ninth, travel again plus more open and public religion, and Astrology. You any plans to go into business as a reader? If so it looks a good period to do that. Mars is in a cardinal sign and that can signify change and movement (they used to be called 'moveable signs').
The Moon is in your second House of resources and substence, and it's applying to Mars (you) and the Sun (your career), so that looks quite good for your income stream over the period. The Moon is Peregrine but the Sun is in rulership and triplicity - the career should go well, indeed probably very well but your income won't increase as fast by any means. The Moon is also in opposition to it's ruler Jupiter in the eighth. Jupiter is in a separating trine to Mars, so I'm taking that as another indication that your income just isn't going to keep pace here. Of course, it could well mean that the benefits of your work over the next 12 months are experienced in later periods but expect good career but not necessarily good increases in income to go with it. I don't think your income will suffer, Jupiter has dignity by terms and face but is in detriment, but I can't see it growing. strongly.
Both the Lots of Fortune and Spirit have Venus as their almuten, Venus is not strong in essential dignity but is direct and free from the Sun's rays...I don't see bad luck or problems here, but not a huge amount of luck either....the Moon squares the Lot of Fortune.
So a good 12 months for health and also for your career. Less so for your income. Nothing nasty appears to be lurking out there.
Ethereal
30-07-2012, 05:35
well, that reading made alot of sense to me! siblings, neighbors, family, real estate, are definitely looming large right now. and honestly, i can see it being so for the next year, without a doubt. for various reasons; things that are occuring right now. i have a question as far as venus goes. the partnership thing that reflected on my previous question; as you stated. if you could clarify that, that would be so helpful. does it mean with that person in particular, or other partnership possibilities in general? or both? it did seem to me that from what you got, that love/relationship won't be a strong point for me within the next 12 months. am i getting that right? if you could again clarify this for me it would be great! thanks! the moon ruling the 9th. travel. well, i can see that. things are a bit up in the air right now, movement wise. also, what you got in regards to more open and public religion/astrology hit a spot with me. yes, i have been veering towards a more spiritual path of my own for some time now. also more towards the metaphysical aspects of things. doing alot of study and reading on various paths. funny you asked if i was looking into going into business as a reader. i *have* thought about it; however i don't feel comfortable enough yet to persue it as a career path. i feel like i just don't have enough solid experience reading for others. i have had good result's for those i have read for, yet going public with it, i don't feel the time is right, just yet. i have another question: i have thought more lately about writing. writing a novel; working on that type of thing. could that possibly fit in here? creative arts type thing? just curious about that. i would love to learn more about astrology, looking into learning more about it. the career/money aspect of the reading was so spot on. been rough lately. i have been out of work for sometime; and i do agree that when i go back i don't think the wages will keep up. (the economy here in the usa is pretty bad, as are jobs). the cost of everything has risen so high, no one's income is really keeping up. plus, job lay offs and cutbacks. cutbacks in wages, also. so, it FULLY makes sense! nothing bad you say, which is a GOOD THING! lol. not alot of good luck, either. sounds about par for the course lately. everything tied in so well and made so much sense to me. thank you, minderwiz! for all the effort and time you put in to doing this for me. interesting reading and certainly gave me alot to ponder! thank you once again!
Minderwiz
30-07-2012, 20:49
. i have a question as far as venus goes. the partnership thing that reflected on my previous question; as you stated. if you could clarify that, that would be so helpful. does it mean with that person in particular, or other partnership possibilities in general? or both? it did seem to me that from what you got, that love/relationship won't be a strong point for me within the next 12 months. am i getting that right? if you could again clarify this for me it would be great! thanks! [quote]
Romance is definitely a hope but whilst there's a Venus/Mars tribe, its a separating one, so I don't see that as a likely event.....or at least not at the level of marriage or long term partnership. That doesn't mean no dates or romantic fun .....simply that marriage is unlikely in that period. Though it remains high on your personal hopes.
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i have another question: i have thought more lately about writing. writing a novel; working on that type of thing. could that possibly fit in here? creative arts type thing? just curious about that.
Yes it could well fit in. The Sun is conjunct Mercury so writing/communication could well play a part in your career/actions and activities
Ethereal
30-07-2012, 21:42
thank you minderwiz for the response to my question! so, no long term romance/marriage/partnership likely. the venus/mars tribe. thanks for clearing that up for me. dates etc, just nothing long term. good news on the writing aspect though! sounds promising. maybe that is a career path i should look into; as someone recently suggested it to me. again, much thanks for the reply back to me, it help to clear this all up for me ;)
Minderwiz
31-07-2012, 21:30
Never had a horary reading before, surprising since I love Astrology....anyway.....
My question (hope its not too vague) Any significant changes coming up in my life for the rest of the year?
Thank you :)
I'm taking this question in a similar way to the previous one. Based on Lilly's reading for 'future accidents' (events outside your control).
The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Libra, where it is exaltation, so your in good condition and good health at the moment. Saturn is in the seventh House, but it is a wide house and Saturn is sextile the Descendant, but more importantly, trine the Ascendant. It's always a good sign when the Ascendant ruler is in aspect to the Ascendant. Saturn has two aspects to planets, a close applying trine from Venus (angular in the fourth House) and a sextile from the Moon angular in the tenth House, Both these aspects are favourable and suggest that the favourable things will come from home, family and real estate (Venus) and from career and Actions (Moon).
Venus rules the Second House of income, possessions and resources, and the eighth which usually relates to partner's resources, inheritences or taxation (eighth) or pay rise (second). As this is a trine, I don't think you're going to get a tax bill, lol - possibly a refund or small gift or inheritence. Venus is Peregrine, so it's not going to be much and you might need some help to get it. Venus also trines the Ascendant emphasising something coming your way.
Venus and the Moon are in opposition, which suggests that there might be some conflict involved. The Moon rules the sixth, usually associated with ill health or servants. Given that Saturn is quite strong in essential dignity, I don't see ill health as being a particularly significant threat, especially as the Moon is sextiling Saturn. So servants might be something of a problem lol - that can be tradesmen that you use, agents that you use as well as anyone who works under you in your career (such as a secretary).
I don't take the opposition of Moon/Venus to be a threat of any kind, but it might signify difficult choices or that things don't work out smoothly - though they will work out.
The aspects to Saturn are very close, so I would think that the timing is likely to be earlier rather than later in the period. Saturn in a Cardinal or Moveable sign suggests some changes coming and a gain fairly swiftly.
The Lots of Fortune (things that befall you) and Spirit (Your choices to act) are ruled by Venus and the Moon respectively, though Saturn actually has more dignity at the place of the Lot of Fortune. There's no threat here, more promise again. In the Seventh that might relate to partnerships, but the Lot is actually some distance from the Descendant, so don't build your hopes up LOL.
Spirit is ruled by the Moon which is in the bounds and face of Saturn, and the Moon is applying to Saturn by sextile. I think you will be able to take the decisions and action that you need to achieve your goals during this period. The Lot of Spirit is in the Fifth, so perhaps romance and fun may have a place in the coming few months. Generally the Moon is not strong so, it's not going to be a hugely wonderful time but it is going to be positive, not negative.
Career, income and resources are the general areas that are favourable, there may just be something positive in how relax and have fun (and romance).
Minderwiz
05-08-2012, 02:08
Agreed question:
'Will my Mum remarry or enter into a relationship during the next 18 months'
The question is about your Mum, I could use the 10th House here, but as your're not directly affected I'll give the first to her. That makes it easy to follow the reading. I'll double check the reading against what I would have got using the 10th for her.
The chart has Sagittarius rising, so she is signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini, where it is in Detriment, and is conjunct the Descendant. I would read 'Detriment' here as being vulnerable, which a person looking for a relationship is. This position also confirms her desire for a relationship, as she is in the sign of the significant other. Jupiter also rules the Part of Marriage which lies in the first House, another confimation of her desire for a relationship.
The significant other is Mercury, who is in Leo in the 8th House. Mercury is currently retrograde and combust, so Mercury's accidental dignity is quite low and in Leo Mercury is Peregrine.
If Mercury was Direct, it would be moving towards a Sextile with Jupiter, and as Mercury is in the Terms of Jupiter there would definitely be some interest in a relationship. That would be a positive outcome. But Retrograde, Mercury is moving away from the sextile, not towards it.
There's no contact by antisica,
So the next thing I'll check is the Moon. The Moon lies at 17 degrees Aquarius, just past the trine to Jupiter but it's next aspect is to the Lot of Fortune by Trine and then Saturn by Trine. There is no potential aspect to Mercury.
The final check is using the alternative significators, Sun for him and Venus for your Mother. The Sun is in Leo, so it is very strong in essential dignity, it is also in the Face of Jupiter, so the significant other would not be averse to a relationship, but that's the strongest it gets. However the Sun and Jupiter are in a partile trine and for Jupiter the Sun is the triplicity ruler - so there's a mild mutual reception and a strong aspect.
I think that signifies a good change - at least of meeting someone she will like and who might consider a relationship with her....whether it will be come a full blown relationship in that period, I'm not sure but there's the prospect of at least something favourable.
Now if I'd have used the tenth for your Mother, she would have been signified by Venus and the significant other by Mars. Mars is at 17 Libra, Venus at 25 Gemini, so as with the situation with Mercury and Jupiter there is a separating favourable aspect (by Trine). He, (Mars) is in the sign of Venus, so he would be keen for a relationship. Venus however is not in a dignity of Mars So she wouldn't be keen on him.
There is no relationship by antiscia
The Moon is at 17 Aquarius in Partile Trine to Mars, but it's next aspect is the Trine to the Lot of Fortune and then Saturn, in close succession before it Trines Venus. It's a 'so near yet so far' situation.
I can't use Venus for her, but I can use the Sun for him. Sadly the Sextile between Sun and Venus has passed.
Both readings give a situation where a relationship is stressed and give relevant planets is possible positive outcomes. The first one does give a real possibility of at least a meeting with someone she will like, though whether he will feel strongly enough to continue it I'm not sure.
My feeling is the first is the best suggestion of what is likely to happen but both at least show the same general environment of romance.
jfiallo0982
05-08-2012, 02:35
That makes sense. I feel bad for her cause she claims she doesn't care but thats not true.
She is always talking about whether she will stay single or not.
Its going to be hard to tell her!! I think is mostly her fault she's alone, she likes them young!!
OMG I feel kind of bad saying that, but oh well!!
Thank you again, have a wonderful weekend!!!!
Minderwiz
05-08-2012, 03:13
Remember that the reading assumes she will act towards the goal of the question. If she stays at home and does nothing then nothing will happen. So at least you can suggest she goes out and socialises. In that case I think she'll meet someone .....how far it progresses thereafter is in their hands.
DevilishAngel
09-08-2012, 11:31
I'm taking this question in a similar way to the previous one. Based on Lilly's reading for 'future accidents' (events outside your control).
The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Libra, where it is exaltation, so your in good condition and good health at the moment. Saturn is in the seventh House, but it is a wide house and Saturn is sextile the Descendant, but more importantly, trine the Ascendant. It's always a good sign when the Ascendant ruler is in aspect to the Ascendant. Saturn has two aspects to planets, a close applying trine from Venus (angular in the fourth House) and a sextile from the Moon angular in the tenth House, Both these aspects are favourable and suggest that the favourable things will come from home, family and real estate (Venus) and from career and Actions (Moon).Good I do have some career changes coming up.
Venus rules the Second House of income, possessions and resources, and the eighth which usually relates to partner's resources, inheritences or taxation (eighth) or pay rise (second). As this is a trine, I don't think you're going to get a tax bill, lol - possibly a refund or small gift or inheritence. Venus is Peregrine, so it's not going to be much and you might need some help to get it. Venus also trines the Ascendant emphasising something coming your way.Cool :D Oh I got a 20 cent raise today! lol
Venus and the Moon are in opposition, which suggests that there might be some conflict involved. The Moon rules the sixth, usually associated with ill health or servants. Given that Saturn is quite strong in essential dignity, I don't see ill health as being a particularly significant threat, especially as the Moon is sextiling Saturn. So servants might be something of a problem lol - that can be tradesmen that you use, agents that you use as well as anyone who works under you in your career (such as a secretary).
lol I'll keep my servants on a tight leash :P
I don't take the opposition of Moon/Venus to be a threat of any kind, but it might signify difficult choices or that things don't work out smoothly - though they will work out.
The aspects to Saturn are very close, so I would think that the timing is likely to be earlier rather than later in the period. Saturn in a Cardinal or Moveable sign suggests some changes coming and a gain fairly swiftly.
The Lots of Fortune (things that befall you) and Spirit (Your choices to act) are ruled by Venus and the Moon respectively, though Saturn actually has more dignity at the place of the Lot of Fortune. There's no threat here, more promise again. In the Seventh that might relate to partnerships, but the Lot is actually some distance from the Descendant, so don't build your hopes up LOL.
Spirit is ruled by the Moon which is in the bounds and face of Saturn, and the Moon is applying to Saturn by sextile. I think you will be able to take the decisions and action that you need to achieve your goals during this period. The Lot of Spirit is in the Fifth, so perhaps romance and fun may have a place in the coming few months. Generally the Moon is not strong so, it's not going to be a hugely wonderful time but it is going to be positive, not negative.
Career, income and resources are the general areas that are favourable, there may just be something positive in how relax and have fun (and romance).
Good about career, I'm making some changes. I don't have many fun and/romantic opportunities so that'd be nice. I'll let you know if romance peaks around the corner ;)
Thanks :D
Minderwiz
16-08-2012, 22:46
My question is will I get married or be in a marriage like relationship in the next 18 months?
You had read for me before back in Jan in the DIY thread on a similar type question and you were right. There have been some changes since the time frame on that reading which had been 6 months. I hope that I can ask the same sort of question again. If not just let me know.
the background is that
I am still single. I have one of those it's complicated type relationships where it's one step forward and two steps back. I am trying, like always, to be open minded and not be so narrowly focused on is it going to be X.
The chart has Virgo rising, making your significator Mercury. Mercury is placed in Leo in the eleventh House. In Leo, Mercury is Peregrine, which is usually seen as a situation where you may need guidance or help and support to achieve your goals. The eleventh is concerned with Hopes and Aspirations, so the chart suggests you will need some help in achieving your hopes. The Sun rules Leo and is a natural significator of men in general and a husband or partner in particular. In this chart The Sun not only rules Leo but is the Triplicity ruler of the Fire Triplicity, so it is very powerful. There is no exaltation ruler in Leo but Mercury is in the Terms of Jupiter, and Jupiter is the symbol of the significant other. So that is a good overall situation, especially as Mercury is Direct and free from the Sun's beams and is not afflicted by any malefic.
Jupiter is the potential partner, and Jupiter is in Gemini in the ninth House, of Dreams, travel and higher learning. As Gemini is ruled by Mercury, the potential partner is going to be attracted to you, Jupiter too is Direct, free from the Sun's beams and free from malefic aspects.
The good thing is that Mercury is applying to a sextile with Jupiter and as there is some mutual reception (Ruler and Terms) that bodes very well.
The sextile and mutual reception are not the strongest indicators we could have but they are still pointing reasonably strongly at a positive outcome. At the very least I expect you to meet someone and seriously consider such a relationship, and they will be even more strongly in favour than you are. I think this could well work out. :)
Nytebugg
17-08-2012, 07:35
First let me thank you for all your work Minderwiz. I appreciate it. :)
I can say that mercury being peregrine in Leo is very much how i am feeling. A bit lost and in need of some help in the hopes and wishes. I try to be optimistic but some times that is difficult.
I like the rest of the reading as it is very nice and hopeful. Honestly, I can see things working out very well too. It's just one of those "feelings" that everything is going to work out nicely even though I might not see it right this instant. I like the potential of a positive outcome. very nice. :)
Minderwiz
29-08-2012, 03:02
like so many posters, it's weird that i've never had a horary reading before... but i'd like one, if you please!
i have, of course, a romance question (doesn't everyone?), but i think i'd like to concentrate instead on my living arrangements. i have made plans to change them to something i think will work better for me, but i'd like to know if you see any friction or a hitch in my plans or factors that i'm not considering (good or bad), and how pleased (or not) i will be with my next move. my time frame is for moving in october.
if you need any more information, please PM... and thank you so much for offering these!
I missed this when it was first posted but subsequent PM's have established that the real concern is the response of stefficus' sister to her plan's to move to a new apartment. In particular the question is now:
[b][i]What will be my sister's reactions to my plans to move?[i][b]
The first chart I tried had less than one degree rising, a sign that the chart is not valid. In the case of serious questions (and this is a serious question) it tends to mean that it might be too early to know the outcome.
I've since cast a second chart (I allow three goes before I decide the question can't be answered) and I've attached the chart to this post.
The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars. In this chart Mars is in Scorpio, in it's own Terms and Face, so you are essentially very strong here....which mirrors the current situation where your plans are being implemented and will be fulfilled. Mars is placed in the twelfth House, which is traditionally a weak placement in the chart, it can signify hidden things, sorrow, imprisonment, afflictions and self undoing. The relevant ones here are hidden (you have not revealed your plans or intentions to your sister) and possibly self undoing (there is clearly a fear that she might intervene in someway or sabotage your plans) And both of these are your clear main concerns. Mars makes no major aspect to the Ascendant, which is again a sign of some weakness but it is moving towards an application to a conjunction (It's currently 7.8 degrees from the conjunction and Mars has an orb of 7 degrees....you're almost at the point where your plans become clear and identified with you, you've gone public if you like but not quite yet. This is further reflected by Mars being in a separating sextile to the Sun, ruler of the tenth House of Actions, Career, Public Status, etc. A separating action shows things in the past, and it's clearly shown that you've already started the plans in motion.
Your sister is signified by Saturn, ruler of the third house of siblings. The chart shows that Mars is in a separating, and now out of sign, conjunction with Saturn. You are moving away from her into a new domicile. Saturn is also in the twelfth House, and could be identified as a 'private enemy; in the sense that she might take action of some sort to thwart your plans. Saturn is in it's exaltation sign of Libra, and is the triplicity ruler for the Air signs so it too has significant essential dignity, that is power to act. Indeed Saturn and Mars have equal essential dignity and the same accidental dignity, apart from Saturn being faster than normal.
Further more Saturn rules the fourth House, through Aquarius, and the fourth rules your home. Now that could be the current home, but the worry would be if it was your future home. As the cusp is in very late Aquarius (the 28th degree), I'm going to take this as your current home, the one that you will be shortly leaving. That fits in with what you have said, she rules the house (or at least has a major impact on how things are). Saturn also is in an applying trine to the fourth house cusp, further evidence of some power over your home.
Saturn is directly aspected by two planets, Mercury, by sextile (Mercury rules the eighth) and Venus by square (Venus rules Libra and through it the twelfth House). Neither of these aspects suggest increased power to act but they both suggest that she will be very, very, displeased by the news. In this chart, both are accidental malefics - through their rulerships of the unfortunate eighth and twelfth houses. As the aspects are applying they are stronger, and point to the future. Both are fairly close, so it's not going to be long before they have their effects.
The Moon which is a co-significator for you, has just separated from a square to Saturn and will eventually square Mars after it changes sign. That suggests that there will be a very difficult time ahead for you, from her, as the Moon is currently in the third house of siblings and will aspect Mars within that house. You can look forward to a very angry sister.
I think you know that already, the key question is can she stop it happening. Not by any direct action, but there will be a battle of wills in which you are evenly matched and you may find it very difficult to overcome her. If the fourth represented your new home, then I would say she'll win :( I still see the fourth as your existing home, because of the late degree which very often signifies a change coming up.
Cans she manage on her own? I would normally look at the second house from the third (that is the fourth house) to see the sibling's income and resources. However in this case Saturn rules both houses and apart from concluding that her only resources are the clothes she stands up in, I need a separate significator. There's no planet in the the fourth, nor is there an exaltation ruler, and the triplicity ruler is Saturn!
For this I'd have to take a natural significator of wealth and income - Jupiter. Saturn is in one of the minor dignities of Jupiter, so at least there's some connection. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Her resources are not good. Jupiter is also in the eighth house - an unfortunate placement - so there's little hope for immediate improvement.
I can see this as a very difficult situation and whilst you can realise your plans, it's not going to be without a struggle, and possible alienation from your sister. I don't see her easily managing on her own, either.
At a personal level, I'd say this is the time to talk to her about your plans and see if you can work something out in as calm an atmosphere as you can. Springing a fate accompli on her will not lead to an agreed solution in the short term and may have adverse repercussions in the longer term.
Good luck!!
stefficus
01-09-2012, 10:02
i'm sorry this is late... been working too much and haven't logged in. I missed this when it was first posted but subsequent PM's have established that the real concern is the response of stefficus' sister to her plan's to move to a new apartment. In particular the question is now:
What will be my sister's reactions to my plans to move?
The first chart I tried had less than one degree rising, a sign that the chart is not valid. In the case of serious questions (and this is a serious question) it tends to mean that it might be too early to know the outcome.
I've since cast a second chart (I allow three goes before I decide the question can't be answered) and I've attached the chart to this post.
The chart has Scorpio rising so you are signified by Mars. In this chart Mars is in Scorpio, in it's own Terms and Face, so you are essentially very strong here....which mirrors the current situation where your plans are being implemented and will be fulfilled. Mars is placed in the twelfth House, which is traditionally a weak placement in the chart, it can signify hidden things, sorrow, imprisonment, afflictions and self undoing. The relevant ones here are hidden (you have not revealed your plans or intentions to your sister) and possibly self undoing (there is clearly a fear that she might intervene in someway or sabotage your plans) And both of these are your clear main concerns. Mars makes no major aspect to the Ascendant, which is again a sign of some weakness but it is moving towards an application to a conjunction (It's currently 7.8 degrees from the conjunction and Mars has an orb of 7 degrees....you're almost at the point where your plans become clear and identified with you, you've gone public if you like but not quite yet. This is further reflected by Mars being in a separating sextile to the Sun, ruler of the tenth House of Actions, Career, Public Status, etc. A separating action shows things in the past, and it's clearly shown that you've already started the plans in motion.
true. part of the reason i haven't "gone public" is that mom and i discussed some of the other things going on last week and she agreed that it was probably best not to pile this one.
Your sister is signified by Saturn, ruler of the third house of siblings. The chart shows that Mars is in a separating, and now out of sign, conjunction with Saturn. You are moving away from her into a new domicile. Saturn is also in the twelfth House, and could be identified as a 'private enemy; in the sense that she might take action of some sort to thwart your plans. Saturn is in it's exaltation sign of Libra, and is the triplicity ruler for the Air signs so it too has significant essential dignity, that is power to act. Indeed Saturn and Mars have equal essential dignity and the same accidental dignity, apart from Saturn being faster than normal.
Further more Saturn rules the fourth House, through Aquarius, and the fourth rules your home. Now that could be the current home, but the worry would be if it was your future home. As the cusp is in very late Aquarius (the 28th degree), I'm going to take this as your current home, the one that you will be shortly leaving. That fits in with what you have said, she rules the house (or at least has a major impact on how things are). Saturn also is in an applying trine to the fourth house cusp, further evidence of some power over your home.
indeed. and this is why i think it may be a problem. she finds a way to thwart anything i want, and things are done according to her. but it is ME who is paying for the home.
Saturn is directly aspected by two planets, Mercury, by sextile (Mercury rules the eighth) and Venus by square (Venus rules Libra and through it the twelfth House). Neither of these aspects suggest increased power to act but they both suggest that she will be very, very, displeased by the news. In this chart, both are accidental malefics - through their rulerships of the unfortunate eighth and twelfth houses. As the aspects are applying they are stronger, and point to the future. Both are fairly close, so it's not going to be long before they have their effects.
The Moon which is a co-significator for you, has just separated from a square to Saturn and will eventually square Mars after it changes sign. That suggests that there will be a very difficult time ahead for you, from her, as the Moon is currently in the third house of siblings and will aspect Mars within that house. You can look forward to a very angry sister.
well, i'm kind of expecting that, yes. i think what she doesn't realize is that i, too, am feeling very angry, trapped, and deceived. but yeah... she'll be mad that i don't want to support her anymore, after being manipulated into the situation. heh.
I think you know that already, the key question is can she stop it happening. Not by any direct action, but there will be a battle of wills in which you are evenly matched and you may find it very difficult to overcome her. If the fourth represented your new home, then I would say she'll win :( I still see the fourth as your existing home, because of the late degree which very often signifies a change coming up.
Cans she manage on her own? I would normally look at the second house from the third (that is the fourth house) to see the sibling's income and resources. However in this case Saturn rules both houses and apart from concluding that her only resources are the clothes she stands up in, I need a separate significator. There's no planet in the the fourth, nor is there an exaltation ruler, and the triplicity ruler is Saturn! she has just graduated from grad school and does not yet have a job in her field.
For this I'd have to take a natural significator of wealth and income - Jupiter. Saturn is in one of the minor dignities of Jupiter, so at least there's some connection. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Her resources are not good. Jupiter is also in the eighth house - an unfortunate placement - so there's little hope for immediate improvement.
the part about this that frustrates me is that i'm working two part time jobs, six days a week, that i despise to support both of us while she would have resources if she would take a job that she maybe didn't want. she IS putting out a lot of resumes, so we keep hoping. i know she doesn't really like the situation either, but... yeah.
I can see this as a very difficult situation and whilst you can realise your plans, it's not going to be without a struggle, and possible alienation from your sister. I don't see her easily managing on her own, either.
At a personal level, I'd say this is the time to talk to her about your plans and see if you can work something out in as calm an atmosphere as you can. Springing a fate accompli on her will not lead to an agreed solution in the short term and may have adverse repercussions in the longer term.
yeah, part of the reason i was saving it was because she was out of town. *siiiiiiiiigh* this was never supposed to be for more than a couple of months, and wasn't really supposed to happen at all. but now that it HAS, it feels like she has settled in and i am not okay with that. i do not want to kick her out on the street. but if we continue this way, i WILL have a nervous breakdown and we will BOTH be out on the street. seriously. i can't do it. i'm just afraid she will never, ever see it that way.
Good luck!!
thank you! :laugh: i know i sound terribly whiny. i appreciate the reading!
scorpiogirl
11-09-2012, 02:51
OK that makes a lot of sense, so here goes:
I cast a chart yesterday for the question simply relating to travel plans and then thought that there might be something more to it than just a visit. I have attached the chart.
The chart has Scorpio rising, which in itself suggests a radical chart LOL. Mars is in Virgo in the tenth House of Activity Work and Career, so you may either have been at work or concerned with work around the time that you asked the question. Mars is in the Triplicity and Face of Venus, who rules the eleventh House of Friends (and Hopes and Aspirations) so he is a priority as well and Mars is in the Terms of Jupiter, so Money (probably the cost of the trip) is also on your list of priorities. Mars is not particularly strong in Virgo
As you have stressed that he is a friend, he's signified by Venus who rules the eleventh. Interestingly Venus also rules the Seventh of partners. Venus is in Gemini and currently in bad condition. She's retrograde in the eighth and under the Sun's Beams. Two indications here that she (He) cannot be seen. What's more being retrograde, she's moving away from Mars, not towards it.
The trip is signified by the Moon, ruler of the ninth House of overseas travel. The Moon is in Capricorn, where she is in Detriment (so the trip and it's planning are not strong. Moreover the Moon opposes the ninth cusp. I think there could well be problems with the trip and/or its planning
The good news though is that Mars is in a partile Trine to the Moon from Virgo to Capricorn. So you are almost certain to make the trip to Venice. The Moon is in the Exaltation and Face of Mars, so (astrologically) Mars receives the Moon into Capricorn and I think that is going to ensure that any problems with the trip are likely to be ones that can be overcome.
The issue of his feelings is a little more difficult. With Venus moving away from Mars, I think he is a going to be a little more 'distanct' with you. However Venus is at least in the Face of Mars, so there's some positive feeling there. I don't see it as being strongly romantic, or even particularly romantic at all. Venus is in it's own Terms, so he's more concerned with himself - The eighth House of the radical chart is the tenth House from the Eleventh, so his primary concern is his own career (not surprising given the information you've given) and the weakness of Venus in the chart might suggest that career will take him further away from you, though I can't be certain of that.
So, Yes the trip will go ahead but be prepared for some hitches or issues which are likely to be annoying rather than anything that really threatens your plans to much. You may find him more interested in being friends than anything else and perhaps more concerned with his career than any other single issue.
I am going to make it to Venice afterall. So far no big issues. I am not sure if I am seeing P. He expressed excitment when I told him I will go see him. I have to update on that later on. I will go in two months. Everything is booked and super excited. Thanks minderwiz.
Will update again about what happend with P and I.
Minderwiz
11-09-2012, 06:02
Thanks for the update scorpiogirl....good to know I got the first bit right: )
I OK forward to your further update....I learn from my errors, so if it turns out differently I want to know lol :)
daisy chain
27-09-2012, 06:23
hi m
you did a reading about a property i sold
and just to say you got things right
i did have to come down in price
and that i needed to do repairs to sweeten the deal
but not too much so all good and the sale goes through soon and i am very happ
thanx so much for the time spent on reading
Minderwiz
28-09-2012, 17:57
Thanks for the feedback! It really does help
Minderwiz
30-09-2012, 05:21
what will happen between me and W romantically
thx
Agreed time period 1 year and it refers to a live in relationship.
I'm reading this chart on the presumption that you are not already is a strong relationship, short of live in.
The Chart cast has Taurus rising, so your significator is Venus. Scorpio is on the Descendent so W's significator is Mars.
Venus is in Leo In the fifth House of Love and Romance, and is in the Terms and Face of Mars. The fifth cusp is in Leo, so your focus is certainly on romance and w in particular.
Mars is in his own sign of Scorpio conjunct the seventh cusp. Mars is actually much stronger in terms of dignity than Venus, being also the Water triplicity ruler by night and is angular. So W is far more likely to determine the outcome here than you are. Indeed Venus is Peregrine in Leo, meaning that you are in unfamilar territory here.
There is a square aspect between Venus and Mars, but it is separating. This suggests that things may be past the point of a successful outcome, (which anyway would have involved some difficulty).
The Moon's next major aspect is to Jupiter so there is no hope of translation of light, (a third party bringing you together) nor is there a slower planet that would perform the same function.
There's no link by antisica, so we come down to the two alternative significators of marriage, Venus for the Woman and the Sun for the Man.
Venus is already assigned to you as your primary significator so it play an additional role here. But the Sun can. However the Sun is in early Libra and will not be aspected by Venus before it changes sign (nor for that matter will it form a major aspect to Mars).
So the situation seems to be one of you being very keen here, but W is not (Mars is in the Detriment of Venus) and he is concerned primarily with himself. There seems to have been something of a chance recently but that chance may have passed. There is however one glimmer. Jupiter rules two of the Lots of Marriage for Females, and the Moon's next aspect is to Jupiter. The Moon can act as a co-significator for either you or him. Both Venus (Triplicity) and Mars (Terms) are in dignities of Jupiter however I think this is a long shot, especially as it's a sextile, the weakest major aspect.
So in summary, I can see why you are interested in W! However, I'm not sure that things will work out. W, is really the one in the controlling position and at the moment, he's not got you as a main priority. There might have been an opportunity recently, but that has passed. Your hope such that it is, is that The Moon, Jupiter aspect presents another (though weaker) opportunity. I was going to add that I think you will be lucky if that comes off, but Mars (W) rules the Lot of Fortune - again he controls your 'luck', so if you get what seems to be a 'lucky break' the chances will be that he engineered it.
Sorry I can't offer more hope, unless you are already dating. In that case I'd up the chances significantly, though I'd still say you'd be lucky to achieve it within the year.
Minderwiz
01-10-2012, 05:01
Namaste Minderwiz,
Hope you are doing fine.
It would be great to get a reading from you again your readings are so accurate and indepth.
The flat we purchased we paid lot of money but the construction is not going ahead its half done...we should have been getting the possession by now but the builder and his staff are not replying...
When will we get the possession of the house we bought at grihashakti?(Question)
The chart I cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars. Mars is conjunct both the Ascendant and als the North Node (which is benefic in nature). Mars in Scorpio and angular, conjunct the North Node shows that you are actually quite powerful and able to act in this chart. Your key priority is yourself (for obvious reasons). There's no exaltation planet in Scorpio but the Triplicity ruler by Day is Venus and Venus is the significator of the seller. So you are also concerned about the sale. Mars is also in the Face, of Venus adding to that concern.
Venus is in Leo,where she is Peregrine. So the seller is in worse shape than you. She is in the Terms and Face of Mars, so that signifies the Seller does have concerns about you. However their prime concern appears to be foreign travel (strongly so as the Sun not only rules Leo and the ninth, but is also the Triplicity ruler). This is a rather worrying situation, as you say that you have had no response from the seller to your queries. Either they have a foreign project that is concerning them, or they are seriously considering a foreign trip of some sort.
The Flat is signified by Jupiter ruler of the fourth. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini, indicating the Flat is in poor condition (as confirmed by your question information). Jupiter is in the Terms of Venus (the seller) and the Face of Mars (you). Currently the seller has more control over the property than you do. Jupiter is conjunct the eighth House cusp, which could further emphasise it's bad condition but too me, emphasises the seller's investment in materials,etc. as the eighth is the house of the seller's money and resources.
There is a separating square between Mars and Venus, which suggests recent contact between you and the seller before the time of the question. The square suggests that this contact was not favourable and again that reflects the circumstances you describe, the seller not providing satisfactory responses to your concerns, or even any response.
So will you get the flat?
Mars is not aspecting Jupiter, but the Moon, which acts as a co-significator for you is applying to Jupiter by sextile. This is a good sign because it shows that there is a good chance you will get possession of the Flat. The Moon must travel just over 5 degrees to reach Jupiter (which is moving very slowly in comparison). The issue is what does that mean in terms of time. Both planets are in succedent Houses which points to a medium time frame. The Moon is in a cardinal sign which suggersts a short period, Jupiter in a mutable sign which again is medium. So I think a medium term period. If days were the short period then weeks would be medium, so that would suggest 5 weeks.
However from your question you said the flat was half built. How fast is building work completed in India? If five weeks seems reasonable, then I would hold to that. However if building work is slow or subject to lengthy delays, then I would opt for months!
I'll let you be the guide there as you have seen the development and know more about local conditions.
So I think the seller has had some financial trouble. But it does look like you will get the flat, but not until 5 weeks at the least (dated from today).
NamasteIndia
01-10-2012, 21:17
The chart I cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars. Mars is conjunct both the Ascendant and als the North Node (which is benefic in nature). Mars in Scorpio and angular, conjunct the North Node shows that you are actually quite powerful and able to act in this chart. Your key priority is yourself (for obvious reasons). There's no exaltation planet in Scorpio but the Triplicity ruler by Day is Venus and Venus is the significator of the seller. So you are also concerned about the sale. Mars is also in the Face, of Venus adding to that concern.
Venus is in Leo,where she is Peregrine. So the seller is in worse shape than you. She is in the Terms and Face of Mars, so that signifies the Seller does have concerns about you. However their prime concern appears to be foreign travel (strongly so as the Sun not only rules Leo and the ninth, but is also the Triplicity ruler). This is a rather worrying situation, as you say that you have had no response from the seller to your queries. Either they have a foreign project that is concerning them, or they are seriously considering a foreign trip of some sort.
they could be having a jail term or some litigation etc......recently i read on net about lot of people putting up complaints.
The Flat is signified by Jupiter ruler of the fourth. Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini, indicating the Flat is in poor condition (as confirmed by your question information). Jupiter is in the Terms of Venus (the seller) and the Face of Mars (you). Currently the seller has more control over the property than you do. Jupiter is conjunct the eighth House cusp, which could further emphasise it's bad condition but too me, emphasises the seller's investment in materials,etc. as the eighth is the house of the seller's money and resources.
There is a separating square between Mars and Venus, which suggests recent contact between you and the seller before the time of the question. The square suggests that this contact was not favourable and again that reflects the circumstances you describe, the seller not providing satisfactory responses to your concerns, or even any response.
recently we had a spate with the builder he got frustrated and was saying that due to supply of materials the work as got stuck etc....he clearly sounded angry etc.
So will you get the flat?
Mars is not aspecting Jupiter, but the Moon, which acts as a co-significator for you is applying to Jupiter by sextile. This is a good sign because it shows that there is a good chance you will get possession of the Flat. The Moon must travel just over 5 degrees to reach Jupiter (which is moving very slowly in comparison). The issue is what does that mean in terms of time. Both planets are in succedent Houses which points to a medium time frame. The Moon is in a cardinal sign which suggersts a short period, Jupiter in a mutable sign which again is medium. So I think a medium term period. If days were the short period then weeks would be medium, so that would suggest 5 weeks.
However from your question you said the flat was half built. How fast is building work completed in India? If five weeks seems reasonable, then I would hold to that. However if building work is slow or subject to lengthy delays, then I would opt for months!
I'll let you be the guide there as you have seen the development and know more about local conditions.
So I think the seller has had some financial trouble. But it does look like you will get the flat, but not until 5 weeks at the least (dated from today).
5 weeks means mid of November i dont think thats possible since lot of pending work is there...i think it may take 5 months more....
looking at the construction delays it will take surely 5 months
Thanks for the reading though.
I will let you know of the progress.
Minderwiz
02-10-2012, 00:40
think it may take 5 months more....
looking at the construction delays it will take surely 5 months
Thanks for the reading though.
I will let you know of the progress.
Yes my feeling was 5 months minimum but I just wanted to check your own 'on the spot' observations.
I found this an odd reading because the chart seems to point to the builder 'doing a runner' because of financial issues (material shortages are due to their poor finances), yet the chart also suggests that you will get possession. I haven't read for legal proceedings or other pressures that may make the builder complete but it does look as though there will be a happy ending, if a very frustrating middle section.
NamasteIndia
02-10-2012, 00:46
Yes my feeling was 5 months minimum but I just wanted to check your own 'on the spot' observations.
I found this an odd reading because the chart seems to point to the builder 'doing a runner' because of financial issues (material shortages are due to their poor finances), yet the chart also suggests that you will get possession. I haven't read for legal proceedings or other pressures that may make the builder complete but it does look as though there will be a happy ending, if a very frustrating middle section.
Ok sounds good....a happy ending means i can atleast sleep peacefully.
Because scenario is quite dicey now with the builder doing hide and seek
thanks again.
Minderwiz
03-10-2012, 02:56
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?t=160608&page=6
You did this reading for me and I asked if I would meet someone important within a year. A few weeks before that year was up, I did and it's exactly how it was described by you. Off and on and not easy, but in other ways great.
Could you please do another regarding us, from now? Many thanks
Thank you! I would like us to make a commitment to one another and make a go of forming a relationship that has a more secure and realistic future.
The chart has Taurus rising which indicates that you are signified by Venus, in the fifth House of Romance, so your mind is truly on this match. Venus is in Leo, where it is Peregrine but in the Terms and Face of Mars - his significator. You're not sure of your way here, how to get what you want. But you are definitely interested in him.
He is signified by Mars, which is in the Seventh House and in Scorpio. He's on his own territory and very much in command. So his attitude is going to be the key here to long term success. As Mars is the Water triplicity ruler by night, as well, he's full of self confidence. The only dignity of Venus that Mars occupies is that of Face - the weakest of them all. And Mars is in the Detriment of Venus. His feelings seem to be mixed in regard to you.
Venus and Mars are in a separating square, so in the recent past the relationship has been more 'off' than 'on' and I suspect he's not communicating in a positive way at the moment. The separation suggests the end of the relationship rather than the start of a firmer one. However there may be other factors here.
The next thing to check for is Translation of Light - usually through the Moon. Now the Moon is indeed separating from an aspect to Mars but it is a quincunx from Aries to Scorpio and in traditional terms, that is a inconjunct relationship. As the Moon's next major aspect is to Venus, it would have been nice to have that Moon Mars separating aspect as a major one, suggesting that a third party will bring you together.
The Moon is often taken as the co-significator for the querent, but I have seen authors use it as a general co-significator, that can 'effect' the necessary conditions. If that were so, I could draw the conclusion that this coming aspect suggests a happy conclusion. However not all authors use the Moon in this way and I don't usually either. The Moon signifies your emotions, so at the moment you appear to be 'recovering' from an emotional clash with him, or at least he is indirectly affecting your emotions. Given the inconjunct contact with Mars, that's more likely to be through ignoring them, rather than directly upsetting them.
Given that his feelings are ambivalent, you should perhaps question his motives here. As his top priority is him, is he only interested in you because you make him feel better about himself. I think that area really needs to be cleared up before you start making any commitments.
As both planets lie on the same side of the solstice line, there's no contact by antiscia so again no likelyhiood that that will bring a positive outcome.
In questions of this type of relationship it's possible to use additional significators, Venus for the female (already in play) and the Sun for the male. Whilst Venus and the Sun are in sextile by sign, the sepaation is far too wide and in the wrong direction. So I don't see these indicating a positive outcome.
So at the moment, the chart doesn't show that a committed relationship is likely, The strong feelings are more on your side than his, he's more ambivalent. Mars being in a fixed sign I don't see his attitude easily changing either. I think he's happy with the situation, but you are not. You know what you would like here, the question is 'Does he want the same thing' and at the moment I don't think he does. :(
The chart has Taurus rising which indicates that you are signified by Venus, in the fifth House of Romance, so your mind is truly on this match. Venus is in Leo, where it is Peregrine but in the Terms and Face of Mars - his significator. You're not sure of your way here, how to get what you want. But you are definitely interested in him.
He is signified by Mars, which is in the Seventh House and in Scorpio. He's on his own territory and very much in command. So his attitude is going to be the key here to long term success. As Mars is the Water triplicity ruler by night, as well, he's full of self confidence. The only dignity of Venus that Mars occupies is that of Face - the weakest of them all. And Mars is in the Detriment of Venus. His feelings seem to be mixed in regard to you.
Venus and Mars are in a separating square, so in the recent past the relationship has been more 'off' than 'on' and I suspect he's not communicating in a positive way at the moment. The separation suggests the end of the relationship rather than the start of a firmer one. However there may be other factors here.
The next thing to check for is Translation of Light - usually through the Moon. Now the Moon is indeed separating from an aspect to Mars but it is a quincunx from Aries to Scorpio and in traditional terms, that is a inconjunct relationship. As the Moon's next major aspect is to Venus, it would have been nice to have that Moon Mars separating aspect as a major one, suggesting that a third party will bring you together.
The Moon is often taken as the co-significator for the querent, but I have seen authors use it as a general co-significator, that can 'effect' the necessary conditions. If that were so, I could draw the conclusion that this coming aspect suggests a happy conclusion. However not all authors use the Moon in this way and I don't usually either. The Moon signifies your emotions, so at the moment you appear to be 'recovering' from an emotional clash with him, or at least he is indirectly affecting your emotions. Given the inconjunct contact with Mars, that's more likely to be through ignoring them, rather than directly upsetting them.
Given that his feelings are ambivalent, you should perhaps question his motives here. As his top priority is him, is he only interested in you because you make him feel better about himself. I think that area really needs to be cleared up before you start making any commitments.
As both planets lie on the same side of the solstice line, there's no contact by antiscia so again no likelyhiood that that will bring a positive outcome.
In questions of this type of relationship it's possible to use additional significators, Venus for the female (already in play) and the Sun for the male. Whilst Venus and the Sun are in sextile by sign, the sepaation is far too wide and in the wrong direction. So I don't see these indicating a positive outcome.
So at the moment, the chart doesn't show that a committed relationship is likely, The strong feelings are more on your side than his, he's more ambivalent. Mars being in a fixed sign I don't see his attitude easily changing either. I think he's happy with the situation, but you are not. You know what you would like here, the question is 'Does he want the same thing' and at the moment I don't think he does. :(
Aw that's very disappointing.
Nearly everything you said is correct, apart from I make him feel good about himself. You see, I'm not sure if I do/did. He said a lot of the time I didn't because he never knew where he stood with me. This was said in the last conversation we had. He said me being off and on constantly really took it's toll on him.
Also, I really don't think he's happy at all with the situation he's in now.
When you say he's in demand what do you mean?
Many, many thanks for the reading.
Minderwiz
03-10-2012, 05:56
Aw that's very disappointing.
Nearly everything you said is correct, apart from I make him feel good about himself. You see, I'm not sure if I do/did. He said a lot of the time I didn't because he never knew where he stood with me. This was said in the last conversation we had. He said me being off and on constantly really took it's toll on him.
Also, I really don't think he's happy at all with the situation he's in now.
When you say he's in demand what do you mean?
Many, many thanks for the reading.
This is one of those readings that I really hope I have got wrong
I don't see it coming apart though, merely not progressing to the level you want in the time period you gave.
By him in command I mean that he has more power to affect the outcome than you. He is more concerned with his own needs at the moment. His thoughts about you are ambivalent or ambiguous now the possibilities are that he sees you as a 'trophy' or at least someone who's role is to boost his self esteem and 'status' or he has some genuine problems relating to you. I might be wrong about him being happy with the situation. I read that from Mars being very strong, angular and in it's own house....He is unlikely to budge here. He expects you to come to him and 'put things right'. However he's the one with the power, if he refuses to use it then little will change.
I hope things work out better than my reading.
This is one of those readings that I really hope I have got wrong
I don't see it coming apart though, merely not progressing to the level you want in the time period you gave.
By him in command I mean that he has more power to affect the outcome than you. He is more concerned with his own needs at the moment. His thoughts about you are ambivalent or ambiguous now the possibilities are that he sees you as a 'trophy' or at least someone who's role is to boost his self esteem and 'status' or he has some genuine problems relating to you. I might be wrong about him being happy with the situation. I read that from Mars being very strong, angular and in it's own house....He is unlikely to budge here. He expects you to come to him and 'put things right'. However he's the one with the power, if he refuses to use it then little will change.
I hope things work out better than my reading.
You were right about this and I've ended it because of these exact reasons. I feel better now.
Well done! :D
Minderwiz
06-10-2012, 01:56
Hi Minderwiz
Can I ask a question? You did a reading for me a couple of months back and it was fantastic !!
Currently I am unemployed and looking for work so I would like to know if I will find a job within the next three months
Thanks :)
This has been a difficult reading, simply in getting a valid chart. I have tried on four occasions, getting a couple of charts that were either late or early degrees rising, plus one that I 'mislaid'.
The chart I'm reading here is one that I cast after the invalid charts. Since I cast it, I've found the mislaid one, from yesterday, so I'm going to include that as well.
The chart has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is retrograde in the sixth house in its detriment of Gemini. Things are bad for you at the moment. and that's probably a bit of an understatement.
The job is signified by the MC ruler, which is Mars. Mars is in Scorpio, so it is highly dignified. The job is good. However Mars is in the penultimate degree of Scorpio, so the future of the job is not so good. Perhaps it's a temporary job or short term contract, or the organisation may run into difficulties in the future.
Given Mars position in the Eleventh House, I suspect that the latter possibility might be the most likely. Currently Mars is in the house of the Job's resources and is strong. But as Mar's is about to change signs both job and resources are likely to be substantially weakened. With Mercury conjunct the MC, it's likely that the job is in some way or other related to communications, design, computers or graphical work.
There's no immediate aspect forming between Mars and Jupiter, indeed the two are actually moving away from each other. However the Moon is about to conjoin Jupiter and there are a number of Horary Astrologers who would see the Moon as acting as a co-significator not only for the querent (you) but also the questited (the job). If so this promises a successful outcome in terms of getting a job in the next three months. The Moon however is currently trining the Sun, which is Lord 8, and therefore not a benefic planet in this chart.
Your income is signified by Saturn, ruler of the second House. Saturn is in the last hours of it's stay in Libra, so that suggests change, though not particularly change for the better. I doubt the job will bring in much more than you are getting now, indeed it's possibly less.
So a chance of a job in the next three months, but the job is not particularly good, nor does it pay particularly well. It might seem good at the time you apply and are offered it but I'm not sure it will last for very long.
The second chart (Jezzabelle extra) is the one that I mislaid.
This chart has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon in Gemini. The Moon is Peregrine in the eleventh house of hopes and aspirations. You want the job but you're not sure how to get it, without help.
The Job is signified by Jupiter, which is also in Gemini in the eleventh - the job is definitely something you hope for but retrograde and in detriment, the job is not particularly good.
The Moon is applying to a conjunction with Jupiter - which if perfected as the next aspect, would strongly suggest you get the job. However, before the Moon can perfect the aspect she first trines the Libra Sun. Now in this chart, the Sun rules your second house of income and resources. So it's possible that you might come into money from another source (though not much as the Sun is in Fall in Libra) In the first chart the Sun ruled the eighth House, and the eighth is the Partner's income. So if you have a partner it's possible that the will receive money (first chart) or you will receive money (second chart) which means that you do not need the job.
So. Whilst there are jobs out there which you might obtain, they do not seem to be long term prospects and the associated money is not good (at least after a relatively short period). Your chances of getting a job, whilst not strong are at least there. Hopefully you will not need to take the first one you come across, as you may achieve some income from another source.
Jezzabelle
06-10-2012, 13:30
This has been a difficult reading, simply in getting a valid chart. I have tried on four occasions, getting a couple of charts that were either late or early degrees rising, plus one that I 'mislaid'.
The chart I'm reading here is one that I cast after the invalid charts. Since I cast it, I've found the mislaid one, from yesterday, so I'm going to include that as well.
The chart has Sagittarius rising, so you are signified by Jupiter. Jupiter is retrograde in the sixth house in its detriment of Gemini. Things are bad for you at the moment. and that's probably a bit of an understatement.
The job is signified by the MC ruler, which is Mars. Mars is in Scorpio, so it is highly dignified. The job is good. However Mars is in the penultimate degree of Scorpio, so the future of the job is not so good. Perhaps it's a temporary job or short term contract, or the organisation may run into difficulties in the future.
Given Mars position in the Eleventh House, I suspect that the latter possibility might be the most likely. Currently Mars is in the house of the Job's resources and is strong. But as Mar's is about to change signs both job and resources are likely to be substantially weakened. With Mercury conjunct the MC, it's likely that the job is in some way or other related to communications, design, computers or graphical work.
There's no immediate aspect forming between Mars and Jupiter, indeed the two are actually moving away from each other. However the Moon is about to conjoin Jupiter and there are a number of Horary Astrologers who would see the Moon as acting as a co-significator not only for the querent (you) but also the questited (the job). If so this promises a successful outcome in terms of getting a job in the next three months. The Moon however is currently trining the Sun, which is Lord 8, and therefore not a benefic planet in this chart.
Your income is signified by Saturn, ruler of the second House. Saturn is in the last hours of it's stay in Libra, so that suggests change, though not particularly change for the better. I doubt the job will bring in much more than you are getting now, indeed it's possibly less.
So a chance of a job in the next three months, but the job is not particularly good, nor does it pay particularly well. It might seem good at the time you apply and are offered it but I'm not sure it will last for very long.
Thank you so much for doing this reading for me !! I always find these so interesting and very informative :)
I am not surprised at all that you had trouble getting a chart, I have been very all over the place in terms of deciding what to do career wise. A couple of years back I decided to change careers and try to become a writer, but it has been difficult so I have reluctantly decided to go back to what I was doing before which was working in an office as a receptionist/ office assistant.
In the past I was signed up with a temping agency and I have been thinking of going back to that. The problem with temping is you can go weeks at a time with no work and when you do get some it can only be for a day or two so you don't make a lot of money at all. But I do like that with this kind of work I can still work on my writing. I also would take part time work or a short term contract.
The second chart (Jezzabelle extra) is the one that I mislaid.
This chart has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon in Gemini. The Moon is Peregrine in the eleventh house of hopes and aspirations. You want the job but you're not sure how to get it, without help.
The Job is signified by Jupiter, which is also in Gemini in the eleventh - the job is definitely something you hope for but retrograde and in detriment, the job is not particularly good.
The Moon is applying to a conjunction with Jupiter - which if perfected as the next aspect, would strongly suggest you get the job. However, before the Moon can perfect the aspect she first trines the Libra Sun. Now in this chart, the Sun rules your second house of income and resources. So it's possible that you might come into money from another source (though not much as the Sun is in Fall in Libra) In the first chart the Sun ruled the eighth House, and the eighth is the Partner's income. So if you have a partner it's possible that the will receive money (first chart) or you will receive money (second chart) which means that you do not need the job.
So. Whilst there are jobs out there which you might obtain, they do not seem to be long term prospects and the associated money is not good (at least after a relatively short period). Your chances of getting a job, whilst not strong are at least there. Hopefully you will not need to take the first one you come across, as you may achieve some income from another source.
I was also going to go to other employment agencies and register with them because I was hoping they would help me to find a job. I actually am the kind of person who would take the first job that get's offered to me LOL not good I know !! It's only because I need the work even if it was a job I didn't like I would still take it. I don't have a partner so the extra income is interesting, I'm really not sure how that would come about though so I'll have to make sure I keep an eye out for it !!
I hope I have given you enough feedback and thank you once again for the reading :)
Minderwiz
08-10-2012, 09:12
Hello again, Minderwiz!
Repeat offense #4 for me if you're still offering readings.
This time it's a work related question. I am truly starting to hate my job. Never really liked it, but didn't hate it either. There have been many rapid changes over the past few months, all for the worse. I've talked about leaving the job for years but never really was serious about it. Now, however, I'm thinking it might be the best thing.
My question is basically if I do decide to stay, how will the next 6 months play out for me?
Thank you in advance once again. Your readings have been superb.
The chart has Capricorn rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio and the ninth House. The current job is signified by Mars, ruler of the MC. Saturn has just moved into Scorpio, which, although new territory, is a sign in which Saturn has no essential dignity. Saturn is in the Sign, Terms and Face of Mars. So there has been a change but one that has made the job even more dominant in your life and in your thoughts.
The other planet with dignity at Saturn's position is Venus, ruler of the Water Triplicity by Day. Venus also rules the ninth House. I think this placement in the 'House of God' probably indicates your desires for an escape from your current conditions.
Mars too has changed signs and is now in Sagittarius. Again this is a big reduction in dignity. The job has become less valuable in your eyes, though being in the eleventh House it shows your hopes and aspirations are still connected to the job, as shown by the question, not in an optimistic way but some residual hope nevertheless. So the past has brought change but not change for the better.
The burden of your question is will there be any change in the next six months, with the implication that that change should be for the better. There are therefore three possibilities, change for the better, change for the worse or no change at all (from the situation described above and in your own background information).
There's no aspect forming between Saturn and Mars. In modern terms, the two are in a semi-sextile relationship but this is very weak and will not produce the desired change in a horary. There's no connection by antiscia either so the only hope lies in the movements and aspects of the Moon, which can act as a co-significator for you.
The Moon is in 6 degrees Cancer, conjunct the Descendant. In its own sign and angular it is powerful and well positioned. The Moon's last aspect was to Venus who is ruler of the ninth and Triplicity and House ruler of Saturn. This is again a statement of events in the past, your growing need for improvement.
The Moon's next aspect is to the Sun in Libra by square. The Sun rules the eighth House and as such is an accidental malefic. This is not a good aspect and it does suggest that the next six months will not be easy and may even be worse.
The Moon's final aspect before it changes sign is a trine to the North Node, which is seen as benefic. This suggests that the six months might end on a better note. The square to the Sun is already applying, so if it brings hard times, they will not be far off...perhaps as near as the next six weeks.
That's something of a mixed bag but with the emphasis more on difficulties than an easing of pressure. The job will still be there in six months, if you decide to stay but I can't say things will be better than they are now, just a bit better than they are going to be.
EyeAmEye
08-10-2012, 11:46
The chart has Capricorn rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio and the ninth House. The current job is signified by Mars, ruler of the MC. Saturn has just moved into Scorpio, which, although new territory, is a sign in which Saturn has no essential dignity. Saturn is in the Sign, Terms and Face of Mars. So there has been a change but one that has made the job even more dominant in your life and in your thoughts.
The other planet with dignity at Saturn's position is Venus, ruler of the Water Triplicity by Day. Venus also rules the ninth House. I think this placement in the 'House of God' probably indicates your desires for an escape from your current conditions.
Mars too has changed signs and is now in Sagittarius. Again this is a big reduction in dignity. The job has become less valuable in your eyes, though being in the eleventh House it shows your hopes and aspirations are still connected to the job, as shown by the question, not in an optimistic way but some residual hope nevertheless. So the past has brought change but not change for the better.
The burden of your question is will there be any change in the next six months, with the implication that that change should be for the better. There are therefore three possibilities, change for the better, change for the worse or no change at all (from the situation described above and in your own background information).
There's no aspect forming between Saturn and Mars. In modern terms, the two are in a semi-sextile relationship but this is very weak and will not produce the desired change in a horary. There's no connection by antiscia either so the only hope lies in the movements and aspects of the Moon, which can act as a co-significator for you.
The Moon is in 6 degrees Cancer, conjunct the Descendant. In its own sign and angular it is powerful and well positioned. The Moon's last aspect was to Venus who is ruler of the ninth and Triplicity and House ruler of Saturn. This is again a statement of events in the past, your growing need for improvement.
The Moon's next aspect is to the Sun in Libra by square. The Sun rules the eighth House and as such is an accidental malefic. This is not a good aspect and it does suggest that the next six months will not be easy and may even be worse.
The Moon's final aspect before it changes sign is a trine to the North Node, which is seen as benefic. This suggests that the six months might end on a better note. The square to the Sun is already applying, so if it brings hard times, they will not be far off...perhaps as near as the next six weeks.
That's something of a mixed bag but with the emphasis more on difficulties than an easing of pressure. The job will still be there in six months, if you decide to stay but I can't say things will be better than they are now, just a bit better than they are going to be.
Yep, that seems about right...
Over the next several months, there is a massive data migration from our current system to a new system that up until now, no one on our staff has even seen. Training starts next week and testing of the system runs through April. This is a huge change that will without question demand a lot from every staff member. On top of it, we are expected to run "business as usual" through the conversion, which seems nigh impossible.
That actually wouldn't be so bad to me. I don't really mind a lot of work and can be pretty efficient when I want to be, but making matters worse is we are losing a few staff members due to a new manager that is not jelling with us. Our staff has never been perfect, but we've had a good report with each other and have worked as a unit for nearly 6 years. Bringing in new staff in midst of a massive conversion, having to train them (a job that will undoubtedly land in my lap) while being trained on a new system myself and then testing it all the while keeping the office running is going to make things, to put it mildly, "miserable".
The silver lining, if one chooses to look at it this way, is that I am in a very good financial spot which allows me to decide to leave whenever I choose. I stay for several reasons (mostly personal, the job really doesn't matter to me at all ultimately) and will leave when and if I feel the situation will not improve. If your reading is correct (the part about the next 6 months being rough cannot be more accurate) about improvement after the 6 month period, it might be worth hanging around. An opportunity may spring up in all of this.
Thanks yet again for your time and effort, it is greatly appreciated.
Minderwiz
10-10-2012, 05:39
I have never had this type of reading. Could you possibly read on my love life?
B
Oh yay!!! Not in a relationship....:(. I havent been in a lengthy relationship for about 2 years. My main concern is that i am in my late 30s, and still want to have children. A year forecast would be fantastic! Thank you!
As there's currently no relationship my reading is to determine whether there will be one by the end of a year and more generally what the flow of events will be.
The chart cast has Gemini rising, which means that your significator is Mercury. Mercury is in Scorpio and the sixth House. Mercury in Scorpo is Peregrine, that is it has no dignity of its own at its current degree. This is not a strong situation because it usually indicates estrangement or a feeling of being out of touch or needing help and guidance. At best it can indicate a feeling of not knowing which is the right direction to go or the right choice to make. The sixth House is a weak house, being inconjunct the Ascendant. Traditionally it is described as not 'beholding' or seeing the Ascendant (and therefore not easily being seen by others). So you are not in a good position to be 'noticed' by potential suitors, and you're not sure what to do about it.
The potential suitor is signified by the ruler of the Descendant (the seventh House cusp) and as this is in Sagittarius, the ruler is Jupiter. Now Jupiter is in Gemini, in the twelfth house, just over four degrees from the Ascendant. Now I'd usually take a planet that close to the Ascendant to be a first House planet, putting the potential suitor right in your territory. As it is, Jupiter is Retrograde and is moving away from the Ascendant, so I'm loathe to treat him as first House. He is however in Gemini, and Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Usually this would be taken as a sign, not that the suitor would not like you but more that he would feel vulnerable and ill at ease, advancing his interest.
As Jupiter is in an Air sign and Mercury also rules the Air Triplicity by night, I think it's very likely that he would have positive feelings towards you if you met. The Twelfth however, is also inconjunct the Ascendant, and therefore he too is not easily seen.
So the first problem is that of actually meeting someone. There is someone out there who would find you attractive and be interested in a relationship but neither you nor he are 'prominently displayed' or are attracting the attention of the other.
Mercury is not applying to a major aspect to Jupiter, indeed it's moving further away. So there does not seem any immediate prospect of you and possible suitor coming together. There are other ways that it could be done besides through an mutual aspect between these two planets.
The first alternative is that a third planet successively aspects (or is aspected by) the other two. This would signify a third party bringing the two of you together. That might be through a mutusl friend or through organising a party or other event which you both attend, or it could be a website or indeed any other medium that causes you to notice each other.
Now the third planet has either got to be faster than the other two, so that it aspects one and then the other. Alternatively it must be slower than both of the other two, so that they aspect it in turn. Only one planet is faster than Mercury and that is the Moon.
In the chart the Moon is at 4 degrees Leo and its next major aspect will be to Mercury at 6 degrees Scorpio by square. It's next major aspect after that will be a sextile to Jupiter in Gemini. So this looks very promising. The only caution is that a square aspect can mean delays, obstacles or other problems and a sextile is the weakest form of major aspect. Nevertheless there is real promise here.
This meeting will not be easy to come by, the chart strongly indicates that it will come about through the actions of a third party (individual or organisation) and that you will probably be reluctant to go alorng with it or will be faced with delays or obstructions which you will need to overcome. I don't think at first sight it will appear a 'romantic opportunity' or something that is likely to result in a new relationship but don't forget that many relationships stary in that fashion. Meeting someone when you don't expect to.
If you have health problems (the sixth can indicate health problems) that might be the route, especially if you have to attend a hospital or clinic (Mars the ruler of Mercury rules the twelfth house of institutions such as hospitals and Jupiter lies in the twelfth.) Indeed you don't have to be the person with health issues, as long as you either work in the health industry or have to take someone to such an institution. Now I'm not guaranteeing that but using it as a possible example, partly supported by the chart, which would serve to bring two people together against their expectations. Be prepared for any invitation or opportunity that comes your way.
So now guarantees but there is a good chance of success. Just be ready
Bluebonnet
10-10-2012, 06:18
As there's currently no relationship my reading is to determine whether there will be one by the end of a year and more generally what the flow of events will be.
The chart cast has Gemini rising, which means that your significator is Mercury. Mercury is in Scorpio and the sixth House. Mercury in Scorpo is Peregrine, that is it has no dignity of its own at its current degree. This is not a strong situation because it usually indicates estrangement or a feeling of being out of touch or needing help and guidance. At best it can indicate a feeling of not knowing which is the right direction to go or the right choice to make. The sixth House is a weak house, being inconjunct the Ascendant. Traditionally it is described as not 'beholding' or seeing the Ascendant (and therefore not easily being seen by others). So you are not in a good position to be 'noticed' by potential suitors, and you're not sure what to do about it.
The potential suitor is signified by the ruler of the Descendant (the seventh House cusp) and as this is in Sagittarius, the ruler is Jupiter. Now Jupiter is in Gemini, in the twelfth house, just over four degrees from the Ascendant. Now I'd usually take a planet that close to the Ascendant to be a first House planet, putting the potential suitor right in your territory. As it is, Jupiter is Retrograde and is moving away from the Ascendant, so I'm loathe to treat him as first House. He is however in Gemini, and Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini. Usually this would be taken as a sign, not that the suitor would not like you but more that he would feel vulnerable and ill at ease, advancing his interest.
As Jupiter is in an Air sign and Mercury also rules the Air Triplicity by night, I think it's very likely that he would have positive feelings towards you if you met. The Twelfth however, is also inconjunct the Ascendant, and therefore he too is not easily seen.
So the first problem is that of actually meeting someone. There is someone out there who would find you attractive and be interested in a relationship but neither you nor he are 'prominently displayed' or are attracting the attention of the other.
Mercury is not applying to a major aspect to Jupiter, indeed it's moving further away. So there does not seem any immediate prospect of you and possible suitor coming together. There are other ways that it could be done besides through an mutual aspect between these two planets.
The first alternative is that a third planet successively aspects (or is aspected by) the other two. This would signify a third party bringing the two of you together. That might be through a mutusl friend or through organising a party or other event which you both attend, or it could be a website or indeed any other medium that causes you to notice each other.
Now the third planet has either got to be faster than the other two, so that it aspects one and then the other. Alternatively it must be slower than both of the other two, so that they aspect it in turn. Only one planet is faster than Mercury and that is the Moon.
In the chart the Moon is at 4 degrees Leo and its next major aspect will be to Mercury at 6 degrees Scorpio by square. It's next major aspect after that will be a sextile to Jupiter in Gemini. So this looks very promising. The only caution is that a square aspect can mean delays, obstacles or other problems and a sextile is the weakest form of major aspect. Nevertheless there is real promise here.
This meeting will not be easy to come by, the chart strongly indicates that it will come about through the actions of a third party (individual or organisation) and that you will probably be reluctant to go alorng with it or will be faced with delays or obstructions which you will need to overcome. I don't think at first sight it will appear a 'romantic opportunity' or something that is likely to result in a new relationship but don't forget that many relationships stary in that fashion. Meeting someone when you don't expect to.
If you have health problems (the sixth can indicate health problems) that might be the route, especially if you have to attend a hospital or clinic (Mars the ruler of Mercury rules the twelfth house of institutions such as hospitals and Jupiter lies in the twelfth.) Indeed you don't have to be the person with health issues, as long as you either work in the health industry or have to take someone to such an institution. Now I'm not guaranteeing that but using it as a possible example, partly supported by the chart, which would serve to bring two people together against their expectations. Be prepared for any invitation or opportunity that comes your way.
So now guarantees but there is a good chance of success. Just be ready
Thank you!
Well, I looked at the chart. I would not know how to begin to read it.
I don't go out on the town as often anymore nor am I in school, so it is hard to be "be seen".
I do work in healthcare, and that is how my ex and I met.
So, from what I am reading, there will be a chance that I will meet this man within a year. This meeting will take place from an invitation like a gathering or a party.
Well, it sounds promising! I can't give you too much feedback because it takes place in the future. Thank you so much for the detailed reading!
B
Minderwiz
10-10-2012, 23:45
Thank you!
Well, I looked at the chart. I would not know how to begin to read it.
I don't go out on the town as often anymore nor am I in school, so it is hard to be "be seen".
I do work in healthcare, and that is how my ex and I met.
So, from what I am reading, there will be a chance that I will meet this man within a year. This meeting will take place from an invitation like a gathering or a party.
Well, it sounds promising! I can't give you too much feedback because it takes place in the future. Thank you so much for the detailed reading!
B
Yes it should be within your time period of a year. As you work in health care, I'd see it more likely that you meet him in the course of your duties (which is largely determined by a third party).
Minderwiz
13-10-2012, 07:10
Hi Minderwiz!
Your last horary reading for me was so spot-on, I'd love to get a second reading from you if you're still offering readings :)
I'd love to know what my love life holds for me this school year. I'm really busy with work and school but there is a guy I have an eye on and I'm really curious to see if things will develop with him or with anyone else!
The chart cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars and the guy you have Your eye on is signified by Venus. Mars is in the first house but is just into Sagittarius. Instead of being very strong, and thus indicating that you are in an ideal position it shows you as having the ability to act but being a little unsure of how to act. Your immediate priority seems to be ensuring you have enough money (Sagittarius on the second House cusp) to pay your rent (Pisces ruled by Jupiter on the Fourth) and to have some fun (Aries ruled by Mars on the fifth).
Mars is in the Triplicity of the Sun (ruler of the ninth House of Higher Education), the Terms of Jupiter (money and home) and the Face of Mercury (ruler of the MC and thus work). Mars is not in any dignity of Venus, so the guy is actually not a strong priority.
Venus is In Virgo in the ninth House. Is this guy someone in school? His main priorities are Higher Education and Travel (Venus in the sign and exaltation of Mercury, ruler of the ninth) and himself (Venus is in its own Triplicity, Terms and Face). Venus is not in any dignity of Mars, so at the moment he has no thoughts about a relationship.
So no immediate evidence of this relationship flourishing. There,s no aspect forming between Venus and which again is not promising but when we look at the Moon things improve a lot.
The Moon can act as a co-significatorfor you and it is also placed in the ninth house in Virgo, where it is applying to a conjunction with Venus. Its last aspect was a square to Mars, so it is symbolically taking you interest from you to him. Now this looks very promising but there's a fly in the ointment. Venus is at 10, 42 Virgo but Mercury is at 10,01 Scorpio. Just before the conjunction with Venus, the Moon will sextile Mercury.
With both Mercury and Venus is in the same degree, I'm not entirely sure the Mercury aspect will completely prohibit this leading to a contact between him and you but with Mercury ruling the ninth, it's quite possible that your school commitments might get in the way of things developing.
One thing that makes me optimistic here is that the North Node is conjunct the Ascendant and the North Node is benefic, so there may be issues but the contact is likely to be made.
Whether this will lead to anything though is by no means certain. The lack of reception involving Mars and Venus does not suggest that you will both 'click'. The Moon's next aspect after Venus, will be by square to Jupiter (money and home), so again you might well find that other pressures make keeping the relationship going problematic.
So, there's a real chance of a contact between you but whether it will work out is by no means clear. Work' money, school and home will be your main focus over this period as you clearly recognise in the question.. My feeling is that the contact will not lead to much as you both have other priorities over the period. It might still be fun though :)
love.actually
13-10-2012, 07:48
Thank you so much for the time and effort you put in to provide such a detailed reading! I got goosebumps reading a lot of the points you made, they were on spot with how I've been feeling and what my head & gut instinct tells me.
The chart cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars and the guy you have Your eye on is signified by Venus. Mars is in the first house but is just into Sagittarius. Instead of being very strong, and thus indicating that you are in an ideal position it shows you as having the ability to act but being a little unsure of how to act. Your immediate priority seems to be ensuring you have enough money (Sagittarius on the second House cusp) to pay your rent (Pisces ruled by Jupiter on the Fourth) and to have some fun (Aries ruled by Mars on the fifth).
You hit the nail on the head about me being not sure how to act. I'm not sure if I want a relationship with him because I know I have a lot of other commitments. I'd rather not start anything I can't finish. School (not failing out!) especially is my top priority right now and I can't see myself managing everything while losing my head over him at the same time. Apart from the practical issues, there's the question of how we'll get along and what our dynamics will be like. I don't know him very well right now and that also contributes a lot to my indecisiveness. I feel uneasy at the prospect of gambling my sense of security away for a chance at a relationship.
Mars is in the Triplicity of the Sun (ruler of the ninth House of Higher Education), the Terms of Jupiter (money and home) and the Face of Mercury (ruler of the MC and thus work). Mars is not in any dignity of Venus, so the guy is actually not a strong priority.
Venus is In Virgo in the ninth House. Is this guy someone in school? His main priorities are Higher Education and Travel (Venus in the sign and exaltation of Mercury, ruler of the ninth) and himself (Venus is in its own Triplicity, Terms and Face). Venus is not in any dignity of Mars, so at the moment he has no thoughts about a relationship.
So no immediate evidence of this relationship flourishing. There,s no aspect forming between Venus and which again is not promising but when we look at the Moon things improve a lot.
This is also true. He hasn't been in a relationship in a while and considering how stressed he can get sometimes, I can guess it's because he's focused on school and work as well.
The Moon can act as a co-significatorfor you and it is also placed in the ninth house in Virgo, where it is applying to a conjunction with Venus. Its last aspect was a square to Mars, so it is symbolically taking you interest from you to him. Now this looks very promising but there's a fly in the ointment. Venus is at 10, 42 Virgo but Mercury is at 10,01 Scorpio. Just before the conjunction with Venus, the Moon will sextile Mercury.
With both Mercury and Venus is in the same degree, I'm not entirely sure the Mercury aspect will completely prohibit this leading to a contact between him and you but with Mercury ruling the ninth, it's quite possible that your school commitments might get in the way of things developing.
You're completely right about school overshadowing anything that might develop. We've had several meet ups in the past which we weren't able to pursue further because of school/work and I don't see that pattern changing anytime soon. Even at my most optimistic, I know the most I can hope for is a casual relationship with no serious commitments.
One thing that makes me optimistic here is that the North Node is conjunct the Ascendant and the North Node is benefic, so there may be issues but the contact is likely to be made.
Whether this will lead to anything though is by no means certain. The lack of reception involving Mars and Venus does not suggest that you will both 'click'. The Moon's next aspect after Venus, will be by square to Jupiter (money and home), so again you might well find that other pressures make keeping the relationship going problematic.
So, there's a real chance of a contact between you but whether it will work out is by no means clear. Work' money, school and home will be your main focus over this period as you clearly recognise in the question.. My feeling is that the contact will not lead to much as you both have other priorities over the period. It might still be fun though :)
The possibility of further contact made my day! :D You're accurate about us not clicking right away--our personalities and attitudes towards things are very different. But then again, I think that's part of the attraction. I definitely agree that more school and work related commitments will get in the way in the future but I'm hoping we'll be able to get closer, even just as friends. I love the rush of having a new love interest :D
I was also wondering if the chart shows him being receptive to me in general and if I come across as the one pursuing him. I think it could give me a clue as to where I stand with him.
Thank you again for the delightful reading. It cleared up a lot of the questions I had. Have an amazing weekend! :)
Minderwiz
16-10-2012, 00:21
Hi Minderwiz, I'm back again with another if that's ok. Your readings for me have been spot on, considering your reading I have made some changes re the selling of my business and I would like to know if I am heading in the right direction now, does my business look any closer to selling over the next 3 months or so or should I sit back and wait for better timing. Hope this is ok, thanks in anticipation.
The chart has Gemini rising, so you are signified by Mercury. The property is signified by the ruler of the fourth, the Sun, the potential buyer by the ruler of the Seventh (Jupiter) and the Agent by the ruler of the sixth (Venus).
Mercury is in Scorpio in the Sign, Triplicity, Terms and Face of Mars. Mars rules Aries, in which lies the cusp of the twelfth House and Scorpio, which is intercepted in the sixth. My feeling from this is that you feel very much out of your comfort zone with this sale, to put it very mildly. Mercury is inconunct the Ascendant, and in an unfortunate House. Mercury is also without dignity, its Peregrine. This is usually an indication of feeling unsure and in need of help or guidance. In the sixth, that suggests that you're hopes are pinned on the Agent, though, as Mercury is not in the same sign as the sixth house cusp, I don't think you feel that well connected to the agent or at least that you might not get adequate attention.
The Sun is in Libra, where it is in Fall, and in the fifth House. The fifth is not a bad placement to get noticed but the Sun in Fall suggests that the property is no longer as attractive to buyers, even though it is now much more noticeable to them. As Venus rules Libra, it seems that the agent has made the property more noticeable and therefore at least done somethng of what is needed. I'm not sure why the property has lost something of it's attraction but that could come down to current economic circumstances, or you getting ready to move and possibly not displaying it as well as you were.
Venus is in Virgo, ruled by Mercury, so if you have any doubts about the current Agent, it seems that they have your best interests at heart. Venus is in its own Terms, so there's some self interest there and in the Face of the Sun (The Agent does care about the property). So we Have the following priorities for them - You (Sign and Exaltation of Mercury) Your money (The Moon is the Earth Triplicity rulerr and also rules the second House of your finances), themselves (Venus in it's own Terms) and the Property (in the Face of the Sun). Whilst this clearly puts you first, I'd prefer to see the property a bit further up the list, as they are supposed to be facilitating its sale) the priority given to your money could be because they want to get the best price (though again I'd want to see the property given higher priority) or because they want to make as much out of you as they can. It's not their main aim and I'm being a little critical here but agents can be vital to a sale.
The buyer is signified by Jupiter and the interesting thing is that Jupiter is on the Ascendant in Gemini. Jupiter is in the Sign and Triplicity of Mercury so they want to buy and are coming to you to make an offer. Jupiter is in the Terms of Venus (so the agent has had some effect in motivating them). Now that shows a very favourable position.
Sadly there's no aspect forming between Jupiter and Mercury and as they are in inconjunct signs, there's an element of not seeing them. That could be because they come to the property but are not impressed with what they see, or you aren't around when they come.
Jupiter is in partile sextile with the Moon (your money) so I think they have the intention of buying. The Moon is in Leo (so your finances are definitely tied to this sale) and conjunct the Lot of Fortune (your luck is riding on this sale).
The buyer's finances are singified by Saturn, ruler of the eighth House. Saturn is in Scorpio (again ruled by Mars and in a separating conjunction with Mercury. Saturn's condition shows that the buyer has not a lot of finance available and Mercury is moving away from Saturn.
There's quite a lot of contradicitions here but overall it seems to me that the agent has done a fair job and the property is much more noticeable. Indeed it looks like it will be noticed in your time frame and a prospective buyer will come forward who is going to make an offer. I don't think that offer will be enough for you, and you'll turn it down, indeed you might not even be interested in a meeting with the buyer because of the offer.
What can you do to improve things? Well the first reading surrounded the issue of the property being noticed. That seems to have been remedied. You say that you have made changes. Some have worked, the new agent may be in it for their own needs but they do seem to have done their job. Have you made other changes? The property doesn't seem as tempting as it was before, so either economic pressures are biting and buyers are expecting more for their money or there's some change that you've made that might detract from the sale. It might be worth comparing your property to similar ones on the market just to see if you're physical presentation is right. From your background information, I'd say it is more likely to be the economics of the business for a new buyer. This is a very difficult time to start up a new business and it's position is not an ideal one for a new start up.
You could of course reconsider your asking price but there are important personal factors to consider there, your relocation costs being an obvious one.
At the moment I don't see a sale in the period of the question but that's more because of your needs than the agent, the property or lack of a willing buyer.
Minderwiz
21-10-2012, 06:44
Hello Minderwiz,
Are you still taking questions for your Horary readings??
If yes, I have a question to ask: How would my marital life be in the coming 12 months??
I guess you might be needing more information before you do this reading. Please let me know what more information you need for this reading.
The chart cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars, and she by Venus which seems to be appropriate. The Ascendant is also afflicted by Saturn from the twelfth House, and that is sometimes seen as an indication that the question is not fit to be judged. However, given your description of the situation it seems to me to signify the 'bind' that you find yourself in at the moment and your situation is indeed 'afflicted'.
Mars is in Sagittarius in the Second House. Mars is not well placed in Sagittarius, indeed it is Peregrine - in need of help or guidance or feeling not in control of the situation. The second deals with money and income, so there looks to be significant financial factors that affecting you as a result of the situation. The second is not the worst placement and Mars is fast and direct, so you have some scope for action here.
Venus is in Virgo conjunct the eleventh House cusp. Venus is actually the Triplicity ruler for the Earth signs by day, so she has dignity here. The eleventh House is also a stronger placement than the second, so it seems that your wife is in a better position than you are at the moment. She is the focus of you hopes and aspirations (either she reconciles or she goes) but she's in her own fifth House of fun and romance. Now that might just give a glimmer of hope that a reconciliation is possible but I suspect she is hoping that it will be on her own terms. Venus is also direct and fast, so she two is able to act.
There's no major aspect forming between Venus and Mars, indeed the last aspect was a square - an indication of the previous marital strife. With no aspect forming, I'm not sure that a reconciliation is a likely outcome, but the next step is to check the Moon and it's aspects.
The Moon can act as a co-significator to you and it's aspects may throw light on the situation. The Moon's last aspect was a sextile to the Sun, in Fall, in Libra and the twelfth House. The Sun rules your tenth House, and is a natural significator of career, and social position. The Sun's position is not good either by sign or house, so I think this situation is affected you even at work, perhaps not seriously, as the sextile is the weakest major aspect. As it's a separating aspect, that indicates a past situation. So when you had the break up you mentioned, that is when the effect on work is likely to have been at it's strongest. Now the Moon has changed signs and I think that indicates that you were hoping for a positive change in your life following her leaving.
The Moon's next aspect is a conjunction with the Lot of Fortune. Fortune here is both a symbol of luck or at least an increase or diminution in your wealth. The lot is ruled by Saturn in the twelfth and in Scorpio. Saturn is currently combust and Peregrine, so that does not look too good for your wealth. Finally the Moon will aspect Venus by Trine. Now that might be an indication that you are prepared to pay her to leave or give her a divorce settlement if the worst comes to the worst.
Looking back over the reading, it seems that she is in the stronger position and that whilst there may be a hint that she's interested in a reconciliation, she finds the situation less of a threat than you do.
I don't see any other evidence of reconciliation at all here. Indeed she may be 'playing you' for what she can get. Neither Mars nor Venus is in any of the dignities of the other, so there's no evidence of positive feelings between you. The aspects of the Moon seem to focus on some past affect on your work situation (though not dreadfully so) and a possible diminution of your wealth with her being the beneficiary. That might be in the form of a divorce settlement but it could simply be you being prepared to give her some allowance if she'll move out, or even simply paying the bills so she can live with you rent free or at subsidised rent.
I don't see any romantic spark merely more unhappiness for you if the situation continues. Sorry to be pessimistic of the outcome :(
The chart has Gemini rising, so you are signified by Mercury. The property is signified by the ruler of the fourth, the Sun, the potential buyer by the ruler of the Seventh (Jupiter) and the Agent by the ruler of the sixth (Venus).
Mercury is in Scorpio in the Sign, Triplicity, Terms and Face of Mars. Mars rules Aries, in which lies the cusp of the twelfth House and Scorpio, which is intercepted in the sixth. My feeling from this is that you feel very much out of your comfort zone with this sale, to put it very mildly. Mercury is inconunct the Ascendant, and in an unfortunate House. Mercury is also without dignity, its Peregrine. This is usually an indication of feeling unsure and in need of help or guidance. In the sixth, that suggests that you're hopes are pinned on the Agent, though, as Mercury is not in the same sign as the sixth house cusp, I don't think you feel that well connected to the agent or at least that you might not get adequate attention.
The Sun is in Libra, where it is in Fall, and in the fifth House. The fifth is not a bad placement to get noticed but the Sun in Fall suggests that the property is no longer as attractive to buyers, even though it is now much more noticeable to them. As Venus rules Libra, it seems that the agent has made the property more noticeable and therefore at least done somethng of what is needed. I'm not sure why the property has lost something of it's attraction but that could come down to current economic circumstances, or you getting ready to move and possibly not displaying it as well as you were.
I too think this agent is the better out of a bad bunch but as you say the economy has a lot to do with it also as you note we are having a cull and that is never attractive lol. My desperation to sell has diminished somewhat in as far as I am not obsessing and getting in a rut over it.
Venus is in Virgo, ruled by Mercury, so if you have any doubts about the current Agent, it seems that they have your best interests at heart. Venus is in its own Terms, so there's some self interest there and in the Face of the Sun (The Agent does care about the property). So we Have the following priorities for them - You (Sign and Exaltation of Mercury) Your money (The Moon is the Earth Triplicity rulerr and also rules the second House of your finances), themselves (Venus in it's own Terms) and the Property (in the Face of the Sun). Whilst this clearly puts you first, I'd prefer to see the property a bit further up the list, as they are supposed to be facilitating its sale) the priority given to your money could be because they want to get the best price (though again I'd want to see the property given higher priority) or because they want to make as much out of you as they can. It's not their main aim and I'm being a little critical here but agents can be vital to a sale.
The buyer is signified by Jupiter and the interesting thing is that Jupiter is on the Ascendant in Gemini. Jupiter is in the Sign and Triplicity of Mercury so they want to buy and are coming to you to make an offer. Jupiter is in the Terms of Venus (so the agent has had some effect in motivating them). Now that shows a very favourable position.
Sadly there's no aspect forming between Jupiter and Mercury and as they are in inconjunct signs, there's an element of not seeing them. That could be because they come to the property but are not impressed with what they see, or you aren't around when they come.
Jupiter is in partile sextile with the Moon (your money) so I think they have the intention of buying. The Moon is in Leo (so your finances are definitely tied to this sale) and conjunct the Lot of Fortune (your luck is riding on this sale).
The buyer's finances are singified by Saturn, ruler of the eighth House. Saturn is in Scorpio (again ruled by Mars and in a separating conjunction with Mercury. Saturn's condition shows that the buyer has not a lot of finance available and Mercury is moving away from Saturn.
There's quite a lot of contradicitions here but overall it seems to me that the agent has done a fair job and the property is much more noticeable. Indeed it looks like it will be noticed in your time frame and a prospective buyer will come forward who is going to make an offer. I don't think that offer will be enough for you, and you'll turn it down, indeed you might not even be interested in a meeting with the buyer because of the offer.
What can you do to improve things? Well the first reading surrounded the issue of the property being noticed. That seems to have been remedied. You say that you have made changes. Some have worked, the new agent may be in it for their own needs but they do seem to have done their job. Have you made other changes? The property doesn't seem as tempting as it was before, so either economic pressures are biting and buyers are expecting more for their money or there's some change that you've made that might detract from the sale. It might be worth comparing your property to similar ones on the market just to see if you're physical presentation is right. From your background information, I'd say it is more likely to be the economics of the business for a new buyer. This is a very difficult time to start up a new business and it's position is not an ideal one for a new start up.
You could of course reconsider your asking price but there are important personal factors to consider there, your relocation costs being an obvious one.
At the moment I don't see a sale in the period of the question but that's more because of your needs than the agent, the property or lack of a willing buyer.
Thank you once again, your readings are outstanding and much appreciated, all the best to you.
pacificwaters
29-10-2012, 00:59
Hello Minderwiz,
Thank you for bearing with me for the delay in feedback. I was out of town, as I told you before. Anyways I shall post you my detailed feedback. Hope the feedback is as crisp as your reading. And yes before I start, your reading of the situation has been very accurate. Thank you.
The chart cast has Scorpio rising, so you are signified by Mars, and she by Venus which seems to be appropriate. The Ascendant is also afflicted by Saturn from the twelfth House, and that is sometimes seen as an indication that the question is not fit to be judged. However, given your description of the situation it seems to me to signify the 'bind' that you find yourself in at the moment and your situation is indeed 'afflicted'.
Mars is in Sagittarius in the Second House. Mars is not well placed in Sagittarius, indeed it is Peregrine - in need of help or guidance or feeling not in control of the situation. The second deals with money and income, so there looks to be significant financial factors that affecting you as a result of the situation. The second is not the worst placement and Mars is fast and direct, so you have some scope for action here.
“Not in control of the situation” …that is what I exactly have been feeling since the past 2 years. And every time I start feeling that maybe things would get better, there is one more twist to the tale and the situation is back to square one, i.e. out of control..!! you also talk about “some scope for action”..well the only scope for action is file for divorce. But unfortunately, in my country (India) courts are anti-divorce and hence getting one is not easy. Moreover here it is presumed that a woman (read wife) is innocent, and there is not a single law that is in favor of husbands, other than “mutual consent” which is unfortunately not there in my case. I am ready for a divorce but wife ain’t. So though I want to get acting, I can’t, because I would be drained (emotionally and financially) for the period of 4-5 years should I initiate proceedings.
Venus is in Virgo conjunct the eleventh House cusp. Venus is actually the Triplicity ruler for the Earth signs by day, so she has dignity here. The eleventh House is also a stronger placement than the second, so it seems that your wife is in a better position than you are at the moment. She is the focus of you hopes and aspirations (either she reconciles or she goes) but she's in her own fifth House of fun and romance. Now that might just give a glimmer of hope that a reconciliation is possible but I suspect she is hoping that it will be on her own terms. Venus is also direct and fast, so she two is able to act.
There's no major aspect forming between Venus and Mars, indeed the last aspect was a square - an indication of the previous marital strife. With no aspect forming, I'm not sure that a reconciliation is a likely outcome, but the next step is to check the Moon and it's aspects.
Oh yes, she is in a better position. She hails from a family of judges and therefore I believe has a good understanding of what is in her favor were I to file for divorce. She knows that at least until the legal case continues (almost 5 years), I would be drained like anything. Also currently her mom has been diagnosed with cancer (final stages). This has again put me on the backfoot for two reasons. My conscience would not warrant me initiating legal proceedings against her, when she and her family are going through a lot of stress. And secondly with judiciary in favor of women she could well argue in court about how inhumane I am!! So well, as I said this is how I believe she is in a much better position right now..!!!
As regards your mention about “a glimmer of hope”..well fingers crossed! There could be nothing better than that for I want this marriage to work, and I still love her despite whatever has happened. Just hope that this glimmer turns into a “bountifull”
The Moon can act as a co-significator to you and it's aspects may throw light on the situation. The Moon's last aspect was a sextile to the Sun, in Fall, in Libra and the twelfth House. The Sun rules your tenth House, and is a natural significator of career, and social position. The Sun's position is not good either by sign or house, so I think this situation is affected you even at work, perhaps not seriously, as the sextile is the weakest major aspect. As it's a separating aspect, that indicates a past situation. So when you had the break up you mentioned, that is when the effect on work is likely to have been at it's strongest. Now the Moon has changed signs and I think that indicates that you were hoping for a positive change in your life following her leaving.
Career and social position. Well the 21 months that I stayed alone, I had the neighbors gossiping a lot, posing me unwarranted questions and all that. There’s nothing more irksome than nosey neighbors who just can’t mind their own business. Talking about career, well I actually had to think back about this. Yes, when the fragmenting started with her leaving me, I was very stressed. This was then immediately followed in some months by a situation at work, where a position that was initially promised to me was advertised for someone else (with just one clause changed that meant I couldn’t even apply and therefore compete for it). I felt so cheated and that this came after this, I was at a very big low.
The Moon's next aspect is a conjunction with the Lot of Fortune. Fortune here is both a symbol of luck or at least an increase or diminution in your wealth. The lot is ruled by Saturn in the twelfth and in Scorpio. Saturn is currently combust and Peregrine, so that does not look too good for your wealth. Finally the Moon will aspect Venus by Trine. Now that might be an indication that you are prepared to pay her to leave or give her a divorce settlement if the worst comes to the worst.
Yes, like I said, I am prepared for a divorce (but also find myself in a cath-22 situation). As I said above she doesn’t want to divorce me, and in India unless a wife says yes to a divorce, a husband just cant get divorced, no matter even if he proves in court how truly he deserves it. So even if I go legal, all I would face is a good deal of dimunition in wealth, with no significant output.
Looking back over the reading, it seems that she is in the stronger position and that whilst there may be a hint that she's interested in a reconciliation, she finds the situation less of a threat than you do.
Absolutely agreed..!
I don't see any other evidence of reconciliation at all here. Indeed she may be 'playing you' for what she can get. Neither Mars nor Venus is in any of the dignities of the other, so there's no evidence of positive feelings between you.
I can actually sense this every other time. There is no even a pinch of positive feelings from her side no matter whatever I try to please her.
I don't see any romantic spark merely more unhappiness for you if the situation continues. Sorry to be pessimistic of the outcome
Thank you for the wonderful analysis of the situation. And, you don’t need to be sorry. You are just passing me the message the stars have for me. Fingers crossed for a miracle.
By the way, just have a question if you don’t mind. I have had many astrologers often use the word “the situation is not fit to be judged” (like you also mentioned) especially in Horary readings. What exactly does this mean??
Minderwiz
29-10-2012, 04:56
Thanks for the extensive feedback. It really is appreciated. I still think you have some room for manoeuvre but it is constrained and the options are not good. As I said, she is in a better position than you and from your feedback, I suspect she's playing on the situation to be a 'well kept woman' rather than my original view that she wants paying off. Either way ir's a transfer of wealth from you to her.
By the way, just have a question if you don’t mind. I have had many astrologers often use the word “the situation is not fit to be judged” (like you also mentioned) especially in Horary readings. What exactly does this mean??
The phrase relates to the validity of the chart as a representation of the event it is supposed to describe. We sometimes get them with natal charts, I once saw one where the Sun's position did not reflect the known date of birth. Horary questions are particularly vulnerable, they may be cast too early or too late to be helpful, or they may not be serious, simply asked to test the Astrologer. There are a series of tests which have been developed to allow the Astrologer to recognise such situations. I don't use all of them but I do expect the chart to accurately describe the situation of the question.
pacificwaters
29-10-2012, 21:04
The phrase relates to the validity of the chart as a representation of the event it is supposed to describe. We sometimes get them with natal charts, I once saw one where the Sun's position did not reflect the known date of birth. Horary questions are particularly vulnerable, they may be cast too early or too late to be helpful, or they may not be serious, simply asked to test the Astrologer. There are a series of tests which have been developed to allow the Astrologer to recognise such situations. I don't use all of them but I do expect the chart to accurately describe the situation of the question.
Thanks for that explanation.
As regards your mention of Horary questions done to test the astrologer, I agree with this, and know of instances when this was done as well.
Minderwiz
19-11-2012, 05:42
Yes, my question would be concerning employment, I am looking for work and interviewing. Is there anything coming up for me, how soon, any advice?
Is there anything coming up for you? Yes there is but the question is 'will you like it?'
The chart has Cancer rising, so you are signified by Moon.' Moon is in Aquarius, in the seventh . Your well positioned for the job market but you don't necessarily have the skills or possibly the communication skills to make a great impression (Moon is Peregrine). So I think you need some help and advice on presenting yourself and getting your CV over to prospective employers.
The job/employment is signified by Jupiter, ruler of the tenth house. Jupiter is in Gemini and Moon is applying to a trine with Jupiter, so that looks very promising. What isn't promising is the condition of the Job. Jupiter is in Detriment, Retrograde, Slow and near the twelfth cusp.All of that suggests that the job is not up to much at all (in terms of being what you really want). Given that Jupiter is near the tweffth cusp this could be a job related to prisons, hospitals or other rather dreary large institutions. Jupiter is moving away from the cusp, not towards it, so it might be public sector but not quite as dreary or in the realm of charitable bodies doing some public work.or having connections with the legal system or with church or religious bodies (Jupiter has connections to both). That's rather a wide spread but the common factor is that whilst the job is on offer to you, it probably isn't what you want.
Your issue really is going to be do you turn it down and keep looking. The answer to that really comes down to how badly you need the money now. There is the possibility of another job later on but it's not an awful lot better (signified by Mercury in Scorpio) and I think this will probably seem even more a put off, or alternatively more difficult to get. (Moon will square Mercury). The job is likely to relate to communications and or computers in some way.
Your income over the period is signified by the Sun, which is currently nearing the end of it's run in Scorpio. The Sun is not strong in Scorpio (or any Autumn or Winter sign, except Sagittarius). So current income is not likely to be anything to shout home about. Given that Sun will change signs, there must be some temptation to wait. In Sagittarius the Sun returns to it's own Triplicity, so more is promised in the future. The second job is likely to take at least twice as long as the first two materialise, especially since Aquarius and Scorpio are both fixed signs. The trine with Jupiter is some 9 degrees away, so it could be something coming up in say 9 weeks, probably less as Gemini is a mutable sign and both Moon and Jupiter will apply to each other. Moon and Mercury are 20 degrees apart and both in fixed signs. There will be some mutually application as Mercury is Retrograde.
Things to do:
You need to get your CV up to date and well presented showing off your skills and experience
You might need to do some work on bringing your skills up to date, or even raise their levels to given you access to jobst that are currently not likely to come your way
You need to ensure that your interview technique is good and that you can match job descriptions to your skills and experience during the interview, rather than being too general.
Is there anything coming up for you? Yes there is but the question is 'will you like it?'
The chart has Cancer rising, so you are signified by Moon.' Moon is in Aquarius, in the seventh . Your well positioned for the job market but you don't necessarily have the skills or possibly the communication skills to make a great impression (Moon is Peregrine). So I think you need some help and advice on presenting yourself and getting your CV over to prospective employers.
This is very accurate. This has been my difficuty in recent interviews, because I suffer from anxiety I dont communicate well. It really bothers me, I clam up and in the end it might appear as though I an not good at communicating, but I am, it takes me a while to warm up. I was very hopeful with my last interview- but I have not heard from them yet and its almost 4 weeks.
The job/employment is signified by Jupiter, ruler of the tenth house. Jupiter is in Gemini and Moon is applying to a trine with Jupiter, so that looks very promising. What isn't promising is the condition of the Job. Jupiter is in Detriment, Retrograde, Slow and near the twelfth cusp.All of that suggests that the job is not up to much at all (in terms of being what you really want). Given that Jupiter is near the tweffth cusp this could be a job related to prisons, hospitals or other rather dreary large institutions. Jupiter is moving away from the cusp, not towards it, so it might be public sector but not quite as dreary or in the realm of charitable bodies doing some public work.or having connections with the legal system or with church or religious bodies (Jupiter has connections to both). That's rather a wide spread but the common factor is that whilst the job is on offer to you, it probably isn't what you want. My last interview was at a University. Do you think they will offer me the position, there is a lag, because there is a hiring freeze and budget cuts, but I was hoping they would work it out. Also the job is one that I want, though I anticipate that it will be slow, many days when there is not much to do. I was hoping to hear something from them over the holidays when classes are out. Do you think this is the institution that you might be seeing, its in undergraduate studies. Web specialist position.
Your issue really is going to be do you turn it down and keep looking. The answer to that really comes down to how badly you need the money now. There is the possibility of another job later on but it's not an awful lot better (signified by Mercury in Scorpio) and I think this will probably seem even more a put off, or alternatively more difficult to get. (Moon will square Mercury). The job is likely to relate to communications and or computers in some way. This seems more than plausable as its it the only field that I am currently applying. The reason you might be picking up on if I would turn it down or not, is because currently I am disabled and want to return to work. That also explains the need to hone up on my skills, even though I work on my own, I still need to brush up and get some better portfolio together. I am not enthusiastic about doing work, just to get a portfolio together. I have done enough free work in my life time, and really just want to get a paid position.
Your income over the period is signified by the Sun, which is currently nearing the end of it's run in Scorpio. The Sun is not strong in Scorpio (or any Autumn or Winter sign, except Sagittarius). So current income is not likely to be anything to shout home about. I'm on disablity, its steady but very little.
Given that Sun will change signs, there must be some temptation to wait. In Sagittarius the Sun returns to it's own Triplicity, so more is promised in the future. The second job is likely to take at least twice as long as the first two materialise, especially since Aquarius and Scorpio are both fixed signs. The trine with Jupiter is some 9 degrees away, so it could be something coming up in say 9 weeks, probably less as Gemini is a mutable sign and both Moon and Jupiter will apply to each other. Moon and Mercury are 20 degrees apart and both in fixed signs. There will be some mutually application as Mercury is Retrograde.
In other words is the last place I "interviewed" with going to present me with an offer for employment?
Things to do:
You need to get your CV up to date and well presented showing off your skills and experience
You might need to do some work on bringing your skills up to date, or even raise their levels to given you access to jobst that are currently not likely to come your way
You need to ensure that your interview technique is good and that you can match job descriptions to your skills and experience during the interview, rather than being too general.
All your advice is good, and things that I am aware of , but having you confirm it does me a lot of good. So are u suggesting I dont take the first offer which will present itself soon, or take it and work on my skills while there? And second, concerning my income, you dont really see any increase in my income for a long while? Any time frame that I should receive an offer of any kind? And I guess I'm not talking about freelance work, because yes I recently got a call concerning that, but I dont consider that work, as it rarely is a steady income if an income at all. I hope that is not what you are seeing, as an offer. Someone wanted me to help them promote their website.
Minderwiz, you are great at what you do, I appreciate the reading, dont know how to thank you enough. If there is anything I can do in return please let me know.
Minderwiz
20-11-2012, 06:11
hi minderwiz
i would rather change my question in that case :)
so my question is
when will i get employed ? and how ill i do professionally for next one year ? this is crucial time for me as i am going to work after a long period and don't know how to manage in the corporate world.i would be starting as a fresher although i worked many years ago for a limited time .
best
safari
hey buddy
i am currently unemployed , have been looking for jobs for last couple of months. i would prefer a full time job but now that i have waited for long already and nothing positive has come my way i am open to work part-time / short-term as well.
should you need more information please do let me know :)
The chart cast has Aries rising, which is always a good sign of new beginnings. So you are signified by Mars. Mars has just entered Capricorn, which again is a sign of a new beginning through the change in Sign. Mars is in exaltation in Capricorn so you are well qualified for the job market (the type of job you wish to apply for) and Mars is also placed in the ninth House, which is a good placement. So you should be noticeable in the market - your applications should at least be given a good consideration even if you don't make it to the short list. Given that Mars is only just over 5 degrees from the tenth cusp (MC) and the tenth relates to career and profession. I'd say your chances of making that short list are actually good.
The MC also lies in Capricorn so the job is signified by Saturn ruler of the MC. Currently Saturn is in Scorpio, not usually seen as a good placement as Saturn is a 'dry' planet but Scorpio is a Water sign. However, we have a clear link between Mars and Saturn here. Mars is in the sign of Saturn's rulership and Saturn is in the sign of Mars' rulership - this is called a mutual reception - the job 'likes' you - in the sense that you match the person description for the job very well and you like the job (the job description is something that you can easily do - but it's not going to be challenging, as far as you are concerned.
Given your statement above, I don't think this is any reason to turn the job down. It will be OK, you will do well at it. The question, is will you actually get it? Mars is at 1 degree Capricorn, Saturn at 5 degrees Scorpio, so Mars is applying to a sextile with Saturn. The aspect link, plus the mutual reception suggests that you will almost be a cert for the job.
Given that Saturn signifies the job it is likely to be routine, well defined, slow paced traditional Saturn jobs are not exciting - miners, potters, plumbers, undertakers, candle makers' gardeners and horticulture and anything to do with looking after horses and stables. Now the latter is still an occupation but I'd also extend it to looking after parked vehicles. Those are a sample there are quite a few others, and of course you might not be directly involved at the sharp end of such a job, so you might be involved in the administrative or financial side of such a business.
Your income is signified by Mercury, retrograde in Scorpio. Although Mercury is angular, it is not in the same sign as the Seventh cusp and being Retrograde and Peregrine it's not exhibiting any signs of serious enrichment - the pay is not particularly good, as one would expect from most Saturn jobs. That Mercury is in Scorpio does indicate that it will be sufficient for your needs.
With Saturn angular, it's possible that this job will be a good stepping stone for further career moves.
I'd certainly expect to see you in work within 4 months and it could be as short as 4 to six weeks.
Bear in mind the reading suggests that you should get the offer of a job, or at least a very good chance of one, it does not guarantee that you will take it - you always have free will in such cases
Minderwiz
20-11-2012, 06:36
This is very accurate. This has been my difficuty in recent interviews, because I suffer from anxiety I dont communicate well. It really bothers me, I clam up and in the end it might appear as though I an not good at communicating, but I am, it takes me a while to warm up. I was very hopeful with my last interview- but I have not heard from them yet and its almost 4 weeks.
My last interview was at a University. Do you think they will offer me the position, there is a lag, because there is a hiring freeze and budget cuts, but I was hoping they would work it out. Also the job is one that I want, though I anticipate that it will be slow, many days when there is not much to do. I was hoping to hear something from them over the holidays when classes are out. Do you think this is the institution that you might be seeing, its in undergraduate studies. Web specialist position.
It might be, though I would expect a University to show up as a ninth House institution. Also four weeks seems a fairly long period of time, so unless they told you that the post would take some time to be filled, I'd expect that job to be 'in the past' rather than the future. Which does imply that there are still the two jobs I mentioned out there. Are you applying to other universities and colleges? If so the description might hold if you are doing non-teaching work.
All your advice is good, and things that I am aware of , but having you confirm it does me a lot of good. So are u suggesting I dont take the first offer which will present itself soon, or take it and work on my skills while there? And second, concerning my income, you dont really see any increase in my income for a long while? Any time frame that I should receive an offer of any kind? And I guess I'm not talking about freelance work, because yes I recently got a call concerning that, but I dont consider that work, as it rarely is a steady income if an income at all. I hope that is not what you are seeing, as an offer. Someone wanted me to help them promote their website.
Your income will almost certainly rise when you get the job, but I don't see the job as being particularly well paid, please take my comments as being relative to the job not in an absolute sense - usually some income is better than none :) Unless of course your benefit is reduced or removed as the result of employment, in which case the increase in your earnings may not be all that much. However, it is a good plan to get back into work and you may well find that once in employment and with your skills upgraded you are able to apply for better paid jobs.
I don't see much to choose between the two jobs, in the sense that the first should be easier to achieve but may not be particularly desirable. The second may be difficult to achieve, given the square aspect or it might involve you in travel or other costs which reduce it's value to you. I tend to look at things in a rather pessimistic way so I'd say there's no indication here that you would certainly be better off with job #2, assuming you get it. So unless job#1 is a massive let down, even though the job is there for the taking, or you can afford to risk not getting job #2, I would not advise you to turn down job #1, if offered.
That decision must be yours, based on your evaluation of job #1 assuming it comes along as predicted.
The chart cast has Aries rising, which is always a good sign of new beginnings. So you are signified by Mars. Mars has just entered Capricorn, which again is a sign of a new beginning through the change in Sign. Mars is in exaltation in Capricorn so you are well qualified for the job market (the type of job you wish to apply for) and Mars is also placed in the ninth House, which is a good placement. So you should be noticeable in the market - your applications should at least be given a good consideration even if you don't make it to the short list. Given that Mars is only just over 5 degrees from the tenth cusp (MC) and the tenth relates to career and profession. I'd say your chances of making that short list are actually good.
The MC also lies in Capricorn so the job is signified by Saturn ruler of the MC. Currently Saturn is in Scorpio, not usually seen as a good placement as Saturn is a 'dry' planet but Scorpio is a Water sign. However, we have a clear link between Mars and Saturn here. Mars is in the sign of Saturn's rulership and Saturn is in the sign of Mars' rulership - this is called a mutual reception - the job 'likes' you - in the sense that you match the person description for the job very well and you like the job (the job description is something that you can easily do - but it's not going to be challenging, as far as you are concerned.
Given your statement above, I don't think this is any reason to turn the job down. It will be OK, you will do well at it. The question, is will you actually get it? Mars is at 1 degree Capricorn, Saturn at 5 degrees Scorpio, so Mars is applying to a sextile with Saturn. The aspect link, plus the mutual reception suggests that you will almost be a cert for the job.
Given that Saturn signifies the job it is likely to be routine, well defined, slow paced traditional Saturn jobs are not exciting - miners, potters, plumbers, undertakers, candle makers' gardeners and horticulture and anything to do with looking after horses and stables. Now the latter is still an occupation but I'd also extend it to looking after parked vehicles. Those are a sample there are quite a few others, and of course you might not be directly involved at the sharp end of such a job, so you might be involved in the administrative or financial side of such a business.
Your income is signified by Mercury, retrograde in Scorpio. Although Mercury is angular, it is not in the same sign as the Seventh cusp and being Retrograde and Peregrine it's not exhibiting any signs of serious enrichment - the pay is not particularly good, as one would expect from most Saturn jobs. That Mercury is in Scorpio does indicate that it will be sufficient for your needs.
With Saturn angular, it's possible that this job will be a good stepping stone for further career moves.
I'd certainly expect to see you in work within 4 months and it could be as short as 4 to six weeks.
Bear in mind the reading suggests that you should get the offer of a job, or at least a very good chance of one, it does not guarantee that you will take it - you always have free will in such cases
hi minderwiz , i cannot thank you enough for doing this reading at this time when i need to take care of a lot in my personal life . and suddenly job search has taken a back seat for me because of family issues that have crept up out of the blue. i was wondering why people were telling me that it is going to take a while before i am employed and that i needed some rest to recuperate . i can certainly connect now. and you have picked up almost right time (4 months from now) when i would be actually able to concentrate on my job search again and focus on my own life again. someone else needs me at this time and i need to take care of their needs and so i need to put a halt to my efforts for job search currently .
however , it brings hope that there are chances that i will be employed by the end of 4 months from now . i believe my financial situation is going to get affected going forward and i would need this job more than i need currently . so it definitely would come as a breather . however i would be in need of a job that could help me be financially stable ,not just be able to take care of my personal needs. i will be dealing with family responsibilities and stable job would be a must to be able to get along .
i need your help one more time .
is it possible for you to read if i get employed in 4/5 months time ,would it be a stable job ? and will i be able to get better financially over the year ? i know this first job won't be that good money wise ,as this has been told by many other readers on the forum. i want to know where will i stand in terms of my personal financial earnings ( not my overall financial situation which includes family resources ) one year from the time i get this first job ? will i grow financially more stable and better in next one year or 18 months ? how will the situation be in my life in terms of my personal income by the mid of 2014 ?
please do let me know should you need more information on this subject.
i find this reading coming from you well in time . it has come as a great relief ... i am hopeful again :) thank you so much for sharing this insight .
best
safari
Minderwiz
22-11-2012, 07:48
Yes I can go further but it will be a few days, as I'm quite busy till after the weekend, it will be early next week. I hope that's OK
Yes I can go further but it will be a few days, as I'm quite busy till after the weekend, it will be early next week. I hope that's OK
thank you minderwiz .. i'll wait to hear from you again :)
please take care
Minderwiz
29-11-2012, 04:22
Hello Minderwiz,
After having had a spot on reading from you sometime back, I wanna be selfish and request you for one more reading. I hope its ok with you and you are taking questions.
My question - I have been stuck in this current job since the last 10 years and no efforts at landing a new job are fructifying. Can I expect a better job that offers me more (both professionally and monetarily). If you need more details I shall be more than happy to provide.
Regards
The agreed period is 6 months and there are regular job applications being made.
Sorry for the delay, busy weekend and then Moon Void of Course. The chart cast has Gemini rising, so your significator is Mercury. Mercury has recently stationed Direct, so your situation has improved somewhat. However Mercury is still slow which means that you are handicapped in the 'race' for a new job. Mercury is placed in Scorpio where it is in it's own Terms. From this I'd say that you are qualified for the jobs that you are applying for, in that you meet the person specification for the job, but there are others out there who are even more able to meet the person spec with their qualifications and experience. Mercury is in the sixth House, which is inconjunct the Ascendant, and again suggests that you are 'difficult' to notice in the employment market. Coupled with Mercury being slow, you are poorly positioned to be noticed in recruitment opportunities.
The Job is signified by the ruler of the Aquarius MC, Saturn. Saturn too is in Scorpio, though in an earlierdegree. Saturn is Peregrine, suggesting that the job might be achievable with help and guidance. So your're in the right area for the job, geographically and/or in terms of qualifications, you're just not making the shortlists. And given that Mercury is in a later degree than Saturn you are not going to make those shortlists any time soon.
The nextt thing to look at is whether someone can help you in the timescale you've set. This is usually shown by a planet that the two significators aspect in turn. Saturn is the slowest planet, Mercury is usually the second fastest, so the Moon would be the only one that could achieve this 'translation of light', Currently Mercury is very slow so Venus can also be a possiibility.
The Moon at 7 degrees Gemini, is actually ruled by Mercury but sadly it does not aspect any planet in Scorpio. Venus is itself in Scorpio and the last planet it aspected was Saturn. The trouble is that it is already in partile square to Mars.
So Venus too will not lead the significators to come together. That does not look good for a favourable outcome. The last possibility was that Saturn and Mercury will meet through Antiscia but with both in the same sign this is not possible.
I'm sorry to say that the outlook is not good over these coming six months. Steps you can take are to ensure that your CV is up to date and well presented and that any letters of application are well written and 'sell you' to the shortlist panel. You might also consider getting professional help to ensure that your documentation is good and of course look to see what additional qualifications will help. It's not necessary to obtain them first, starting a qualification signals to the short list panel that you are still interested in professional development and can often be one of the factors that lead to short listing (which I know from experience on short lisitng panels and interviewing panels).
Good luck
pacificwaters
29-11-2012, 20:49
Hello Minderwiz,
Thank you for the reading. I have absolutely no issues with the delay. Coming to the feedback for the reading. Well, to start with quite some aspects are true here.
The agreed period is 6 months and there are regular job applications being made.
Sorry for the delay, busy weekend and then Moon Void of Course. The chart cast has Gemini rising, so your significator is Mercury. Mercury has recently stationed Direct, so your situation has improved somewhat. However Mercury is still slow which means that you are handicapped in the 'race' for a new job. Mercury is placed in Scorpio where it is in it's own Terms. From this I'd say that you are qualified for the jobs that you are applying for, in that you meet the person specification for the job, but there are others out there who are even more able to meet the person spec with their qualifications and experience. Mercury is in the sixth House, which is inconjunct the Ascendant, and again suggests that you are 'difficult' to notice in the employment market. Coupled with Mercury being slow, you are poorly positioned to be noticed in recruitment opportunities.
You speak about an improvement in situation. You are quite right here. I have observed that the number of feelers that I have been getting of late are quite a lot as compared to what they were say about 4-5 months ago. The number of offers I started getting, started making me feel a bit positive about expecting a job change which I so desperately desire. Also, further on you talk about being “qualified” for the job and also meeting “specifications”. This I also agree full on. In my field of HSE, I have an experience of more than 11 years, and I know that in this field in my country, this is a very big asset. So it beats me why I am not making the final cut. I mean I can sense from the emails/phone calls that I have been short-listed, but well I do not hear from them again. And from those whom I do hear again, well the pay is not what I want, so I have to turn them down, despite knowing that the job exposure at their end could be good! As regards being difficult to notice, I have no idea why this is happening, but yes it is happening. Probably my stars!!! But yes, now that you have also said this I would make a very pro-active effort at re-designing my CV.
The Job is signified by the ruler of the Aquarius MC, Saturn. Saturn too is in Scorpio, though in an earlier degree. Saturn is Peregrine, suggesting that the job might be achievable with help and guidance. So your're in the right area for the job, geographically and/or in terms of qualifications, you're just not making the shortlists. And given that Mercury is in a later degree than Saturn you are not going to make those shortlists any time soon.
I do not understand what exactly you mean by “….job might be achievable with help and guidance”. Do you mean using contacts to put in a word??? Wouldn’t that be unfair?? Like I said in my feedback above, yes, I know I have a very good experience on my CV, along with a federal job (which unfortunately pay less) and a good degree to boot. But unfortunately, not succeeding much in the job market!
The next thing to look at is whether someone can help you in the timescale you've set. This is usually shown by a planet that the two significators aspect in turn. Saturn is the slowest planet, Mercury is usually the second fastest, so the Moon would be the only one that could achieve this 'translation of light', Currently Mercury is very slow so Venus can also be a possiibility.
The Moon at 7 degrees Gemini, is actually ruled by Mercury but sadly it does not aspect any planet in Scorpio. Venus is itself in Scorpio and the last planet it aspected was Saturn. The trouble is that it is already in partile square to Mars.
So Venus too will not lead the significators to come together. That does not look good for a favourable outcome. The last possibility was that Saturn and Mercury will meet through Antiscia but with both in the same sign this is not possible.
So I guess you were indeed talking about receiving help from someone else to land a good job. I think you are right here about having no possibility of someone helping me. Usually people do not help, especially for a job, unless you go out and ask them for their help (at least in India). As of now, though I am desperate to get another opening I don’t think that I am that desperate either where I go and ask others to get me a job. So I think I can see how this would be true too!
I'm sorry to say that the outlook is not good over these coming six months. Steps you can take are to ensure that your CV is up to date and well presented and that any letters of application are well written and 'sell you' to the shortlist panel. You might also consider getting professional help to ensure that your documentation is good and of course look to see what additional qualifications will help. It's not necessary to obtain them first, starting a qualification signals to the short list panel that you are still interested in professional development and can often be one of the factors that lead to short listing (which I know from experience on short lisitng panels and interviewing panels).
How I wish I would have had a rosier outcome :( Well, anyways I will keep trying though. And obviously the first thing that I plan to do now is make my CV more saleable. Have some free days coming up next week. Would ensure that I update my CV and highlight my “selling points”. I had read somewhere how important it is to have well written application letters. I think I didn’t pay much attention to this, thinking that my CV would sell me, but now I guess, I would also be working on this. You also mentioned about additional qualification. Well I am currently working on my doctorate too. That is mentioned in my CV. I hope it projects me better : fingers crossed :
Thank you very much for the fine reading.
Sincere regards
Minderwiz
29-11-2012, 22:58
I saw 'help and guidance' as being helping you to sell yourself to prospective employers, rather than getting an insider to help. Recruitment methods and procedures change a little over time, so anyone that has been in a post for more than three or four years but is now looking for employment will need to do some work in getting themselves up to speed.
In a highly competitive market there are a wealth of suitable candidates who match or exceed the person specification. That is where the CV and application letters come in. Application letters should not be standard, they have to be tailored to each job and the particular employer's need....for example, how does your doctorate benefit them...not just in general but particularly with in the context of this job. Getting that right will increase your chances.
I do hope that something not only comes up but meets your needs and of course the needs of the employer.
pacificwaters
30-11-2012, 15:46
Thanks for clarifying. I think I understand now as to what you meant in "help and guidance"
In a highly competitive market there are a wealth of suitable candidates who match or exceed the person specification. That is where the CV and application letters come in. Application letters should not be standard, they have to be tailored to each job and the particular employer's need....for example, how does your doctorate benefit them...not just in general but particularly with in the context of this job. Getting that right will increase your chances.
Thanks for this very detailed explanation. I believe for sure that my application letters were not up to the mark - the way I guess they should have been. I realize that I didn't tailor them always, and when I did they were just sort of bordering on the edge. Will definitely iron out this aspect in the next job call that comes my way.
Thank you so very much for your added insight in addition to the reading.
Regards
Minderwiz
01-12-2012, 00:56
i need your help one more time .
is it possible for you to read if i get employed in 4/5 months time ,would it be a stable job ? and will i be able to get better financially over the year ? i know this first job won't be that good money wise ,as this has been told by many other readers on the forum. i want to know where will i stand in terms of my personal financial earnings ( not my overall financial situation which includes family resources ) one year from the time i get this first job ? will i grow financially more stable and better in next one year or 18 months ? how will the situation be in my life in terms of my personal income by the mid of 2014 ?
safari
I'm now ready to read for this under the changed circumstances you outlined. In a real sense this is a new reading and is not bound by the circumstances and outcome of the first one, so it should no longer be taken that you will get employed in 4/5 months. So can you confirm that this new question and time scale are still what you want.
Minderwiz
04-12-2012, 20:54
Minderwiz, I have myself a question regarding my continuously absent job/career - Will I succeed in finding a good (desired by me) job soon? Let's say six months. :( When you have the time. I'd also very much like to know, if it's visible in the chart which direction to pursue for best results: writing, PR or event management (last two being my long time career till three years ago when all fell apart). There is also a choice in front of me again - here or abroad... Anything you can see will be highly appreciated. Thank you!
I've cast two charts and both have similar characteristics and both point to the same answer, so I'll use the more recent of them to illustrate this answer.
This has become something of a long term issue, certainly longer than you would have hoped. So any horary from which I conclude that work is coming really does have to shout the positive answer, that change is on the way.
This chart has Sagittarius rising, which makes your significator Jupiter. Jupiter is in Gemini, the sign of it's detriment and it's retrograde in the sixth. All of which suggests that you are in a bad way, in terms of getting employment, you may well feel that things are heading in the wrong direction and it is difficult to get noticed in the employment market. The only positive sign is that Jupiter is in its own Terms, but that is nowhere near offsetting the other debilities.Jupiter's ruler, Mercury rules the ninth House of travel, so you may even be thinking of moving for work. Mercury itself is in the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations, showing the importance of getting a job in your priorities.
Employment is signified by your tenth House of career, and this is ruled by Mars, through Scorpio. Mars itself is in Capricorn where it is exalted and it's in your first House. This seems to suggest that a good job will come along and stare you in the face LOL. Especially as Mars is in the Terms of Jupiter (you). In turn Jupiter is in the Face of Mars, So we have a mutual reception, but it's a very weak mutual reception - not one which of itself will produce a positive outcome.
There is no major aspect between Mars and Jupiter, the two are inconjunct. It's almost as though the job was there but you didn't notice it, you were looking the other way. The other chart did have an aspect between the two significators, but it was a separating square. Both charts seem to indicate a recent opportunity missed.
There is always the need to check for translation of light and there are three planets which are faster than the two significators and might achieve this. The usual one to check is the Moon. This is in Leo but it's last aspect was to Venus in Scorpio and its next is to Mercury also in Scorpio. The Moon is inconjunct Mars and will make no aspect to it in it's present sign.
The other two planets are Mercury and Venus but both are in Scorpio and inconjunct Mars and Jupiter So whilst the Moon does aspect a tenth House planet, this does not seem likely of itself to come to much at all.
I checked for antiscia, and there is no connection between Mars and Jupiter but there is a connection between Moon and Jupiter, by contrantiscion. This has the same qualities as an opposition, so I have to take it that the positive result is either denied or if available is so only with great difficulty and you probably won't like the outcome.
Sadly, none of this adds up to clear signs of change in employment situation. There are tantalising glimpses but nothing that leads me to conclude that change is definitely coming in the next six months.
The next step will be for me to look at the employment data you gave me and see if I can see a change signalled by the natal factors. If there is, then it might give a little more substance to the positive indicators in this chart.
Oh, well.... This is already starting to look almost fantastic, really. Four years to be. Thanks for your reading, Minderwiz and no, I didn't notice any job, may be it was my fault, but I'm kind of tired of checking every day and sending resumes every day, so... But I guess I'll have to start again.
Hm... Because I don't want to lose hope LOL, I realized some time ago I decided to be proactive and tried to bring some of my work abroad here, at home so to speak... Nothing came out of it but since Mars is in my first house, who knows...
Minderwiz
06-12-2012, 02:14
Hi Minderwiz, would I be able to ask a question about my love life over the next six months, specifically outlook for my relationship with my current partner - we are going through a rough patch and I am misliking the emotional full moon at the end of the month with my birthday on 29th Dec... especially after our argument this full moon just past on 1st Dec! (Dates are GMT+12) Thank you
Hi Minderwiz, an update on this - the relationship has just broken up :( just a few hours ago actually. Not sure if we should change the question... I am interested to know what the next six to 12 months holds romantically, as well as mutual feelings on the relationship that just ended, for example getting back together or whether tonight was the end?
This is a changed reading because circumstances had overtaken the original question during the time that I was drawing up a chart. As the two questions are clearly related I decided to use the chart that I had drawn up to answer the second question. In effect the question became, 'Will we separate and if so will we get back together?'
The chart has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon and he is signified by Saturn (ruler of Capricorn on the Descendant).
The Moon is placed in Leo in the third House of short journeys. In Leo the Moon is Peregrine, which usually indicates a need for help or guidance or a feeling of lack of direction or not being sure what to do next. The third house is not a strong house but it is not one of the worst places to be placed as it sextiles the Ascendant.
Saturn is in Scorpio, where it too is Peregrine so he is feeling very much the same as you, whether he shows it or not.
The Moon at 20 degrees Leo is separating from a square to Saturn. Squares signify tension, problems, obstacles and difficulties. A separating aspect shows things that have happened in the past. So the chart shows an argument or significant problems in the past. When I cast the chart I took this to mean the argument on the first of December that you had referred to in your opening post. What I only realised as I began to check the chart after your last post is that Saturn lies very close to the contrantiscion of the Moon. This point has the properties of an opposition, so you are moving from one point of tension, the previous square which was in play around the time you asked your original question to another point of tension, which was in play at your break up. So if I'd have read the chart without your news, I'd say there was a good chance that you would have broken up.
The second part of your question is will there be a reconciliation. The Moon will indeed begin to apply to a sextile with Saturn, as it nears the end of Leo. However even before that happens it will square Mercury (also in Scorpio). This seems to suggest that something will happen to prevent the reconciliation form happening.
You don't give any information about the nature of the argument, but it's quite possible given the proximity of the Mercury square that either someone else or something else was involved. This does not have to be romantically, as the square is not really a romantic aspect. In your chart Mercuy signifies the home, as it rules the IC and it rules the twelfth House. So the argument might be purely domestic, or result in a disruption to your domestic arrangements, or it might indicate a person or thing that was in some-way concealed or hidden. A discovery that you are about to make that will make reconciliation difficult (or given the earlier casting of the chart, led to the break up).
Is there anyone else who is a possilbe romantic link in the next 12 months? The obvious candidate in the chart is Mars, in exaltation in Capricorn and sitting directly on the Descendant. However there's no aspect forming between Moon and Mars. Oddly there is a separating trine between Saturn and Mars and the two are in mutual reception by sign - so this might be someone for him, rather than you.
In the current situation I can see the breakup but there's no strong indication of a reconciliation. There do seem to be some intriguing possibles - Mercury whatever or whoever it signifies is of interest to you as the Moon is in the Terms of Mercury. So even though there's a square, it's not altogether a bad experience. It suggests that particular someone or something may frustrate your chances of a reconciliation. If not then there may well be a chance in the next three weeks or so. Don't place too much hope on it though.
Mars on the Descendant is also intriguing, though there is no indication of a romance in that direction at the moment. The chart links are actually much stronger between Saturn and Mars. However if you allow three weeks or so to pass and there's no obvious signs of a reconciliation happening, then ask again and I'll do another chart to see if 'Mars' turns out to be a real romantic prospect.
Minderwiz
07-12-2012, 00:08
Great!
I would like you to see how my love life will develop in the coming 6 months. Thanks!!!
Hi Minderwiz,
I am not in a relationship but have been getting readings that an ex might come back in my life, so prob #3 on your list ... I'd like to know if there is a relationship possibility in the next 6 months.
Thanks!!
This question was tweaked to have the ex as the significant other. A Yes answer suggests that you will begin a relationship with him in the next 6 months but a no answer does not preclude a relationship with anyone else.
The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is currently in Scorpio, where it is Peregrine, which suggests someone not sure of what direction to go in or quite what to do, or needing help and advice. Saturn is also situated in the eighth house of the chart, which is usually seen as a weak placement, from which it is difficult to do anything about the matter of the question. This does describe the background of the question, as you have stated it. You have been told by others (the help and advice) that the ex is going to come back into your life, but unless you try deliberate action, events will take their course outside your control. This is stressed by Saturn's conjunction to the Lot of Fortune, which is related to those things that happen to you outside your contriol - luck or fortune.
The ex is signified by the Sun (also a natural significator of men) and the Sun is currently in Sagittarius, where it is the Triplicity ruler. The Sun is the stronger planet with more power to act, and this seems again to describe a situation where his actions will in some way bring him back into your life. The Sun lies in the tenth House, so it might be that his return is in some way related to your work or to some action you inadvertently take, or it might simply signify that he is in a postion to act and has the power to do so.
The Sun is in the Terms of Venus and the Face of the Moon, two feminine symbols, so he may well be thinking about romance in some way. It is interesting that Saturn has only two planets as rulers of the degree in which it is situated, it is in the Sign and Face of Mars and the Triplcity and Terms of Venus, again both having signification in romantic questions.
There is however no aspect forming between Sun and Saturn and they are in adjacent signs. So we have to check other factors to see if there is a link between these two planets or between you and him in someway.
The Moon can act as a co-significator for the person asking the question. In this case the Moon is in Virgo In the Triplicity, Terms and Face of Venus. The Moon is also in the seventh House of partnerships (though not in the sign on the cusp) and is applying by square to the Sun in Sagittarius (his significator).
The square is not really a very romantic aspect as it has connotations of obstacles, tensions, trouble and difficulty. However squares can lead to the matter being perfected though there is of course the implied problems and difficulties to contend with. That Venus rules the Terms of both Sun and Moon and that the Sun is in the Face of the Moon are positive though weak supporting testimonies to the matter coming about.
So up to now it seems that it's highly likely he comes back into your life in some way, though the rekindling of the relationship may be accompanied by difficulties and it is not certain that these can be overcome.
There's another possible negative factor. As well as applying to the square with the Sun, the Moon is also applying to a trine with Mars. The positions in the chart put the Sun very slightly nearer to the Moon than Mars is, but the Sun is the faster moving planet. Moving the chart forward I can see that the Moon perfects each aspect to these two at virtually the same time. It's as though there's a someone else or something else that happens at the same time. Whether this even is going to stop the reconciliation or not I can't tell. It may even be that you meet someone else at this time, as Saturn and Mars are in mutual reception by sign.
So in summary there's a good chance he will come back into your life and this could lead to the relationship rekindling. There will be difficulties, not least that you either meet someone else or that something else distracts you. If it's a something else then it could well relate to travel plans, higher education or other ninth house matters as Mars rules the ninth or possibly to income as Mars rules the second.
Minderwiz
07-12-2012, 05:38
The question here has been the subject of discussion and negotiation between safari and myself. The agreed question is:
riginally Posted by safari
i would go with this one :
will a separation happen between me and my partner ? if yes, will we reunite again or get separated for life ?
i would like to know about what happens in next one year to cover more possibilities in terms of this relationship.
The chart has Leo rising, so you are signified by the Sun. It's a nocturnal chart so this weakens your position somewhat. The Sun is in Sagittarius, where it would be the Triplicity ruler if this was a day chart. However at night the triplicity is ruled by Jupiter. This would leave the Sun Peregrine by night, as well as out of sect. I think this simply indicates your lack of certainty and being very unsure of what may happen or indeed what would happen if there was a break up.
The Sun is in the fifth House, which actually begins at zero Sagittarius, this is a fairly good position in the chart and also indicates, through the fifth house links, that your concern and interest is in romance (very much so given that Jupiter is both sign ruler and triplicity ruler). Your other concerns are shown by the remaining dignities at the degree of the Sun. These are Venus, the Term ruler and Venus rules the IC, that is your home life and through Taurus intercepted in the tenthl, your work prospects (especially if there is a break up). The remaining dignity is that of the Moon, which rules the twelfth House of hidden and secret activities. Again you are worried about things that may be happening that you are unaware of (this is the least of the indicated concerns). So the condition of the Sun accurately describes the situation you find yourself in.
Your partner is signified by Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio where it is in a mutual reception with Mars in Capricorn. So your partner is in a stronger situation than you - possibly because he does not share your concerns. Saturn is firmly placed in the fourth House, so he is staying in your home, and there's no indication that he is likely to leave. From what you've told me, if you break up you will have to leave the counrtry, so him remaining at home does not of itself guarantee no break up.
There is no aspect forming between Saturn and the Sun, indeed as they are in adjacent signs they are inconjunct. There's also no mutual reception, which I might have expected. Given that you have said, this is not surprising as things have not been that easy, however there's no indication of separation, merely of relating too and noticing each other.
Nor do I see any other person intervening to effect a separation. The Moon, is separating from a square to the Sun and it's next aspect is a sextile to Venus (your home) This seems to suggest that things are likely to get more comfortable at home, rather than worse.
If there was any significant chance of you having to leave the country, that is in the past. At the time that the Moon squared the Sun it also trined Mars, which rules the ninth house of overseas travel. As the aspect is now separating, that indicates clearly that we are talking about past events or possibilities. This might simply reflect those readings which disturbed you (and involved your travelling back to your home country).
In summary
I don't see a split coming, if anything things will begin to improve between you. There is work to be done on the relationship but from what you have said this is already underway. I should be very surprised if anything untoward happens in this relationship over the period.
The question here has been the subject of discussion and negotiation between safari and myself. The agreed question is:
The chart has Leo rising, so you are signified by the Sun. It's a nocturnal chart so this weakens your position somewhat. The Sun is in Sagittarius, where it would be the Triplicity ruler if this was a day chart. However at night the triplicity is ruled by Jupiter. This would leave the Sun Peregrine by night, as well as out of sect. I think this simply indicates your lack of certainty and being very unsure of what may happen or indeed what would happen if there was a break up.
The Sun is in the fifth House, which actually begins at zero Sagittarius, this is a fairly good position in the chart and also indicates, through the fifth house links, that your concern and interest is in romance (very much so given that Jupiter is both sign ruler and triplicity ruler). Your other concerns are shown by the remaining dignities at the degree of the Sun. These are Venus, the Term ruler and Venus rules the IC, that is your home life and through Taurus intercepted in the tenthl, your work prospects (especially if there is a break up). The remaining dignity is that of the Moon, which rules the twelfth House of hidden and secret activities. Again you are worried about things that may be happening that you are unaware of (this is the least of the indicated concerns). So the condition of the Sun accurately describes the situation you find yourself in.
Your partner is signified by Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio where it is in a mutual reception with Mars in Capricorn. So your partner is in a stronger situation than you - possibly because he does not share your concerns. Saturn is firmly placed in the fourth House, so he is staying in your home, and there's no indication that he is likely to leave. From what you've told me, if you break up you will have to leave the counrtry, so him remaining at home does not of itself guarantee no break up.
There is no aspect forming between Saturn and the Sun, indeed as they are in adjacent signs they are inconjunct. There's also no mutual reception, which I might have expected. Given that you have said, this is not surprising as things have not been that easy, however there's no indication of separation, merely of relating too and noticing each other.
Nor do I see any other person intervening to effect a separation. The Moon, is separating from a square to the Sun and it's next aspect is a sextile to Venus (your home) This seems to suggest that things are likely to get more comfortable at home, rather than worse.
If there was any significant chance of you having to leave the country, that is in the past. At the time that the Moon squared the Sun it also trined Mars, which rules the ninth house of overseas travel. As the aspect is now separating, that indicates clearly that we are talking about past events or possibilities. This might simply reflect those readings which disturbed you (and involved your travelling back to your home country).
In summary
I don't see a split coming, if anything things will begin to improve between you. There is work to be done on the relationship but from what you have said this is already underway. I should be very surprised if anything untoward happens in this relationship over the period.
hey minderwiz, this reading has definitely come as a sign of relief . you have no idea what i have been going through after reading so much about this upcoming upheavel in my life. i wonder why have i been given such readings and why such contrast outcomes ? however , i would like to believe your reading and keep a positive attitude about it. thank you so much for this positive reading :) i truly truly appreciate it buddy . thanks so much.
This question was tweaked to have the ex as the significant other. A Yes answer suggests that you will begin a relationship with him in the next 6 months but a no answer does not preclude a relationship with anyone else.
The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is currently in Scorpio, where it is Peregrine, which suggests someone not sure of what direction to go in or quite what to do, or needing help and advice. Saturn is also situated in the eighth house of the chart, which is usually seen as a weak placement, from which it is difficult to do anything about the matter of the question. This does describe the background of the question, as you have stated it. You have been told by others (the help and advice) that the ex is going to come back into your life, but unless you try deliberate action, events will take their course outside your control. This is stressed by Saturn's conjunction to the Lot of Fortune, which is related to those things that happen to you outside your contriol - luck or fortune.
I do feel like I've done all I could and me pressing the matter wont help. I think it needs to come from him, since he was the one doing the back and forth. He needs to make a decision (which he has) and roll with it. I have to accept the fact that we're not together and move on. So, if anything were to happen, it would be out of my control.
The ex is signified by the Sun (also a natural significator of men) and the Sun is currently in Sagittarius, where it is the Triplicity ruler. The Sun is the stronger planet with more power to act, and this seems again to describe a situation where his actions will in some way bring him back into your life. The Sun lies in the tenth House, so it might be that his return is in some way related to your work or to some action you inadvertently take, or it might simply signify that he is in a postion to act and has the power to do so.
Funny :) he's actually really blonde like the sun and is a Sagittarious, bday next week. No, our work is no longer tied together. We worked together a couple of year's ago, but nothing else ... but I guess you never know. He is a work-a-holic, so I assume maybe that he's job will lighten the load, which could be a reason for him to reach out. His job is one of the main reasons we are no longer together.
The Sun is in the Terms of Venus and the Face of the Moon, two feminine symbols, so he may well be thinking about romance in some way. It is interesting that Saturn has only two planets as rulers of the degree in which it is situated, it is in the Sign and Face of Mars and the Triplcity and Terms of Venus, again both having signification in romantic questions.
There is however no aspect forming between Sun and Saturn and they are in adjacent signs. So we have to check other factors to see if there is a link between these two planets or between you and him in someway.
The Moon can act as a co-significator for the person asking the question. In this case the Moon is in Virgo In the Triplicity, Terms and Face of Venus. The Moon is also in the seventh House of partnerships (though not in the sign on the cusp) and is applying by square to the Sun in Sagittarius (his significator).
The square is not really a very romantic aspect as it has connotations of obstacles, tensions, trouble and difficulty. However squares can lead to the matter being perfected though there is of course the implied problems and difficulties to contend with. That Venus rules the Terms of both Sun and Moon and that the Sun is in the Face of the Moon are positive though weak supporting testimonies to the matter coming about.
So up to now it seems that it's highly likely he comes back into your life in some way, though the rekindling of the relationship may be accompanied by difficulties and it is not certain that these can be overcome.
There are a lot of things to overcome if we were to get back together. His work, my training and my family life will all have to be discussed and somehow a balance would need to be agreed upon.
There's another possible negative factor. As well as applying to the square with the Sun, the Moon is also applying to a trine with Mars. The positions in the chart put the Sun very slightly nearer to the Moon than Mars is, but the Sun is the faster moving planet. Moving the chart forward I can see that the Moon perfects each aspect to these two at virtually the same time. It's as though there's a someone else or something else that happens at the same time. Whether this even is going to stop the reconciliation or not I can't tell. It may even be that you meet someone else at this time, as Saturn and Mars are in mutual reception by sign.
So in summary there's a good chance he will come back into your life and this could lead to the relationship rekindling. There will be difficulties, not least that you either meet someone else or that something else distracts you. If it's a something else then it could well relate to travel plans, higher education or other ninth house matters as Mars rules the ninth or possibly to income as Mars rules the second.
One distraction that I thought about was my training. I have a huge race coming up in July, many states away and I am very committed to making it a very good race. That means more time on the training schedule than anything else .... and well ... His job too. Very demanding in time and well, it is what it is. As far as someone else, sure, it could happen.
Thank you so much for the reading ... I hope that things turn out well, as i miss him very very much.
Thank you!
scorpiogirl
11-12-2012, 05:45
OK that makes a lot of sense, so here goes:
I cast a chart yesterday for the question simply relating to travel plans and then thought that there might be something more to it than just a visit. I have attached the chart.
The chart has Scorpio rising, which in itself suggests a radical chart LOL. Mars is in Virgo in the tenth House of Activity Work and Career, so you may either have been at work or concerned with work around the time that you asked the question. Mars is in the Triplicity and Face of Venus, who rules the eleventh House of Friends (and Hopes and Aspirations) so he is a priority as well and Mars is in the Terms of Jupiter, so Money (probably the cost of the trip) is also on your list of priorities. Mars is not particularly strong in Virgo
As you have stressed that he is a friend, he's signified by Venus who rules the eleventh. Interestingly Venus also rules the Seventh of partners. Venus is in Gemini and currently in bad condition. She's retrograde in the eighth and under the Sun's Beams. Two indications here that she (He) cannot be seen. What's more being retrograde, she's moving away from Mars, not towards it.
The trip is signified by the Moon, ruler of the ninth House of overseas travel. The Moon is in Capricorn, where she is in Detriment (so the trip and it's planning are not strong. Moreover the Moon opposes the ninth cusp. I think there could well be problems with the trip and/or its planning
The good news though is that Mars is in a partile Trine to the Moon from Virgo to Capricorn. So you are almost certain to make the trip to Venice. The Moon is in the Exaltation and Face of Mars, so (astrologically) Mars receives the Moon into Capricorn and I think that is going to ensure that any problems with the trip are likely to be ones that can be overcome.
The issue of his feelings is a little more difficult. With Venus moving away from Mars, I think he is a going to be a little more 'distanct' with you. However Venus is at least in the Face of Mars, so there's some positive feeling there. I don't see it as being strongly romantic, or even particularly romantic at all. Venus is in it's own Terms, so he's more concerned with himself - The eighth House of the radical chart is the tenth House from the Eleventh, so his primary concern is his own career (not surprising given the information you've given) and the weakness of Venus in the chart might suggest that career will take him further away from you, though I can't be certain of that.
So, Yes the trip will go ahead but be prepared for some hitches or issues which are likely to be annoying rather than anything that really threatens your plans to much. You may find him more interested in being friends than anything else and perhaps more concerned with his career than any other single issue.
Update no. 2 yes I saw P and I made the trip of course. It ended up to be more romantic than I imagined which is good. P ended up falling for me hard. But now I am sad because its all going so fast and its long distance and my ex and I just broke up not long ago, so much at one time!!! You could be right about his career taking me away from him he is very career oriented person. The hitches & annoyances you foresaw were that I got sick with a nasty cold in Venice, it was brutally cold which I am not used to at all. So the situation is very complicated but I am very happy. Thank You so much!!!!!!!!
Minderwiz
11-12-2012, 07:02
Thanks for the update :)
I hope things really work out for you :)
Minderwiz
19-01-2013, 06:03
Hi Minderwiz. I'd like to participate in this thread if you are still taking sitters.
I want to know the likelihood of my finding something to keep me occupied/interested outside of the home in the next 9 months or so. I have tried various things in the past, but they all seem to meet the same, sorry, fate ! An astrologer told me a couple of years ago that a * passion* for something would materialise around the autumn of 2013, so I would be interested to see if you see the same thing or not, and any trends this year generally.
I can't remember whether location comes into this at the time of asking the question ? I'm in the UK now, but will return *home* to Shanghai in a couple of weeks. If this is problematic then I will wait and ask again once back there. Many thanks :)
The key question I have is what type of 'something' are you looking for? By that I mean are you talking about developing a hobby or pastime of some kind that gets you out of the house. Or are you thinking about employment or a full time vocation (whether paid or unpaid)? It would make a difference to how I read the chart.
It could be any of those. But as I tend to be an all or nothing kind of a person I'm being pulled towards "vocation"; as you say, this might be paid or otherwise. Thankyou.
The chart for this question has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon. The Moon is in Aries and lies in the tenth House. The Moon is in none of her own dignities and although the Sun is low it has not set yet, so the Moon is not essentially strong but is very well placed in the chart. There's little that you can actively do to affect the outcome but you're in the right position to benefit should it happen. The position in the tenth also confirms your interest in the work/vocation possibility.
The Option you identified was something connected with Vocation, either paid or unpaid, but I will also look at the possibility of something relating to hobbies, pastimes, or other activity that you do for enjoyment, such as sports or physical exercise of some sort.
The tenth House is ruled by Jupiter, and Jupiter is Retrograde in Gemini, where it is also in Detriment. So if this is to do with work or vocation of some sort it is not a particularly good or attractive possibility. However, although the Moon sextiles Jupiter, it is a separating sextile and as Jupiter is retrograde there is mutual separation. If this does relate to something to do with work or vocation it is in the past, and is not significant of a future passion.
Hobbies, pastimes, sports, fun and romance are all ruled by the fifth House, as is an interest in arts, socialising for pleasure and eating and drinking for pleasure. The fifth House is ruled by Mars. Now the Moon is actually in an applying sextile to Mars, so this promises something for the future. Mars is not in any of it's own dignities, so again what is promised is not necessarily highly desireable. Being in the Terms of Jupiter, it might have some connection to vocation but will not be it's main nature. Possibilities are things that are 'Martial' in nature. This could encompass sporting activities, exercise such as walking. or martial arts, military history or matters connected to military activities, such as a passion for collecting medals, models, etc.
So yes there does seem to be something for you to get passionate about. It seems to be related in some way or other with hobbies/pastimes/sports/exercise or perhaps a military connection.
Good luck!
Minderwiz
19-01-2013, 20:35
Hi samantha. I accidentally edited your feedback by clicking on 'edit' rather than 'quote'. I 'poste' before I realised the error. I could not restore the original, though I tried. :( So thank you for it and my apologies for hitting the wrong button
Dear God !!!!!!
I hate sports (except ice skating and that not an option), enjoy walking (but again not an option once I am back; too polluted ) and have absolutely no interest, and some distaste, for things related to the military. I have been on a restricted diet for the last year, so even the eating and drinking you mentioned earlier are not really an option !
Are there really no other possibilities ??!! Perhaps one or two slipped away whilst you weren't looking ?? :(
:) Actually Mars rules 'passion' lol, so it could just be a general strong and active desire that gets you out of the house :) The fifth House is concerned with romance too :)
Mars signifies action and assertion, so there could be many ways that the 'passion' manifests. You might become an active and keen bird watcher, or stamp collector.
However, I was in a hurry to read the chart (never a good thing) and concentrated on the areas of vocation and hobbies/pastimes but I missed a third possibility that you might get passionate about. Mars rules the eleventh House through Aries. The eleventh House is traditionally associated with friends, so you might develop a strong and active friendship.
The eleventh House is also traditionally signifies the 'king's advisers and counsellors' and in a modern context this has been extended to include parliaments and legislatures and through them politics and elections. So you might get passionate about some political cause or join a political party. I think this could also be extended to interest and pressure groups which campaign for particular causes.
With simply 'a passion' to go on, it's very difficult to be more precise than it will involve you in being active and asserting yourself in some way (even if only to a low level). I'm not suggesting that you are likely to seek election or will become a leading member of a campaign but you may well get interested in such an activity, even if only by distributing leaflets. Indeed given the essential dignity of Mars, it would most likely be be some sort of low level activity,
Looking at Mars, it's in a humane sign (Aquarius) in the Sign and Triplicity of Saturn (which represents structure, organisation and scientific enquiry, then it could easily be a passion for something that is designed to promote human happiness/relieve human misery by joining some form of organisation dedicated to that.
EDIT: I am a Cancerian. Is there any significance in this given that I am also signified by it in this reading, or just coincidence ?
Nothing is 'just coincidence' :) Though I'd be more impressed if your rising sign was Cancer, or the Moon was prominent in your chart,
samantha
20-01-2013, 21:53
:) Actually Mars rules 'passion' lol, so it could just be a general strong and active desire that gets you out of the house :) The fifth House is concerned with romance too :)
:) My husband had better keep an eye on me then :)
However, I was in a hurry to read the chart (never a good thing) and concentrated on the areas of vocation and hobbies/pastimes but I missed a third possibility that you might get passionate about. Mars rules the eleventh House through Aries. The eleventh House is traditionally associated with friends, so you might develop a strong and active friendship.
Ah! Someone else (not an astrologer though) told me that someone who could become a *lifelong* friend would be materialising before the end of the year. That said, doesn't Saturn govern protracted periods of time?
The eleventh House is also traditionally signifies the 'king's advisers and counsellors' and in a modern context this has been extended to include parliaments and legislatures and through them politics and elections. So you might get passionate about some political cause or join a political party. I think this could also be extended to interest and pressure groups which campaign for particular causes.
Hmm. This might be a possibility. In the past I have either ranted about issues at home or given donations etc Perhaps 2013 is the year to get more involved.
I'm not suggesting that you are likely to seek election or will become a leading member of a campaign.......
Aww.... :(
......but you may well get interested in such an activity, even if only by distributing leaflets.
LEAFLETS ????!!!! (just joking...)
Looking at Mars, it's in a humane sign (Aquarius) in the Sign and Triplicity of Saturn (which represents structure, organisation and scientific enquiry, then
it could easily be a passion for something that is designed to promote human happiness/relieve human misery by joining some form of organisation dedicated to that.
Right. This is exactly the kind of thing I would go for. I hate injustice . I'm assuming that Aquarius covers the animal kingdom as a whole, not just humans ?
Thanks for the additional insites here; much more appealing than the prospect of polishing brass buttons :) X
Minderwiz
21-01-2013, 01:11
Hi Minderwiz,
If the thread is still open, I'd love some feedback on a question...
Can you tell how my relationship with C will develop over the next 6-12 months (love interest)?
Thank you so much.
The chart I cast for the question has Cancer rising so you are signified by the Moon and C is signified by Saturn.
The Moon is in Taurus, where it is in exaltation and it is in the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations. This is a fairly good placement.
Saturn is in the fifth House of Romance, so is clearly your romantic interest. Saturn has no essential dignity, which suggests that C might be somewhat timid or fearful, not easily able to make a decision or act upon it. Saturn is not in any dignity of the Moon (or vice versa) so there does not seem to be any compelling force that will bring you two together.
Indeed the Moon is separating from an opposition to Saturn,. If you two are already acquainted, this might suggest some form of disagreement in the past, or a separation in the past, which is now likely to end. If you two do not know each other, then I would take this to mean that something has kept you apart but is now likely to come to an end.
The removal of an obstacle does not necessitate a satisfactory conclusion though. The Moon is not applying to Saturn by a good aspect, which I would want to see for that. Indeed the Moon is applying to a square with Mars, which rules the fifth House. Mars therefore signifies 'Romance' in general but not specifically C (who as a 'named' individual in ruled by the sevemth House).
The square aspect suggests that romance might come but not necessarily easily or be what you hoped if you achieve it. There would be difficulties ahead. Such a conclusion does not directly involve C but oddly I notice that Mars lies very near the antisicon of Saturn, a relationship similar to a conjunction. I've never seen a horary text which treats an application to a planet at the anticscion of the significator of the quesited as being an indication of a succesfull ourcome, so I'm not going to take it as such but equally I'm not going to rule it out completely. If it does have any positive meaning then it is not a strong one.
In summary, there is a possible indication of romance but it is one that indicates difficulties and delays and it is by no means clear that a romance with C would occur.
I can perhaps refine it a little if you can give me some indication of your current relationship if any with C, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope that things will develop from what they are now.
Minderwiz
21-01-2013, 01:20
:) My husband had better keep an eye on me then :)
If it were not for your later comments, I'd suggest he locks you away :)
Hmm. This might be a possibility. In the past I have either ranted about issues at home or given donations etc Perhaps 2013 is the year to get more involved.
......
LEAFLETS ????!!!! (just joking...)
Well if you get really passionate you might yet stand for election for a local committee or even spend the time writing and printing the leaflets LOL
Right. This is exactly the kind of thing I would go for. I hate injustice . I'm assuming that Aquarius covers the animal kingdom as a whole, not just humans ?
Not the animal kingdom as such but it would signify a belief in the humane treatment of animals. Yes this area does look like something that fits in more with what you are looking for, Just wish I'd spotted it first time round.
Phoenix11
21-01-2013, 07:19
The chart I cast for the question has Cancer rising so you are signified by the Moon and C is signified by Saturn.
The Moon is in Taurus, where it is in exaltation and it is in the eleventh House of hopes and aspirations. This is a fairly good placement.
Saturn is in the fifth House of Romance, so is clearly your romantic interest. Saturn has no essential dignity, which suggests that C might be somewhat timid or fearful, not easily able to make a decision or act upon it. Saturn is not in any dignity of the Moon (or vice versa) so there does not seem to be any compelling force that will bring you two together.
Thank you very much... Yes, C is a romantic interest. He has been fearful of getting in a relationship because of financial difficulties. I don't see the situation changing until things stabilize with him, which I think will still take some time.
Indeed the Moon is separating from an opposition to Saturn,. If you two are already acquainted, this might suggest some form of disagreement in the past, or a separation in the past, which is now likely to end. If you two do not know each other, then I would take this to mean that something has kept you apart but is now likely to come to an end.
True also... we had a falling out last spring and didn't speak for a couple of months. We have started talking again, but things haven't been the same... we're not as close as we used to be.
The removal of an obstacle does not necessitate a satisfactory conclusion though. The Moon is not applying to Saturn by a good aspect, which I would want to see for that. Indeed the Moon is applying to a square with Mars, which rules the fifth House. Mars therefore signifies 'Romance' in general but not specifically C (who as a 'named' individual in ruled by the sevemth House).
The square aspect suggests that romance might come but not necessarily easily or be what you hoped if you achieve it. There would be difficulties ahead. Such a conclusion does not directly involve C but oddly I notice that Mars lies very near the antisicon of Saturn, a relationship similar to a conjunction. I've never seen a horary text which treats an application to a planet at the anticscion of the significator of the quesited as being an indication of a succesfull ourcome, so I'm not going to take it as such but equally I'm not going to rule it out completely. If it does have any positive meaning then it is not a strong one.
I think if we were to get into a relationship right now, there might be some difficulty. He did find a better job recently but he's still catching up on bills, need to find a place to live (staying with family now) and trying get back on his feet. I still think it might take at least until the end of the year or early next year.
In summary, there is a possible indication of romance but it is one that indicates difficulties and delays and it is by no means clear that a romance with C would occur.
I can perhaps refine it a little if you can give me some indication of your current relationship if any with C, but I'm not holding out a lot of hope that things will develop from what they are now.
Does this just cover the next 6-12 months? I can see that things might not happen between us for awhile yet, but I just don't want to miss an opportunity... I am keeping my distance from him until he works things out for himself, but I'm afraid he thinks I just lost interest... I never contact him anymore and I feel like he's almost afraid to contact me, that I don't want to hear from him.. but that's not the case.. I just don't want to put any pressure on him... He knows how I feel and I put so much effort into trying to work things out with him before but it was too draining to feel rejected all the time, so I decided to just let him come to me.
Thank you again :)
Minderwiz
21-01-2013, 21:22
Does this just cover the next 6-12 months? I can see that things might not happen between us for awhile yet, but I just don't want to miss an opportunity... I am keeping my distance from him until he works things out for himself, but I'm afraid he thinks I just lost interest... I never contact him anymore and I feel like he's almost afraid to contact me, that I don't want to hear from him.. but that's not the case.. I just don't want to put any pressure on him... He knows how I feel and I put so much effort into trying to work things out with him before but it was too draining to feel rejected all the time, so I decided to just let him come to me.
Thank you again :)
Yes, the period is the one that you originally asked for - 6-12 months. However that does not preclude you from contacting him :-) Indeed I would suggest that you do keep in touch but without making him feel under pressure. Let him know you miss not having him in your life, that you fully understand his situation but would like to keep in touch.
You recognise the need not to pressure him but he needs to know you're still there. Don't push but at least send the occasional message, even if he doesn't always reply.
Phoenix11
22-01-2013, 00:38
Yes, the period is the one that you originally asked for - 6-12 months. However that does not preclude you from contacting him :-) Indeed I would suggest that you do keep in touch but without making him feel under pressure. Let him know you miss not having him in your life, that you fully understand his situation but would like to keep in touch.
You recognise the need not to pressure him but he needs to know you're still there. Don't push but at least send the occasional message, even if he doesn't always reply.
Thank you.. I will give it a little while and if I don't hear from him, I'll contact him.
Thanks again :)
Minderwiz
31-01-2013, 06:59
Hi Minderwiz, as we PM'ed would you be able to cast a horary for my love life outlook over the next six months - specifically a reconciliation with my ex boyfriend, or failing which then what new developments are likely? Thank you.
The chart cast has Leo rising, so you are signified by the Sun. Your ex is signified by Saturn.
The Sun is in the Seventh House, which shows you as definitely seeking a long term relationship with him. There's no exaltation ruler for Aquarius and Saturn is the Triplicity ruler, emphasising your strong interest. The Sun is also in the Terms and Face of Venus, a natural significator or young women and also romance. Venus however is placed in the sixth, perhaps a signification that you are 'lovesick' :) or at least that the romance has not gone well.
Saturn is in Scorpio where it is Peregrine, but at least it's in the Face of the Sun - indicating some positive feeling for you, if not particularly strong. Saturn is also in the Terms of Venus, so he's not averse to romance, the issue clearly is 'will it be you'. Saturn is in the fourth house of the chart, which is his tenth house. So his key interest is his career or profession.
However the Sun is applying to Saturn by square - a very close square, from 9 degrees Aquarius to 11 degrees Scorpio. That is an extremely positive sign and indicates that you and he are likely to get together again. However, the square aspect indicates delays and difficulties in this and as both planets are in fixed signs that means that the process would be rather lengthy to start with.
Trying to fix a time period in Horary is never easy. The gap of 2 degrees suggests 2 time periods, but there is obviously a choice of days, weeks or months. I'd go for months, given that fixed signs are involved and add perhaps another month or possibly two for the square.
So yes, it does look like you will get back together in the next six months but I don't see it as being an easy process and I'd say probably three or four months, assuming the difficulties are overcome.
It's clear that you are far more keen on the reunion than he is but there is positive feelings on his part. My guess is tht he is going to be the 'difficulties' as he comes round to the idea of renewing the romance. It hopefully will happen. but you may need to work quite hard to get that result.
Incidentally, Venus rules both Lots of Marriage for a female. The first being in Taurus, where Venus rules both the sign and the Triplicity and the second being in Pisces where Venus is the exaltation ruler and also the triplicity ruler. As both the Sun and Saturn are in the Terms of Venus this seems to point clearly in one direction. Again though remember Venus is not well placed, by house, though she is in the sign and terms of Saturn. He holds the key here - Go get him!!
Minderwiz
02-02-2013, 19:47
Are you taking questions??
I would like to know why people dont like me??
This is actually a difficult question for me to deal with as it's closely linked to natal issues and might be better read from your natal chart. I remember some time ago on a natal reading finding issues in your chart that might not endear you to others...you are an intelligent, assertive woman, who does not suffer fools gladly and that can put people's noses out of joint in any culture, but especially in a culture which expects women to take a passive/deferential/submissive role. It was that natal exercise that challenged me to try for a horary reading. I'm still not sure it's the correct way forward and it might not work but here goes:
First point - I'm using a chart with whole sign houses, as I'm drawing on Hellenistic Lots for some of the reading.
The chart has Leo rising which has you signified by the Sun. Leo is a fixed sign, so you are rather stubborn in your attitudes to people you disagree with or indeed in general. And you can also be 'firy' in your attitude. In this chart the Sun is in its detriment of Aquarius,can and placed in the seventh House conjunct the Descendant. I think this suggests that you feel vulnerable when you are challenged or even have a feeling that everyone is against you (which is the premise of the question).
Traditional Astrology highlights two kinds of 'enemies', those who are open about it and those who are secret (operate behind your back or without you being aware of it). The former are ruled by the seventh House, the latter by the twelfth. I think your question is more a seventh house one, as you clearly feel upset or threatened by antigonism.
The ruler of the twelfth House is Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio from where it squares the Sun to the exact degree. So there is a clear challenging and indeed difficult aspect at work. Saturn though is at least in the Face of the Sun, so whilst there is a challenge, there's also a respect for you. It might be grudging but it's there. The Sun is Aquarius, is in the sign of Saturn, so you are the more deffensive or overawed'
Saturn is in the sign of Mars, which here is in the fourth House, and that can signify roots, family, and indeed culture. So I'd suggest one reason is that you are seen as a challenge to the cultural ideal of 'family'. That is not to say that your own husband and children hold this view, but it is likely to be held by your parents (who are also signified by the fourth house) and I think that was established by your comments in the natal work of earlier.
Saturn is in the Triplicity of Mars too, so that shows that you as a challenge to the 'family/roots/culture' is the overwhelming reason. Saturn is in the Terms of Mercury, so to a lesser extent it's your mind - it wouldn't be so bad if you were weak minded but you are not.
What can you do about it?
I've drawn up 5 Hellenistic Lots to help analyse the situation further.
The Lot of Enemies lies in your first House in Leo. So you are your own worst enemy here - you might consider modifying your behaviour and not rising to the bait so often. There are times when you have to bite your tongue.
The Lot of Necessity relates to restrictive and difficult situations, imprisonments, subordination and adversarial relationships. This Lot is ruled by Venus and lies in Libra, in the Terms of Venus and Face of Jupiter. It's in the third house, of siblings and neighbours so these may be where the arguments tend to lie. I'd suggest using Venus here. Venus is benefic, not malefic The Lot of Necessity shows how to adapt and overcome the difficulties. Your challenge is to be more like the cultural norm for young women but still maintain your assertiveness. You've got to learn to be assertive in a more gentle manner (and that's not a contradiction), use relationships (in the widest sense) to build alliances and friendships which you can draw on. The trouble is Venus is not well placed, being in the sixth. So you will find this hard to accomplish. However it is probably your best way forward.
The Lot of Nemesis shows whar you can't change about such situations - that is situations which are more or less permanent. This Lot lies in Cancer in your twelfth House - the house of secret enemies. There's nothing you can do here. The Lot is ruled by the Moon, which is in Libra with the Lot of Necessity. Your' feminine assertion may mitigate but it's not going to remove all your troubles. It might still leave you with some issues with siblings,but it's worth trying.
The Lots of Spirit and Accusation lie in the ninth House with the Lot of Accusation being conjunct your MC.
The Lot of Accusation is a description of you as am 'exile' being away from home, sometimes metaphorically - describing situations in which you feel on your own without friends or support, sometimes literally, that you are abroad in a foreign land. The lot is in the ninth House, which is aq fortunate house but is associated with overseas travel, as well as higher education and learning. The lot is actually sextiled by Mars, Sun and Mercury from the right, and by Jupiter from the left. So things are not as bad as you think. The only hard aspect is from Venus by square. I can't really tell if that means that you would be better moving to another country, I know you have thought about it. and it's possible that that might be a move to think about, but only for career reasons.
The Lot of Spirit shows what you can do by your own efforts to affect your life. As it to lies in the ninth House, that does throw the issue of moving for career reasons back into the consideration. Spirit has connections with career and social status because it shows the effects of your own efforts, and that tends to be the area where we most influence our lives.
Leaving the country is a dramatic and major decision. You might look at the other meaning of the ninth, higher education and embark on studies which would in time give your career a boost. The MC lies in your ninth whole sign house, so a career which itself is related to education, such as a teacher, might be a way forward.
There's no clear answer here but there are things to think about and maybe take soe action, both in personal behaviour and strategies for dealing with others and for trying to deal with that over which you have no control.
This question was tweaked to have the ex as the significant other. A Yes answer suggests that you will begin a relationship with him in the next 6 months but a no answer does not preclude a relationship with anyone else.
The chart has Aquarius rising, so your significator is Saturn. Saturn is currently in Scorpio, where it is Peregrine, which suggests someone not sure of what direction to go in or quite what to do, or needing help and advice. Saturn is also situated in the eighth house of the chart, which is usually seen as a weak placement, from which it is difficult to do anything about the matter of the question. This does describe the background of the question, as you have stated it. You have been told by others (the help and advice) that the ex is going to come back into your life, but unless you try deliberate action, events will take their course outside your control. This is stressed by Saturn's conjunction to the Lot of Fortune, which is related to those things that happen to you outside your contriol - luck or fortune.
The ex is signified by the Sun (also a natural significator of men) and the Sun is currently in Sagittarius, where it is the Triplicity ruler. The Sun is the stronger planet with more power to act, and this seems again to describe a situation where his actions will in some way bring him back into your life. The Sun lies in the tenth House, so it might be that his return is in some way related to your work or to some action you inadvertently take, or it might simply signify that he is in a postion to act and has the power to do so.
The Sun is in the Terms of Venus and the Face of the Moon, two feminine symbols, so he may well be thinking about romance in some way. It is interesting that Saturn has only two planets as rulers of the degree in which it is situated, it is in the Sign and Face of Mars and the Triplcity and Terms of Venus, again both having signification in romantic questions.
There is however no aspect forming between Sun and Saturn and they are in adjacent signs. So we have to check other factors to see if there is a link between these two planets or between you and him in someway.
The Moon can act as a co-significator for the person asking the question. In this case the Moon is in Virgo In the Triplicity, Terms and Face of Venus. The Moon is also in the seventh House of partnerships (though not in the sign on the cusp) and is applying by square to the Sun in Sagittarius (his significator).
The square is not really a very romantic aspect as it has connotations of obstacles, tensions, trouble and difficulty. However squares can lead to the matter being perfected though there is of course the implied problems and difficulties to contend with. That Venus rules the Terms of both Sun and Moon and that the Sun is in the Face of the Moon are positive though weak supporting testimonies to the matter coming about.
So up to now it seems that it's highly likely he comes back into your life in some way, though the rekindling of the relationship may be accompanied by difficulties and it is not certain that these can be overcome.
There's another possible negative factor. As well as applying to the square with the Sun, the Moon is also applying to a trine with Mars. The positions in the chart put the Sun very slightly nearer to the Moon than Mars is, but the Sun is the faster moving planet. Moving the chart forward I can see that the Moon perfects each aspect to these two at virtually the same time. It's as though there's a someone else or something else that happens at the same time. Whether this even is going to stop the reconciliation or not I can't tell. It may even be that you meet someone else at this time, as Saturn and Mars are in mutual reception by sign.
So in summary there's a good chance he will come back into your life and this could lead to the relationship rekindling. There will be difficulties, not least that you either meet someone else or that something else distracts you. If it's a something else then it could well relate to travel plans, higher education or other ninth house matters as Mars rules the ninth or possibly to income as Mars rules the second.
Hi M,
I have further feedback to share --- he reached out to me this past Monday. We've going back and forth a bit. I posed the question to him that I would like to have a two way relationship for us and that I wanted him to think about it, if that's something he could do then to let me know. Is there anything in this chart that would indicate which way he'll decide to go in?
Thanks,
Mona
Minderwiz
03-02-2013, 17:45
I think the best approach is to cast a new chart for the question you've just asked - essentially, 'Will he choose me? - unless you want to modify the question in any wsy.
I think the best approach is to cast a new chart for the question you've just asked - essentially, 'Will he choose me? - unless you want to modify the question in any wsy.
Yes! Do you mind? I would love it if you could.
Thanks!
Mona
Minderwiz
04-02-2013, 04:13
OK Mona, I'll try and see what I can come up with for this question.
So the next two readings are for Mona and Ana.
NamasteIndia
05-02-2013, 20:21
This is actually a difficult question for me to deal with as it's closely linked to natal issues and might be better read from your natal chart. I remember some time ago on a natal reading finding issues in your chart that might not endear you to others...you are an intelligent, assertive woman, who does not suffer fools gladly and that can put people's noses out of joint in any culture, but especially in a culture which expects women to take a passive/deferential/submissive role. It was that natal exercise that challenged me to try for a horary reading. I'm still not sure it's the correct way forward and it might not work but here goes:
ya im intelligent but not in worldly sense. and due to dominance and social restraints im tied down.
First point - I'm using a chart with whole sign houses, as I'm drawing on Hellenistic Lots for some of the reading.
The chart has Leo rising which has you signified by the Sun. Leo is a fixed sign, so you are rather stubborn in your attitudes to people you disagree with or indeed in general. And you can also be 'firy' in your attitude. In this chart the Sun is in its detriment of Aquarius,can and placed in the seventh House conjunct the Descendant. I think this suggests that you feel vulnerable when you are challenged or even have a feeling that everyone is against you (which is the premise of the question).
ya i often feel people are against me but my nature is also difficult one but due to genetic primarily.
Traditional Astrology highlights two kinds of 'enemies', those who are open about it and those who are secret (operate behind your back or without you being aware of it). The former are ruled by the seventh House, the latter by the twelfth. I think your question is more a seventh house one, as you clearly feel upset or threatened by antigonism.
The ruler of the twelfth House is Saturn. Saturn is in Scorpio from where it squares the Sun to the exact degree. So there is a clear challenging and indeed difficult aspect at work. Saturn though is at least in the Face of the Sun, so whilst there is a challenge, there's also a respect for you. It might be grudging but it's there. The Sun is Aquarius, is in the sign of Saturn, so you are the more deffensive or overawed'
i often feel threatened. and i am surrounded by people i dont like so i feel lonely.
i want to be around people i like but they seldom like me.
Saturn is in the sign of Mars, which here is in the fourth House, and that can signify roots, family, and indeed culture. So I'd suggest one reason is that you are seen as a challenge to the cultural ideal of 'family'. That is not to say that your own husband and children hold this view, but it is likely to be held by your parents (who are also signified by the fourth house) and I think that was established by your comments in the natal work of earlier.
Saturn is in the Triplicity of Mars too, so that shows that you as a challenge to the 'family/roots/culture' is the overwhelming reason. Saturn is in the Terms of Mercury, so to a lesser extent it's your mind - it wouldn't be so bad if you were weak minded but you are not.
my mind is disturbed due to childhood experiences and again surrounded by bad people.
What can you do about it?
I've drawn up 5 Hellenistic Lots to help analyse the situation further.
The Lot of Enemies lies in your first House in Leo. So you are your own worst enemy here - you might consider modifying your behaviour and not rising to the bait so often. There are times when you have to bite your tongue.
The Lot of Necessity relates to restrictive and difficult situations, imprisonments, subordination and adversarial relationships. This Lot is ruled by Venus and lies in Libra, in the Terms of Venus and Face of Jupiter. It's in the third house, of siblings and neighbours so these may be where the arguments tend to lie. I'd suggest using Venus here. Venus is benefic, not malefic The Lot of Necessity shows how to adapt and overcome the difficulties. Your challenge is to be more like the cultural norm for young women but still maintain your assertiveness. You've got to learn to be assertive in a more gentle manner (and that's not a contradiction), use relationships (in the widest sense) to build alliances and friendships which you can draw on. The trouble is Venus is not well placed, being in the sixth. So you will find this hard to accomplish. However it is probably your best way forward.
The Lot of Nemesis shows whar you can't change about such situations - that is situations which are more or less permanent. This Lot lies in Cancer in your twelfth House - the house of secret enemies. There's nothing you can do here. The Lot is ruled by the Moon, which is in Libra with the Lot of Necessity. Your' feminine assertion may mitigate but it's not going to remove all your troubles. It might still leave you with some issues with siblings,but it's worth trying.
The Lots of Spirit and Accusation lie in the ninth House with the Lot of Accusation being conjunct your MC.
ya looks like permanent situation to me i cant be assertive the people here dominate me and control me i have stopped saying anything but they misuse m
The Lot of Accusation is a description of you as am 'exile' being away from home, sometimes metaphorically - describing situations in which you feel on your own without friends or support, sometimes literally, that you are abroad in a foreign land. The lot is in the ninth House, which is aq fortunate house but is associated with overseas travel, as well as higher education and learning. The lot is actually sextiled by Mars, Sun and Mercury from the right, and by Jupiter from the left. So things are not as bad as you think. The only hard aspect is from Venus by square. I can't really tell if that means that you would be better moving to another country, I know you have thought about it. and it's possible that that might be a move to think about, but only for career reasons.
The Lot of Spirit shows what you can do by your own efforts to affect your life. As it to lies in the ninth House, that does throw the issue of moving for career reasons back into the consideration. Spirit has connections with career and social status because it shows the effects of your own efforts, and that tends to be the area where we most influence our lives.
Leaving the country is a dramatic and major decision. You might look at the other meaning of the ninth, higher education and embark on studies which would in time give your career a boost. The MC lies in your ninth whole sign house, so a career which itself is related to education, such as a teacher, might be a way forward.
There's no clear answer here but there are things to think about and maybe take soe action, both in personal behaviour and strategies for dealing with others and for trying to deal with that over which you have no control.
ya you did mention that i have strong 9th house but then you said that i wont win the lottery due to placement of certain planets which obstruct the 9th house from doing well
i wont be actually going abroad i have to be surrounded here from dreadful people and i hate being around such people
they are abusive, use foul language, i am not their type
i want to go to better pasture but cant see a way out
thanks for the reading
it was very helpful
i know it was tough to answer
but you did a good job
Minderwiz
07-02-2013, 05:59
Hi Minderwiz
Given formal news of my redundancy last Friday 1st Feb, and my final day being this Friday 8th Feb, I'm wondering about my chances of getting a new job - preferably within the next month as idle hands and all that! But timing over the next three months is what we discussed :) Also, I am concerned about where this work would be (here in NZ or overseas for example Australia), and the likelihood of my having to take a pay cut.
Hope this makes sense, let's refine down further if this seems a bit unfocused.
Best, Ana.
The chart has Cancer rising so you are signified by the Moon. The Moon is currently in Sagittarius in the sixth House, not the best placement to show an indication that you are going to be noticed in the job market within the next month. Furthermore the Moon is Peregrine, that is without any essential dignity. Usually that is an indication that you really need some help if yu are to achieve your aims. That could be anything from someone helping you to hone your CV to being on the books of an employment agency, or going on a special back to work course. The help could come in many forms but the point is that you will struggle to get into work without it. Jupiter rules the MC and you are in one of Juptier's signs - a clear signal of your desire and need for that new job. There is no exaltation ruler in Sagittarius but the Sun is the Triplicity Lord, and the Sun rules your second House of money and resources. Again the need to have an income is clearly one of your key priorities here. The Moon is in the Terms of Mars and the Face of Saturn, the two malefics. Mars rules the eleventh House of Friends, and hopes, So your hopes are also clearly described by the chart.
Jupiter is placed in Gemini within three degrees of the Twelfth House cusp and so is more associated with that than the eleventh House, whose cusp is two signs away in Aries. The twelfth is associated with loss and struggle, so the job doesn't look like it is particularly well placed, and Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini, though he is in his own Face. The Job, or perhaps more accurately the job market is not good and despite being symbolised by Jupiter, the job is not going to present much, at least in the short term.
At least an aspect between Moon and Jupiter would show some hopes that you might get the job, but the Moon is at the end of Sagittarius and Jupiter is at the beginning of Gemini, so there's no major aspect here.
There's no connection between the Moon and Jupiter by antiscia so we are left with the possible help of a third party (and I've already mentioned that a third party is just what a peregrine planet needs).
The Moon is applying to Mercury in Pisces by sextile. Although the Moon will have to move into Capricorn, the applying aspect is there and Mercury is at 1 degree 24 of Pisces. so the separation is around 4 degrees. If we allow this aspect to count even though the Moon changes signs, and Mercury were to go on and aspect Jupiter, that would show a positive outcome.
Mercury will actually square Jupiter, at 6 degrees Gemini, and that aspect would be with reception, so despite the square, the outcome would be favourable. However before Mercury can square Jupiter it will conjoin Mars at 3 degrees Pisces. So any hopes there would be dashed as this conjunction will prohibit the transfer of light from the Moon to Jupiter via Mercury.
There are ways that I could try and stretch matters to avoid a pessimistic conclusion but they don't really promise much. If I'd used whole sign Houses Mars would rule the thenth and the Mercury Mars conjunction might have offered real hope....if I allow the Moon to cross signs before perfecting the aspect. But Mars too doesn't hold out much hope of a good job, as it's also peregrine. And with the MC being in the ninth whole sign house, it suggests a job abroad. As Leo is in Detriment in Aquarius, the pay will not be good, even then.
Incidentally Mercury rules your Lot of Spirit, the indicator of your ability to influence events and particularly to employment. Mercury is in Detriment in Pisces, so I don't really see you being able to do much at all during the coming month.
In conclusion, I would love to report that a job is just around the corner, but the chart doesn't show that. It shows you needing help and support of some sort. I would thing this would be polishing your CV so it's just what potential employers are looking for, showing off your skills in the best light. You might also need an employment agency or placement agency who can direct your details to potential employers who might be interested.
Put those into train and your situation should improve. Remember this reading is for just one month, so things may well change if you need to ask again.
DevilishAngel
07-02-2013, 12:35
Taking any new questions Minderwiz?
Minderwiz
07-02-2013, 19:25
Yes but give me a three or four days I'm playing catch up with a number of things at the moment, so it will be at least Monday before I get round to answering it. You can post your question though - It will remind me you're in line :)
Minderwiz
09-02-2013, 00:04
Hi M,
I have further feedback to share --- he reached out to me this past Monday. We've going back and forth a bit. I posed the question to him that I would like to have a two way relationship for us and that I wanted him to think about it, if that's something he could do then to let me know. Is there anything in this chart that would indicate which way he'll decide to go in?
Thanks,
Mona
I think the best approach is to cast a new chart for the question you've just asked - essentially, 'Will he choose me? - unless you want to modify the question in any wsy.
I've tried three versions of this horary and this is the only one that makes sense in context - not a usually position for me to find myself in with horary. So I have to preface the reading by saying that I am not at all sure on this one.
The chart I have has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon. The Moon is in Capricorn in the seventh house and conjunct the Descendant. It's clear what you are looking for - him! and you have come to him, as you described in your post. You have put yourself into an extremely vulnerable situation.
Now it's questionable here whether the Moon is Void of Course, as it is in late Capricorn, but it is making an applying aspect to Mercury and Mars, which are partilely conjunct in Pisces at 5 degrees. However as the Moon is your significator, I'm not sure I can write the question off simply through that rather wide, but still within the Moon's orb, application.
Now Saturn is in the fifth House of Romance, ruled by Mars. But the position is only 11 degrees of the sign and Saturn is in no dignity of the Moon. So that seems to indicate that the opportunity has passed and he is not moving (Scorpio is a fixed sign).
There's not really a chance of translation of light here, the Moon's next aspects being to Mercury and Mars but before either of them can trine Saturn they will square Jupiter in Gemini.
So at this point I'm forced to conclude that the desire is all on your part and though he's the object of romance, he's not budging. Not a great conclusion to reach.
I'd leave it there but for something that for want of a better word bugs me. The exaltation planet in Capricorn is Mars, and the Moon is in the Terms of Mars, so at the Moon's location Mars is actually the most dignified planet. And the Moon is applying to Mars by Sextile.
Now that's a far more favourable situation, and Mars rules your Lot of Marriage. The trouble is that once again Mars is not in any dignity of the Moon, which confirms the 'one way' flow of feelings.
So, there is something of a chance that he might show some interest but it's not going to be strong at all, At worst he's not going to really shift his position of self involvement, at least in the short term. Even if I went by Mars, there's a chance he's going to move away (Mars in the ninth) so you might get a 'Now is not the time. but maybe later'.
I just hope I'm wrong but this chart (which is the most promising one of the three that I cast, because it at least described the situation) does not show him having a similar level of desire as you.
I've tried three versions of this horary and this is the only one that makes sense in context - not a usually position for me to find myself in with horary. So I have to preface the reading by saying that I am not at all sure on this one.
The chart I have has Cancer rising, so you are signified by the Moon. The Moon is in Capricorn in the seventh house and conjunct the Descendant. It's clear what you are looking for - him! and you have come to him, as you described in your post. You have put yourself into an extremely vulnerable situation.
Now it's questionable here whether the Moon is Void of Course, as it is in late Capricorn, but it is making an applying aspect to Mercury and Mars, which are partilely conjunct in Pisces at 5 degrees. However as the Moon is your significator, I'm not sure I can write the question off simply through that rather wide, but still within the Moon's orb, application.
Now Saturn is in the fifth House of Romance, ruled by Mars. But the position is only 11 degrees of the sign and Saturn is in no dignity of the Moon. So that seems to indicate that the opportunity has passed and he is not moving (Scorpio is a fixed sign).
There's not really a chance of translation of light here, the Moon's next aspects being to Mercury and Mars but before either of them can trine Saturn they will square Jupiter in Gemini.
So at this point I'm forced to conclude that the desire is all on your part and though he's the object of romance, he's not budging. Not a great conclusion to reach.
I'd leave it there but for something that for want of a better word bugs me. The exaltation planet in Capricorn is Mars, and the Moon is in the Terms of Mars, so at the Moon's location Mars is actually the most dignified planet. And the Moon is applying to Mars by Sextile.
Now that's a far more favourable situation, and Mars rules your Lot of Marriage. The trouble is that once again Mars is not in any dignity of the Moon, which confirms the 'one way' flow of feelings.
So, there is something of a chance that he might show some interest but it's not going to be strong at all, At worst he's not going to really shift his position of self involvement, at least in the short term. Even if I went by Mars, there's a chance he's going to move away (Mars in the ninth) so you might get a 'Now is not the time. but maybe later'.
I just hope I'm wrong but this chart (which is the most promising one of the three that I cast, because it at least described the situation) does not show him having a similar level of desire as you.
Hi M! Thanks so much for the reading ... I wonder why it was hard to cast? And no worries, I did want a more positive reading but I understand it wasn't cooperating.
I placed a phone call to him today, so we'll see what happens. I will let you know.
Thanks so much!
Ana's Song
10-02-2013, 19:26
The chart has Cancer rising so you are signified by the Moon. The Moon is currently in Sagittarius in the sixth House, not the best placement to show an indication that you are going to be noticed in the job market within the next month. Furthermore the Moon is Peregrine, that is without any essential dignity. Usually that is an indication that you really need some help if yu are to achieve your aims. That could be anything from someone helping you to hone your CV to being on the books of an employment agency, or going on a special back to work course. The help could come in many forms but the point is that you will struggle to get into work without it. Jupiter rules the MC and you are in one of Juptier's signs - a clear signal of your desire and need for that new job. There is no exaltation ruler in Sagittarius but the Sun is the Triplicity Lord, and the Sun rules your second House of money and resources. Again the need to have an income is clearly one of your key priorities here. The Moon is in the Terms of Mars and the Face of Saturn, the two malefics. Mars rules the eleventh House of Friends, and hopes, So your hopes are also clearly described by the chart.
Spot on right there with the need to have an income and also a new job. My primary worry (other than the money of course!) is that I will go a bit bonkers with not being able to get up in the morning and have something to do. I've had a couple of days of that already and the panic that sets in is not pleasant!
Jupiter is placed in Gemini within three degrees of the Twelfth House cusp and so is more associated with that than the eleventh House, whose cusp is two signs away in Aries. The twelfth is associated with loss and struggle, so the job doesn't look like it is particularly well placed, and Jupiter is in Detriment in Gemini, though he is in his own Face. The Job, or perhaps more accurately the job market is not good and despite being symbolised by Jupiter, the job is not going to present much, at least in the short term.
At least an aspect between Moon and Jupiter would show some hopes that you might get the job, but the Moon is at the end of Sagittarius and Jupiter is at the beginning of Gemini, so there's no major aspect here.
There's no connection between the Moon and Jupiter by antiscia so we are left with the possible help of a third party (and I've already mentioned that a third party is just what a peregrine planet needs).
The Moon is applying to Mercury in Pisces by sextile. Although the Moon will have to move into Capricorn, the applying aspect is there and Mercury is at 1 degree 24 of Pisces. so the separation is around 4 degrees. If we allow this aspect to count even though the Moon changes signs, and Mercury were to go on and aspect Jupiter, that would show a positive outcome.
Mercury will actually square Jupiter, at 6 degrees Gemini, and that aspect would be with reception, so despite the square, the outcome would be favourable. However before Mercury can square Jupiter it will conjoin Mars at 3 degrees Pisces. So any hopes there would be dashed as this conjunction will prohibit the transfer of light from the Moon to Jupiter via Mercury.
All of this makes me feel like it's so close yet so far :)
There are ways that I could try and stretch matters to avoid a pessimistic conclusion but they don't really promise much. If I'd used whole sign Houses Mars would rule the thenth and the Mercury Mars conjunction might have offered real hope....if I allow the Moon to cross signs before perfecting the aspect. But Mars too doesn't hold out much hope of a good job, as it's also peregrine. And with the MC being in the ninth whole sign house, it suggests a job abroad. As Leo is in Detriment in Aquarius, the pay will not be good, even then.
Incidentally Mercury rules your Lot of Spirit, the indicator of your ability to influence events and particularly to employment. Mercury is in Detriment in Pisces, so I don't really see you being able to do much at all during the coming month.
In conclusion, I would love to report that a job is just around the corner, but the chart doesn't show that. It shows you needing help and support of some sort. I would thing this would be polishing your CV so it's just what potential employers are looking for, showing off your skills in the best light. You might also need an employment agency or placement agency who can direct your details to potential employers who might be interested.
Put those into train and your situation should improve. Remember this reading is for just one month, so things may well change if you need to ask again.
Oddly enough, I seem to have done it again with my questions to you Minderwiz. After you cast this but before you posted on the forum, I have been working what is left of my network and also have been in touch with a few recruiters. I've also passed on my CV to a number of contacts and have catch ups teed up for every single day of the forthcoming week now. I hope this is the help and support you mention. Also, I've gone through my CV and re-polished it up a bit and have had a few people review it, not to mention copious editing for a job that is not in my direct line of experience. Must say I feel rather like a pimp calling up people and asking them for advice and contacts :)
Cross fingers then and things may turn more positive after my stirring the pot a bit more...
Minderwiz
11-02-2013, 09:24
You're doing everything right...so my fingers and toes are crossed for you :)
Ana's Song
13-02-2013, 09:05
You're doing everything right...so my fingers and toes are crossed for you :)
Just an update: I have a phone interview early next week with a company in another country that's been sitting on my application for 2.5 months (we've tried about three or four times unsuccessfully to organise a phone call!). Interestingly, they seem to have pulled in recruiters to help with filling the role - 2.5 months ago they were handling the search in-house. Also, the pay would appear to be good, at least on paper and before taking into account London-esque costs of living :)