View Full Version : Anyone else buying the Tarot of Timeless Truth?
I've pre-ordered the deck and book set, and I'm really impatient for the decks to start shipping, I want it now! :)
I'm not usually into collage-type decks, but this one seems very well thought-out, the correspondences, in general, make a lot of sense, and some of the cards are simply stunning. Can't wait till it gets here!
I just ordered this deck.
I looked at each card online for what must have been a million times, decided I didn't like it, but it kept haunting me, and finally I looked at it one more time and decided I had to have it.
http://tarot.leila.ca/index.htm
Now I've promised myself that this will be the VERY LAST deck I will buy for many months. :rolleyes:
-- Lee
Oh, dear -- in the pre-Internet days, we tarotholics were mercifully unaware of the full range of beautiful decks available. Now here's another one that I will have to have. (I tell myself that each deck costs only the equivalent of a quart of Haagen Dasz, which I can surely live without.)
Edited for a cost-of-living adjustment: make that two quarts (four, if you buy the accompanying books).
dolphinprincess
30-10-2003, 11:16
..... sometimes this site is sooo dangerous! .. everytime i think i've 'got enough for now' i see something else i want... !..
i have mixed feelings about decks that have actual people in them... but i really like the use of animals in the cards... and most of them really are nice... hmmm. we'll see how long i can hold out!
THANKS for the heads-up on this beautiful deck! I just ordered it and am looking forward to playing with it.
Unlike many, I _love_ photographic decks!
I'm also waiting for delivery of the Ferret Tarot.
Asher
fairyhedgehog
30-10-2003, 13:52
Where do you get the Ferret Tarot from?
See the thread "Ferret Tarot Ready" (page 2). Ordering info is there. Very reasonable price, and includes a bag and a LWB!
And it's just so darn _cute_!
Asher
i usally dont' go for photographic tarot ,, (i traded away my vision tarot ,, even though i still got the gendron tarot )
but this one appeals to me. very much
(now i can blame you for once again blowing air to flame up my tarot interests.. nah it is me eheh )
WolfSpirit
30-10-2003, 17:31
Ah so the deck is now published then ! This deck caught my attention when I saw it here at AT, but it was not ready for publication then. It looks lovely and I think it will only be a matter of time before I buy it.
Rusty Neon
30-10-2003, 17:51
Makes me wonder what "timeless truth" the deck creator is attempting to communicate to us. Does anyone know? It doesn't seem it would give us any insights that the RWS doesn't give us.
http://www.aeclectic.net/timeless-truth/
Cocobird55
30-10-2003, 23:00
I just ordered it, too. Next week is my birthday, so the deck is my birthday present from me to me. :-)
Actually, this deck looks too interesting to pass up.
Sue
If you follow the link in Lee's post, it takes you straight to the deck's website. Leila explains exactly why she decided to name her deck Tarot of Timeless Truth in the artist's profile section. I wasn't sure about this deck at first (like dolphinprincess, I don't usually go for decks with actual people in them), but one of the things that really impressed me is how Leila not only put up scans of each card, she also wrote a descriptive narrative for each one. So in terms of insight and getting into the artist's head, she made it exceptionally easy.
There are a few cards I would change, because of course no deck will ever be completely perfect for me (unless I create it, and maybe not even then) but after reading each card's little narrative, I found myself agreeing with almost everything she wrote. So, if I'm already in sync with Leila's mindset, then I have a very good feeling about the deck. Plus, the cards are so evocotive, and the Princess of Cups and the Aces are just gorgeous!
fairyhedgehog
31-10-2003, 03:58
Originally posted by Asher
See the thread "Ferret Tarot Ready" (page 2).
Thanks, Asher! It really is as cute as you say it is :)
Requiella
02-11-2003, 18:45
What strikes me as ironic about this deck is that a deck featuring photos of real people has "timeless" in its name...! I'm sure the author has good reasons for the name (I haven't seen her website yet), but it just struck me as amusing.
I'm not really one for decks with real people. But, I think that the moon card is very cool--drawing on the Maiden, Mother, and Crone concept.
Has anyone else pre-ordered this deck? It was supposed to have shipped by now but there were some printing problems and the release date had to be pushed back a few weeks. I am so looking forward to getting it! What's great about her site is that if you click on each card, it brings up a large, very high-resolution scan of the card, so you can really see the details.
I also bought and have been using her set of scans for use with the Orphalese software. It does seem to work very well, but I still need to look at the cards in person to know whether it will take its place in my top three reading decks.
-- Lee
Voodoo_Shaman
23-11-2003, 12:51
Nice deck.. But does not do it for me. I am not to fond of these Computer Generated Decks. Give me old fashion art any day.
dolphingirl
23-11-2003, 19:05
I am not normally fond of computer done decks either but I do love the majors for this deck and hey it has dolphins in it so it is on my wish list. Now if Santa just thinks I have been a good girl this year I will have it made! lol
Lightbringer
13-12-2003, 15:39
I've ordered it too and I'm impatient for it to arrive.
I'm aware there were some setbacks concerning the printing but it seems things are on wheels now.
I'm curious about something: What size are the cards? I searched Leila's site for this information but didn't manage to find it. Will they be the same size or approximate as when you click the card and a big card shows?
The descriptions which acompany the cards on the website they are so well written!
I, too, don't like at first sight decks with real people on it. Nevertheless this one is gorgeous and so rich in its elements. I love the associations between the major arcana with semi-precious stones, as I am myself a collector and appreciator of semi-precious stones.
They just sent me an e-mail stating the desk will ship on Wednesday Dec. 17. I hope it gets here by Christmas!
Usually I prefer decks that are drawn or painted, not photographic. But there was something about this one I liked.
dolphinprincess
15-12-2003, 12:38
For those that pre-ordered this deck.. Did you get the set with the book.. or did you just order the deck?... (in other words, does the book seem necessary.)
thanks..
galadrial
15-12-2003, 12:40
Thanks becky! I preordered it a couple of weeks ago and it's nice to have a date to look forward to for it to ship.
I almost bought this deck, but two cards stopped me...I didn't care for the 10 cups and the 4 wands...I'm anxious to hear all of your comments after you have had time to use this deck for a while...maybe then you can give me some insight on my concern and I may be convinced to overcome my issue with these cards...I don't have issues with photographs or computer generated so those things didn't bother me with the deck at all...I thought in general, it is a very beautiful deck.
Cocobird55
15-12-2003, 13:04
I ordered the set. Whenever there is a book available, I always order it because ... it could help me understand the deck, and because I like books.
Sue
I have to have the deck! Most of the cards seem to be gorgous and I love the fact that there are so many animals in it. A deck with lots of animals just cannot be wrong for me. But can anyone tell me if I can order it from a European store too or just from the artist's site? So far I haven't found anything about this deck at amazon or alida.
Originally posted by yve
I almost bought this deck, but two cards stopped me...I didn't care for the 10 cups and the 4 wands...Hi yve, I'm just curious, what don't you like about these cards? I agree that some of the Minors cards are better than others, but these two seem fine to me.
-- Lee
I ordered the book, too. It seems whenever I get just the deck by itself, I end up ordering the companion book later. So now I always get them together if possible.
dolphinprincess
16-12-2003, 10:56
I ordered the set... :o) I am not usually a fan of real people in decks.. but these cards were an exception. What really sold me (as mentioned above by Darla).. were the animals. The deck is full of animals (especially dolphins).. and that really spoke to me.. .Looking forward to seeing the cards in person.
Originally posted by Darla
I have to have the deck! Most of the cards seem to be gorgous and I love the fact that there are so many animals in it. A deck with lots of animals just cannot be wrong for me. But can anyone tell me if I can order it from a European store too or just from the artist's site? So far I haven't found anything about this deck at amazon or alida.
It isn't a difficulty with minors so to speak...but the 10 of cups makes me feel like I'm looking into someone's personal family photo album...to personal for me, I didn't feel comfortable with it... and the 4 of wands, I just don't seem to get the feeling that it represents what the 4 of wands is suppose to say...if it was only the 4 of wands, I could have overlooked that, but the 10 of cups seemed just a little too personal to me...but it is only my opinion, and i'm not trying to minimize everyone else's attraction to this deck...
Thanks, yve. I think that's a good point.
-- Lee
Like I *needed* someplace besides Ebay to fuel my addiction!
You guys just....rock. :c)
OK, well. Yes, I've been on the forum five whole minutes (I originally signed up in 2001, but took a hiatus until *ONE* of you who shall remain unnamed lured me back into the fold) and have already bought this deck/book set. Please send your addresses, so I can have the bill sent to the appropriate people (well, it *is* your fault! Take some responsibility here). <g>
I like all types of decks..photographic, collage, line drawings. Bottom line is, I've never found a single deck which had 78 cards I loved. Unless it's Your Baby, there's going to be some cards that just don't work for you. My experience has been that it's never the same cards, either! Go figure.
purplelady
18-12-2003, 18:59
This is the first time I've seen or heard of this deck, and it is tempting me very much! I also always order the book when possible, because I just like books, and it just feels more complete to have a set, and it helps to hear the authors take on the cards. Sigh! I just ordered 6 decks a few weeks ago and just recieved them. Why do you do this to me?!!
A hopeless tarotholic
Don't hold your breath for this one, friends...I just got an email from the creator, saying that shipping from Canada to the USA (Southwest) is estimated at 4-6 _weeks_!! Apparently the decks were due to be shipped yesterday, but I could drive to Canada and buy it in less time.
Oh well...
Asher
purplelady
18-12-2003, 21:39
Asher,
I think you SHOULD drive to Canada, and while you are there pick up a tarot set for each one of us. :joke: . Truthfully, ordering from anywhere outside of the US makes me very nervous.
Cocobird55
18-12-2003, 23:00
I got the same e-mail. I'm still looking forward to getting the deck. :-)
Since joining Aeclectic, I've ordered a couple of things from outside the U.S., and it hasn't been a problem at all. The Tarot of Prague and Major Tom's 2004 tarot calendar both arrived without a hitch.
Sue
I also have had great success with ordering decks and things from outside the US. Tarot of Prague, for example, and several orders from Alida (_1 week_ from Italy to the US!)
Also from Amazon.uk and Amazon.fr (haven't gotten the courage to try Amazon.de yet -- German intimidates me!)
I too am looking forward to this deck, but I wish we had been forewarned about the "pony express" shipping...sigh.
Asher
Cerulean
20-12-2003, 15:12
I'm glad to have seen all the cards.
The use of family and friends for models must have been an ambitious project. I got the impression of Vision Tarot plus Sacred Circle combined with a lovely family tarot theatre. Everyone seems to be very into the spirit of the scene. It is a charming idea and her personal statement--what she views as timeless. I bet her family and friends who posed for the photos have been delighted, as well. Some of the elfish, bearded and bewigged children are delightful. I guess I got distracted that some of the same adult models appeared in different cards--photographs of people can do that do that to me.
I think in the same way people can get distracted by anime illustrations that seems to much the same to them or the hair and eye colors do not agree with their concepts of what works for them.
I am glad you posted the link so I could see why I didn't want this beautiful deck. It's a different perspective than mine.
Since a year or two ago, I've been less interested in modern photomontage and glossy modern shades. I like historical cities and images, oddly, they seem more timeless and neutral to me. When I see photomontage of 100 to 600 year old European paintings, it seems ageless in my eyes. The small details of the artist painting or image meaning that I discover seem to be my own treasure to be taken and appreciated.
I'm looking at why I really liked my photomontage Lovers Tarot, Prague and Tarot de Paris--what makes them different to me.
Best wishes,
Mari H.
I got it!!! :D:D:D
The deck is printed on good cardstock, and the coating on the cards is very nice. The cutting of the card edges isn't quite as smooth and perfect as USGames or Llewellyn decks.
I'm happy to report that, although the cards look quite nice online, they look much better in person. There's lots of little details that you just can't see online. The deck comes in a box (no shrinkwrap around the cards) with an 8-1/2 by 11 sheet with short meanings and instructions for downloading the ebook, if you bought the special offer which included the ebook.
The ebook is 251 pages long! However, unfortunately it doesn't fit on a 3-1/2" floppy disk, so I can't archive it, and I'm reluctant to print out 251 pages, and it makes me nervous that it's sitting on my hard drive with no backup.
I'll look forward to working with the deck and reading the book.
-- Lee
Edited to add: there is a slight problem with paper dust which got on the cards before the coating was put on, so that the white dust can't be wiped off. I noticed the same problem as well on the self-published Healing Tarot.
Cocobird55
29-12-2003, 16:33
Hooray! Hopefully, mine will come soon. :-)
I work at home sometimes, and use the following process to make backups of large files.
I e-mail them to myself at work. Then I don't erase the sent document until I have backed it up to my hard drive and the LAN at work.
You can keep the file in your sent mail indefinitely. Or, if you have another e-mail address, like Yahoo (which is free and easy to get), sent it to that e-mail address and keep it there. Or do both. I'm fanatical about backing things up, and my Mac didn't come with a floppy drive, so I use this process quite often.
Sue
Cocobird55
29-12-2003, 22:05
Mine came today! It is a lovely deck. The cards are quite thick.
It reminds me a little of the Mountain Dream deck, because both decks have real people dressed in costumes. The book seems quite good, too. It is spiral-bound.
Sue
galadrial
30-12-2003, 10:41
I got my deck last night, and have just sat down with it this morning and did a 3 card spread: 1. What will this deck teach me?, 2. What does this deck require of me, and 3. What will our relationship be like? It's certainly the most firey response I've gotten from a deck- I think I'm going to like using it!:
1. Six of Wands
2. Magician
3. Queen of Wands (who is beckoning with her hand in a "come on, let's go!" manner. I find her enthusiasm contagious:-)
EarthAngel2911
30-12-2003, 12:12
I have been using the Tarot of Timeless Truth with my Orphalese Tarot software for a while now, and I have always loved the Majors. But I was never very hip on the Minors. I have never really cared for decks that use photographs of real people.
But when my deck came in the mail (after brushing the dust off each and every card!), I held it in my hands and looked through every card and bonded right away. And surprising, I like the Minors even more than the Majors! Maybe it was because I wasn't too excited about the minors so I wasn't expecting much... or maybe it was because this deck is so much more wonderful and vibrant in person, but I absolutely love this deck!!
I recently treated myself to the Gilded Tarot for Christmas, and no doubt this deck is absolutely stunning and worth every penny, there is just something about Timeless Truth that makes me want to hold it, shuffle it, use it, bond with it....
I know all I'm giving you is my personal opinion, but I am certainly NOT disappointed with my new deck!!! :)
Blessings,
Karen
Originally posted by EarthAngel2911
I know all I'm giving you is my personal opinion, but I am certainly NOT disappointed with my new deck!!! :)Don't worry, Karen, we love personal opinions! :)
-- Lee
My copy arrived today (4-6 weeks -- bah!), along with a package from Alida...but I digress.
I do like this deck, having only glanced at it briefly to make sure all the cards were there.
I had very little "dusting" to do...whew!
It does look so much better in person than the scans on the site. My only wish is that the deck were a bit bigger, so these old eyes could see all the beautiful detail without too much squinting...smile.
Off to play with my new decks all afternoon! Who could ask for more? :D
Asher
Added: I just downloaded the ebook and am printing it out. The introductory information is nothing new, but I do like the section of the Majors that I am reading now. Instead of simply telling the reader what each card means (there is some of that), the author has a couple of sections which invite the reader to think about certain aspects of each card--colors, specifix images, card borders, etc., in order to help the _reader_ determine what the card means. It's almost like a workbook in format.
dolphinprincess
02-01-2004, 22:36
oh, i just can't make up my mind about this deck.... ! i ordered it bc i loved the use of animals in the deck.. and i still do.. there are so many cool pictures of different animals used..
but i am just not fond of real people in decks. i though i could get past that with this one (after looking at the scans on her site half a zillion times...)... but now that i have the deck, i'm just not sure.
it feels like i'm looking at someone's family in the deck - which in fact is what i am doing... which makes it a bit difficult to bond to the cards... bc i have no 'relationship' with these people.. yet they are 'real'.. not sure if that makes sense.
the book is excellent.. but the jury is still out on the cards for me.
why does there always have to be SOMETHING that makes a deck not perfect... ?????
BlueLotus
02-01-2004, 23:35
I am very happy for those who received or will receive their deck and/or book sets.
I just wish that this deck/book set could be sent 'overseas' via insured, (registered) mail, at a price I can afford.
I guess I will just have to wait for it to be released at Amazons', hopefully soon.
Lightbringer
03-01-2004, 12:19
Hi! I've also ordered the Tarot of Timelless Truth and am impatient for it to arrive. It seems that for me it'll actually take 4-6 weeks (hopefully not)-(Kidding :D)
To those of you who have already received it, I'd like to ask the size of the cards. I'm so curious.
Thank you!:)
galadrial
03-01-2004, 20:53
Hi Lightbringer (nice name BTW),
the cards are 3" X 4 3/5" . Hope you don't have to wait too long:-)
Lightbringer
05-01-2004, 05:32
Thank you so much!
I guess that those measures in centimeters would be around 7,5 cm by 12,7 cm. I'm more used to deal with centimeters.
...Concerning my name I guess it is the other way around: You in the forum bring me "light" in matters of tarot rather than I actually do (newbie). I hope one day to bring some light of my own...:)
dolphinprincess
05-01-2004, 08:04
Originally posted by dolphinprincess
oh, i just can't make up my mind about this deck.... ! i ordered it bc i loved the use of animals in the deck.. and i still do.. there are so many cool pictures of different animals used..
but i am just not fond of real people in decks. i though i could get past that with this one (after looking at the scans on her site half a zillion times...)... but now that i have the deck, i'm just not sure.
it feels like i'm looking at someone's family in the deck - which in fact is what i am doing... which makes it a bit difficult to bond to the cards... bc i have no 'relationship' with these people.. yet they are 'real'.. not sure if that makes sense.
the book is excellent.. but the jury is still out on the cards for me.
why does there always have to be SOMETHING that makes a deck not perfect... ?????
Well, I've started using the deck in readings - and I think I just may get past my feelings toward the real people. The cards are just filled with symbolism and I find them very easy to read and relate to...
And, again, I really like the book!!!
galadrial
05-01-2004, 21:57
Hi again Lightbringer,
I went to a nifty internet site that converts inches to centimeters and got 7.62cm x 11.68cm.
BlueLotus
20-01-2004, 08:41
So, how is everyone enjoying their new deck?
Is it what you really wanted, and waited for ? I may decide to order it afterall, because they are shipping it via insured mail, I heard.
If you own the Sacred Circle Tarot would you say that this one ( TTT ) is more user friendly ?
Any other comments will be appreciated.
Happy Readings everyone.
Lady Eclipse
20-01-2004, 21:10
Hi,
Yes, I plan on purchasing the deck and book set ASAP. I absolutely LOVE decks like this! I think it is beautiful but it's going to have to wait until next month when my tarot budget will allow me to purchase the next line of cards on my wish list. :-(
Joy to you,
Maralee
EarthAngel2911
20-01-2004, 21:19
Feebie,
I've been using this deck for my daily draws this month, and the more I use it, the more I love it! I have never been too hip on actual peoples' photographs in tarot decks, but somehow this one works for me.
And I think the book is excellent! True, I have it on computer, but you can print it out if you choose, if reading on the computer bothers your eyes, or is inconvenient.
If you have thought about purchasing this deck at all, I highly recommend it!
I really can't compare it to the Sacred Circle. The SC has reordered its Majors, and the Minors are basically pips. The Tarot of Timeless Truth follows much more closely to the RWS standard and can be read right out of the box, if you're familiar with the RWS.
Let me know what you think when you get it!! ;)
Blessings,
Karen
starsongs
28-01-2004, 00:24
I've just ordered the Tarot of Timeless Truth. After visiting Leila Vey's homepage, I was hooked.
Like many of you have also said, I'm not usually a fan of photographic decks or ones that have images of real people. I do like the animal correspondences, and for me they often make a deck much easier to read.
These cards seem very Special, however, and after listening to each one 'speak' courtesy of the authors beautiful writings, they are now on their way, book and deck set....
I enjoyed reading all of your impressions of the deck..Thanx..:-)
starsongs
inanna_tarot
02-02-2004, 07:37
Hmm i like this deck, every time i look at it i like it more! but i'm still not sure as like many i'm unsure on photo decks.
Next month when i've got more money i'm getting the Sacred Circle, which i've been wanting for awhile now. If i can get along with the photos in that, then i might purchase it.
Another worry is buying it straight from the artist, as i dont have a mastercard etc of my own (because i cant trust myself!) i'd have to buy it on my mums, and well, i dont want my mum's first purchase online to be a rough ride! I might wait till it because available by a European company, or amazon.co.uk.
Ahh the worries of a British girlie lol
Sezo
x
Lightbringer
13-02-2004, 05:01
My Tarot of Timeless Truth arrived yesterday. I was getting a bit desperate as I thought it had been lost. It just took a big longer to arrive - about 8 weeks.
Well, nevertheless, I was very pleased with the deck. The images are very captivating as previewd in Leila Vey's site and the ebook is very comprehensive.
I'm delighted!:)
Cocobird55
13-02-2004, 21:57
This deck is my current favorite. I love the pictures, and even more, I love the book.
The book has questions for you to think about, and other questions to see how you interpret the deck. The book then explains what the symbols mean to the creator. It is totally cool. I'm going through it card by card, and liking it better and better.
Sue
starsongs
14-02-2004, 00:24
Cocobird55 and Lightbringer,
I'm also incredibly pleased with the Tarot of Timeless Truth and the accompanying book. Its quickly becoming a favorite. I'm at a loss to adequately express in words how magical this deck is to work with...and love the comprehensive and insightful writings that add to the Special energy...
lovin it that you are loving them too...:-)
Blessings,
starsongs
Summerdream
19-02-2004, 18:52
I'm thinking of ordering the deck/book set but was curious about the shipping options. Those of you that ordered it and live in the states, did you order surface, expedited parcel post or express post and how long did it take to receive it?
Momof3girls:)
starsongs
19-02-2004, 19:04
Originally posted by Momof3girls
I'm thinking of ordering the deck/book set but was curious about the shipping options. Those of you that ordered it and live in the states, did you order surface, expedited parcel post or express post and how long did it take to receive it?
Momof3girls:)
Momof3girls,
My order was for surface mail...and it arrived much more quicly than was estimated...The cards/book arrived in about a week...
starsongs
Summerdream
24-02-2004, 09:30
Originally posted by starsongs
Momof3girls,
My order was for surface mail...and it arrived much more quicly than was estimated...The cards/book arrived in about a week...
starsongs
Hi Starsongs!
I ordered by expedited post. I don't know how much quicker it is supposed to be but I was quoted as 1 week delivery.
Momof3girls:)
starsongs
24-02-2004, 11:48
Hi Momof3girls..:-)
Thats terrific! :-)..Bet you're excited. Hope you enjoy the deck and book...I've enjoyed this deck more than any for quite some time! It's really speaking...
take care
starsongs
Summerdream
28-02-2004, 15:56
Hello!
I just received the Tarot of Timeless Truth in the mail today. Wow! I love it. It's so much better in person than on the web. I'm anxious to start using it and reading the book.
Momof3girls:)
Cocobird55
28-02-2004, 17:07
The set has become my favorite. I like the deck a lot, but it's the book that stands out for me. I feel like it makes the tarot so more accessible, and I can easily apply some of the ideas to my own life.
Sue
BlueLotus
22-05-2004, 23:40
Originally posted by EarthAngel2911
Feebie,
I really can't compare it to the Sacred Circle. The SC has reordered its Majors, and the Minors are basically pips. The Tarot of Timeless Truth follows much more closely to the RWS standard and can be read right out of the box, if you're familiar with the RWS
I have just ordered this deck/book set, after taking a long leisurely ride through Leila's site, and others on the internet.
Although some people may compare it with SC tarot, I think this one stands better for me since it follows closely with RWS standard, which was one of my concerns with SC tarot.
I would like to know what everyone still thinks of this deck after they have been using it for a while. Does anyone use it as their main reading deck?
Cocobird55
23-05-2004, 01:14
I've been using it as my main deck for a couple of months. I am learning a lot, and getting good information from the deck. Definitely one of my favorites.
The books is good, too. It's written in a way that makes sense to me. It makes me think about what the cards mean, before I look at the actual description.
Let us know how you like it.
Sue
Lightbringer
23-05-2004, 05:07
It's also my my main deck since I acquired it. The images are so expressive and rich in details and I think that my intuition has been developing since I started to use it. I get a lot of information by just looking at the pictures. Believe me: readings for me and for other peolpe come out right, i.e. make sense. The feedback I get after readings done with this deck is very positive.
As for the book I also love it. It is so well written, I guess the author Leila Vey has a natural talent with words.
It's a great deck: one of the most expressive and intuitive decks to work with. :)
starsongs
23-05-2004, 05:16
I agree with Lightbringer and Cocobird. This is a wonderful deck and book set and one I use frequently (along with a few others).
starsongs
WolfSpirit
20-06-2004, 17:07
This deck has been on my wish list for some time. Last week I revisited the site to have another look at it and did an online reading. This reading made so much sense to me and just LOOKED so clear, that it made me very eager.
As I live in Europe and don't want to spend a fortune on shipping, I will have to order soon if I want to get the deck before I go on holiday.
So I read through this whole thread, and am now really convinced again I need this deck, and the book too !
Lightbringer
20-06-2004, 17:43
Wolfspirit, I also live in Europe and I found that the shipping was relatively cheap. My currency is the euro and the Canadian dollars when converted to euros benefited me. Of course I chose the surface mail, because the other one is much more expensive.
As for the deck and the book, I just love them. The deck is my main reading deck. It is so insightful. Many times I am so astonished by its clear messages.
Hope you decide yourself soon: the deck took eight weeks to arrive (surface mail).
Lightbringer
After viewing the cards I found them so impelling that I had to order a deck! She has a wonderful website! After following the thread I really became excited by these cards!--Tao
Just wanted to add that the Empress card is gorgeous and mystical!--Tao
WolfSpirit
21-06-2004, 13:31
I just ordered the deck and book :D
If it takes 8 weeks to get here, better not wait too long to order.
I agree, lightbringer: shipping is not that expensive and it is insured as well. I find the deck relatively cheap as well, it is the Canadian $ that makes it look like more - it is not too bad when you convert to euros.
Ouf, hope I can wait that long...
dolphingirl
21-06-2004, 16:01
I got this deck for Christmas and I haven't had much chance to use it yet but I really like it. I also got the book and need to find some time to sit down and read it. Does anyone have the book on cd? If so do you use it and like it?
shipping out of Canada can take several weeks! --Tao
BlueLotus
22-06-2004, 00:10
Originally posted by WolfSpirit
I just ordered the deck and book :D
If it takes 8 weeks to get here, better not wait too long to order.
I agree, lightbringer: shipping is not that expensive and it is insured as well. I find the deck relatively cheap as well, it is the Canadian $ that makes it look like more - it is not too bad when you convert to euros.
Ouf, hope I can wait that long...
WolfSpirit, you could have ordered the e-book instead.
It is cheaper and faster, unless of course you want to own the book.
I had a great time scrolling through the e book before I received my deck, within a week, from Canada.
WolfSpirit
22-06-2004, 03:05
I know, but I just love old-fashioned books !!
Also, my pc has just recovered from a big breakdown - it took the supplier ages to get spare parts. So I try not to rely on the computer all the time (although I still do a lot, I am afraid...)
I like the feel of a book. Scrolling to a particular page is time consuming. Also, it is difficult to read an e-book during a storm.--Tao
it takes to receive it should add to its value! Patience is not a virtue to a Tarotholic!--Tao
WolfSpirit
24-06-2004, 03:24
I got a mail the book is out of stock but can probably be shipped on the 25th. *shrugs shoulders* what is a few more days if it may take 6 weeks (don't even want to think 8 weeks !) anyway ?
Looks like more is added to the value ;)
I am happy that it is shipped first business day. Too bad the mails are so slow! At least mine is 2-3 weeks. I do not even want to think about 8 weeks!!!!--Tao
I went to the post office and there they were! I had them in 6 days! The cards are gorgeous! You can feel the magic of the cards. The Empress card is dazzling. The Aces clearly show the suits' elements. The traditional symbols are maintained. An interesting card ins "Hanged One"--it is a fetus. The beautiful backgrounds enhance the meanings of the cards. I just sat studying the sequences before doing my first shuffle. I did my first spread. My question was a usual question that I ask when spreading a new deck. This question helps to create the kinship between the cards and me. The cards began to connect. The collage of images gleam with their communication. The cards appeal to the intuition without effort. I can easily see these becoming a valuable part of my collection.--Tao
WolfSpirit
26-06-2004, 11:26
Oh, you got them so quickly !
The Ancestral Path also has a foetus for the Hanged One.
Please keep us informed how you and your new deck get along !
I got a mail from leila, the deck was shipped yesterday and it will take approx. 20 business days to arrive. I hope that's right and it will not be 8 weeks for me. There are more decks I want, but this is one I expect to use for readings (many decks are just for the artwork or studying)
it is one of my valued decks.--Tao
but you must plan ahead because it can take long to ship. The wait well worth it since the cards are high quality. There is a magical air about them.--Tao
inanna_tarot
03-04-2005, 15:56
Greetings everyone,
I was just wondering how everyone was finding their Timeless Truth decks? Are they still on the top of your tarot pile? Or did something else cross your path since then?
I only ask as I came across the creator's site the other day and remember the hype about the deck, bit similiar to the Druidcraft at the mo ;)
Blessings,
Sezo
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Lightbringer
04-04-2005, 05:29
Yes, the Timeless Truth Tarot is still at the top of my preferences. It still remains the deck I feel is able to convey the most accurate imessages. I feel very comfortable with it. Perhaps it is me...:)
WolfSpirit
04-04-2005, 06:50
I find the majors still very beautiful. And I love the court cards - I love it that they all have a totem animal by their side.
But I have a problem with a few of the minors. It is a photographic deck with real people, and I find in some of the cards it is as if the people are just trying to act too hard, it is like watching amateur theatre. Paintings of these cards just look more subtle somehow.
So - although I have nothing against photographic decks in general, this is for me one of its drawbacks.
In general I still love this deck though. It is also a deck without nudity, which can be an advantage when reading for some people.
Cocobird55
04-04-2005, 12:35
This is still my favorite reading deck.
Sue
starsongs
04-04-2005, 12:41
I still love this deck too. There is something very special about it that is hard to put into words...:)
starsongs
I think this is an attractive deck, but I can't seem to use it to read, it just doesn't click with me. The Druidcraft, on the other hand, is also a beautiful deck, and I have done several readings with it. It feels comfortable to me and is now my deck of choice (along with The Lover's Tarot for some relationship readings).
anyone else bothered by obviously very fake beards on some characters (kings, majors males etc.)
this is THE thing i hate about this deck. a pity really. would like to hear your opinions... thanks in advance!
kissa
Cocobird55
16-07-2005, 14:12
Deck's are such personal things ... not every deck will appeal to everyone.
I have other decks with art work that I think it more beautiful, but they don't work for me nearly as well.
This is the first (and only) deck I am able to read from without even looking at the book. Clearly, the deck and I are on the same cosmic
wavelength. -:)
Sue
WolfSpirit
16-07-2005, 14:42
I still love the Timeless Truth and there are cards in this deck that appeal to me very much - but yes, those very fake beards do bother me ! And also the over-acting of some of the models.
I know what you mean about personal decks, Cocobird ~ but for me that is the Druidcraft. I know people have issues with the DC, but nothing can spoil this deck for me, nothing ! :D
FaintlyMacabre
16-07-2005, 22:48
LOL - Yes, those fake beards are absolutely awful! I still use it once in awhile though - it seems kind of 'comfy' to me and I enjoy the book.
Diana
This deck is such a mixed bag to me! I think the only reason it is still in my collection is that the cards in the deck that work for me REALLY work. For instance, generally, I find I like the artist's interpretation of the Aces. (I also like the Tarot of Timeless Truth book.)
Aces notwithstanding, I think I would have liked (or maybe I should say used?) this deck more if it had been limited to a Majors only deck. Of the Majors, a few of my favorites include The Moon, The Hanged One, The Sun and The Death card.
I truly love most, if not all, of Leila Vey's ideas. It is her execution of the fine and insightful ideas she brings to the deck's photo collages that fall short in my eyes. Without belaboring the point, those already mentioned beards are an example of what I mean!
Despite the conceptual promise of this deck, it's shortcomings are such that I have not been able to read with the deck. I really hope that if the Tarot of Timeless Truth is ever reprinted, Ms Vey is able to fine tune some of the deck's images first.
I don't have the deck yet but I have been having an eye on it ever since it came out. It's just very costly to have it shipped from Canada to Europe. My sister wanted to give it to me as a gift last Christmas but she said it was too expensive. But I want to have it someday. Does anyone have experiences with shipment of this deck from Canada to Europe? How long does it take?
I can see what people mean by things like fake beards or overacting. I saw this online already but decided that for me the good stuff overweighs the bad stuff. I love the take on many of the cards, the many animals and the texts that are presented alongside each card on her website. Overall, I think despite its flaws this deck would work really well for me. I certainly learned one thing soon after joining aeclectic, there is no perfect tarot deck! :)
WolfSpirit
19-07-2005, 06:27
Darla I am in the Netherlands and it took about four long weeks before I could hold the deck in my hands.
I think there must be faster shipping options but the website did not offer them. I can't remember how much it cost; I thought it was not too expensive. I think the website is in Canadian dollars which is less than the American dollar.
This was my experience, but it was a year ago; maybe she has changed shipping options and it is now more expensive but faster.
Lightbringer
19-07-2005, 06:54
Hi! I live in Portugal and I bought this deck last year in February. It took about 8 weeks to arrive. The estimated time was 2 to 4 weeks but there seemed to be a delay. I thought it wasn't too expensive if compared with the prices practised in Portugal concerning tarot decks.
All the best!
I just ran across this thread tonight and decided to add a message even though it is an old thread.
I received my Tarot of Timeless Truth a couple of weeks ago - ordered it after having a wonderful, free on-line reading with it that came true! I fell in love with the look of the cards, they really spoke to me even though some of them are funny with the fake beards and things.
Anyway, it has become my favorite deck! The readings are so insightful and poignant and true. The book is wonderful, some of the best explanations of the cards I've ever read.
It is such an easy to read deck, so down to earth yet so mystical in the way it seems to know exactly what is going on in my life. If I had to chose only one deck from my collection this would be the one.
WolfSpirit
02-09-2006, 11:21
Thanks for reviving this thread Sammie it made me pick up the Timeless Truth again and it looks like it was just what I needed today :)
It is not my main reading deck but it is always waiting patiently in my tarot chest until the inevitable moment comes I want to use it again. Although not artistically perfect, I ver much love the overall feeling of the deck, and especially the animals on the court cards.
I also decided to get it after doing an on-line reading with this deck.
Cocobird55
02-09-2006, 11:21
I'm glad you are enjoying it, Sammie. It is one of my favorite reading decks, too. And the book is very insightful. I like the way it asks questions and makes me think.
Lhundrup
17-10-2006, 15:35
Just recieved this deck myself and I love it. It has some kind of deep archetypal quality. I don't like the fool because I love the walking of the cliff whilst gazing into the sky symbolism and I don't like the Lovers - because there aren't any! but it prays on my mind this deck and that can only be a good thing for the Tarot
Just recieved this deck myself and I love it. It has some kind of deep archetypal quality. I don't like the fool because I love the walking of the cliff whilst gazing into the sky symbolism and I don't like the Lovers - because there aren't any! but it prays on my mind this deck and that can only be a good thing for the Tarot
This is still staying up there as my favorite deck. It really speaks to me. Lots of other decks are prettier and slicker but this one really seems to me to be so "genuine" or something. The book is so nice, too.
Lhundrup
18-11-2006, 12:20
actually i am having trouble with the minors in this deck.I can't make head or tail of her interpretations with regards the numerology and the suites. Anybody else find this, how do you get around it?
I get around it by ignoring it.
For almost all decks, the cards adapt to me and vice versa. Eventually, I may be able to incorporate all the symbology, or make up my own interpretation.
Cocobird55
18-11-2006, 16:17
I ignore it, too. Even after all this time, in some ways I still feel like a newbie, and I pretty much ignore all that kind of stuff.
Lhundrup
19-11-2006, 09:22
For me it's a little strange because i used to read ordinary playing cards and would explain to the querents about the combinations and why they mean this or that. I'd love to read an explanation by Leila Vey as to why she came up with those interpretations.
WolfSpirit
19-11-2006, 12:11
Lhundrup Leila Vey has written a book to go with the deck. I think it is quite well written and well worth it, although it takes a while to get to Europe from Canada.
I think the Tarot of Timeless Truth in general follows the Rider-Waite a lot, a deck many people are familiar with - but if you are used to reading with playing cards,it will be quite a change for you.
princessofpelaw
19-11-2006, 12:37
Id never heard of this deck until I came across this thread, ive looked at it and now want it lol glad christmas is coming :)
Mellifluous
11-05-2007, 14:50
I recently got this and I don't have a problem with the deck (haven't even had time to use it yet; although my first impression was the cards look much better larger, as they appear on the web site), but I was disappointed by the state in which it arrived. I don't believe it was new. Either that or it was not compiled for packaging in a professional way.
I'm not convinced all the "dust" is from cardstock. There was a spot of coffee or some other beverage I had to spit-shine off two cards. There was a strand of hair in the midst of them. There was also a strand of cat or dog hair in the midst of them. (I'm leaning towards dog hair.) The box was not shrink wrapped but had scotch tape on either end. I appreciate the effort to keep the box closed during shipping, but I think it should have been placed in a bag or wrapped in something else first. Fortunately, I was able to remove the tape with no damage or residue remaining on the box.
Just disappointing over all. Aside from the above, the cards do look new, if that makes any sense. Perhaps someone else had returned it, but I got the feeling it was a copy that had been lying around someone's office (out of its box, obviously) for a while.
I'm trying not to let it cloud my liking for the deck itself. I've really been looking forward to getting it and especially to perusing the book. I love her site and agree with her interpretations (the ones I've read, which is most of them) as posted there.
Mellifluous,
I also have this deck (and book), but mine didn't arrive in the shape yours did! Why don't you try emailing the artist and ask her about it? Most artists who independently publish their own decks do their best to right any wrongs, or at least that's been my experience.
Bodhran
Mellifluous,
I also have this deck (and book), but mine didn't arrive in the shape yours did! Why don't you try emailing the artist and ask her about it? Most artists who independently publish their own decks do their best to right any wrongs, or at least that's been my experience.
Bodhran
I agree!
Though I no longer own the deck, my Tarot of Timeless Truth arrived in pristine condition. It was packed well and clearly brand, spanking new, though, if memory serves, the box may very well have been taped on its ends. I think you may be on to something in thinking your deck could have been sold, returned, and then resold to you.
One thing is for sure, new decks ought to arrive in better shape than what yours did!
weaver
Mellifluous
11-05-2007, 22:44
Why don't you try emailing the artist and ask her about it?
Mainly because due to the shipping time and the expense (and the fact that I like the deck and it's in good shape aside from what I mentioned), I'm not going to return it or demand a new one. It's usable. It's not completely ragged, you know? lol Just in need of serious dusting - and cleaning in the case of those two cards. And the packaging annoyed and disappointed me.
It arrived though. I can and will use it. The book is fine and looks new. I don't imagine any partial refund or anything would even be given. There just really isn't anything for her to do about it now.
Also, I think people generally know what they are doing the first time around and complaining after the fact doesn't really accomplish anything. (For example, taping the box seems to be their standard?)
If I wanted a replacement or a refund or part of it was missing, etc., I would email in a heartbeat. Or if it came from a local store, I may have gone back for a replacement. Just seems better to let other potential buyers know...
I dunno. Maybe I should. If it were a restaurant though, I just wouldn't go back. Wouldn't bother with complaining. Hopefully, that makes sense.
Also, I've been dealing with a more serious offense this week that's been taking most of my attention. Lots of complaining there and calling around. lol In the grand scheme of things, the state of this deck seems kind of not worth the effort... I'm thoroughly tired of confronting people and complaining for at least the next few days. Maybe next week I will though if it's still bugging me.
Thanks for the replies. I'm glad it's not a common problem.
I have it for a while now. The only thing that bothers me with some cards is the very stiff looking clothing. But then, it's supposed to be leather.
Tansey Ella
12-05-2007, 01:27
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Mellifluous
12-05-2007, 21:50
Well, I'm very glad to say I'm enjoying the book so far. I love that it's soft and spiral bound with a plastic spiral instead of metal. Also, smiling at the content so far. :) Even better than the web site.
The Empress card is so beautiful and so well thought out in terms of symbols. Can't help but wish they were all bigger just so you could enjoy the artwork better, but then it would be hard to shuffle the deck.
I'm very relieved to begin enjoying this without so many associated cranky thoughts.
I ordered mine from the "Tarot Garden" and everything was ok and spanking brand new.
I can remember that I received a deck where the box was taped, but I can't say if it was this one.