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ScarabFlight
10-03-2004, 00:05
I got the New Palladini deck and most of the cards I really like. Some of them the drawing is a bit off, the proportions are a bit wonky. I just had the biggest urge to draw on the cards!! Is that a horrible thing? Just a little line here, a little something there......must.. hold.. hand.. back.. lol The magician card is one of the wonkiest, I think. I just want to add a little line so his upraised arm looks foreshortened and not just really short. I really love the High Priestess and the Sun though.
Anyway, thanks for letting me rant. Has anyone ever felt like this before?
I think you will find that a number of us have marked (improved or defaced, depending on one's point of view - or one's 'knowledge' and talent) some deck or other.
Part of the problem with marking a deck is that in, for example, a year or two's time, your alterations may seem unwarranted...
...if, however, you get can get another copy of the deck easily, then I would actually encourage you to mark or alter one in any way you see fit !!! :)
I've done this with my World Spirit Tarot. I gave the man in the 10 of Pents a pair of shorts! It was just one little thing about the deck that bothered me and affected my readings. I really love this deck, though, so I did a little fixing and now, for me, it is perfect!
No regrets. After all, it is my deck!
Mimi
Imagemaker
10-03-2004, 08:21
I wrote all the Osho Zen keywords on the cards of one of my miniature Rider Waite decks. Thus I can visualize the Osho card if I want and have a double-deck reading. Or not.
I also cut all the borders off my New Palladini and like the size so much better!
I say, they're cards, play with them . . .
I marked various, most of the Minor, cards from my Ancient Italian with little black dots next to the numerals because I couldn't tell which way was reversed and, even though I don't read reversed at the moment someday I might. :)
Originally posted by Mimers
I've done this with my World Spirit Tarot. I gave the man in the 10 of Pents a pair of shorts! It was just one little thing about the deck that bothered me and affected my readings. I really love this deck, though, so I did a little fixing and now, for me, it is perfect!
No regrets. After all, it is my deck!
Mimi
Oh Mimers! I love this I'm going to do this too.
Maybe some hawaiian bermudas!
Now, what are we going to do with that ugly baby with the chest hair on the Sun card?
ScarabFlight if you never intend to trade the deck please feel free to make it your own in anyway you feel like it.
I think it's wonderful that you want to tweek it to make it more personal for you.
ScarabFlight
10-03-2004, 12:42
*Whew* You guys have made me feel so much better!!! I love the idea of cutting the edges off and I love how you added shorts! lol Thank you to everyone who has posted so far!
Now I'm off to look at my cards again pen in hand! Maybe those borders will have to go............
Imagemaker
10-03-2004, 14:57
Use extra sharp scissors, a very steady hand, and afterwards, blunt the corners as a unit (stacked and tapped on a table). Lightly scrape the card edges to take off the sharpness there.
Trimming worked out really great partly because the New Pal has distinct thin black lines to cut along.
lunakasha
10-03-2004, 17:46
Originally posted by lark
Oh Mimers! I love this I'm going to do this too.
Maybe some hawaiian bermudas!
Now, what are we going to do with that ugly baby with the chest hair on the Sun card?
LMAO Lark!!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
I just got the World Spirit deck (finally) and I love it so much...but the Nixon-baby is absolutely hideous....and yet it does make me smile, so I guess that's not a bad thing!
Back to the topic: I think you should do whatever you want, they are your cards and as long as you don't plan to try selling or trading them in the future, why not??? Personally, I just wouldn't feel comfortable altering any of my cards....I just feel very protective of them in that way....for the same reason that I never ever write inside any of my books....just can't do it!
:) Luna
Chronata
10-03-2004, 18:05
Oh I am so happy to hear that other people out there have drawn on, or cut the borders off of a tarot deck that they own!
If it's yours...a little "defacing" shouldn't matter at all!
I have been going crazy debating whether or not to cut the big black borders off of my Vision deck!
I think you all just helped make up my mind!
Now...off to find some sharp scissors!......
wavebreaker
10-03-2004, 18:13
I wouldn't change any pictures in a tarot deck. The creator of a deck has created those pictures for a reason, with a certain meaning. Changing the picture would change the meaning. If I don't like the picture or the meaning represented by it, I don't buy the deck... ;)
As for the World Spirit Tarot: you can read here (http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/interview_worldspirit.shtml) what the creators of the deck have to say about the guy with no pants in the Ten of Pentacles and about the baby in the Sun card. ;)
lunakasha
11-03-2004, 17:13
Thanks, wavebreaker....
I remember reading that once before....it does help to hear what the artist and/or author intended when creating the cards.
But even after reading this, I still think the Sun card looks like a Nixon-baby, just MHO....:D It's OK, though....I really love this deck!!!
:) Luna
That was very interesting wavebreaker.
Thanks for the site.
But I still feel that if they have the freedom to not put any pants on that guy I have the freedom to take my black sharpie markers and draw a pair of bike shorts on him.
And so I did hehehe.
He looked very relieved. :D
That is someones real baby OH MY :confused:
wavebreaker
11-03-2004, 19:01
Originally posted by lark
But I still feel that if they have the freedom to not put any pants on that guy I have the freedom to take my black sharpie markers and draw a pair of bike shorts on him.Of course! ;) But I thought it would be nice to show the creators' view too. I've personally found that I sometimes change my mind about a card I don't like when I learn what the creator's idea behind it was. But then sometimes I don't change my mind. ;)
That is someones real baby OH MY :confused: I don't particularly like the Sun card either, but I do think it's sad it's such an unpopular card when you know the story behind the card.
Originally posted by wavebreaker
I don't particularly like the Sun card either, but I do think it's sad it's such an unpopular card when you know the story behind the card.
I know I though of that too as I was reading the article. Poor woman she put her baby on the card out of love and everybody thinks it looks like Richard Nixon. Or as they say a "crooked politician."
Oh well I guess they just can't draw a baby very well.
I'll leave the baby alone he's kind of growing on me.
But if he sprouts any more chest hair I might have to draw a bib on him. ;)
lunakasha
11-03-2004, 19:08
Originally posted by lark
That is someones real baby OH MY :confused:
LMAO!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh:
From Seinfeld: That's one ugly baby...
HAHAHA!!!!
:D Luna
If you consider the type of artwork, I can see the sun card being a baby. It's not chest hair, it's baby fat! I am not too fond of the Sun card, but it didn't bother me too much.
The naked man wouldn't have bothered me if he weren't around children.
I really love this deck. It was the only way I could read with it. I did not want to miss out on the beauty of the deck just because of that one card.
Lark, maybe you could draw the baby a rattle!
Originally posted by Mimers
Lark, maybe you could draw the baby a rattle!
A rattle !
A rattle !
Richard Nixon with a rattle!
Now that's just too scary.... :confused: ROFL
Originally posted by Imagemaker
I wrote all the Osho Zen keywords on the cards of one of my miniature Rider Waite decks. Thus I can visualize the Osho card if I want and have a double-deck reading. Or not.
I also cut all the borders off my New Palladini and like the size so much better!
I say, they're cards, play with them . . .
I have a Sacred Rose tarotdeck and i took your advice on cutting the borders off it, no harm in that but guess what happened!
It could have been no problem for anyone else, but for me as the perfectionist that i am i had to cut them perfectly!!! I dont know if you´ve ever seen a sacred rose deck but has quite unregulary sides and it took me about four days to cut the whole deck...lol
But i realy enjoy the new size and the new first impression they give. they realy look more mystical and they are more easy to read without the white borders :)
So in the end, thank u for the advice ;)
Imagemaker
17-03-2004, 17:06
I'm glad it turned out well (whew!) and I cut ve-ery carefully and slowly because I'm a perfectionist about this stuff, too. I wanted to do it on a papercutter, but knew the blade wouldn't be sharp enough or the line-up dependable enough.
I've not had the need to cut any other deck's borders off. But it DOES give one a feeling a power.
I’ve heard of people cutting off the boarders/keywords on the Osho Zen (and other ‘keyword’ cards). I guess I’m not too fond of keywords, because sometimes what the card is telling me isn’t the same as what is written on it, but I just can’t bring myself to cut it! I know I wouldn’t do a good job, and the Virgo in me would require perfection. I know I’d feel like I ruined the deck.
Originally posted by Kath
I’ve heard of people cutting off the boarders/keywords on the Osho Zen (and other ‘keyword’ cards). I guess I’m not too fond of keywords, because sometimes what the card is telling me isn’t the same as what is written on it, but I just can’t bring myself to cut it! I know I wouldn’t do a good job, and the Virgo in me would require perfection. I know I’d feel like I ruined the deck.
Well, you know yourself best. But i would anyway advice you to listen to your own last words; feel the fear, and do it anyway! (it YOU want ofcourse).
Glass Owl
17-02-2006, 19:52
I'm glad that I found this thread because I have been debating about whether or not to use a marker on one of my decks too! I see that I'm not the only one who has felt this way. I sooo want to add pants/shorts/underwear? to the Hermit card from my LS Celtic deck but I don't want to end up messing it up or regretting it later. There is other nudity in the deck but that card really bugs me. I asked my husband about it and he basically said that I should do it if I think it would make me feel more comfortable with the deck. Of course, knowing me, I would change that card and then decide that there are other cards that I want to change. LOL
--Glass Owl
Hey, I never regretted drawing those shorts on the 10 of pents.
I used the deck much more after that too.
I drew a little skirt on the woman on the Devil card of the World Spirit too.
She was just a little ....how shall I put this.... too available. ;)
starrystarrynight
17-02-2006, 22:54
I am sitting here roaring out loud at this discussion! I love the bike shorts and little skirt idea! I don't know if I'd actually do it myself (maybe I would if I had that deck...) but something about the way you said that woman was a little too available, Lark...I don't know, that just tickled my funny bone!
And the Seinfeld baby comment...OMG, I guess I really needed a laugh and synchronicity(!) brought me here right now.