View Full Version : scrying info please
faunabay
15-04-2002, 23:53
I realized I should have started a new thread about this instead of posting it under jade's "new divination" one. So here it is.....
jade, can you fill me in on this scrying business please? :) I haven't really done much of this at all, but have been getting more and more interested in it.
If you would - fill me (us) in on the actual physical (what do you physically do to scry) and the psychic (what do you "see" or "get") parts of scrying please.
One thing I do know is you can scry with almost any clear surface - water, crystals, mirrors, etc.
well, it depends. sometimes i actually physically see a small tv screen inside the crystal ball (or glass of water etc) and i watch the figures move around and just describe what i see.
other times i see (still) pictures like slides that change.
at other times i see pictures that i interpret and then another picture forms and i interpret it,......kinda like looking at a tarot card that you haven't seen before and interpreting it.
i also get smells, feelings, sense stuff etc.
in light,
jade
ps my new ball is made from fossilized marble......i LOVE using it cause the little markings actually become things. like the last reading i did, i saw dragons holding onto the rock in the querents front yard. a fairie in the garden bathing in a hanging bird bath. and her twin daughters going in different directions. to name a few things...the reading was well over an hour long.
Malachite
16-04-2002, 03:40
Jade: "the little markings actually become things"
Is that allowed then?...when I try and use my crystal, a lot of the patterns i see are just reflections/refractions etc...so, do they count if they become something else?..I kinda thought they didn;t, which might be why i haven;t really had much success...
;)
Malachite:
Like Jade, I find that the marks in my crystal do become things. My quartz crystal has a lot of inclusions and veils, and I use those to "get things going." Once I'm into it, i don't even see those things anymore, as I am seeing "pictures" in the "front" of the crystal. (not sure if that makes sense, it's hard to describe).
Jade:
I'm glad to hear that your new ball of fossilized marble works so well. It's opaque then? I just purchased a beautiful green and black jasper ball, but I haven't used it yet (waiting for the full moon so I can cleanse it first). Can't wait!!
faunabay
16-04-2002, 12:50
Part of the reason this is in the front of my mind right now is I went to a friends retreat center this last weekend. She has a green glass ball (with air bubbles in it) out in what she calls Shiva's corner on a nature pathway.
As I was staring into it I almost began to see things - but not quite. It was almost like something wanted to come through but I just wasn't letting it????
OK this has made me think of another question - I'm off to start another thread. LOL :)
okay first malachite, yes that's 'allowed' LOL that's the whole point!
bella, no it's not opague. it's solid but it doesn't seem to matter one bit. it still shows me as much as my experiences with a crystal ball.
also, i cleanse my stuff with energy (reiki) rather than the moon. i'm not saying that the whole 'horse and pony show' doesn't have merit, but it's really not neccessary. it depends alot of what you believe. personally i believe there are no limitations on what i can do and how i can do it. so i don't feel that i need to wait for the moon, or anything else. i can move energy to become what i need, when i need it. (hope that makes sense)
in light,
jade
ps but my way isn't the right way, it's just right for me. ;)
Jade:
hmm, I have absolutely no experience with reiki so that is not an option for me. wish i did though, reading about it so much here at aecletic, it sounds wonderful! I actually "smudged" my first crystal first, but it still didn't feel "right" afterwards, so my sister advised me to use the moon for cleansing, and it was effective, so i'll just use it for my second ball as well! (i just leave the ball on the windowsill for three nites).
any experience with opaque balls? i'm wondering how this will compare to the clear crystals...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by jade [/i
also, i cleanse my stuff with energy (reiki) rather than the moon. i'm not saying that the whole 'horse and pony show' doesn't have merit, but it's really not neccessary. it depends alot of what you believe.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"horse and pony show"? jade i'm hurt! :(
i would love to learn more about reiki, it sounds absolutely wonderful, and i suspect that to some degree i have learned a little by intuition. but please don't discount ritual. i believe our individual spirit guides require/are pleased by, different things from us. ritual is very important in my life. it keeps me connected with the spirits and "powers that be". ritual is valuable in many aspects of life, just ask our children.
i'm also a firm believer in the power of the moon. i garden by moon phases, watch my female energy and power cycle like the tides. life has many cycles, tying in to them, be they moon cycles or seasonal cycles connects me to something universal.
zorya,
you missed the part that said, "'i'm not saying that the whole 'horse and pony show' doesn't have merit, but it's really not neccessary. it depends alot of what you believe."
if you believe that the moon has power, then it does.
if someone else believes that candles have power, then they do.
alot of what we do and what we believe in is because it 'feels' right for us. for me "personally i believe there are no limitations on what i can do and how i can do it." it feels right for me to take the power of the moment and transform it into my current needs :)
i also believe in ritual.
so please zorya, don't take my example of cleansing a crystal ball into meaning that planting by the moon is NOT effective, because i completely believe in the power of the moon.
i just don't believe that cleansing tools and cards etc need to be done by burying them, or letting them sit in a window sill for three nights, it's another way of doing it, nothing wrong with it, but for me, personally, i don't do it that way. that doesn't make my way wrong.....just different from yours :)
in light,
jade
i don't think i missed the point my friend.
of course there are many ways. but i would never call the way you ( or anyone else here ) do something spiritual "a horse and pony show".
yes, i have the power to cleanse and empower my ritual artifacts in a much simpler way,they certainly don't "need" to be placed out under a particular moon. but i prefer the the 'horse and pony' ritual for myself, because i feel that, as you once said, and i quote;
"if you want to give the goddess as little time as possible and want a BIG something in return........remember that all exchanges must be equal. if you give the goddess 3 minutes, expect 3 minutes worth of 'big something' in return."
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true, true.
LOL
jade
ps the reference to 'horse and pony show' is my mother's words..........and not meant to be demeaning :)
*zorya gives jade a big hug*
jade and zorya:
while i agree with zorya about the "horse and pony show" reference sounding a bit "harsh" (not the word i'm looking for, but at a loss for the moment), i wasn't offended, jade! i'm just glad you guys "made up!"
i agree, you need to do what feels right to you, and there is no "right" or "wrong" way. since whatever i do for divination takes place when my family is sleeping, i don't have to worry about what others think about my rituals!
since this thread was originally started to ask about scrying, and how one does it, i just wanted to share my 2 cents, but i might think twice about that next time :( .
Seems like we lost the gist of the thread. i'd like to see more scrying info as well!
well bella, POST SOME!!!!!!!
jade:
i already did and got shot down!
i'm a really introverted person, both online and off, so it takes a lot for me to jump in and give an opinion! scrying is relatively new for me, but has worked as i've been doing it, so i thought i'd like share just some of what i do. although i know that there is no "right way", i was made to feel that my way wasn't valid at all. you seem to be a really nice person here, so i maybe i just took it wrong, but i'm hesitant to post more!
what i meant was i'd like to hear how more experienced people scry, ok?
Bella, you are okay.
This electronic medium is difficult for some folks to work with. Sometimes folk’s type in a hurry with disregard for how their missive may ‘sound’ on the other side. In the last twenty years we humans have forgotten the ancient art of letter writing, it takes too long and we are in a hurry damn it!
So oft times folks ‘flame’ us, and come off rude and opinionated. They may not even mean it.
On the other hand, some of us are opinionated and tend to pontificate (like me, I mean to be helpful, but sometimes I just cannot stop typing).
& Yup, Jade is a jewel.
To learn to scry is not that difficult. The key is starting. Once you have trained your mind to open (focus/and let go) they you can begin using more items.
You can scry with darn near anything. But in the beginning, they always recommend the classic crystal ball. Our mind/brain is trained that the Crystal ball is what you use, so it is easiest to break down the barriers and open the mind when the inner mind is not fighting with you (“You can’t scry with a PDA!”…but you can).
Keep working, do not let folks put you off.
bella, i'm truly sorry! and i apologise to everyone else reading this thread. i can be too sensitive and much too defensive. i did take this thread off track. i should have considered everyone elses feelings. i'm sending much love to everyone on the forum!
@>----^-------
zorya
faunabay
18-04-2002, 15:13
Everyone has made up!!! Yea!!
Now back to scrying! LOL
Thanks for your opinions and thoughts. Everyone here has helped me alot. I think I'm going to have to sit down and just do it!! See what happens. I'll keep you all posted.
Malachite
18-04-2002, 15:34
How important is cleansing?...I haven;t done that with mine yet, but I haven't really sat down and had a good scrying sesh with it yet.
Are negatives likely to be bothersome, or is it ok just to have a good mindset before viewing?