Aeclectic Tarot Forum - Tarot Decks in Film, Literature and Song.

Vilyariel

02-01-2005, 11:16

gypsy

02-01-2005, 11:32

tarot totes has dedicated a section of their site to tarot in movies and television...

http://www.tarottotes.com/item.asp?IID=36

i also remember seeing the cards in a few early 80s sitcoms (perhaps it influenced my young mind...?) and on the ever-ridiculous soap opera "passions". oh, and on the hbo show "carnivale"... they use the cards on the show, but they also use them in the opening sequence.

Sunburst

02-01-2005, 11:58

There's the book, "The Channel", by Aeclectic's very own lawguy51.

SongDeva

02-01-2005, 12:07

I just saw Ocean's Twelve last night, and the RW 5 of Wands was featured, which was great since the whole film is about a battle of wills.

Emily

02-01-2005, 12:46

The Masque of the Red Death uses tarot cards in its main title but not sure if they feature in the film at all - I've never seen it all the way through.

Fudugazi

02-01-2005, 15:13

Off the top of my head:

- Italo Calvino's The Castle of Crossed Destinies, which features the Visconti (in part 1) and the Tarot de Marseille in part 2. It's a great book of stories made up from a succession of tarot cards.

- There was a James Bond film that famously featured tarot and Jane Seymour reading - You Only Live Twice, I think (it took place partly in the Carribean).

- Carmen sees her death in the tarot cards of the gipsy.

- The Wasteland, of course, though no-one has been able to identify a card called "The Drowned Phoenician Sailor" (or have they?) ;)

- Arcane 17, André Breton's song to the Star- actually to freedom and love. He identifies the Star with a woman he loves passionately, and, poet ever (though this is a prose text), knits the two closely: XVII- The Star, is "the soul that links matter and spirit" and a feminine symbol of consolation - he sees the Tarot Star as a light in the dark tunnel of war and nazi tyranny -but also a key to his own state of mind, as an unhappy exile from occupied France in 1944, but deeply in love with his own star.

HudsonGray

02-01-2005, 16:02

They've been on multiple tv shows--Buffy (several episodes), Roswell (several episodes), Charmed, two Simpson's episodes, etc.

And that metallic hexagon set used by the captive Reverend Mother in the made for tv movie Dune (latest movie, not the first one).

(NOT in Love Potion #9, that was a palm reading at the beginning.)

Did Big Fish have a tarot reading at the start?

Lillie

02-01-2005, 16:18

This is a weird one, perhaps someone knows something about it.

I have a memory from when I was very young of a TV series, possibly a kids series called 'The Ace of Wands'.

I must have been about 6, so that would have been 69/70.

I remember wanting to watch it, but not being allowed to.
That memory has stuck with me all my life.

Does anyone recall it, or what it was about?
Or is it just a figment of my childish imagination.

Also;
'Tales of the unexpected' had the 1JJswiss tarot in the titles.

other

02-01-2005, 16:28

I just saw Ocean's Twelve last night, and the RW 5 of Wands was featured, which was great since the whole film is about a battle of wills.

Love that! Very hip. I recall a "Simpsons" episode - I believe it was one of the Halloween ones - where a gypsy read cards. There was another episode where Lisa wanders into a fortune teller's tent, but I'm pretty sure that was a crystal ball situation.

I also remember the Jane Seymour reading in the Bond film - Bond was so sllick all the cards were the Lover! Of course, Bond might not have realized that the Lover card doesn't necessarily guarantee love/sex!

Ulfdis

03-01-2005, 02:42

My all-time favorite X-Files episode, "Clyde Bruckman's Last Repose" featured the Tarot of the Witches (yep, the same deck as was used in the James Bond movie). The X-Files episode was all about a serial killer who stalked the prognosticators of Minneapolis-St. Paul. His M.O. was to seek out a reading (crystal ball, tea leaves, and Tarot) and end the reading by killing his victim. One of my favorite scenes is toward the end when Scully picks up one of the cards at the crime scene. It's a Page (I think Cups, but I don't remember.) She looks at the card and has a flash of insight... the killer's day job is as a busboy!

fairyhedgehog

03-01-2005, 04:57

Nina Lee Braden has compiled a list of Tarot in Literature (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2282/tarot/tarlit.htm) which I've found very useful in looking for something to read.

crystal cove

03-01-2005, 11:16

Ahhhh.....I loved X-files! I don't remember the tarot cards but that was a great episode.

Yesterday I was watching Tombstone with Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer and there was a scene with Tarot cards. Wyatt's sister in law was consulting the cards right before someone opens the door and shoots at them. Of course, the cards that came up were the Devil, Tower......and one other...I can't recall. What a coincidence. ;-)

Fudugazi

03-01-2005, 15:50

Nina Lee Braden has compiled a list of Tarot in Literature (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2282/tarot/tarlit.htm) which I've found very useful in looking for something to read.

My only quibble with her list is that she isn't "impressed" by Italo Calvino's book The Castle of Crossed Destinies. I'm rereading it at the moment. It's a fantastic read - fantastic in the original sense of the word, meaning strange and unsettling, and also very well written. One for the head, rather than the heart, but very good, and at times, both funny and sad. A kind of literary game played with Visconti and Tarot de Marseille. It's not his best book, but anything he writes is impressive.

Magi

04-01-2005, 00:38

There was a movie called Doctor Terrors House of Horrors, where it was four guys in a train car and the good doctor read the others cards and told them how they would die in super natural situations. It was a really bad movie. Really, it sucked.

ElfantPup

04-01-2005, 05:28

Tarot cards (as Taroc pack) make an appearance in Sylvia Plath's confessional poem "Daddy"

"...The snows of the Tyrol, the clear beer of Vienna
Are not very pure or true.
With my gypsy ancestress and my weird luck
And my Taroc pack and my Taroc pack
I may be a bit of a Jew..."

mercenary30

04-01-2005, 08:05

- There was a James Bond film that famously featured tarot and Jane Seymour reading - You Only Live Twice, I think (it took place partly in the Carribean).

I do believe that movie was Live and Let Die!!

There is a show on Cartoon Network called the Adventures of Grimm and the closing credits has cartooned versions of the RWS Fool card, Emperor card, and Death card. (Not to mention the cartoon is quite humorous.)

Fudugazi

04-01-2005, 08:29

I do believe that movie was Live and Let Die!!

Yes you're right - Live and Let Die!
You Only Live Twice had a Japanese theme. Got my James Bonds confused, too.

RufusJ

04-01-2005, 19:29

Charles Williams, one of the Inklings along with C.S. Lewis and J.R.R. Tolkien, but also a good friend of A.E. Waite (who according to some reports initiated Williams into the Golden Dawn) wrote a book called "The Greater Trumps". It definitely deals with Tarot, one of my favorites for reading on a rainy afternoon. I think it's out of print now but well worth reading. The literary style is old fashioned but it's doable, esp if you like English mysteries-- sort of a mix of Sayres and Wodehouse.

lark

04-01-2005, 21:46

A Walk on the Moon
The grandmother in the movie reads tarot cards.
One of my favorite parts of the movie is when a friend of the grandmother comes over for a reading.
Her question is, "Should she go on a vacation to Miami."
Grandma says the cards say "NO".....and they start to squabble about what the cards are saying..
Finally Grandma holds up the 10 of Swords and says."Now does this look like a vacation to you?"
When she gets called out of the room for a minute, her friend reaches for a card and she turns around and says.
"Don't touch those cards!"

The Rider Waite Smith deck is used in the movie.

Corso

04-01-2005, 23:38

Hey all,
I just thought I'd start a thread about the occurence of tarot/oracles in film, literature and song, just incase anyone was interested in that kind of thing.

So far, I'm aware of the following;

The Ninth Gate [Film]
The Da Vinci Code [Book -- the illustrated version in particular features some card images from the Oswald Wirth tarot, but theyre reprints, not originals...i think.]
Machina/The Machines of God; Smashing Pumpkins [CD insert has some tarot-like images and symbols. if anyone is interested in this I can scan the images and post a link.]
The Gift [Film]

If you found it interesting in The Ninth Gate(which is my favorite movie) take a look at the actual book, The Club Dumas byArturo Perez-Revetre.

In the book, the 'engravings' differ from the movie, but the still seem to keep the same meaning, such as

-The Hanged Man
-The Fool
-Death
-The Tower
- The Hierophant
- Judgment
- And The Devil

I'll admit, I've been obsessed with both the movie, The Ninth Gate, and the book, The Club Dumas since I first found them and their connection to the occult.

Shade

05-01-2005, 03:05

Lessee

James Bond Live & Let Die springs to mind with Jane Seymour as Solitaire the tarot reading bod girl. Could have been good but she loses her powers because she sleeps with James... very lame.

on the Witch Roomate episode of Felicity the Mage teh Ascension deck is featured which I rather enoyed.

The opening credits of Disney's Haunted Mansion have tarot cards

The comic book Promethea gets very deep with tarot symbolism (along with Kabbalah and Astrology) this is probably the most spiritual use for teh cards in pop culture.

Now and Then features a tarot reading about a murdered boy done by Jeneanne Garoffolo (sp?)

I think on a Halloween episode of Touched By An Angel the Devil sends a deck to some family and th Angels have to save them from the trouble they get into with it. Lame!

The love interest in Kull the Conquerer reads with a round deck of cards.

The Man in Back does a reading for the hero at the end of Stephen King's The Gunslinger.

tabbycat

05-01-2005, 08:41

No, Lillie, you aren't imagining Ace of Wands! I loved it too and remember watching it. It was about a magician called Tarot who solved supernatural crimes. He had a wonderful eagle owl called Ozymandias. There's some info here, but not much -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065269/combined#comment

There was some use of tarot cards in the series Poltergeist: the Legacy, especially in the fourth season episode 'Infernal Affairs' where they used a great levitating tarot deck, produced by the art department, I suspect, as I didn't recognise it.
Also worth a mention is Mike Batt's album, Tarot Suite - not to some people's taste, I know, but I like it!
I'm currently reading Jonathan Strange and Mr Norell, by Susanna Clarke, a delightfully droll novel about two magicians in 19th century England. Mr Norell's servant, Childermass, does a reading with a tarot pack 'the cards of Marseilles', which he copied from a set owned by a sailor he met in Whitby (he was too poor at the time to buy the cards, so he sketched them, mostly from memory, on ale-house bills, laundry lists, etc. and stuck them onto coloured card later). Go read this book! It's huge (over 700 pages) and it's quite extraordinary.

Waterdancer

05-01-2005, 08:56

There was an episode of the TV show Joan of Arcadia this season where Joan can't get an answer about her future from God so she goes to a tarot card reader to ask about her future and all of the cards turn up blank.

Magi

05-01-2005, 14:48

There's an anime called decendants of darkness that uses tarot cards as basis for about four to six episodes.

ElfantPup

14-02-2005, 02:15

I haven't been on this forum for a month or so, then I came across something that made me remember this thread. From Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray:
"Over and over again Dorian used to read this fantastic chapter, and the two chapters immediately following, in which, as in some curious tapestries or cunningly wrought enamels, were pictured the awful and beautiful forms of those whom vice and blood and weariness had made monstrous or mad: ...Charles VI, who had so wildly adored his brother's wife that a leper had warned him of the insanity that was coming on him, and who, when his brain had sickened and grown strange, could only be soothed by Saracen cards painted with the images of love and death and madness..."

Am I right in thinking Saracen cards are Arabic cards without pictures (since Islam doesn't allow pictures other than calligraphy and decorative scrolling designs)? If so, and if the author was not familiar with the difference, he could have meant Tarot cards or something related to them.

And I'm curious about this Charles VI story. I'll have to search the forum to see if there's any info about it.

Cerulean

14-02-2005, 10:01

http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/estensi-golden-renaissance/review.shtml

Some of the fun discussion though is buried in several threads, so I only linked to the review of the modern revived deck, linked with art to the Italian city-state of Ferarra.

Poetic associations in history of the tarot trumps and allegorical games of tarot in poetry include Ferarrese-based sons and daughters of the Estensi and those around them use the associative structure...here's one online translation--look to the right:

http://www.trigono.com/tarots/storia_dei_tarocchi3.htm

There's also the MM Boiardo poem and an associated recreated deck with it--based in Ferarra.

Best wishes.

Cerulean

WolfSpirit

14-02-2005, 16:39

We had the Austrian series "Kommissar Rex" here about a police dog helping to solve crimes. In one of the episodes, they find dead bodies all with a tarot card on them. The police suspects the killer is trying to frame a tarot reader. The deck used is RWS. The tarot reader was shown as a very normal person, although she was more trusting than the average person that the truth would come out. She was not shown using the cards.
Here is the cover of the book: http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/3802529286.03.LZZZZZZZ.jpg (isn't he cute - if you look closely you see he has his paw on a card)

And I remember an old BBC series, Hearts and Bones, about a group of friends, one of them is always trying trendy and novelty stuff and in one episode she gets a deck of tarot cards (don't know which deck) and she starts doing readings for everyone.
It was kind of fun because it reminded me of how I got started: laying down a row of cards, with the book in her hand, reading the book meanings and not knowing how to make it all fit into something that was meaningful for the querent. Then they are discussing whether they think tarot is useful or not.
And one gets too much into it and keeps wanting reading after reading.
Pity they did not discover Aeclectic as well, that would have helped ;)

tarotbear

14-02-2005, 18:01

Drat - lost the post I started! Where do they go ...?

Anyway - the Movie is "LIVE AND LET DIE", btw and you all should go to the tarot totes website and check out the stiff people have found with Tarot in it.

I bought my 007 Bond version of the Witches tarot, and the James Bond Live & Let Die tarot game off ebay - by being veeeeeery patient. I also found a Solataire doll once - and bought that one, too! ( I collect dolls with Tarot cards with them.)

Vincent

14-02-2005, 19:19

Bob Dylan's album Desire had a picture of Waite's Empress on the back and his album Street Legal had this song with its breathtakingly beautiful lyrics;

Changing of the Guard

Sixteen years
Sixteen banners united over the field
Where the good shepherd grieves
Desperate men, desperate women divided
Spreading their wings 'neath falling leaves.

Fortune calls
I stepped forth from the shadows to the marketplace
Merchants and thieves, hungry for power, my last deal gone down
She's smelling sweet like the meadows where she was born
On midsummer's eve near the tower.

The cold-blooded moon
The captain waits above the celebration
Sending his thoughts to a beloved maid
Whose ebony face is beyond communication
The captain is down but still believing that his love will be repaid.

They shaved her head
She was torn between Jupiter and Apollo
A messenger arrived with a black nightingale
I seen her on the stairs and I couldn't help but follow
Follow her down past the fountain where they lifted her veil.

I stumbled to my feet
I rode past destruction in the ditches
With the stitches still mending beneath a heart-shaped tattoo
Renegade priests and treacherous young witches
Were handing out the flowers that I'd given to you.

The palace of mirrors
Where dog soldiers are reflected
The endless road and the wailing of chimes
The empty rooms where her memory is protected
Where the angel's voices whisper to the souls of previous times.

She wakes him up
Forty-eight hours later the sun is breaking
Near broken chains, mountain laurel and rolling rocks
She's begging to know what measures he now will be taking
He's pulling her down and she's clutching on to his long golden locks.
Gentlemen, he said I don't need your organization, I've shined your shoes
I've moved your mountains and marked your cards
But Eden is burning either brace yourself for elimination
Or else your hearts must have the courage for the changing of the guards.

Peace will come
With tranquillity and splendor on the wheels of fire
But will bring us no reward when her false idols fall
And cruel death surrenders with its pale ghost retreating
Between the King and the Queen of Swords."

Vincent

stella01904

14-02-2005, 19:27

MM ~ No one has mentioned The Red Violin! It's Italian, with subtitles. There is a Minchiate Tarot reading - and a violin stained with the blood of a dead woman by her grieving husband! The woman didn't live to go to the places predicted by the reading - but the violin went! MUST SEE. BB, Stella

tikigal

14-02-2005, 20:10

And of course there is Roger Zelazny's sci-fi series "The Chronicles of Amber."

graylensman

15-02-2005, 08:29

Perhaps a bit more obscure:

Samuel R. Delany's SF novel "Nova". In this future world tarot is considered by the majority of its inhabitants to be a useful, time-proven tool for divination and analysis.

Mabuse

15-02-2005, 22:21

It is actually the 1JJ deck featured in Touch of Evil (1958).
ToE is the oldest film I have seen which shows a tarot deck. The word "tarot" is not used in this film however. I am right now, for my own research purposes, looking for a film made prior to 1958 depicting tarot cards and still I have not found one.

The Wolfman (1941) doesn't quite count as one cannot see the cards sufficiently well to identify the deck. The average movie goer in the 1940's would likely to have assumed it to be a standard playing card deck.

stella01904

16-02-2005, 12:16

OH, how could I forget! Jack Kerouac's On The Road has a woman reading Tarot cards! "Dean Moriarty" keeps showing up in the spreads. Neal Cassady was a very strong personality! Excuse me, now, while I berate myself for forgetting one of the best books EVER written...

Lillie

16-02-2005, 18:22

Has anyone mentioned 'Little, Big' by J Crowley (probably no relation.)

It has a deck of cards, which though not Tarot are very tarot like.

This is a very beautifully written book. Worth a read for anyone who likes fantasy.

And the cards are a pretty significant part of it.

tabbycat

05-05-2008, 08:26

Working a bit of necromantic magic here, to raise this thread from the dead! :D
Just finished reading Dust by Elizabeth Bear, an S-F novel about an ancient generation-ship trapped in orbit around a dying double star. One of the characters, Jacob Dust, who's actually an Angel (really a fragment of the ship's broken AI control-mind) does a tarot reading in the middle of the book for another of the AIs, the Angel of Death.
From " a steel case embossed with a black enamel dragon" he produces a deck that's "longer than a standard deck, though not much wider. The backs were plain black, the edges finished in silver gilt. They clicked like baccarat tiles when he shuffled them."
Dust says that "Tarot readings are like stories, you see - they have characters, conflict, action, climax, theme and denouement." He tells us that there are six suits, with six face cards and ten numbered cards in each. The suits are Cups, Stars, Stones, Blades, Wires and Voids.
Dust lays the cards in what appears to be a Celtic Cross - the inverted Suns, the Hanged Man, the Captain of Stars, the Angel of Wires, the Nine of Stones, the Prince of Stars, the Angel of Stars, the Princess of Blades, the Angel of Voids and the Princess of Voids. Stars are described as the suit of fire, Blades as the suit of atmosphere and habitation and Voids as the suit of entropy, memory and shadow.
In a lovely touch of parody, a tip of the hat to the usual treatment of tarot in the media, Bear has Dust pull three more cards after the reading - the Ten of Blades ("Ruin" he said, "but that doesn't concern us"), the Three of Blades ("Heartbreak" he said. "But also not our problem.") and then a final, inevitable Tower, with an image of the generation-ship in flames.
It's an interesting book, with unexpected touches of humour and broad, breathtaking vistas of descriptions of the ship and its parts. I liked the tarot segment so much that I felt I had to share it here. And how could you not love a book with a basilisk called Gavin?

Le Fanu

05-05-2008, 10:53

'Tales of the unexpected' had the 1JJswiss tarot in the titles.

Im sure that this must be one of the most seminal moments for any tarot enthusiast watching Uk Tv late 70s early 80s. That sequence has stuck with me ever since. The 1JJ revolving to a kind of eerie music box-like/ mechanical tune. This was the first time I ever really came across tarot and those images had me spellbound. They still do. I still think of the 1JJ as the definitive tarot deck, though I have learnt to love and use others.

I saw the opening credits recently again and it is still as magical and mysterious as I remember it...

I know it isn´t film or song, but surely TV counts...

lilangel09

05-05-2008, 12:06

There are some animes that include/mention Tarot:

- Toward the Terra
- Death Note
- Lucky Star

I think I'm forgetting a few, but these are some I remember.

Teheuti

05-05-2008, 22:58

Originally Posted by Lillie
'Tales of the unexpected' had the 1JJswiss tarot in the titles.

Im sure that this must be one of the most seminal moments for any tarot enthusiast watching Uk Tv late 70s early 80s. That sequence has stuck with me ever since. The 1JJ revolving to a kind of eerie music box-like/ mechanical tune. This was the first time I ever really came across tarot and those images had me spellbound.
You can be spellbound as much as your heart desires. See it at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzaobXhzX9E

And the closing credits have even more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urZYyjj3CuA&feature=related

stella01904

06-05-2008, 10:48

Stay With Me
(Ron Wood/ Rod Stewart)

In the morning
Don't say you love me
Cause I'll only kick you out of the door

I know your name is Rita
Cause your perfum smelling sweeter
Since when I saw you down on the floor
guitar

Won't need to much pursuading
I don't mean to sound degrading
But with a face like that
You got nothing to laugh about

Red lips hair and fingernails
I hear your a mean old Jezebel
Lets go up stairs and read my tarot cards

Stay with me
Stay with me
For tonight you better stay with me

Stay with me
Stay with me
For tonight you better stay with me

So in the morning
Please don't say you love me
Cause you know I'll only kick you out the door

Yea I'll pay your cab fare home
You can even use my best colonge
Just don't be here in the morning when I wake up

Stay with me
Stay with me
Cause tonight you better stay with me
Sit down, get up, get down

Stay with me
Stay with me
Cause tonight your going stay with me
Hey, whats your name again
oh no, get down, wooo

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

nickslan

06-05-2008, 19:37

Ok, so this is going to be really, really cheesy but there's this teen sci fi/fantasy series called "Daughters of the Moon" about these teenage girls that are descendants of the moon goddess who go around Los Angeles fighting this ancient evil force

...I know, I know. But I devoured these books when I was in middle school, and my favorite character was Serena, who, aside from being a complete badass, also read Tarot cards...and that was how I first got interested in the subject. Now that I know something about it I'd love to go back and read the scenes where she reads for the other characters and see what she gets!

annabubble

07-05-2008, 11:04

It's possible I may have missed this, but the only one I can think of (and the book that made me interested in Tarot) is The Tarot Readers Daughter.

It's kind of cheesy and stupid, but it was good when I read it.:) Will have to re-read it now I know a little more about Tarot...

ETA: Re-read it. It's kind of stupid. It follows the myth that you shuld let no-one else ever touch your cards as it disturbs the vibrations :confused:

shaveling

07-05-2008, 11:22

There's the 2005 film Edmond, by David Mamet, starring William H. Macy. It starts with a CC reading using the RWS, and the imagery of the cards in the reading keep reappearing through the movie.

This was originally a stage show, and I haven't seen the script or a production of it, so I have no idea how the relatively small visual elements -- the reading itself, or Macy's Three of Swords tattoo at the end -- show up in the original. I don't even know if they're in the original play at all.

But it's certainly the most Tarot I've ever seen in a movie.

Little Hare

08-05-2008, 20:35

at the beginning of GreenDay's when I come around, the woman is using RW with the plaid backs :D

Gooooooooooo Greenday :D :party:

northsea

09-05-2008, 00:46

The cover of "The Magician" by Sammy Figueroa has an altered Universal Dali Magician card with Figueroa in place of Dali:

http://www.amazon.com/Magician-Sammy-Figueroa/dp/B000N3STH0/ref=wl_itt_dp?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3SE2ZJXCHOQCQ&colid=16H9W4BB949XV

Emily

09-05-2008, 05:20

In the film 'Hostage' with Bruce Willis, the teenage daughter has giant RWS cards/posters on her wall and in one scene she goes under her bed and there is a RWS deck scattered under there but you don't see her use them at all. :)

Teheuti

09-05-2008, 13:25

It would be great to get some of these references moved to "Tarot Books and Media" where we've been trying to collect them.

Bloudwedd

09-05-2008, 17:20

My fiance just saw a very fresh episode of NCIS where the lab-girl (Gzzz, I totally forgot the name of my heroine!) pulls out a tarot card for someone. I think bf said it was the hanged man. I have not yet seen the spisode myself so I cant really say more...

EDIT:
Its Abby ofc that finds a deck among some evidence boxes and draws t"the hanged man" before she is called of for an interrogation..... :-D LOL

SarahRose

09-05-2008, 19:43

I was shocked, but today there was a tarot reference (a neutral one) in a country song! lol

I'm a tried-and-true country listener. Today I heard Craig Morgan's song called "In My Neighborhood" and there is a quick tarot reference. :)

An' if you see a woman in a muumuu
Readin' tarot cards an' palms down by the road
That's how you know, that's how you know
You're in my neighborhood.

http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/morgan-craig/in-my-neighborhood-15291.html

LOL!

Imagemaker

09-05-2008, 19:52

I just saw this brand new book at Borders: Sepulchre by Kate Mosse.

From the description on Amazon: Mosse's tale concerning a rare tarot deck that helps link the lives of two women living eras apart.

Haven't read it yet. Has anyone else seen it?

SarahRose

09-05-2008, 20:04

Little Hare

09-05-2008, 20:47

levannah60

13-05-2008, 05:14

Movies:
-The Red Violin
-Blood Rayne
-The Gift
-Carnival
-Children of Dune

Books:
-The Castle of crossed destinies
-Practical magic
-Tarot Fantastic
-The Oracle Glass
-Dune Messiah
-Harry Potter (5,or 6, when Harry is wearing invisiability cloak and their divination teacher walks by and says, 'A Dark and troubled man...no, that can't be right..' or something like that.)

annabubble

18-05-2008, 11:58

A was watching a old Friends episode the other day and I think Phoebe was using Tarot cards at the start. Can't be sure though because you don't really see the front of them.

It was the one where Monica meets the millionaire if anyone is wondering (but that's not the name, I can't remember it)

le fey

18-05-2008, 12:12

for me the definitive song about Tarot (even though it's talking playing cards) is Sting's Shape of My Heart, about a gambler who 'reads' his hand:

He deals the cards as a meditation
And those he plays never suspect
He doesn't play for the money he wins
He doesn't play for the respect
He deals the cards to find the answer
The sacred geometry of chance
The hidden law of probable outcome
The numbers lead a dance

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart

He may play the jack of diamonds
He may lay the queen of spades
He may conceal a king in his hand
While the memory of it fades

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart
That's not the shape, the shape of my heart

And if I told you that I loved you
You'd maybe think there's something wrong
I'm not a man of too many faces
The mask I wear is one
Those who speak know nothing
And find out to their cost
Like those who curse their luck in too many places
And those who fear are lost

I know that the spades are the swords of a soldier
I know that the clubs are weapons of war
I know that diamonds mean money for this art
But that's not the shape of my heart
That's not the shape of my heart

reine de saba

18-05-2008, 13:03

has anyone mentioned Jody Shields The Fig Eater?

A bit in the vein of The Interpretation of Murder that's out right now, but more stream of consciousness, the novel is based on Freud's Dora case turned into a murder mystery in Vienna.

You have an a young English au pair trying to solve the case and she develops an ambiguous friendship with a woman who reads the cards, joining her in her efforts. Her husband happens to be the main detective on the case and knows nothing of her parallel efforts.

You often have scenes of the two ladies in the Konditorei, the elder throwing cards for the younger.

A nice ride.