View Full Version : Aleister crowley's Big-screen play split from 'Aleister Crowley Thoth Deck' thread
Nocturnal Lure
18-12-2005, 20:53
Well there have been rumours of a movie about Crowley's life for some time now.
Aleister crowley - comes to the Big Screen.
Here is the latest on the up and coming screen play of Aleister crowley's Life - Revolt of the Magicians*
http://www.revoltofthemagicians.com/press.html
I have just had some more information on this film, and as confirmed that the Revolt of the Magician should be released between 2006 - 07 the film had problems with script changes
The role of Aleister Crowley - is to remain a secret untill the films release. I was also told that the film will include an Original Tarot deck called the Sangreal, which is a very rare copy of the Thoth deck that was used in the film.
Crowley would never have seen a Sangrall version of the Thoth.
He was dead by the time it was made.
Hi Lillie,
Thats interesting i was told that the film as a rare Tarot deck shown whether this is a sort of History thing in the film after his Death I assume.
Films never get stuff right anyway.
I hope they make him sexy. Cos he was, sort of.
Which Actor could take on A.C.
Who would be your leading actor for the role of Aleister crowley, i was thinking someone with the same humour and wit as stephen fry, crowley had a wicked sense of humour.
Did anyone check out the company making this film... I did and am very afraid this movie is gonna suck :( Also having a secret actor play Crowley, is kind of worrying... Please let it not be someone left over from a reality TV show they did earlier :( :( :( (yes I am feeling pessimistic today :D)
My guess is that the film company will try and make money out of it, they said that the response from the public was incredible. So i guess they may put some effort into this film.
ShekinahMoon
19-12-2005, 13:28
Hi Lillie,
Who would be your leading man for the role of Aleister crowley, i was thinking someone with the same humour and wit as stephen fry, i think crowley had a wicked sense of humour.
Johnny Depp would be my choice. At one point I would have thought Depp could not pull off the flamboyancy, wit and piercing truth of Crowley but after seeing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory I know Depp could pull it off.
Well i still think actor Stephen fry has more wit and humour in his little finger then Johnny Depp, although after watching him in that film you could be right. Haha
If it were going to be a GOOD film (which I doubt very much, if they are showing the wrong deck....) I'd like it to be :love: Alan Rickman :love: - he would be brilliant. But if it's going to suck, I wouldn't want his name associated with it; he's never been in rubbish yet. My hero.... Sigh.... (cheers up in spite of shingles !)
PS crumbs. Just went to that website. The action/adventure screenplay written by Crowley and occult expert and author Lon DuQuette and Cinemagic founder Jim Bratkowsky is based on actual characters and events surrounding the destruction of Edwardian England’s most powerful and notorious magical societies.
How did this combo manage to write a screenplay ? I am getting a very bad feeling. (They don't mean that - which is an example of how sloppy it looks! If you go to the main site, there's more....)
It also says The film brings to the screen young Crowley’s magical training, experiments with demons and shapeshifters, and the lessons he needs to battle some of the most famous and powerful magicians in England, including Bram Stoker, creator of Dracula, Florence Farr, the most glamorous and famous actress of the London stage and Irish poet William Butler Yeats.Nothing suggests the Sangreal deck here. But maybe they could show Yeats' deck - I always wanted to see that..... not that I thought Yeats was a magician - he was just a member of the Rosicrucians. It sounds worse the more I read.....
oh...Crowley on screen? well, well!
I want to see A.E.Waite who speaks that strange language which is not unlike Latinized English. I recommend Mike Myers in his role (might be better for Crowley himself?) If the movie is going to be a serious one, I expect Althea Gyles on screen.
Julianne Moore would make a fetching and intelligent Florence Farr...but again, not if the production is going to be a dud!
Anyway here is some more details for the film - Revolt of the Magicians*
This is the same website looking for Actor's to play the role of A.Crowley, which as listed some of the Actor's they were intreseted in.
http://www.revoltofthemagicians.com/contest.html
The thing with Stephen Fry is that he is so Stephen Fry.
I don't think I could get past that. I've never seen him being anything other than himself (especially as Jeeves)
And that nose! How did he do that?
Depp. I would have said no, but having recently seen fear and Loathing, and trailers for the Libertine, well, I guess he could be just about anyone!
My choice?
No idea.
If this film is the death of the golden dawn, then it has to be young Crowley, not Toad Crowley.
Really I'd like to see someone English play the part of the worlds greatest Englishman (Forget Nelson, he just played with boats) But I'm biased.
I'll hate the film anyhow, so it don't really matter.
Well i'm not really sure about Depp could pull it off, he's just not Humorous enough for me, and i have seen The 9th Gate and i wasn't impressed with his acting in that film.
I think maybe Sean Bean the English actor might be a better choice, but he can be abit aggressive in his acting. And i was joking about Stephen fry your right i couldn't get past him playing that role although he was good at using his sharp wit when playing Oscar Wilde.
Mr Bean?
No, he'll always be Sharpe. Rough and northern.
Not nearly posh enough.
Yes, 9th gate wasn't Depps best (to me). But he was very pretty in it.
From other films it does seem he can act.
I suppose some unknown would avoid all this. But would they be able to act?
ShekinahMoon
20-12-2005, 12:26
oh...Crowley on screen? well, well!
I want to see A.E.Waite who speaks that strange language which is not unlike Latinized English. I recommend Mike Myers in his role (might be better for Crowley himself?) If the movie is going to be a serious one, I expect Althea Gyles on screen.
Mike Myers as Crowley? Myers does not have enough depth to bring to screen the tormented battle that raged within Crowley's soul.
ShekinahMoon
20-12-2005, 12:29
Anyway here is some more details for the film - Revolt of the Magicians*
This is the same website looking for Actor's to play the role of A.Crowley, which as listed some of the Actor's they were intreseted in.
http://www.revoltofthemagicians.com/contest.html
After going to that link and looking at those comparison pictures of Crowley and Jude Law...I vote for Jude Law. Can he act though?
Hi Shekinhmoon,
I have thought about this and judging from his past film roles in Gattaca and Enemy at the gates, i think i'am in agreement with you on this. I have seen him play alot of challenging films in the past and i think he has that same intensity and intellectual quality that is needed to play Crowleys persona.
I really think he could pass for a young Crowley and could play a very English Aristocratic Gentleman, well so to speak.
After going to that link and looking at those comparison pictures of Crowley and Jude Law...I vote for Jude Law. Can he act though?No he can't. He is Jude Law. That was OK the first couple of times as you could sort of believe he was acting, but the more you see him the more you realise that he can only do Jude !
ShekinahMoon
21-12-2005, 21:08
No he can't. He is Jude Law. That was OK the first couple of times as you could sort of believe he was acting, but the more you see him the more you realise that he can only do Jude !
I see. Then he won't do if he can't act multiple roles. Which is why I'm such a fan of Johnny Depp. He can do multiple roles and some sinister. Ever see Secret Window. That was weird.
Very interesting with everyone's view's on Aleister crowleys new film
http://www.revoltofthemagicians.com/press.html
And these are the Actor's that could play Aleister in Revolt of the Magicians*
http://www.revoltofthemagicians.com/contest.html
Well i did like his role in Edward scissors hand which was the only film he was quite humorous in, but could he be seen has an English eccentric.
ShekinahMoon
22-12-2005, 11:45
Well i did like his role in Edward scissors hand which was the only film he was quite humorous in, but could he be seen has an English eccentric.
Well Depp plays eccentric very well. Johnny Depp did play the life story of the author of Peter Pan and the author was Scottish and lived during Crowley's era. And this man seemed to be quite eccentric. So Depp played ecentric and 19th century European. He could do Crowley. :)
the problem is to go past Depp's pretty looks. i'd really like to see a not-so-famous-for-his-looks actor playing the role, otherwise it won't be credible.
plus i don't think he looks like Crowley that much.
it would definitely have to be a british actor, i quite second somebody's vote for Stephen Fry. Lucky man, first Oscar Wilde than Crowley... that would be quite an achievement.
please, please no Jude Law, let him have all the tabloid first pages but NOT Crowley's role. anyway he too is far more too good looking in a cold-beauty way. not my style.
kissa
Crowley was very pretty when he was young, before drugs and high and low living took their toll. Johnny Depp does good character acting - he goes far beyond the pretty face, I'm sure he would manage Crowley. But if a British actor can be found that fits the bill, that would be fine. Trouble is, Crowley really was larger than life and stranger than fiction...
I think Stephen Fry would be much too old as this story is supposed to be about Crowley at the age of 30. Also, he's not sporty-looking enough. Remember Crowley was an ace mountaineer.
So far we have had alot of interesting idea's and view's on which Actor should play Aleister Crowley's - film role in Revolt of the Magician.
I have done a list below of each A.T persons wanted Leading - Actor and Actress - for this Screenplay.
Deanres - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Jude Law possible
Gregory - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Alan Rickman
Helvetica - Leading Actress for Florence Farr Screenplay - Julianne Moore
Shekinah
Moon - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Johnny Depp
Lillie - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Depp or Jude possible
Roppo - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Althea Gyles
Kissa - Leading Actor for A. Crowley's Screenplay - Stephen Fry
ShekinahMoon
23-12-2005, 01:31
the problem is to go past Depp's pretty looks. i'd really like to see a not-so-famous-for-his-looks actor playing the role, otherwise it won't be credible.
plus i don't think he looks like Crowley that much.
it would definitely have to be a british actor, i quite second somebody's vote for Stephen Fry. Lucky man, first Oscar Wilde than Crowley... that would be quite an achievement.
please, please no Jude Law, let him have all the tabloid first pages but NOT Crowley's role. anyway he too is far more too good looking in a cold-beauty way. not my style.
kissa
I can see benefits of a non-famous actor. This would put the focus on the character and not the actor. I'm not sure if looking like Crowley is that vital. Hollywood make up does wonders. But I do admit Depp looks like Depp in every movie he does. His look does not change very much. But his acting skills are great.
A British actor playing Crowley makes a lot of sense. He can bring to the screen the embedded English culture and accent an American actor could not. Now that I think about it...I vote for a British actor instead of Depp. Ahhh that embedded American arrogance we have. Of course a British actor should play Crowley.
I dont think it matter's if an American - French or anyother Nationality Actor get's the part of A.Crowley, what's important is how well they could been seen as Crowley him self.
I agree Hollywood is fantastic with their make-up these day's so any Actor who may not resemble A.Crowley would have no problems in that department.