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catlin
29-03-2006, 17:47
Hi there,
Do you have any suggestion what to use for a hurting elbow? I suppose I have some trouble with the joint and doc only prescribed pain killer and a salve but no improvement. He thinks it is caused by the typing (I did not hurt my elbow and normally arthritis or the like are not in my family).

I use "Teufelskralle" (don't know the English word, it's a plant which is said to work well on joints) and silicea globuli together with a tiger eye bracelet.

redflash
29-03-2006, 18:25
Have you heard of Infinity stones? Funny looking pebbles, they are supposed to work wonders for aching joints. New age shops should have them. A garlic vinegar compress might also help. Hope you're feeling better soon. x

catlin
29-03-2006, 20:00
Hi redflash,
Thanks for the suggestions. Garlic vinegar is ok, but I have never heard about Infinity stones (and I am pretty sure I don't get these ones here as the local meta stores here are run by rather unexperienced ppl).

memries
29-03-2006, 20:30
catlin....put your hands together and rub them until you have some energy going and then put your healthy hand over the area of inflammation on your elbow and all over. Slowly, very slowly and resting between, move your hand down your arm from top to bottom. You are trying to get the energy to move. It is all energy or when in pain a blockage of that energy.
If you can, start on your good arm first and if not do the sore arm but it is important to balance your two arms. It is lack of balance also that causes stress to the tissues.
If you meditate then do that but bring in a healing light (green) and picture it going through your body.
This can help a lot and certainly gives comfort. I suppose you could call it a form of self Reiki. Let me know..memries

catlin
29-03-2006, 21:12
Thanks, memries, I tried something similar yesterday and matters grew worse :( (I found out that it is not wise to use a kind of Reiki on inflammation, at least not for me). What is your opinion on this? I am not so much of a Reiki person so I am not sure if Reiki really has a negative effect on inflammation or if this is just something how I react to it.

I think I will go home for today and put a kind of cool pack on the elbow and try the garlic vinegar rub.

Ruby7
29-03-2006, 21:40
If massage made it worse then heat is not the way to go. When joints are inflammed they can be further aggravated by massage and heat.

An ice pack should help to bring the inflammation down. It sounds like your elbow needs some rest also, try not to use it too much. Gentle stretching exercises may also help.

Hope it feels better soon.

ruby7

catlin
29-03-2006, 21:50
Thanks, Ruby7, so off to home with me, no computer, but cold pack instead!!

Dark Inquisitor
29-03-2006, 23:01
(((((((Sorry to hear you're hurting !! ))))))))

I can only say what is working for me for physical pain:

MSM, cayenne, oregano, olive , garlic , holy basil and sarsaparilla capsules . With Advil, of course .

Sometimes with pain in one area only it has its' origins in a different part of the body , or in the position in which we sleep , so that might be worth thinking about .

Horace
29-03-2006, 23:47
I have problems with the joint at the base of my thumb. I use clary sage oil or arnica rub on my hands a lot. But I will reach for my copper bracelet with magnetic tips before I reach for the OTC pill. Try one for pain. Whether it works, or you just think it works, it counts when the pain is gone. I've also been desperate enough to use a refrigerator magnet directly on the joint! LOL

I use arnica flower heads (buy dried organic if you have to) chopped fine and put them into warmed mineral oil. Set the jar somewhere warm. I use the water heater closet. Shake it every 2-3 days for 2 weeks, Strain through some muslin if you like and store covered. It's similar to making a tincture, but with oil instead of wood-grain alcohol.

Cayenne pepper sprinkled on a warm wet cloth, applied directly to the elbow soaks into the skin. Make sure no broken skin. Skiers use cayenne in their socks to draw the blood to the surface of the small capillaries near the skin. Now they manufacture stay warm products with cayenne pepper. Tabasco sauce works too.
And don't forget all purpose Epsom Salts.
Good Luck :) Hh

catlin
30-03-2006, 17:27
Thanks a bunch for all your helpful advice. I found out that the cold pack was ok (seems this elbow trouble responds better to cold than to warm).

Thanks also for the idea with the Cayenne pepper socks. I will keep that in mind when I have my reading booth on the Sylvester fair in winter. :)

Gaby
31-03-2006, 22:25
If you can, wear a ruby on your left hand.

Ruby Red Slippers
31-03-2006, 22:38
catlin:

I have fround a wonderful gel for fabulous pain relief & have told all my friends who are also having good luck with it - TRAUMEEL - & it is made in Germany!

It is non-greasy, has no smell & IT WORKS!!!

Internally - glucosamine with MSN works for inflammation & pain respectively.

Hope you are feeling better soon!


RRS

Catmoon
01-04-2006, 01:02
What about bee poison or venen(don't know if we sould say like this) did you tried that already? It's a very powerfull pain killer and anti-inflammatory, but be VERY CAREFULL if you have heart deseases or if your allergic, so don't use it without proper advice.
Check it out, but hope your better now.

catlin
03-04-2006, 22:51
@ Ruby Red Slippers: Yep, Traumeel was one of the salves I had at home and tried this one out but somehow it did not work on this darn elbow.

@ catmoon: I was not sure about trying Abies globuli (bee venom) on this one as I don't know if the elbow is just sprained or if there is something like arthritis going on.

Guess I have to make an appointment with doc and have the elbow scanned or X-rayed.

majah kahlana
03-04-2006, 23:47
Hi there
i have Fibromyalgia and a host of other issues but what helps me with the joints aching is celadrin... basically its fatty acids.. dont know if that would qualify as an herbal remedy or not but i do get it at my local health-food store.
Hope this helps
MK

catlin
06-04-2006, 23:20
Hi folks, I used the Infinity stone I got from redflash and I am indeed feeling better now, thanks, dear redflash!!!

raeanne
07-04-2006, 03:21
Hi Catlin,
I am not a doctor and I am not giving medical advice. I can only tell you what works for me.

Shark cartilage is one of the best things for my bones, joints, tendons, and muscles! I use it mostly for reoccurring tendonitis. I have tried many other remedies but nothing works as well as shark cartilage. Most drug stores will carry this on the shelf of natural vitamins and minerals. I usually take two capsules in the morning and two capsules again before bedtime. I get relief fairly quickly, usually by the next day. I continue taking shark cartilage for a day or two after my symptoms disappear.

I also have bouts with gout. (Sounds poetic; bout of gout.) Celery seed works wonders! I had a bad case of gout so I decided to try this. I went to my spice rack and poured about a quarter of a teaspoon of celery seed in my hand and popped it into my mouth. Well, these little seeds went everywhere and it was a bit difficult to get them swallowed. They are also very bitter. I should have wrapped them in a bit of cheese or something. I did this about three times that day and by morning I was nearly back to normal. I could still feel a bit of stiffness but there was no pain! Again, I continued for a day or two afterwards.

I hope you get relief soon!

catlin
07-04-2006, 18:19
@raeanne: Thanks a bunch for this suggestion, I will write it down in my BoS. I hope I will never suffer from gout because this is pretty painful.

I am feeling much better now and after a few days off the boards with some rest to my elbow I will be as good as new.

geministar
08-05-2006, 14:37
I dont know if this will help you much but I get achy joints and I have a tablespoon of flaxseed oil each night. The healthy fats are good for joint problems and arthritis. Fish oil is another one but I havent used that. I also like to go to the gym a couple times a week which gets the blood flowing (I sit at a desk at work all day) and I find that really helps also. When Im not taking the flaxseed oil I can really notice the difference, because its then that I start aching again and its my warning to go get more flaxseed oil.

sharpchick
09-05-2006, 02:39
If you work with essential oils, try this one for aching muscles and joints.

Equal parts tea tree oil, eucalyptus and rosemary. Five or six drops in a steamy bath. . . I find it marvelous and always keep some on hand.

Psyndi
09-05-2006, 02:50
Yet another idea. When I get cold, things ache. I wear a lightweight wool shawl, not a common fashion accessory, when my back aches. And when my elbow aches, along with aspirin, I try keeping the joint from being cold. That's different from heating it. Try cutting the cuff from an old wool sock or an otherwise worn out sweatshirt or jumper, and pull it up around your elbow. I really don't like being too warm, but have found if I can isolate the spot and keep the cool off, it helps alot.

Ankou
09-05-2006, 02:59
An old arthritis balm I have written down to try is equal parts rosemary, lavender, and marigold. I've seen a few homeopathic arthritis balms and oils with these ingredients at health fairs. Haven't actually tried the mix since figuring out how to make balms, but with achy joints and arthritis in the family, I'm growing all the ingredients this spring for a fall batch.

I also highly recommend Glucosamine Chondrointin, which you've probably already been told about by someone. It is a saturation treatment and so takes a few weeks to really start working, but it really does work incredibly well. I have a good friend who has been able to put off knee replacement for 4 years because of GC use.

Cheers!

PS, I'm definately looking into the shark cartalage thing, how odd and useful!

tmgrl2
09-05-2006, 04:03
I'm back on glucosamine....stopped it for a long time, and when I started it again, after a time, it was a subtle but noticeable difference...Stopped it while I was in the hospital....am back on it now.

I use ice for inflammation. I use heat to "loosen up" before movement.

The Physical Therapists have me icing most joints and that works for me...especially shoulder and elbow...hands I massage gently in palm as I watch tv...this helps, too. I also get a massage twice a month. REALLY helps since we target areas.

When I have a severe episode of back/neck/shoulder pain...I take two Celebrex at once, just for one day. It knocks out the pain that day.

Otherwise I don't take any meds for it.

Pepper....a good pain reliever...



I always keep RICE in mind....for flareups.

Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

With my sports activities all my life, this is always a good routine to follow with post activity flareups.

terri

Psyndi
09-05-2006, 15:22
I always keep RICE in mind....for flareups.

Rest
Ice
Compression
Elevation

With my sports activities all my life, this is always a good routine to follow with post activity flareups.

terri

Thanks for sharing this! Makes it easy to remember what to do for injuries.

catlin
09-05-2006, 21:05
Thanks guys, for all the great suggestions :) Elbow is still hurting a bit but as long as I can shuffle cards, I think I am ok.

midnightmerry
10-05-2006, 04:04
Hello Catlin, in addition to all the great oils/balm suggestions you've been getting (and I've been taking note of!), here are some crystals/stones that might help:

Apatite, Clevelandite, and Dolomite all help alleive problems with joints/bones. Selenite helps with 'disorders of the skeletal system' and Charoite helps with aches and pains. Also, I think a quartz crystal and/or any crystal in 'skeletal' structure will help according to the principals of like magick. There are others of course, but these came to mind and maybe carrying or keeping some of them near will help. Also I think magnets have already been mentioned. Magnets in their 'rough' form work just as well, if not better.

Psyndi
12-05-2006, 05:22
Catlin, Is there any chance you have a case of "tennis elbow"?

If so, there is a simple brace you can wrap around your arm below the elbow. It prevents the tendons from complete extension, allowing the tendons to heal.

Tennis elbow is a delightful repetitive motion injury. Perhaps you are shuffling TOO much? You might substitute mixing the cards on the tabletop for awhile.

Just a thought???

memries
12-05-2006, 05:49
Catlin.. sorry you feel the Reiki did not help. Reiki is not massage, in fact, you never touch the person or it is a choice if you do or do not. Rather you would gently move the energy down to get it flowing again and to equalize both arms, you do both arms.
Pain is definitely energy that is somehow blocked. I did not used to believe this but now I do. By doing Reiki on both arms you encourage entrainment which equalizes the movement of both arms the same way. The sore arm equalizes with the healthy arm.
For sure if someone is sore I do not touch them. My son in law was suffering with his shoulder and I treated him and he called me the next day and said the swelling was gone and he felt a lot better. He was on pills as well so I am not claiming credit for the whole thing but I do think that getting the energy to move is the secret of Reiki. We do not realize that everything is energy or blocked energy. I find that fact totally amazing.
When I flew out West to Vancouver I ate oysters and got gout. When I flew home I did not eat anything fishy and got gout. Someone at the hospital had said to me
you can get gout from flying but of course I did not give that remark much credibility but now I think they were right so, I am going to remember what Reanne said and next time, if any, go for the celery seed.

Sherringham
12-05-2006, 08:50
Catlin, you really must try the doctor to determine what is the matter, if its rsi you need to rest it, if its arthritis you need something to stop the inflammation. I do have an arthritic elbow which flares from time to time and a Bioflow magnetic bracelet helps the most. If its rsi all the ligaments/ tendons etc need rest and support while they heal. Putting anything on the joint itself especially massage makes all the fluids fill the joint and you get more pain.

Balsamo
12-05-2006, 08:53
I'm recovering from knee and shoulder injuries - a training injury, and an old fall rock climbing - and over the past 3 years, I've had great results with Glucosamine.

catlin
12-05-2006, 19:03
Catlin, Is there any chance you have a case of "tennis elbow"?

Well, that was what the physician in our company thought. He gave me some pretty heavy medication and recommended seeing an orthopaedic specialist. I did not go to the orthopaedic specialist because I don't want a cast or some other heavy medication.

I don't think the tennis elbow comes from shuffling but from the office work. I have been typing for 15 years and I think this has caused the trouble with my elbow. My elbow does not hurt when I am shuffling cards, only when I type at the computer.

TemperanceAngel
12-05-2006, 19:13
Oh my goodness can you believe just read it today!!
Lepidolite (my new baby) if made in an elixir can help with aching joints. Amazing eh?

cheekyminx
12-05-2006, 19:36
Fish oil tablets

sharpchick
12-05-2006, 22:46
Well, that was what the physician in our company thought. He gave me some pretty heavy medication and recommended seeing an orthopaedic specialist. I did not go to the orthopaedic specialist because I don't want a cast or some other heavy medication.

I don't think the tennis elbow comes from shuffling but from the office work. I have been typing for 15 years and I think this has caused the trouble with my elbow. My elbow does not hurt when I am shuffling cards, only when I type at the computer.

Could it be carpal tunnel syndrome? I know that's more often found in the wrists, but if you hold them at a strange angle to compensate, could be it has caused problems with the elbow. . .

GoddessArtemis
13-05-2006, 00:35
catlin:

I have the same problem...my left elbow kills me with shooting pains when I type or hold the phone. I tried ice packs for a while, but once the coldness wore off, the pain was back.

A dear friend on AT suggested an herbal remedy, and while I've not had much luck with those in the past...I dunno why, but this one works!

It's a gel you can buy at health food stores, called Arnica. It's specifically used for inflamed joints and arthiritis-like pain. I bought some and whenever I feel the pain in my elbow, I spread a thin layer on (it's non-greasy, stainless, odorless, and absorbs very quickly; as a bonus, it has an instant 'cooling' sensation at first which provides instant pain relief)...and within a few minutes--presto! Pain is so much less!

Hope you can buy some. It really does work!

GA

midnightmerry
13-05-2006, 04:41
catlin:

..I dunno why, but this one works!

It's a gel you can buy at health food stores, called Arnica. It's specifically used for inflamed joints and arthiritis-like pain.

Hope you can buy some. It really does work!

GA

(side note: Everyone that is posting all of these remedies- thank you!! My husband suffers from both of his shoulders being 'frozen' and he's tried everything from physical therapy to balms to help the condition. Your posts are giving me good ideas for things for him to try.)

Catlin, I was wondering about carpal tunnel syndrome too. I used to do heavy typing and got it with a vengence. It hurt all the way up my arm. Now I just get a touch of it when I do a lot of knitting.

catlin
13-05-2006, 04:57
It's a gel you can buy at health food stores, called Arnica. It's specifically used for inflamed joints and arthiritis-like pain. I bought some and whenever I feel the pain in my elbow, I spread a thin layer on (it's non-greasy, stainless, odorless, and absorbs very quickly; as a bonus, it has an instant 'cooling' sensation at first which provides instant pain relief)...and within a few minutes--presto! Pain is so much less!

Hope you can buy some. It really does work!

GA

Hi GA,
I have tried this one on the first few days and unfortunately, it did not work in that case for me. I always have Arnica gel at home, is great for bruises (I have a coffee table with darn sharp edges and sometimes I knock my shins on it when I am too quick with getting up) or scratches (I have a very lively tomcat who likes bouncing and climbing on me, I am glad not all of my cats do that).