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Butterfly
15-02-2002, 12:04
As a cancer/leo cuspie (well leo by two hours to be exact) i'm always fascinated by how people address the cusp issue.
Everyone has different theories as to the true sun sign, I feel i'm a hefty dose of both. It would hurt me to believe otherwise.
It's hard to form an astrological identity when every book has you as a different sign. This can be a real advantage though- I read cancer and leo horoscopes and pick the best day/week/month (Shame on me, I know).
Does anyone else have the same problem? How do you deal with it?
Belinda
Hi Butterfly!
I think you deal with it well enough! :D
Actually I wasn't born on the cusp, but I think more or less anyone as the same problem as you have.
In fact, the astrological identity is not uniquely identified by Sun Sign - you know there's plenty other aspects and positions that make us feel scattered all over the Zodicac! :)
For example, I have always wondered if it wasn't more correct to listen to the Rising horoscope rather than the Sun Sign - surely the situation might have been closer to the birth chart, right?
My problem, however, is that I have a respectable part of each element in the birth chart. Well, you'll say, you're balanced. Hell, I say, I'm not! :D
I really get so puzzled at times!!! My Gemini streak, strong enough, is quite frequent. But as soon as I'm offended I turn into an Aries (Moon) or Scoprio (Rising) as I have Mars (gov) conjuncted with my natal Sun.
My idea of love is absolute (4th house in Pisces!!!) but I'm a lone wolf, independent and really concerned with self-fulfillment and affirmation.
I could go on, but that would be useless.
To sum up, anyone has this problem: to deal with the different Male/Female polarity. Some do quite well, and get balanced, other (like me) are competely disproportionate and without control.
As for your being a cusp, hey! It's not such a pain in the...
Cusps will surely have a more dynamic and active life than mine! :D And, why don't you try making your own horoscope? Taking into account your Sun, Moon, Venus and all?
Blessed you be by the stars!
AquarianGoddess
16-02-2002, 06:54
Pollux,
You're so honest and I always enjoy reading your posts!
P.S. I lend you my Scorpio Moon anytime you want.
AG
Scorpion
17-02-2002, 06:49
Hi, Butterfly!
I'm on the cusp of Scorpio and Saggitarius. Mostly horoscopes put me under Scorp, but I have seen some that have me down as a Saggy. I am, however, about 90% Scorp - which is probably enough for anybody! Some situations bring out the Saggy in me - particularly as I've got my moon in Leo so there is a bit of fire in there......
I have to say I like being a cusp case - no complaints from me!
butterfly,
have you had your chart done accurately.........are you sure which sign you are?
just curious.
:)
in light,
jade
Butterfly
18-02-2002, 10:03
Jade-Yep, I've had it done. The sun changed from Cancer to Leo (00deg10')two hours before my birth.
As for the other positions my moon is also in cusp (Taurus 0 deg 13'),
Rising- Sag
Merc- Cancer
Venus- Leo
Mars- Aries
Jupiter- Aquarius
saturn- Gemini
Uranus- Libra
Nept- Sag
Pluto- Libra
I don't mind the cusp- I think it encouraged me to explore astrology a little more, and still maintain a degree of independence.
I dont haunt these grounds usually, but Im a Sagi/Capi cusp (Yule child hehe) and Im definately Sagi, about 90% at least. My husband is a Leo/Virgo cusp (hows THAT for perfect date compatability lol) and he's definately Leo, tho he usually wont call himself either/or, he's both. I read bothhoroscopes as well, and I read both of his too hehe. another interesting thing, my first daughter was born December 20 (day before I turned 21, no alcohol in the hospital hehe), and my other daughter was born August 16, so my famiy is 2 Leos and 2 Sagis, come to think of it those 2 Leos may be a problem later lol
Butterfly
19-02-2002, 12:56
Ooh, now that will be a lot of fun. Two leos- lot of ego for a little family.
I'm lucky- my little one is a libra- she charms me to pieces, makes me her slave and still manages to make me feel grateful for letting me help her! I'll be adding a little virgo to the family later in the year, hopefully they'll get on well, but to be truthful the idea of a virgo child terrifies me!!
purplelady
20-02-2002, 06:33
Butterfly , don't fret. My oldest child is a virgo and he is like my favorite person in the whole world! (Well , except for my other child of course!). From day one he was quiet , content , happy , rarely cried , and almost everybody likes him! I'm serious.
purplelady
20-02-2002, 06:40
However , you really can't peg virgo the way the books do . (Nor Capricorns). Virgos are supposed to be fanatically clean , neat , organized , and critical , right? Well , I have a really good virgo friend who is the sweetest person in the world , but I've Never seen a house as in dire need of cleaning and organizing as hers! (ouch!) also I can tell her almost anything and she isn't critical! So how do you explain that! ?
sapienza
20-02-2002, 17:46
Liliana (19 Feb, 2002 12:54):
I dont haunt these grounds usually, but Im a Sagi/Capi cusp (Yule child hehe) and Im definately Sagi, about 90% at least. My husband is a Leo/Virgo cusp (hows THAT for perfect date compatability lol) and he's definately Leo, tho he usually wont call himself either/or, he's both. I read bothhoroscopes as well, and I read both of his too hehe. another interesting thing, my first daughter was born December 20 (day before I turned 21, no alcohol in the hospital hehe), and my other daughter was born August 16, so my famiy is 2 Leos and 2 Sagis, come to think of it those 2 Leos may be a problem later lol
Liliana,
I'm also a Sag/Cap cusp. I was born the same day as your first daughter (20 Dec). I'm very much a Sag but there are strong Capricorn traits that raise their head at what seems like always the most difficult time. I always felt like rather a tormented soul, but looking at Astrology and my birthchart and the whole Sag/Cap think has really helped me make sense of things. I've got a lot of each sign in my chart eg. Cap rising, mercury in Sag so both are quite strong. To me it's always seemed like the two are very hard to reconcile. The two parts of me are satisfied by very different things.
Life is always interesting though!
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AquarianGoddess
21-02-2002, 06:58
I'm sorry to burst everyone's bubble :(
The cusp thing is a fallacy. A person can only be ONE sun sign, not two. If you're a zero degrees Gemini, then you're a Gemini, not a Gemini/Taurus (the sign before Gemini). If one is showing Taurus qualities, one may have a Taurus Moon, ascendant, Mercury, Venus or Mars; meaning one may have another planet in that sign that's responsible for those qualities.
However, we're all entitled to our own beliefs and if it makes one feel better to believe in cusps, go for it! :-D
Butterfly
21-02-2002, 10:57
Ooh, Aquarian Goddess, you wound me.
I like to believe that my Leo vanity, extravagance and drama is nicely moderated by my Cancerian tendencies. And it's definately not exagerated by my Taurus moon. Uh uh, no way!
NO NO NO, Butterfly!
Surely your Moon in Taurus bears more Cancerian attributes than Leo ones.
The Moon is in Exaltation (exl) in Taurus, which means that, if in Cancer she feels home, in Taurus she's even organized a party there! :D
Really, this position surely has the influence you want to attribute to your "cancerin" half...
That, apart from a STRONG Moon in Taurus (check the aspects for her strength :) ) don't seem to be identifiable otherwise.
After all, you also have a Cancer-Mercury, that gives much of sensitivety, intuition and dreaminess...
Try meditating on your chart...
However, don't underestimate Leos... they surely are tender, giving, sensitive and affectionate beings!
ag,
that's what i thought too.
thanks for the info.
jade :)
Major Tom
22-02-2002, 19:06
I have to agree with AquarianGoddess. I'm on the leo side of a Leo/Virgo cusp, but I'm definitely a Leo. I do have Mercury in Virgo which tends to make me sound critical in my communications! Oops! :D
But with 5 :o planets in Leo - I'm definitely Leo! For interest I've got my moon in Scorpio and a Taurus ascendent. Really interesting because my girlfriend has her sun in Aries with Scorpio ascendent and Taurus moon. How's that for a match! :D