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Sophie
26-09-2006, 21:50
...what do I do next?

I've cleansed it with clear quartz. It's beautifully polished. How else do I care for it?

I've never done scrying, far less with obsidian. Do I have to charge it before?

How do I start, when, where, what precautions do I take, what can I expect, what state of mind should I be in?

(moderators: I'm not sure if this should go under crystals or divination - I'll let you decide)

sharpchick
26-09-2006, 22:56
Helvetica, I use the same sort of preparation for scrying that I do for meditation. I usually scry by candlelight. Sometimes I cast a circle, but I always smudge the area with sage. If you are using obsidian, you have some "built in" protection against negative energy. I see scrying as entering the spirit world, so I feel like you need to take whatever means of protection you feel is best.

Get as comfortable as you can. If you are successful (which you might not be at first), you may be sitting for a while.

Look into the surface of the stone lit by the glow of the candles. At first you'll probably just see your own face, but let your eyes "de-focus." (Is that a word?) Don't try to keep from blinking - it's not supposed to be torture.

At first, all I saw was fog, a sort of slow moving mist. After about the third or fourth time, I noticed I saw the fog forming almost immediately, then flashes of images - some were completely unrecognizable as people or things. When an image starts to form, the fog still stays, but seems to cradle the image as the picture emerges.

I will sit until there are no more images, or until the only one that appears fades. Then, still by candlelight, I journal what I've seen and meditate on that. I usually ground myself by eating a few bites of something I've bought into the room with me and afterward is when I snuff the candles and turn on the light. (One of the things I noticed is that if I immediately get up and turn on the light after I'm finished with the stone or other scrying tool, I feel really off-center. It's like I need to gradually return.)

That's just me though. I'm sure others have different methods.

chrisam-crystals
26-09-2006, 23:39
oh helevetica.....you lucky so and so!

where did you get it from?

how much was it?

have you got a pic?

so excited for you...............can you tell? :D

jue xx

Sulis
26-09-2006, 23:45
Ooh that sounds very nice...

I use a rainbow obsidian sphere for scrying and also for absorbing negative energy.. I've found it works wonders for backache if you hold it over the area...

As Sharpchick has said, I prepare for scrying much like I prepare for meditation yet I usually cast a circle when I'm scrying.
I use frankincense to cleanse the area as I'm not too good with sage..

Not sure how you'd care for an obsidian scrying mirror other than what you've already done.. I don't tend to charge my sphere although I think I did leave it on the windowledge under the full moon when I first got it.

You'll have to let us know how you get on... I find obsidian to be so grounding and calming - lovely stone.

celticnoodle
27-09-2006, 00:09
helvetica, congrats on your new purchase and you'll have to be sure to let us know if you have luck with it! sharpchick has offered some great advice that I have heard from others as well. I wonder if sharpchick charges her stone or other scrying object in moonlight? I have been told to do this with mine, and have also been told it is best to do so during a full moon. Also, to keep it covered with a soft black or dark cloth when not in use---which I do, but is this definately necessary, sharpchick? Sometimes I think about keeping it out on a table where everyone can see it! I think it's so beautiful, I want to share it. I do keep sage near by all the time, and am in the process of drying some sage that I've grown this year to use also. In addition to the sage for protection, I keep religious medals around, (it at least helps me to stay fearless & feel protected).

Chrisam-crystals, I've seen some items of this sort on ebay---if you are interested, you may find just what you are looking for!

Sulis, I've never heard of using a rainbow obsidian sphere for absorbing negative energy and helping w/backaches--so, once again, I've learned something new here on this site. I wonder if it would help with backaches during pregnancy and childbirth--i have a friend who is pregnant, will mention it to her, though her mother is a healer. I'll have to contact her mother to see if she knows of this/uses this as well. I may just invest in a rainbow sphere to have on hand. How can one find out (any book you can recommend?) about other spheres that helps with other ailments? thanks.

Sophie
27-09-2006, 00:12
Thanks for the explanations!

I'm very excited. It's beautiful - I also love obsidian. Now that we are getting into Autumnal mood, I also feel the need to do some deep healing work, and obsidian is ideal for that. I've put in on my altar, on a little stand, in the North corner. I found it quite by chance, at this place (http://www.shamanscrystal.co.uk/Shamanscrystal.sf/?ObjectPath=/Shops/ShamansCrystals/Products/%22Odsidian%20Mirror%22)

- except that mine's not oval but round.

sharpchick
27-09-2006, 01:37
I wonder if sharpchick charges her stone or other scrying object in moonlight? I have been told to do this with mine, and have also been told it is best to do so during a full moon. Also, to keep it covered with a soft black or dark cloth when not in use---which I do, but is this definately necessary, sharpchick? Sometimes I think about keeping it out on a table where everyone can see it! I think it's so beautiful, I want to share it.

My favorite scrying stone is my black obsidian sphere, which I also use and keep on my altar. All the stones on my altar are periodically charged in moonlight, but since I've also got a selenite sphere on the altar, I probably don't charge the working altar stones as frequently as some might. With my working stones, I clear and program them for my intent at the time of use. I don't cover the sphere. I need to have a reason to do things, and that one just doesn't make sense to me in light of using the sphere for so many things.

My second favorite way to scry is with a black bowl full of water - it's a larger surface than the sphere and was easiest to use when I was first beginning.

My third favorite is in the light of the full or waning moon at my sister's pond - it's about a quarter of an acre. I don't get to do this real often, as when I am visiting, there are usually others also who notice me missing and come to look for me.

Sophie
27-09-2006, 02:29
Thanks, celticnoodle - yes it is lovely. Far too lovely to cover up and put away - and not being the most grounded of people, I think having it on my altar in my sitting room will be very useful. I wouldn't have thought that the mirror itself needed protecting, being made of obsidian, which is itself protective (obviously I'll have to handle it delicately!)

Burning sage before using it - good idea. I tend to smudge the area where I cast my circle, and surroundings, with white California sage - I like the smell of it and it's not so difficult to find on the internet. I was thinking of having a go at scrying tomorrow night, as it's a Wednesday, Mercury's day - hopefully it will help communication ;)

What other uses can I put it to, apart from general grounding/protection, backache (good idea!) and scrying?

chrisam-crystals
27-09-2006, 02:31
WOW!

look at that price!!!!

oh how i wish i haven't just paid a month's rent and a year's council tax today!

damn damn damn and double damn......that site is well and truly bookmarked! ;)

jue xx

Sophie
27-09-2006, 02:36
WOW!

look at that price!!!!

oh how i wish i haven't just paid a month's rent and a year's council tax today!

damn damn damn and double damn......that site is well and truly bookmarked! ;)Beg, borrow or steal for that one ;) - I couldn't believe my luck, and it's even more beautiful in real life. I spend my time gazing at it and polishing it, LOL.

sharpchick
27-09-2006, 02:47
That is one gorgeous piece of obsidian. You will get much enjoyment from it.

thinbuddha
27-09-2006, 08:38
This is funny- references to scrying stones keep comming to me these last few days (I suppose it might have something to do with the places I visit on the net, eh?)

I'm not sure that I'm ready to shell out the big bucks for an obsidian stone, but I've seen some rather affordable hand blown glass mirrors. Anyone have any input on this? Would it be worth going for a black glass mirror, or should I keep my money?

http://capricornslair.stores.yahoo.net/4doblcoscmi.html

sharpchick
27-09-2006, 10:09
As long as it is shiny, I'll think it would be fine. That 's why water is also so good for scrying. You can use any really dark blue or black bowl filled with water and get a very good result. I got a black bowl at Wally World for less than a buck and it was what I started with.

That mirror looks to have a pretty nice finish on it. Probably would be an affordable way for you to start.

Sophie
27-09-2006, 16:24
What I like about obsidian - and in the end why I went for that, despite the price (though I got a good deal on it, as you saw), is its intrinsic qualities. I've slowly been working more with black stones. I used to find them too heavy, though I always used to carry a medium-sized hematite around with me for grounding and to ward off the negativity that surrounded me in the places I worked.

But obsidian I only discovered a few months ago. There was a sale of stone hearts going on in some online shop, and one of them was obsidian, so I bought it. I haven't really worked with it actively, but it's beautiful, and I love having it about. I feel solid and anchored when I see it, but at the same time, I feel like there's a whole mysterious world in there to discover. It's a bit like Alice's hole in the ground...

The black obsidian mirror gave me a powerful jolt when I unwrapped it. I was awestruck by its simple beauty, but I was also mesmerised. I used to have an old fear of black abysses - whenever I went through a bad time, I would see a huge black hole trying to suck me in, and I was terrified. After a shamanic workshop during which I journeyed into the abyss and had some powerful, frightening but ultimately healing experiences, this fear has left me, but the fascination hasn't. I feel like it's an adventure...

I read somewhere that obsidian is good for creativity for those reasons - being both grounding and fascinating - it brings visions and draws you into a path of discovery - which is of course invaluable for creators. I am about to start a new book, once I've finished my contract, so I think my obsidian mirror is also something I have at the back of my mind as a kind of pathway for me. In the past, dreams and visions have inspired some of my writing, so I am wondering if scrying might not? It's simple presence near my desk (my altar and my workplace are both in my sitting room) is also inspiring.

Sulis
27-09-2006, 19:53
This is funny- references to scrying stones keep comming to me these last few days (I suppose it might have something to do with the places I visit on the net, eh?)

I'm not sure that I'm ready to shell out the big bucks for an obsidian stone, but I've seen some rather affordable hand blown glass mirrors. Anyone have any input on this? Would it be worth going for a black glass mirror, or should I keep my money?

http://capricornslair.stores.yahoo.net/4doblcoscmi.html

I've used a bowl of water before and I've also used my cauldron - it's cast iron so filled with water it makes a lovely deep black bowl

You can also make a black mirror yourself:
http://astralthyme.com/scrying%20mirror.html
http://users.ipns.com/northstar/Magick/Body/Otherbobbles/blackmirror.htm

I've heard of someone making a curved mirror using the glass out of a washing machined door too.. Just paint one side black (as in the picture frame instructions).

celticnoodle
28-09-2006, 01:40
interesting thread here, thanks helvetica for starting it all with your purchase. I've learned alot already just on these two pages from everyone's posts.

I don't know much about crystals & stones, but have always been drawn to the crystal ball. I do have one, but have not had much luck with it as yet. I have heard about using a bowl of water also, but the crystal ball just 'speaks' to me I guess. I am very interested in learning more about these crystals and stones--especially for their healing properties. Can anyone recommend a good book on this?

I'd love to get an obsidian, but I think if I ordered anymore divination stuff, my husband just may flip-ha! I'll wait awhile, maybe for Christmas, which is not too far down the road!

Milfoil
02-10-2006, 02:46
I have one also from the same vendor which I purchased a year or so ago, its more oval in shape and feels 'serious' if that makes any sense? Its really beautiful but I struggle to work with it. It also sits with my altar, usually inside though.

Briar Rose
03-10-2006, 07:51
I've been told by a woman that own quite a large metaphysical shop that scrying mirrors are to be covered when not in use. She told me she took a class on mirrors and it was intense.

Le Fanu
27-01-2010, 08:08
Just bumping this thread, echoing Fudugazi's excitement at getting a scrying mirror. I bought mine from the same place and had pretty much the same first reaction.

However, I just wanted to know whether anyone knows where I could get a nice non-scratch stand to place it on when it is on my table? Something like a plate stand (my mirror is round), but I was wondering if there are any online shops (preferably Europe) which have supports for scrying mirros?

morticia monroe
27-01-2010, 10:51
KNow what would be beautiful, Fanu? Something like a cypress knee or a piece of driftwood,, it would look so natural and especially beautiful.


You could find a piece to stand the mirror up straight and hold the mirror on its side

http://www.japan-zone.com/culture/pix/driftwood.gif


or one that would lay it flat.

http://www.furniturehomedesign.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/driftwood-end-table.jpg


I'm sure you get my drift.

Grigori
27-01-2010, 11:55
Abaxion has some stands, not EU, but might be useful also.
http://www.abaxion.com/divin11.htm

I got a large plate stand from the Aussie equivalent of Walmart, its simple black plastic, and barely visible when in use.

Le Fanu
27-01-2010, 20:15
Great ideas! Thank you! At first I thought it was an odd, silly request, but AT-ers always have a solution to things!

That site Grigori is superb, and I love the driftwood idea morticia. I'm off out on errands this morning. All I really need is a half decent plastic plate rack (which I'll keep an eye open for) until I find something beautifully natural to lean it against. But I've bookmarked that site...

ETA; found a non-scratch little wooden plate-stand which is perfect! Cost 0.70 cents!