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huredriel
04-10-2007, 00:00
I am looking to get into making my own lotions & mixes with herbs & oils, shea butter etc ..... but have absolutely no knowledge about this kind of stuff. Does anyone have any suggestions for websites, books that I can start with? I would especially love a recommendation for where I can buy some unrefined shea butter in the UK that's reputable. At the moment I get my oils from baldwins in the UK.

Mods, not sure if this belongs here or in chat, so please move if appropriate :)

Many thanks
x Huredriel

Waterfaery
04-10-2007, 00:22
I just posted a whole list of books under the thread about an Herbal Encyclopedia. AzureGreen is based in Massachusettes, but they ship all over and it's a good place to get everything you'll need from books to supplies. They also have a wholesale club if you plan to buy in bulk.

Hope that helps!

huredriel
04-10-2007, 02:30
Thanks Waterfaery, I think I'm gonna be sticking with the oils first and then moving onto solid herbs. Found this which is quite interesting for the properties aspect

http://www.geocities.com/gardenwitchry/oils/oils.html

Waterfaery
04-10-2007, 10:31
Thanks for the link! Attached it to my browser. For the oils, I have three books that have served me well that I would recommend to anyone. Golden Secrets of Mystic Oils by Anna Riva is more of list with basic info on every oil out there. The Complete Book of Essential Oils and Aromatherapy by Valerie Ann Worwood is an encyclopedia of info and recipes. Flower Essences: An Illustrated Guide by Carol Rudd is a good one for learning how to make your own oils.

Briar Rose
04-10-2007, 12:36
Just please becareful when using Bergamont. I put a few drops of the essential oil in my bath water and it gave me huge welts all over! I had to go straight to the dr.'s and they gave me cream and it took about 3 days to clear.

It looked worse than chicken pocks, but thankfully didn't leave scars.

Waterfaery
04-10-2007, 22:47
Just please becareful when using Bergamont. I put a few drops of the essential oil in my bath water and it gave me huge welts all over! I had to go straight to the dr.'s and they gave me cream and it took about 3 days to clear.

It looked worse than chicken pocks, but thankfully didn't leave scars.

Sorry to hear that HV :( Are you allergic to it?

thorhammer
04-10-2007, 23:48
Just please becareful when using Bergamont. I put a few drops of the essential oil in my bath water and it gave me huge welts all over! I had to go straight to the dr.'s and they gave me cream and it took about 3 days to clear.

It looked worse than chicken pocks, but thankfully didn't leave scars.

Ouch! That sounds really unpleasant, HV!

Yeah, you have to be careful with a few of the citrus oils. I know that lime and lemon are both notorious for reactions, if not exactly allergies. More a sensitivity. They have to be used a carrier oil like sweet almond or light olive.

Ooh, my skin's still smarting from reading that! :O

\m/ Kat

mingbop
05-10-2007, 00:10
go to Akua at sheabutter cottage for the purest unrefined shea.For e/o go to
shop4essentialoils.com -and she has a lot of info on there about what to use and what not to.

Grigori
05-10-2007, 00:30
I am looking to get into making my own lotions & mixes with herbs & oils, shea butter etc .....

oooh fun! I have been making my own aromatherapy concoctions of late, and am having a great time. I'd advise to just make very small batches and try before you commit to making a whole bottle worth (Cause a lot of my first efforts, were a bit dodgy :| ). The best part is you can make what you want, and if you want something different, you can make it different every day.

As a general rule, use 1 drop of essential oil, to 2mL/gm or base substance (e.g. shea butter).

Mixing oils is fairly easy really, and you quickly learn what you like and what your special favorites are (for me, Sandalwood, Bergamot, Lime, Patchouli! YUM)
To start out, its good to work with only a small number of oils in each blend. Ideally 3. That makes it easy to make a nice blend.

Its usually good to pick:
1) a wood (so this is usually your base note, something like Sandalwood, Cedarwood, Rosewood, Frankincense, etc..)
2) Then pick a herb or flower (usually a middle note, Patchouli, Lavender, Basil, Chamomile, Clary Sage, Geranium, Rose, etc.) and then
3) a Citrus (so a top note, makes is sweet and bright, and softens harsh wood and florals. Grapefruit, Orange, Lemon etc..)
If your blend is not quite right, try adding an extra drop of the top note, that often sorts it out. Though generally speaking you'll want most of your oils to be from middle notes, with a lesser amount of top and base. My list above is not 100% correct, as some of the florals are bases and some of the woods are middles etc.. but you won't go to far off if you just work that way to begin with.

What sort of oils are you wanting to use. Are you selecting for their effects on the skin, or more spiritual reasons. If you wanting to smell good to pick up a man or two ;), may I suggest Sandalwood, a little bit of YlangYlang, Neroli and Lime. })

willowfox
05-10-2007, 00:36
Have a look at this one;

The Essential Oils Book, Creating Your Own Personal Blends by Colleen Dodt

huredriel
06-10-2007, 01:13
HV that sounds extremely painful :eek: ....... shall definitely remember that! Same as for the citrus ones Thor :)

Thanks Ming, I found Akua's site thru googling, but always prefer to use a site that has personal recommendation. That's probably where I will get my shea butter from. Had a quick look at the other, but I think will stick to baldwins for my essential oils, prices there are quite reasonable (though I nearly died when I bought some jasmine the other day)!

huredriel
06-10-2007, 01:17
Hi sim :heart: ........ was just wondering where you were the other day!! Yeah I've been doing very small recipes I've picked up from some mags over the past few months, but considering my oil collection is starting to grow, thought I'd better do something with it! And I've been getting really sick & tired of all the crap they put into body lotion so thought I'd make my own with shea butter & oils ..... til I read you have to melt it ............ so then I realised better get some knowledge :D Love the suggestion ....... at the end btw, will have to try that and let you know the results :D once I've added them to my shopping list ....... never realised oils would be so expensive (can you tell I'm still in shock with the jasmine I bought a week ago - its the absolute not diluted). I have picked up one bath oil mix recipie that smells like Terry's chocolate orange :heart: ...... yummm :D

Thanks willowfox, that's another one to add to my list over at Amazon ........ that sounds like it will be perfect for me :)

Ruby7
06-10-2007, 02:05
I would recommend the book "Making Aromatherapy Creams and Lotions" by Donna Maria ISBN 1-58017-241-5

All the best,
Ruby7

huredriel
09-10-2007, 05:24
Thanks Ruby, added to the list :)

Well I got a load of things out of the fridge and pureed it (didn't look good I have to say) ...... and it was so liquidy I added some oatmeal. Used it, felt ok, doesn't seem to have done any harm ....... but I was wondering ...... how long should this be ok for in the fridge? AND, if I have to throw any away, would chuck into compost heap ........ however I'm not sure whether that's ok due to the oatmeal. Any suggestions?

Milfoil
09-10-2007, 06:40
You could try this site:

http://www.indianspringherbs.com/Lotions_Potions.htm

Unrefined shea butter? Not sure, I have shea butter but I think its refined.

How much do you require?

For larger quantities you can try a company called Statfold seed oils:

http://www.statfold-oils.co.uk/

Its been a while since I ordered anything but the were quite willing a few years back, to sell me 1ltr or 1kg of oils. Nice to deal with too and not expensive.

Waterfaery
09-10-2007, 20:19
Thanks Ruby, added to the list :)

Well I got a load of things out of the fridge and pureed it (didn't look good I have to say) ...... and it was so liquidy I added some oatmeal. Used it, felt ok, doesn't seem to have done any harm ....... but I was wondering ...... how long should this be ok for in the fridge? AND, if I have to throw any away, would chuck into compost heap ........ however I'm not sure whether that's ok due to the oatmeal. Any suggestions?

It depends on what all was in it. Some things keep longer than others. If it's all natural ingredients, the compost heap is fine, even the oatmeal. If it's sugary, though, you might draw flies but that would be your only concern.

huredriel
09-10-2007, 22:12
Thanks for the links Millie, some nice recipes on there I would like to try!

Waterfaery, thank you so much. No sugar ...... lettuce, peppers, cucumber, tomatoes ..... that kind of thing, plus the oatmeal, so I reckon about 3 days and then into the compost it goes :)

floracove
09-10-2007, 22:21
If you go to yahoo groups and search for bundles of scrolls, you will find a multitude of interesting recipes for herbs as well as lots of other interesting info.

huredriel
09-10-2007, 23:31
Thanks flora, have asked to be added :), it has to be moderator approved, so I said I was forwarded the link by you. Hope that's ok :)

floracove
09-10-2007, 23:40
That's fine with me, and the reason for not posting a direct link from here, but rather to just give the info on how to find it. I do hope that isn't against the rules...

Waterfaery
10-10-2007, 00:15
Thanks for the links Millie, some nice recipes on there I would like to try!

Waterfaery, thank you so much. No sugar ...... lettuce, peppers, cucumber, tomatoes ..... that kind of thing, plus the oatmeal, so I reckon about 3 days and then into the compost it goes :)

Sounds about right. A facial peel or a skin lotion? Sounds yummy!

huredriel
10-10-2007, 01:18
Sounds about right. A facial peel or a skin lotion? Sounds yummy!
LOL, kinda like a whole load of gunk that I chucked on my face and had to be careful not to stand up so it fell off :D ..... however some of it dried pretty good and took a bit of rinsing to get it all off and did make the face feel a lot tighter.

huredriel
10-10-2007, 01:20
Actually was wondering if perhaps we could have an aromatherapy section here (not really sure what it comes under to be honest)? Or would that take up too much bandwith? Like with the dreams section ..... we could have an index for recipes & also then be able to include all types of correspondences, magical & otherwise.

Waterfaery
10-10-2007, 02:01
That would be so cool! People could share their own concoctions! May have to make a suggestion to the moderators about that. Herbs and aromatherapy really need to be separated. Or maybe just a "Member Recipe" section, who knows? Great idea!

PS Cucumber and oatmeal makes a mean facial mask great for any skin type. ;)

Elnor
10-10-2007, 03:05
I don't know about the shea butter, but this is an excellent site for ordering herbs from in the UK- very quick deliverery; reasonable prices,- I get almost all of mine from her:

http://herbmoonhollow.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=21

elnor

Alta
10-10-2007, 09:48
For a start, I will create an index for these aromatherapy threads. Just PM me when you start a new one.

Solandia doesn't like to create sub-Forums unless the topic is very active and also continues for a while.

Marion
Moderator, C&H

floracove
10-10-2007, 10:22
One word of warning to people of fair color skin tones and sensitive skin.
You may not want to try anything with egg whites.
i made a face mask of egg white once, it worked wonders for my sister who is more olive tone that I am, but me it blistered at least the top layer of skin off.
My face was ruined for about a week or so.
We only left it on for a short time, not like it stayed on for hours or anything.

So, if you do try to use egg whites, you may just want to do a test spot to see if it is going to affect you.

Of course, I love eggs, but when I eat eggs that are not fully cooked they more than likely make me sick as a dog for a day or so, so that might be my problem with egg on my face.

But, if my experience can keep someone else from blistering their face from eggs, then sharing here is a good thing.

;)

huredriel
10-10-2007, 20:00
Thanks flora, I'm intolerant to eggs so that's a good warning for me :)

Brilliant, thanks Marion :)

Waterfaery
10-10-2007, 21:25
Yay! If it's nothing but a recipes section and "warning experiences" (sorry to hear about yours Floracove :( ) something tells me it will be pretty active.

aaquwaa
11-10-2007, 01:22
hi there,
just wanted to say at msn groups there is a group called Wystira's Herbal Garden that has a lot of aromatherapy and herbal recipes. Glad to see some aromatherapy interest here. :)