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Briar Rose
18-10-2007, 10:29
Hi everyone,

I wrote to International Isotopes about those pesty Vaseline glass beads fo mine. I think some of you were right about getting rid of them. I wrote the company back after their reply about testing the beads for me, or getting rid of them properly. I am waiting to hear back from them. All I have been is sick since I got them. I love them, and the color is amazing, the properties of these are not, especially since I use jewelry for healing. Uranuim will kill me.


Anyway, here is the companies frist reply. I thought ya'll might like to read about it:



Uranium will emit alpha, low energy photons and low energy electrons as it decays. The alpha particle will not escape the glass bead. You may be able to detect a small amount of alpha from any uranium that is just as the surface of the bead, even still the alpha particle will not penetrate the skin or pass through clothing. Low Energy electron and photon dose on the surface shouldn’t be very high. This energy would be deposited in the skin adjacent that is in contact with the bead(s). If you have a G-M probe you could measure the dose or count rate. I do not know the concentration of uranium in the glass so I can’t give you an estimate of what this dose would be. I modeled the photon dose for a 0.25 cm radius bead of pure natural uranium. The photon dose 0.25 cm from the surface is 0.0063 mr/hr. If you multiply that by 10 (highly conservative) to account for the dose due to electron emission then you are at 0.063 mr/hr. To observe immediate affects of radiation on the skin the dose needs to be extremely high. The allowable occupation dose to the skin is 50 rems (or 50,000 mr) in one year. This dose is much lower than the dose that would result in detriment to the skin. If you use the dose rate from the model and wore the bead 24 hours a day then the dose to the skin beneath that bead would be about 550 mr in one year. The real hazard with uranium is the internal exposure associated with inhaling or ingesting uranium. So I wouldn’t call your uranium beads “un safe” and I wouldn’t expect any adverse medical effect from wearing the beads. But I wouldn’t crush them up and snort them.

sleepingcat
18-10-2007, 13:27
I dont know if I'm just a huge geek or what..... But I had to look up what you were talking about and it's so gorgeous.

I'm sorry to hear it's made you sick, it's a real shame. ;-;

Even if the beads themselves are just a neenie bit..... it's like heavy metals.

If you have a lot of different exposures, all minimal amounts, your body still carries around the sum of all the exposures, and the totals can get pretty staggering. ><

...Eat lots and lots of chocolate covered raisins for anti-oxidants?

Debra
18-10-2007, 13:33
Um. It's true, alpha is stopped by skin and paper. But you don't like these beads any more, knowing what you do about them...sounds like you'd be happier with greeny-glowy plastic than this stuff! Did you see this site, HV?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://1st.glassman.com/vaseline/vaselinenecklace3.jpg&imgrefurl=http://1st.glassman.com/vaseline/slides/vaselinenecklace3.html&h=380&w=448&sz=37&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=HE1fi1YgYxZ18M:&tbnh=108&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dvaseline%2Bglass%2Bbead%26gbv%3D2%26s vnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX

willowfox
18-10-2007, 18:42
But I wouldn’t crush them up and snort them.

Hey! Why not? Sounds like a really great idea, snorting bits of glass and uranium. Wow, a real hot buzz.

Debra
18-10-2007, 19:02
PS HeavensVault, run right down to the local camera shop and get a lead bag--they sell them for film, so it's just the right size for a bead necklace and will keep your hot jewelry segregated nicely, for just a few bucks....

Briar Rose
19-10-2007, 02:32
Ha ha ha! You are so funny. :smiling brightly: :chuckle chuckle:

I got another reply. Looks like the old thread I had on AT, with replies to get rid of the beads was correct. I remember an old thread under 'Chat' and Debra and Papageno both told me to get rid of the beads. Well, I am finally listening.

Now, how do I get rid of them? We have a Well, so I just can't burry them in the yard. Maybe I should just mail everything to the Isotopes company and this guy can dispose of them for me?

My reply tells be the beads may be giving off a dose slightly higher than background radiation. What does that mean if you are exposed to it on a daily basis? Sounds bad to me.




Here is the current reply from International Isotopes, 10/18/2007:




If you send me a few bead I will be able to test it for you. However it may be easier for you if you contacted your local fire department. After 9/11 the Department of Homeland Security began issuing fire and police departments radiation detection equipment. You could also contact a nearby University and they may have the proper detection equipment needed to obtain measurements on your beads. I do not see a link between the beads and stomach problems and arthritis. In the grand scheme of things the dose rate associated with these beads would contribute to a dose slightly above the dose you receive from background radiation.

willowfox
19-10-2007, 02:53
I have been reading up on these uranium beads and glassware and the question that popped into my mind was, "why on earth buy these things in the first place"? They certainly don't look pretty or anything, and knowing that uranium oxide kills, I would not take them even if they were free.

Briar Rose
19-10-2007, 03:05
well, I didn't know about the dangers when I first bought them a long time ago. And I thought the Vaseline glass and the Vaseline glass beads were pretty. I guess they still are very pretty to me.

However, in learning about Crystal Healing, and the properties in minerals, it made me think about the Vaseline glass beaded jewerly I made, and any dangers associated with them.

I don't think that the Vaseline glass beads are going to just kill me, just like that...poofffff I'm gone. But I haven't felt good since I got them, however I was always in good health before I got them. So, maybe there is a slightly relation somewhere.

Lesson learned.

It's a matter of parting with them now. I know I can do it.

sleepingcat
19-10-2007, 03:11
I think they're very beautiful ;-; I want some. But I know my school researched radioactivity in the past, and I'll assume I could still be exposed.

Not worth the risk, I'll keep reminding myself.

otherwise I'd take them off your hands.

Elnor
19-10-2007, 04:30
I had never heard of vaseline glass, and so had a google... found this site:

http://1st.glassman.com/vaselineglass.html

It seems that this technique for colouring glass has been around since possibly the 1830's- who'd have ever thought of colouring glass using uranium?!

It does produce amazing colours, as the pics further down the webpage show.

elnor

fferyllt
19-10-2007, 05:35
Hi HeavensVault, I just stumbled on this thread. If you decide you don't want your beads anymore, you could check with a museum or university near you to see if they might want them for a display. I've seen a number of educational displays like this, where they put similar items in a case next to a geiger counter to demonstrate the radioactivity of things that were made before the problems were understood. The Corning Glass museum has a display like this, as does the Exploratorium, and so do many other places.

Debra
19-10-2007, 05:55
That's right! I first saw them in Corning! Great idea--there are plenty of universities in the area, and the geology departments always have display cases!

Waterfaery
19-10-2007, 06:15
They use low-level uranium doses to treat some forms of cancer and diabetes mellitus. Some of the side effects are nausea, stomach cramps, bowel problems, stiffness and achiness in the joints and muscles (similar to milder forms of arthritis and fibromyalgia), dry skin, and brittle nails and hair. Usually once the treatments were completed, it took about two months for the uranium to work its way completely out of the system and all side effects to stop altogether. But no cases have ever reported any lasting effects from this. My grandmother was treated with this, and she described it as feeling like you had a constant state of the flu but without throwing up all the time. She was nauseated, but it stayed fairly well under control. Once you stop the exposure, the sickness that you're describing should go away. If it continues, see a doctor.

I would definitely have those things tested somewhere by a creditable lab, and they'll know what to do to dispose of them properly. I hope this info helps you.

Elysianfaery
19-10-2007, 06:39
I had never heard of vaseline glass, and so had a google... found this site:

http://1st.glassman.com/vaselineglass.html

It seems that this technique for colouring glass has been around since possibly the 1830's- who'd have ever thought of colouring glass using uranium?!

It does produce amazing colours, as the pics further down the webpage show.

elnor
That page has some beautiful glasses! The colors remind me of absinthe.

I wouldn't own any of those pieces though...I can be enough of a worry-wart without the added benefit of Uranium! :P

Briar Rose
21-10-2007, 12:59
[QUOTE=Waterfaery]They use low-level uranium doses to treat some forms of cancer and diabetes mellitus. Some of the side effects are nausea, stomach cramps, bowel problems, stiffness and achiness in the joints and muscles (similar to milder forms of arthritis and fibromyalgia), dry skin, and brittle nails and hair.



OH MY. this is exactly what's been going on with me (not cancer or diabetes) but the side effects since I got these beads.
I am sending them out to the Isotopes company really soon.

Too bad as I love the beads, and the necklace I made.
But I am making the right choice.

Barbaras Ahajusts
21-10-2007, 14:10
I'm still laughing at that first letter about not snorting them. LMAO!
I have to ask, what on earth would posses someone to say that....:laugh:

Oh, mio myoh. That was a good belly laugh!

Write back and ask this person if they want to help document the snorting of said beads. And do they think it would finally clear up a perpetual sinus problem and if there would be a future problem getting into nightclubs that used black lights and them wanting you to...to...be a backup decoration as a glowing green nose......LOLOL

Ok...I think I have abused that letter long enough...ROTFLMAO!!!!

Such a great sense of humor...you gotta love em!
:DBarb

Debra
21-10-2007, 14:25
Sorry to ruin the joke, Barbara A, but this is exactly the kind of thing that scientists who work a lot with radioactive materials say all the time. They hold up a lil' chunk of something radioactive and say, "I could EAT this and it wouldn't even hurt me! It would only hurt me if I...." whatever.

It's part of the nuclear culture.

Barbaras Ahajusts
21-10-2007, 14:38
Debra,
I'm sorry. I did that reply as a pm. I was typing to fast and talking to hubby.
:D
Jokes stays for me!

Barb

Briar Rose
22-10-2007, 03:02
:D


Last night I put ALL the Vaseline glass beads and the infamous necklace in a ziplock and put it on the porch outside the house until I can mail it off to International Isotopes Company.

I did think about donating everything to a museum, but isn't that bad too because people will still be exposed to the material?

In the past few years I've have to give up so many things I love due to illness.

Debra
22-10-2007, 06:49
Oh, you can have a "good bye and good riddance" party for them!

fferyllt
22-10-2007, 07:52
I did think about donating everything to a museum, but isn't that bad too because people will still be exposed to the material?

In the past few years I've have to give up so many things I love do to illness.
A museum that understands what they are can handle them safely and use them for an educational display. But you should do what you feel is best and what you are most comfortable with. And I hope you feel better having them out of the house. :)