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cheekyminx
20-01-2008, 18:04
:(

Anyone out there who suffers from awful periods? I honestly thought that by the time I hit 25*cough* 30 ;) they'd be sorted out but no, everything is still the same.

I've suffered with bad period pain and heavy periods since I was a teenager, and they also go for like 7 days. I'm almost to the point of taking the pill to not get a period anymore *sigh* I don't get how a female can loose so much blood either :bugeyed: Also kinda sux how 99.9% of gynaecologists are male *not impressed look* yeah, like they can relate "Oh yeah my wife wasn't feeling well the other day due to her period, so I cooked dinner..."

so my question is;

Is there any herbs or crystals that "work"? Cause I'm over feeling like crap for 2 days out of the month and having to does up on panadeine forte and when I can have a nana nap.

Rant over.

motsa
20-01-2008, 18:34
Hate to break it to you but they just keep getting worse, until maybe you hit perimenopause. LOL

Don't know about herbs or crystals but I swear by naproxen or Advil Liqui-gels (not plain old ibuprofen, has to be the liquid gel ones), both of which should be available in Australia. Naproxen in particular does a marvelous job of quelling the cramping, nausea, and mood swings without making you tired. As for the bleeding, for me that has only tapered off because of perimenopause.

Kahlie
20-01-2008, 19:22
Dear cheekyminx,

It depends on what causes them and what your major complaints are. I always had periods that were lovely emotionally, so people's suggestion for Moonstone didn't do much for me.

However, I'd lose a lot of blood, and yes, also over 7 days or more, leaking through 3 pads during the night sometimes. My gynecologist was kind enough to check it out. One of the reasons I had such a heavy menstruation was that I had a very small uterus wall lining, so my body would try very hefty movements and scrape it continuously completely clean, causing so much blood. I do suggest you go back and demand that they check what is going on. There are several things that could be causing it. Including early menopause.

In the end, my menstruations have leveled off, I have very little problems now. I went to a physiotherapist that specializes in that area, and she helped increase blood flow and relaxation. It took me at least 8-12 months.

My sister *also* had heavy problems, not with blood loss, but with heavy cramping. I send her to the same specialized physiotherapist by recommendation. 6 months later she is almost complaint free, so she doesn't have to take pain killers several times daily during her period. Once one of her clients told her she should go home, as she looked so drawn and white (during her period) and she must be very sick.

I'm not sure how to translate the type of physio in English, sorry. They also help pregnant women after pregnancy if the bones/muscle structure gets damaged.

If your problem is also relaxation/blood flow, I'd suggest you use carnelian or something like it to help you ease through it at first.

Hope you find what helps you, and find a doc who is willing to take you serious!

Love,

Kahlie

greenbeans
20-01-2008, 20:56
hi cheekyminx

I get the 7 day heavy period too. (don't you just hate those lucky women with a light, 3 day period??) In fact I just went to consult my natural health book and it fell open on the 'heavy periods' page automatically!

Basically it could have many causes you should consult a doc (I know, I hate it) but the book also advises eating fewer animal fats and more vegetable oils as well as green leafy veg. You could be short of vitamins A,C,E and IRON. (I know, heavy blood loss= loss of iron, duh, but there's a theory it may work the other way too, so it might be an idea to check if you have enough iron in your diet)

It also advises a herb called capsella bursa-pastoris as a tea. I've never tried that, don't know about it, so ask a herbalist about it (or maybe a herb specialists on AT can advise?)

also, this may seem mad, but do you use a Mooncup/Divacup? Its an alternative form of sanitary protection, some people say it reduces the length and painfulness of a period. I use it and it doesn't reduce the length but I definitely get less pain. (It sounds crazy, but I swear tampons give me cramps) Not for everyone, but maybe you could give it a try? Its good for the environment too!

gorgeousbutterfly
20-01-2008, 21:12
maybe try taking an iron supplement.

Elnor
20-01-2008, 21:13
Cheekyminx:

another thing that could be a factor, and which is too often overlooked (and is VERY common in women) is a low thyroid.

Here's a website with other hypothyroidism symptoms... have a look and see if there are any others that you suffer with...

http://www.safemenopausesolutions.com/thyroid.html

and here is a website that goes into detail as to how it can affect periods:

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/menstruation.htm

(this site says "Thyroid disease is frequently the reason behind problems with a woman's menstrual cycle.")

Keep on at your doctor... if he's unsympathetic that's his problem- tell him the quality of YOUR life is being affected by this and he needs to get his finger out. (and I know exactly what you're going through... in my case I had a hysterectomy, and I only wish I could have had it done sooner!)

all the best;
elnor

mystic mal
20-01-2008, 21:40
Every day take 1000mg vitamin C and 1000mg bioflavonoids in divided doses..500mg in the morning and the same in the evening.These help to strengthen the walls of the blood vessels to reduce excessive bleeding.Bioflavonoids are found in grapeskins,blackberries and citrus fruits.,especially in the pulp and white rind. Chasteberry also helps from good health shops.

memries
21-01-2008, 01:08
I agree with you Elnor and had the same results. I had low thyroid for years.
Get to a specialist somehow Cheekyminx. Male doctors are not always the most sympathetic listeners.

When I finally had the hysterectomy they found out lots wrong with me that never showed up on tests. It was the happiest day of my life when it was over. I was 41 and had, had my family though.

cheekyminx
21-01-2008, 09:56
Thank you for the advice and links Khalie, greenbeans, gorgeousbutterfly, Elnor, mystic mal, memries and mosta.

Tarotphelia
21-01-2008, 10:16
Hi Cheeky ,

This is a very good page on menstrual irregularities and some natural remedies for various symptoms :

http://www.project-aware.org/Managing/Alt/menstrual.shtml

Also , sometimes the pain can be diminished by drinking more water . And, if you eat as purely carbohydrate a snack or meal as possible that helps . Protein and fat interfere with seratonin in the brain , so eating something with as little of those as possible can really make a difference .

In my own case , pms symptoms of painful breast tenderness and excessive bleeding were completely gone after I started taking magnesium, folic acid and B6 every day .
Which was a lot cheaper and less stressful than the hysterectomy the *&^%##! doctor wanted to give me.

Wonderwoman
21-01-2008, 10:42
cheekyminx, back when i too suffered tremendously painful periods i was advised to drink raspberry tea to soothe my pain/nerves. Also you might want to put a warm/heating pad on your belly, near your ovaries to soothe the pain. i remember my mother recommended it and it worked wonders for me. i know what i'm about to disclose is no consolation for your pain but my awful periods cease to exist after i had my child. I have not had a painful period for nearly a decade now. I hope you get better!

Ww :)

franniee
21-01-2008, 10:48
cheeky i am with you :( sorry to say and mine is due with the full moon which no doubt is going to make it all the more worse! I had polyps removed and it seemed to help briefly but I think they may have come back (seems to have gotten worse with age and after birth) but I digress... I was buying some crystals the other day (for protection0 and found that carnelian is supposed to help matters.... so it is on my nightstand table :D let's see how that goes. :) It is with the ameythsy and clear quartz, goldstone, malachite, black obsidean and tiger's eye OH and rose quartz... I bet they interact with one another and I am not suppose to put them all together... but that is where they are....

Wanna experiment with me? :D

:love:

serenaserendipity
21-01-2008, 13:56
i hope you all don't hate me for bringing this up because this is not a particular ailment i suffer from. however, i thought my experience might prove helpful.

i have pain only on the first day and then everything is no big deal, i also feel emotionallyvery powerful though i can be very impatient with others. overall the period is not too unpleasant though it is not exactly pleasant either.

i have seen also the opposite situation where girls are not having regular periods and i think (this is my own theory, but supported by modern research) that it has to do with a hormonal imbalance.

you see our modern world has become impregnated with vast amounts of estrogenic compounds, pollutants which act as false estrogens in the body. they mostly come from dioxins which are biproducts of chlorine use in paper manufacturing, pesticides (agricultural) and also plastics production and recycling.

these compounds are everpresent in the atmosphere and are carried on the tradewinds to the arctic where they accumulate (eskimos are having much worse problems than we are, their breast milk is nowadays considered to be toxic waste because of the severity of this pollution).

exposure to the hormones is also interfering with male puberties. male babies have a dramatically higher penile birth defect rate nowadays and sperm counts of 18-22 year old men in our modern time are less than half of what they were 25 or more years ago.

the situation is exacerabated by the frequent use of hormones in the meat and dairy industry. not only are animals being exposed to the same chemicals we are, they are given additional chemicals to accelerate their growth and their milk production. this creates a concentration of chemicals which act estrogenically in their "products", their milk and meat.

all of these factors combined has caused the average age of girl puberty to drop to age 10 or 11 from what was 12 or 13 a generation ago and 15 or 16 two or three generations ago.

also there is a minority of girls whose bodies in a self-protective mechanism, try to protect themselves from the pollution through trying to have a low body fat. this is because the chemicals are stored in the body fat, of animals and humans, but also because body fat itself radiates low levels of estrogen. not all of the modern day eating disorders are psychological in nature, some of them have an instinctive physiological root, of a desire of the body not to be poisoned.

my recommendation is as follows:
-to limit the intact of animal products especially animal meat and fat and dairy
(dairy only from organic, grassfed cows or goats)
-to reduce weight to a slender level (to reduce estrogenic effects) through the use of awareness of food, gentle exercise such as walking, plenty of sleep and aids such as green tea and supplements such as micronutrients needed by the mitochondria (chromium for example)
-to include tonifying estrogenic herbs in the body (which act as "toners" to the body's natural estrogen processes:
these include raspberry leaf (a uterine toner) and licorice root

soy products can be therapeutic if they are organic/// they have a strong estrogenic activity but can be used as a way to fill the bodies natural estrogen receptors with a less-powerful estrogen than the pollution.

high fiber high antioxidant fruits such as raspberries, blackberries and goji berries also purify the body and allow it to become more immune to pollution.

blackberries in particular are very tonifying... they grow in polluted places as a message from mother nature, that they will help us deal with pollution!

also here is a yoga position which helps:
if you lie on your stomach, reach back and grab your ankles while lifting your head and aiming to look at the ceiling. rock back and forth.

this is very tonifying to the uterus.

oh! and be VERY careful with tampons, most of them are FULL of dioxin and promote the growth of bacteria inside the woman.. Dioxin is one of the most powerful cancer-causing false estrogens on the planet. one drop of pure dioxin is enough to kill a man and yet the kimberly clark corporation (that makes toilet paper) dumps 100,000 gallons of dioxin contaminated water into puget sound every day (that is near where i live but i am sure you have your own problems where you are... but it doesn't matter we all share the same wind and water and air eventually!)

the dioxin in our local waters is one of the things that is making the orca whales unable to reproduce.

i don't think any modern woman who is educated about what is truly in a modern everyday tampon would choose to put it within herself...

best of luck to you ladies...


sincerely....


serendipity

serenaserendipity
21-01-2008, 13:58
oh also pure fish oils (if there are any left) and flax oils and borage oils help the body with inflammation and help the pattern of cramping go more smoothly...

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p.s. you can also try massaging the belly with pure unrefined organic sesame oil (available at the grocery store or co-op but i like to add lavender so you don't end up smelling like chinese food!!)

cheekyminx
21-01-2008, 21:01
Thanks for the replies wonderwoman, Franniee and Serena.

LOL yeah we should experiment shouldn't we Franniee ;)

Wow Serena that's a lot of information, I do appreciate the time you took with your posts :)

greenbeans
21-01-2008, 21:23
this is all such useful info!

be VERY careful with tampons, most of them are FULL of dioxin and promote the growth of bacteria inside the woman...i don't think any modern woman who is educated about what is truly in a modern everyday tampon would choose to put it within herself...


serendipity, i didn't know this but it this totally gels with my -ve experience of tampons, people told me they make cramping pain worse because they are full of chemicals (for absorbency etc) but I never thought to try an alternative. Well, now I have and I'm very happy! (not to sound like an advert, lol!) Your theory is very interesting, thanks for posting.

Waterfaery
22-01-2008, 00:33
Hi Cheekyminx! You're already flooded with advice, but I had to say BOY DO I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL! The whole time I was growing up and on into my twenties, my periods were just ghastly. I usually wound up in bed because of the pain, I couldn't even move without screaming. Dark chocolate works wonders for the cramps and the emotional yuck, but it wasn't until I tried Black Cohosh that anything worked at all.

It doesn't *add* progesterone to your system like some of the pills do, it forces your body to balance it's own progesterone levels. Since I've been taking it the cramps are gone and the bleeding is normal so I can actually sleep through the night now lol. I take 1 40 mg softgel once a day during the week of my period. I have to count the days more carefully now, but that's a small bother compared to what I used to go through; I start the pills 2 days before I'm due to start and take them until I slow down to spotting.

I hope some of everybody's advice helps you because it's miserable when you have to deal with this! (((((cheekyminx))))

OrbWeaver
22-01-2008, 03:44
Hi Cheeky,

First of all, DEFINITELY see an ObGyn about your period pains if you haven't! I'm not sure why it's so hard for you to find a female ObGyn, I've never had a problem with that. Though at this point in my life, I don't care about the gender, as long as the doc knows what s/he is doing.

As for me, I am on Seasonale. I love not having a monthly period. However, for me I cramp worse than I used to when I DO have my period. This may or may not be the case for you if you got on something like Seasonale. If you were on regular BC, it may certainly help regulate your periods, but perhaps not as much as you'd like. As I said, it is important that you see an ObGyn about this ASAP.

I noticed someone suggested a heating pad. My mom suggested the same thing to me, and it only made my cramps worse. Each woman is different, so if you try the pad, I hope it sooths your cramps, instead of making them worse like it did for me.

I have noticed alot of good advice in this thread, and I hope that something in all that advice works for you. Regardless, I still fully support seeing a doc as soon as you can.

Silverlyn
22-01-2008, 03:57
Ugh...I KNOW what you mean!

I take this herbal female balance tonic (comes in capsules too)...every day to help with my PMS/peri-menopause symptoms and WOW what a difference all the way around!

Liquid: Take ONLY if you can stand hard-core herbal tastes! One 4-oz bottle lasts me a month:(I take two dropperfuls...dose looks like half a dropperful tho, twice a day)
http://westernbotanicals.com/cfpages/prod_detail.cfm?RECNO=hffema01&english=1&type=4

Capsules:
http://westernbotanicals.com/cfpages/prod_detail.cfm?RECNO=hffema02&english=1&type=4

The Chastetree berry, Dong Quai, etc. really lighten up my cramps and bleeding,etc.

Hope this info helps you and others like it has me!

Silverlyn

Sulis
22-01-2008, 05:19
Agnus cactus is good for heavy periods and it helps with pmt too.

I've had awfully heavy periods for the last 10 years. For the first day or first couple of days I have to stay indoors as I need to go to the loo every hour or so.
I use a mooncup and I can see how much I'm losing and it's a lot.

I used agnus cactus tincture a few years ago and it really helped but I stopped using it (as it had helped) and for the last few months my periods have been getting very heavy again.

I started taking it a month ago and it's already making a difference although I think it can sometimes take a few months to work.
I take echinacae tincture too in the winter to prevent colds so I just take the two together.
A few drops in a little water a couple of times a day.
Apparently it's not to be taken if you're on the pill (but if you're on the pill you probably won't be having heavy periods)..

Here's a link with some info: http://www.herbal-menopause.com/agnus-castus.html

You can get it in capsules too if you prefer those.

Neely75
22-01-2008, 09:27
My bleeding was a lot heavier, and I cramped more, in the few months before I found out my Thyroid was not working. I had it checked after my baby was born. Not long after I started bleeding more and was in more pain than usual. When I had more tests, sure enough, my thyroid had stopped working. I'd suggest a test to make sure that isn't an issue for you. Some women have no idea for years that it's a problem for them.

autumnsdaughter
22-01-2008, 11:13
I just started having these issues this year... it was due to stress. I used yarrow and shepherd's purse tinctures, along with drinking raspberry leaf tea. This has regulated the flow quite nicely and gently- and cramps are better too.

Nettles are also great for heavy flow, as they are rich in Iron- and nettle tea is so heavenly delicious! Susun Weed gives a nice account of Nettles in her book, Wise Woman Herbal: Healing Wise. For more information on Yarrow, I highly recommend Matthew Wood's book, The Book of Herbal Wisdom. He is as good as it gets! The whole book is wonderful, actually.

Silverlyn
23-01-2008, 02:44
I use a mooncup....

Pray tell: What is a Mooncup? Is it like the Instead cup we have here in the US?

I like Instead, yet it's NOT easy to insert~

I use Sea Sponge tampons...(they absorb MORE than regular tampons and won't dry you out AND you can have sex while using them!)....http://www.jadeandpearl.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=18

Those also eliminate cramping (believe it or not,as regular tampons will cramp me).

Silverlyn

Sulis
23-01-2008, 02:50
Pray tell: What is a Mooncup? Is it like the Instead cup we have here in the US?

I like Instead, yet it's NOT easy to insert~

I use Sea Sponge tampons...(they absorb MORE than regular tampons and won't dry you out)....http://www.jadeandpearl.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=18

Those also reduce cramping for me (believe it or not,as regular tampons will cramp me).

Silverlyn

No the Instead cups are disposable whilst the Mooncup lasts for years. I think that Mooncups are available in the USA and are similar to The Keeper.

Some info: http://www.mooncup.co.uk/

They are quite difficult to insert at times. I like the sound of those sea sponge tampons.

Sophie
23-01-2008, 02:53
Mooncup is fantastic - ecological and much cheaper than tampons. And no chemicals!

Cheeky - lark has several suggestions for good crystals for painful periods in other threads - you can do a search. I seem to remember her mention the Infinity Stone as one good one.

greenbeans
23-01-2008, 03:18
I never realised tampons were so bad- they contribute to environmental waste, cause infections, put us at risk of TSS and make cramping worse!You can get all-cotton tampons, dunno if they're better. Sea sponges- sounds like a good idea!

Mooncup/the Keeper/Divacup/Lunette are all brand names for the same thing. You can also get 'moon pads'/cloth pads, although I don't know if I'd be too lazy to wash them.

http://www.mooncup.co.uk/
http://www.tamponalert.org.uk/akta/alt.htm
http://www.angel-healing.co.uk/products.htm

Sulis
23-01-2008, 03:26
Greenbeans thanks for those links.

I use cloth menstrual pads as well as my Mooncup and they are wonderful...
I rinse them out and use the water as plant food, it's brilliant :)
My favourites are leopard print - very nice :)

lark
23-01-2008, 03:35
Hello from the queen of period problems...lark ""waves""
Here is a list of the stones I keep in a bowl by my bed.
Thought I would just reprint it here as it is lost deep in another thread not related really to this question.
Thank you for reminding me Fudugazi. :)

An excellent book for herbal remedies is Herbal Healing for women by Rosemary Gladstone

I have a tincture brewing right now that I will be decanting on the 26th of Jan. it's been brewing for 6 weeks...
It's a combination of chaste berry, cramp bark, raspberry leaf, pau d arco, chickweed and a smidgen of yellow dock.
I'll let you know how it goes and what results I see after I take it for a few months.

Yes, and Infinite has worked as a pain reliever for me...but not for everyone...it seems where stones are concerned its a matter of testing and trying untill you come up with the right vibration that matches yours...but this list might give you a place to start.

WOMEN’S STONES

BLUE TOPAZ- Hot flashes
CHRYSOCOLLA- The womans stone for all hormonal problems.
RED JASPER- menstrual/menopausal, bladder pain
BLOODSTONE- menstrual/menopausal
KUNZITE- menstrual/menopausal
CORAL- eases cramps
CARNELIAN- PMS, menstrual problems
ORANGE CALCITE- balances hormones, bladder pain
PEARL- helps hormones to find there natural balance.
TURQUOISE- eases cramps
WATER OR JELLY OPAL- breast tenderness, regulates hormonal levels.
HEMATITE- excessive bleeding
AMAZONITE- breast problems
GREEN FLUORITE- especially good for peri-menopause and menopause.
BLUE CALCITE- hot flashes, headache due to hormonal fluctuations.
MAHOGANY OBSIDIAN- all hormonal problems in older women
SERPENTINE- hormonal balance, mood swings
MOONSTONE-eases problems with fluid retention, menstrual, pms, menopause, mood swings, and prevents over reacting to the situations and pressures of others. Insomnia, and hormonal and stress related headaches.
EMERALD- Improves the general health of older women and makes the transition through menopause easier and more comfortable.
LEPIODOLITE-Menopause, powerful pain remover
SODALITE-Welcomes in wisdom of later years.
ROSE QUARTZ-menstrual pain
LAPIS LAZULI-menstrual pain
AMBER-bladder pain, cramp relief
RAINBOW QUARTZ-regeneration of cells and tissue in bladder
AQUAMARINE-bladder disorders
JADE-bladder problems
GREEN AVENTURINE-urinary problems
LAVA-PUMICE-absorbs menstrual cramps
INFINITE- Powerful pain reliever
BLUE TOPAZ-cystitis

motsa
23-01-2008, 03:52
be VERY careful with tampons, most of them are FULL of dioxinThat's actually not at all true. They may contain trace amounts of dioxin but they are hardly FULL of it.

wytchwood
23-01-2008, 03:53
Oh wow! Other mooncup fans lurking down here in the basement!! It really is great, if any of you gals aren't using it already- get one now!!

I find that taking regular exercise sorts it almost totally out, I reckon that between exercise and diet, almost any health problem can be overcome, or at least improved to a bearable level. I used to get nauseating, faintness-inducing cramps as well as heavy bleeding, bloating, tiredness, bad skin, you name it. Since I became a health nut (well not quite, but you get the idea) I had no problems at all. Eating a healthy diet and taking exercise. Magic.

I should point out that I now have the implant for contraception, but the improvements took place before then.

Zoe xx

cheekyminx
23-01-2008, 10:00
Aww you guys, well gals are great :D Thanks so much for the advice and for sharing your experiences.

Once I find out what days I have off work, hopefully I can book into see my doctors next week and the week after *crosses fingers* makes it hard as I find out 4-5 days before the start of the week what days I'm rostered on. I'm sure it will all work out, I have faith in the universe ;)

Thanks again

Silverlyn
23-01-2008, 15:38
I like the sound of those sea sponge tampons.

Ya, and you can have sex while they're in, as well. So the men may like that fact;)

Just sew or tie a piece of non-waxed dental floss in them, for easier removal.

Let me know what you think if you try them.

Silverlyn/Michelle
PS: I don't mean to hijack this thread from cheeky...yet it's kinda taken off..and I'm more curious about The Mooncup. It looks.....like you can really feel it, and bulky/uncomfortable....??

greenbeans
23-01-2008, 20:01
PS: I don't mean to hijack this thread from cheeky...yet it's kinda taken off..and I'm more curious about The Mooncup. It looks.....like you can really feel it, and bulky/uncomfortable....??

Not if you put it in right. I know it looks like a solid object but its made from medical grade silicone- soft and quite 'squishy'. You 'squish' it down into one of two folds (one of the folds is described here http://www.mooncup.co.uk/menstrual_cup_how_to_use.html) so its small enough to insert, once its 'in' it sort of 'opens' back into the cup shape and is worn much lower down than a tampon, really low down in fact. I never can feel it once its there. Its also advised that you insert in after rinsing in water, without drying, it makes things easier! I'm not sure how it stays there actually- some sort of mix of magic muscles and the cup forming a 'seal'.

Sulis
23-01-2008, 20:41
Ya, and you can have sex while they're in, as well. So the men may like that fact;)

Just sew or tie a piece of non-waxed dental floss in them, for easier removal.

Let me know what you think if you try them.

Silverlyn/Michelle
PS: I don't mean to hijack this thread from cheeky...yet it's kinda taken off..and I'm more curious about The Mooncup. It looks.....like you can really feel it, and bulky/uncomfortable....??

No you can't feel it at all once it's in, it just takes a bit of practice to get it in correctly but once you've got the knack it's brilliant. I've cut the stem off mine and I love it.
I think I'll stick with the mooncup as those sponge sea pearls only last a few months so in effect they're still disposable. With the mooncup there is no impact on the environment at all.
They sound better than tampons though :)
The sex thing isn't really an incentive for me, I don't usually feel much like having sex when I'm in the middle of a period ;)

Star-Willow
23-01-2008, 21:02
My dear Cheeky, you poor love :( I don't know why it's taken me this long to see this thread but anyways, I am so glad I found it! My moon-time was a horrendous experience from my very first time but has settled done somewhat since having my second daughter (10 yrs ago), thank the Goddess cos quite frankly it gave me the shits!!! Unfortunately, while the pain and heaviness subsided the moods and severity of them increased, drastically :( I, (and I don't know why it took so bloody long for me to think about it?), eventually got myself to see a Naturopath, well I call her my 'Angel'... she has helped me so much! Admittedly the potion that I have to drink 3 x's a day is not tastey (:rolleyes: to say the least) but it bloody-well works! I am well older than you but my periods are only 5 days long now, with the first 48 hrs being the heaviest, no pain what-so-ever and the best part is my moods have *chilled* much to the relief of my partner and kids...

I haven't read all the posts and I am sure someone here has alreay given advice on seeing a Naturopath, and I would highly recommend it!

I am very interested in these Mooncups, what an excellant idea in so many ways :) Does anybody know if these are available in Australia?

Best of Luck to you Cheeky, I hope you find help and relief real soon.

:heart:
star*

greenbeans
23-01-2008, 21:25
http://www.tamponalert.org.uk/akta/alt.htm

this link has a list of suppliers of alternative sanitary protection- scroll down, quite a few are from Australia (I think they sell it as 'The Keeper' different brand name)

Star-Willow
23-01-2008, 21:35
Thank you greenbeans, awesome link :)

Sulis
23-01-2008, 22:05
I found this site for The Keeper in Australia: http://www.keeper.com.au/
and this one: http://www.moonpads.com.au/keeper.html

Wemoon is an Australian company that makes sanitary pads (I have some of their pads, they're excellent) so they may also know where you can get menstrual cups from in Aus: http://www.wemoon.com.au/

If you prefer a Mooncup then I'm sure that you could buy one from the UK site and they'll send it to you: http://www.mooncup.co.uk/index.html

You could also try ebay as there are ebay shops that sell them.
They're available in chemists such as Boots now in the UK.

Silverlyn
24-01-2008, 02:54
Thanks guys. I'm thinking of ordering the Mooncup off of its site: mooncup.com (I live in the USA).

I'll get the silcone one, I think. That's gotta be strange, that it inserts really low like that? The suction thing kinda scares me for some reason, but I'm sure it's really safe and all....

Thanks for this great thread and info!

Star: What's the 'potion' made with you drink?

Silverlyn

autumnsdaughter
24-01-2008, 11:10
If you're in the US, the Diva Cup might be easier to find- that's what I use. It takes a bit of practice, but once you get the hang of it, it works beautifully. I trimmed the stem of mine, and it is so much more comfortable. Here's their website.
http://www.divacup.com/
I got mine at the local co-op.

geministar
24-01-2008, 11:47
Hi Cheekyminx,

So have you decided what you are going to do? I highly agree with Star-willow and the others who mentioned a naturopath. If you choose to see a naturopath you'll have to look around to get someone good and who will put your body back into balance. I have seen a naturopath over the years for a number of things and have gotten great results. It also beats taking a chemical :)

Star-Willow
24-01-2008, 22:24
I found this site for The Keeper in Australia: http://www.keeper.com.au/
and this one: http://www.moonpads.com.au/keeper.html

Wemoon is an Australian company that makes sanitary pads (I have some of their pads, they're excellent) so they may also know where you can get menstrual cups from in Aus: http://www.wemoon.com.au/

If you prefer a Mooncup then I'm sure that you could buy one from the UK site and they'll send it to you: http://www.mooncup.co.uk/index.html

You could also try ebay as there are ebay shops that sell them.
They're available in chemists such as Boots now in the UK.
Thanks for all of these links, Sulis... I'm going to buy a Mooncup. After reading the information on the 'keeper' site, I'm pretty confident that it will be a good thing for me :) Aswell as the enviro side of it all too :)

Star: What's the 'potion' made with you drink?

Silverlyn, I caught up with my *Angel* today and got a rundown on what is in my potion..... it has Bupleurum, Schizandra, Licorice, Siberian Ginseng, Withania, Gotu Kola, Black Cohosh, Chaste Tree and she adds Marshmallow to smooth it out a bit so I can take it! It's pretty potent but it's working wonders for me :)

thorhammer
24-01-2008, 22:31
There's also the Rad Pads (http://www.radpads.com.au/), which I have been using for years now (about two and a half years, and I've yet to have to replace them). I'd rave about them to anyone who cares to listen, and I believe that my symptoms are less because of not wearing synthetic pads. Also, as Star* said, the enviro benefits are wonderful.

\m/ Kat

greenbeans
24-01-2008, 22:40
I think I must be a little weird- I have enjoyed this thread way too much!!

It is so good to read shared experiences and get advice from others. I will definitely give some of these things a go- crystals, teas and cloth pads (for added safety with my mooncup).

I suppose we don't often get to talk about such things openly- I know most of the women in my acquaintance will wrinkle their noses at the idea of menstrual cups or washable pads, and laugh at the idea of anything other than a painkiller working. Well, we've shared in a mature and open fashion, hopefully for the good of our health and the planet!

Thank you to all the wonderful women of AT!

(Idea- maybe we could set up a 'Red Tent' thread where we share monthly problems and help- might have to set it up in subscriber section though as it'd stray beyond herbs)

Star-Willow
24-01-2008, 23:10
I think I must be a little weird- I have enjoyed this thread way too much!!

Not at all!

It is so good to read shared experiences and get advice from others. I will definitely give some of these things a go- crystals, teas and cloth pads (for added safety with my mooncup).

I for one would not have learnt about the *mooncup* if this thread had not have been started, for this I am thankful!

I suppose we don't often get to talk about such things openly- I know most of the women in my acquaintance will wrinkle their noses at the idea of menstrual cups or washable pads, and laugh at the idea of anything other than a painkiller working. Well, we've shared in a mature and open fashion, hopefully for the good of our health and the planet!

You are so right greenbeans, unfortunately our society is one where such things are not openly talked about and shared enough. I expect the same kind of reaction from a few of my friends too, they'll no doubt think that it's just me being a *hippy* and that's ok because that is what I am and the more *alternate* the better....

Thank you to all the wonderful women of AT!

I second that!

(Idea- maybe we could set up a 'Red Tent' thread where we share monthly problems and help- might have to set it up in subscriber section though as it'd stray beyond herbs)
This would be great, because there is so much more to it than just what's been discussed on this thread.... I'm thinking, Moon Rites, it's a book that I am reading at the moment :)

cheekyminx
24-01-2008, 23:39
Thanks (again) for all the replies :D

I've got the shits with work LOL So am waiting for things to get sorted out before I can think about anything else. I start my studies on the 11 Feb and am hoping to change my work hours, but nothing has been done about it, yet. But any way....

Thanks again

greenbeans
24-01-2008, 23:39
I want to do this. I think I'd find it helpful and surely so would others...this IS a predominately female forum after all! But...should it go in Chat or Spirituality?? I think it would mainly cover the practicalities but there is a spiritual side too...hmm...

OK, I'm putting it in Spirituality, no doubt a Mod will move it if I'm wrong!

Just to explain:

Many cultures used to seperate women into a tent or hut during their 'time of the month'. Perhaps because menstruation was considered 'taboo' by the menfolk.

In the novel ‘The Red Tent’ by Anita Diamant the women retreat together into the tent once a month to talk and worship together. This presents the monthly retreat as a positive place for women to let off steam, relax, discuss problems, reflect, meditate and tune into their more spiritual and creative side. I really hope this is something the womenfolk of AT will be able to do!

Here's the thread:http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?p=1337418#post1337418

greenbeans
25-01-2008, 00:35
*****

Silverlyn
25-01-2008, 02:16
Wow, look how fast this thread has taken off?:)

YES, I've posted over in The Rent Tent already, Great idea, greenbeans!

I've also more excellent info to post there regarding female issues,etc. too!

Hugs to cheeky for starting this educational, fun thread and hugs to greenbeans for the new thread!

Mods: I think we should have a pinned topic above The Red Tent with the links of helpful products, information regarding certain topics/issues. You can post disclaimers with them as well.

Off to The Red Tent!

Silverlyn