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Umbrae
01-12-2002, 16:30
The woman stepped over to the booth where I was sitting; she was well dressed and coiffed, and carried a look of concern.

"Linda, the bartender told me to talk to you. She said you read cards; can you read mine?"

"It would be an honor."

"I don't believe in this psychic stuff, you know...The only reason I'm talking to you is because Linda spoke so highly of you. She said if anybody could help me find answers, you could.” She slid into the booth

Most people believe that as tarot readers, we are all "psychics". Few are aware that there are different styles of reading. There is (for lack of better terms) the 'mundane reading'. Meanings are ascribed to each card, and to each position that a card is placed. The meanings are translated into a' reading'. Archetypes provide a venue into which the sitter is able to see their life and experiences.

The intuitive (or psychic) reading uses the cards as a focal point - information comes to the reader from "out there" (different folks have different theories on where the knowledge comes from).

Both styles (some will disagree with me, and that is fine) are valid. When I read, it may be either type or both, and my regular clients not only cannot tell, but do not know.

When we read for others, we become a friendly, non-judgmental, listening ear. Frequently the sitter needs a touch of self-assurance in their ability to deal with whatever troubles they have.

No matter which form of reading you use, the reading itself is not science; it is an artful form of communication.

We were in Aunt Harriet's Room, a comfortable dive just north of downtown Seattle. "My name is Monica, I've never done this before...what do you want to know...or do you just tell me the answers...because god knows I need some answers." She sat down, crossing her arms, shoulders pulled inward.

Great...not only a skeptic, but also one who is tense, and has serious issues.

Someone once said that because I had been reading tarot for a while that I had an advantage over other, newer readers. Nothing could be further from the truth.

We spend our lives communicating with others. Much of what we process, is unconscious, the silent language we all use everyday and never ponder. Tarot simply provides us with another avenue of communication. We have another tool to communicate the unseen, regardless of the reading methods we use; and then there is our ability to relate with others.

Monica's words, posture, and attitude had all the alarm bells going off in by head...First, this was going to be a face-to-face reading for a stranger, and I was going to have to get her to trust a psychic, regardless if I am one… in her eyes – I was. Second, I was going to have to show her hope. I did not have to read the cards for her - I knew. However, I would allow the cards to speak to her...

Each sitter has needs and problems; nationalities and ethnic groups may vary, but the individuals within them all share the same fears, problems and life patterns.

All of us, tend to blame others for faults in ourselves that we don't want to face - it is a protective mechanism...and most sitters have a problem that has driven them to you. Many hide their problem, even from themselves...however, the problem is the prime motivating force behind most visits to the reader.

I reached over and opened my bicycle messenger's bag, and removed a black cloth bag containing a deck of tarot cards. As I opened the bag, I saw her face change a little. I had just struck an important point, and she was not aware of it. I slid the dog-eared deck towards her.

I store my decks in their bags in a basket. At the bottom of the basket is a slab of cedar (to prevent insect invasion) and a small bag with a bit of a stick of sandalwood incense and a bunch of Spanish lavender. Your Aunt Bessie always used a lavender scent. The three combined, are subtle, not overpowering, and provide an air of antiquity. The skeptic has just enjoyed an aroma that soothes - places her at ease - perhaps reminded her of a less problematic time in her life.

The deck is well worn, dog-eared, and stained. As she reached over to slide the deck closer, I could see her shoulders slump, just a tad. Point two had been scored.

She began to shuffle. Although the cards are old, they slide and do not stick. They have a peculiar feel to them.

My decks are “prepared”. Each card is placed on a table edge and slid abruptly downward, my free hand holding the sliding card flat on the tabletop. This puts an extreme bend on each card. This is done diagonally, horizontally, and vertically from both sides. It removes the stiffness, so cards do not “shoot out” while shuffling. It also breaks down some of the factory gloss reducing the glossy slide factor. This does not shorten the life span of your deck; in fact, it reduces the probability of creased and folded cards. It does help the deck look “used”.

Most folks have enough trouble shuffling a deck. When we reduce the difficulty by removing stiffness and gloss, it helps put our clients more at ease. A client further becomes more at ease when they see a well-worn deck…Right Out Of The Box does not create a favorable impression for the sitter.

Stains, ragged edges, water spots, are all part of the appearance of a well-used deck…but how do you keep them from sticking? How can I keep using that old favorite?

In your local phone book, hunt down your nearest magicians supply store. Go there and buy “Fanning Powder” (zinc sterate or something like that). Apply liberally to each card, and rub off the excess. Now even your old stained icky deck acts like new…with a twist. The cards now have a definite “different” tactile experience.

Monica was smiling as she shuffled the deck, “How many times do you want me to shuffle?”

Monica was now ready to read for. I had addressed her sense of smell, vision, and feel. I would address her hearing during the reading itself. Once her barriers were ‘softened’, she became more receptive to whichever type of reading it turned out to be.

End Part One.

Although Aunt Harriet’s Room exists, Monica and the fictionalized event is a composite of many – and is not intended to represent an actual person.
Nothing is stated as a recommendation or a suggestion, but merely observation accrued over time. Opinions and results may vary.

MeeWah
01-12-2002, 19:54
Umbrae: WOW! For the wonderful, insightful story. For sharing how one begins to address a client & the needs. In doing so, one puts the person at ease & in a receptive, cooperative frame of mind.

SherryZoned
01-12-2002, 20:05
Dittoing Meewah..I like the part about using all the senses..this makes sense to me.

Jeanette
01-12-2002, 20:53
Oh, this was just getting GOOD! And you stopped! I want the next installment!!!! Very enjoyable, please continue........

Sea Sprite
01-12-2002, 20:59
Umbrae,

WoW!! Very entertaining too! :)

Silverlotus
01-12-2002, 21:21
That was a very informative post, and a pretty good story too. You have weaved a lot of good information into this piece. I am impatiently looking forward to the next part.

Will you consider a similar posting on reading for an overeager person? I'm thinking possibly that some of the things that draw a skeptic in might make a "believer" even more ready to believe in the "magic" of the reading. Those aren't quite the words I'm looking for, but I'm not really sure how to express what I mean.

MystiqueMoonlight
02-12-2002, 00:29
Hhmmm, my sitters indeed.

You raised an interesting point re "mundane reader" and "psychic reader". It leads me to ask you Umbrae before you continue on what is your process in ascerting your reading technique?

Of course you have now gone through a process in this example of reading the sitter before you even begin the process of discovering what the sitter is there for. Does knowing what the sitter has come to you for assist you in evaluating your reading process?

I think I know what you are going to say. But to continue from your previous post I would be interested in hearing your response.

Umbrae
02-12-2002, 04:37
Originally posted by MystiqueMoonlight
Of course you have now gone through a process in this example of reading the sitter before you even begin the process of discovering what the sitter is there for. Does knowing what the sitter has come to you for assist you in evaluating your reading process?

I never know what the sitter is coming to me for (although I use runes to peek sometimes) , nor do I know what kind of reading it will be…

I never know what a reading will be like (whether mundane – intuitive – or both) until it is underway. Then, it can change midstream. All I know, is that each reading is different…Like stock trading – it is an art, not a science.

Stay tuned…more episodes to follow…including reading for the overeager and others…

Trogon
02-12-2002, 07:24
Originally posted by Umbrae
In your local phone book, hunt down your nearest magicians supply store. Go there and buy “Fanning Powder” (zinc sterate or something like that). Apply liberally to each card, and rub off the excess. Now even your old stained icky deck acts like new…with a twist. The cards now have a definite “different” tactile experience.[/i]

This, and the suggestion of pre-stressing a new deck, are great. I'd never thought about this before, though I knew about it. My brother had been a semi-professional magician for many years and used this on all of his decks of cards. Thanks for the reminder....

Looking forward to further installments...

Talisman
02-12-2002, 07:33
'Lo all,

Ditto what Trogon said.

(And this from someone who once confused Mr. Moto with Charlie Chan. Sigh.)

Talisman

Trogon
02-12-2002, 09:23
Originally posted by Talisman
'Lo all,

Ditto what Trogon said.

(And this from someone who once confused Mr. Moto with Charlie Chan. Sigh.)

LOL Talisman... That's okay. I once got into a huge e-mail discussion with a person who kept attributing this Charlie Chan quote to Confucius!

Kiama
02-12-2002, 10:34
Umbrae, as always your writing is impeccable, entertaining, and very very true... A joy to read.

I do have one thing to comment on in depth though: I disagree with your two types of readings. You make the distinction between Mundane and Psychic/Intuitive readings. I do not use Mundane readings, and instead 'say what I see' in the cards, as you describe teh Psychic reading. But I am as psychic as a piece of toast... Is there maybe a third kind of reading which uses the intuition, but cannot be classed as Psychic?

Kiama

Laurel
02-12-2002, 14:44
Umbrae, your post was one of the most personally meaningful things I have ever read on the tarot.

I'm printing it out and saving it. I can't wait for more.

Laurel

Fuzzmello
02-12-2002, 15:08
Umbrae,

Thanks for coming back with this topic. This is really useful and imaginative experience sharing.

Have you ever found that clients such the one you describe are attempting to cover their own nervousness and inexperience?

I've often thought they just want to cover the fact that they know very little about Tarot and want a reading, but are afraid of making mistakes somehow. As if I would laugh at them or something.

I also have people come see me over and over who still start out with, "You know, I really don't believe in all this stuff!" I can't help but notice that they seem to really get into the reading for someone who's supposed to be skeptical. ;)

Anyway, thanks again for the post.

Fuzz

Sulis
02-12-2002, 17:52
I don`t usually ditto but ditto what everyone`s said.

Love and light

Crystalmynx xx

Mystica
02-12-2002, 18:54
((((((Umbrae))))))

Umbrae, Thank You!!!

Your post is just what I have needed to read, that's hard to explain, as I don't express myself as well as you. You are addressing "the process" of reading for others, and this is what I've been asking about in various other posts. It's wonderful and I can't thank you enough.


Vianne

Kazz
02-12-2002, 19:47
Originally posted by Umbrae

Stay tuned…more episodes to follow…including reading for the overeager and others…
Umbrae...I loved it..:D...More, more, more...;)
I am not a very patient person, but I am waiting as patiently as I possibly can....****waiting, waiting**** for the 2nd chapter..



Cheers
Kazz


:TQC

Moonbow*
23-04-2004, 05:56
Bump! :)

ThePlayerOfGames
19-04-2005, 18:44
Excellent process Umbrae! Kiama, interesting point as the way I read seems to be similar to yours although I am still in the early stages of learning the tarot.

EDIT: Rofl, oops this thread is really old :p.

Fairawen
20-04-2005, 03:25
Umbrae, you sly dog. You analzye things more then me, and that's saying something.

Good job, and I look forward to more helpful hints on the readings for others thing.

~Fairawen~

Sinner
20-04-2005, 05:27
We spend our lives communicating with others. Much of what we process, is unconscious, the silent language we all use everyday and never ponder.

I thought this was an interesting claim, can you clarify and perhaps give examples as to why you think this way?

psychic sue
20-04-2005, 06:56
Umbrae - Total Respect.

Sue x

wellspring
20-04-2005, 13:08
Umbrae, really enjoyed reading your post. Fascinating, and beautifully written. Looking forward to the next instalment!
Cat

DarkElectric
20-04-2005, 14:34
The subsequent posts are already here, good people! Someone has resurrected the first in this wonderful and ever so informative series. The wisdom here is invaluable. I suggest you look them up, and read them all. More than once. It's good for you.

Umbrae
20-04-2005, 14:44
ToC (http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10772)

firemaiden
20-04-2005, 14:46
We spend our lives communicating with others. Much of what we process, is unconscious, the silent language we all use everyday and never ponder.


I thought this was an interesting claim, can you clarify and perhaps give examples as to why you think this way?

Actually, Sinner, the notion of the unconscious has already been explained and explored rather well already by Freud and Jung, and the field of psychoanalysis and psychology.

Sinner
20-04-2005, 19:34
So is it just about universal archetypes then?
The wording made it sound like something supernatural to me.
Also, I don't know much, but wasn't it mostly Jung who tried to prove these things and criticise Freud?

Fudugazi
20-04-2005, 19:39
Sinner, if you reread the sentence you quoted you will see it is about non-verbal unconscious communication between individuals, not about archetypes. Both Freud and Jung studied these though they did fall out about certain aspects and interpretations of the unconsious (the subconscious as Freud called it). This is separate from Jung's interest in the "collective unconscious" - and what has been called archetypes, though some dispute these actually exist.

Sinner
20-04-2005, 22:43
Thats what I thought at first, but to me, it sounded more subtle than that. Like something different altogether, so I hestitaed to mention it.
I know theres alot of criticisms but I was just looking for an example of what was meant.

mythos
02-08-2005, 00:32
I was a social worker in the education system here for many years. Most of the people I saw had been sent ot see me because someone else - with more power - had decided that they (the ... in tarot palance, sitter) had a problem.

The whole issue of developing rapport was, arguably, the most important part of the process. Without that ... nothing happens ... communication is blocked.

Because I rarely read for others ... and then, my face-to-face readings are for friends, or people aching for a reading ... I've not had to deal with the sceptic. Nonetheless, old habits die hard, and I am glad of it ... rapport building for the reading experience is as important with a reading as it was in my previous professional life.

You have provided me with some ideas that I hadn't considered. I still see myself more as a socialworker/psychologist who happens to read cards, than a tarot reader who once happened to be a social worker/psychologist. This shift in perception is an important one, I think.

So, again thank you my friend ...

mythos :) :smoker: & coyote X 2

*ariadne*
30-10-2006, 19:53
well deserved bump pt.1

llunnacee
24-05-2009, 19:49
You know I started reading this series completely by "accident" while I was searching for something totally different. But that seems to be the way it goes, right? When the Seeker stops seeking, the answers or directions present themselves. Funny cuz I just got The Hanged Man in a reading...

Anyway, thanks for the little tip on how to 'age' the cards. I was beginning to think I was gonna have to use a scrub brush or brillo pad... My poor, poor Fool card on my Gilded Tarot was the first to get 'seasoned'. I'm not sure he's very happy about that but he looks better.

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