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january
05-12-2002, 02:27
Hey there everyone -

My question is very simple....exactly what are progressions and how are they calculated? Why are they significant? When looking over the "chart options" on astro.com, I see an option for "natal/transits/progressions combined". I can see just from looking at the chart that the progressed positions (in green) have "progressed" about a month from my birthdate (Feb. 10 vs. Jan. 8).

As I'm just beginning to seriously (attempt!) to study astrology, I'm probably just confusing myself with advanced concepts but I just thought I'd ask and tuck the info in my hat for another day!

Minderwiz
05-12-2002, 08:22
A progression is simply a movement of a planet (or sensitive point such as the Ascendant). The Sun progresses about one degree per day, and thus completes a circle of the Zodiac (and your horoscope by transit) in twelve months.

This is the actual measurable movement as laid out in an ephemeris. However there are systems that use this movement in a symbolic way rather than a literal way.

The most commonly used alternative to transits is the system of Secondary Progressions. Instead of the one degree daily movement of the Sun being taken literally, each day is taken symbolically as a year in your life, starting with the planetary positions at your birth, the planetary positions for twenty four hours later is taken symbolically as a chart for you aged one - this can continue through your life - so the 50th complete day after your birth represents you at age 50. The Progressions are read much in the same way as Transits but the Moon becomes much more important. This is because it is the fastest moving planet and as progressions slow everything down by a factor of 365, any changes of Aspects or changes of House by progressed planets are nearly always those made by the Moon. After the Moon, Mercury Venus and the Sun are the next fastest planets and they may change House or Aspect in a year (though it will take the Sun on average 15 years to change signs after your birth and then it will change signs every 30 years or so. The progressed Moon will change signs approximately every year and you will experience the Progressed Moon returning to its starting point in your chart around the age of 29 - 30 - the same time as your first Saturn Return by Transit. Both are taken as important symbols of adulthood and the main stages of our life.

There is usually little point in progressing Uranus, Neptune and Pluto as their progressed position may change little in the equivalent of 70 or 80 years - they may not form any new progressed aspects at all or change house or sign.


There are other progression systems, based on a day for a lunar month or a lunar month for a year. However these are not frequently used compared to Secondary Progressions.

Many Astrologers who specialise in forecasting will look at Progressions in association with Transits. A common view is that Transits will 'release' the energy of Progressions, for example if the Progressed Moon aspects your natal Venus and this in turn is being transited by Mercury, the Mercury transit will activate the Progressed Moon to Venus aspect. If the aspect is an easy one then your popularity, social life, relationships, and appearance will all blossom. You will express yourself in a more harmonious and beautiful way. The point at which the Mercury transit forms an exact aspect to natal Venus or your progressed Moon is the time at which the progression begins to effect you.

There are Astrologers who will argue that Progressions have an internal effect and Transits an external effect so a Transit by Mars will manifest in a different way than a Mars Progression. However this view seems to be losing ground.

Astrologers who specialise in forecasting will probably use the Progressed Moon as a major part of their system, together with the Transits of Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. The Progressed Sun and Progressed Mercury, Venus and Mars may be used in preference to Transits by these planets (whose effects may only last a few days at most).

One of the possible advantages of using progressions is that your entire life is laid out in the first seventy or eighty days after your birth and it can be interpreted using the normal rules of astrology (though with much smaller orbs).

I could say a lot more but I hope the above gives you a general idea.

AquarianGoddess
05-12-2002, 10:00
Minderwiz....very good...but one correction: the progressed Moon changes signs every two and a half years (moving one degree per month.)

January, yes, progressions ARE confusing to pursue while still learning the basics. My suggestion to you is to keep track of your progressed Moon and let the rest go for later. Check to see what, if any aspects the PM is making to your natal planets and to the current transits. I believe it's transiting your 12th house (in Aries.)

I used to write out a list by month (example:
December, 2002-16 deg., 45 min. Aries
January, 2003-17 deg., 45 min Aries, etc)

AG

Minderwiz
05-12-2002, 21:08
AG,

Some good advice there, most of the books I've read on this area do seem to place a great deal of emphasis on the Progressed Moon and the rest of the progressions don't seem to get much of a look in, apart from Progressed Sun and Progressed Ascendant.

Thanks for the correction - I did get the Progressed Moon Return right - I think I edited lots of stuff several time in that area and didn't actually re-read what I wrote -

Honestly, I can divide 29 by 12 its errrrrrrrr, ummmhhhhhhh, 1???

lunalafey
20-03-2003, 03:28
When doing a progression, is the time of birth used again, or is it done at 00:00GMT?
just checking....t.o.b. right?

Minderwiz
20-03-2003, 06:43
Lunalafey

Yes the time of birth is used as the basis for progressions.

In practice Astrologers use basically two approaches. Those of us who have the facility in our Astrology programs simply leave it to the program to calculate. The progressed year given by the program runs from birthday to birthday.

Those who don't have a computer (and all of us before kind people wrote Astrology programs) tend to use a method called the Adjusted Calculation Date, sometimes known as the Perpetual Date. This is quite complex to do the first time round but in effect 'winds' the clock back to the midnight position (actually progresses backward in time), using the day for a year method.

Suppose I was born on 1 October 1947 at 12 Noon, (half way through the day) and my Adjusted Calculation Date is 1 April 1947 (half a year earlier). The latter date corresponds to the progressed midnight position of the planets in the Ephemeris on 1 October. So I can use the first of October positions to do the progressed year from 1 April 1947 to 31 March 1948. The midnight positions on the 2nd of October give me the next progressed year and indeed the midnight positions 54 days after 1 October 1947 will give me the progressed planets for the year 1 April 2002 - 31 March 2003. If a client wishes to talk about a range of years it is dead easy to simply use the Adjusted Calculation Date and take the positions directly from the Ephemeris without calculation. OK the progressed year doesn't run from my birthday but that's a small price to pay for the ease of calculation for every subsequent year of life.