mystery person #286 ~ live female

[franniee]

OK BA is away so I am going live. :D How about a live female. :)

go for it you guys - draw cards for anything you can think of that will give you the proper infor to figure who she is. :D

Newbies very very very welcome...

[celticnoodle]

well, I'm not a newbie---rather an 'oldie', :laugh: but, I like to think a goodie too! :)

so, here goes with my Golden tarot again---(it's close--the others are put away for the time being).

Live female, eh?

WHO IS SHE? 3 coins rx, knight of coins, 9 of wands
she is someone who had a rough start of it, (or is she still?) she went in search of pursuing her dreams, after studying and not getting very far or doing as well as she had hoped there. maybe she had started out doing her particular skill, but felt she needed to move on to re-invent herself or to accomplish more on her own. At any rate, she did go in search of her future, and the 9 of wands shows that she still didn't faire too well there---she's taken quite a beating, and though she is still standing and not giving up, she's not exactly where she is hoping to be.

WHAT IS HER SKILL? 7 coins, judgement rx, page of wands rx
these 3 cards give me the impression that she may be a singer or actress, or someone who uses her voice. She may be patiently waiting for the right moment to make her next appearance.

WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE? 2 coins rx, lovers rx, ace of coins
well, i'm taking the 2 of coins rx literally, and will say that she is slender of build and has blonde hair and fair skin. funny, because i was originally thinking of her having dark hair. the lovers card rx indicates that she is a pretty woman, attractive to the opposite sex, and the ace of coins lends me to believe that she is someone who also shares a part of whom she is with others even at first glance. now, what I mean by this is, there is something about her that stands out as soon as you see her---and something she may be noted for. like a particular hair style, or perhaps tattoos or a piercing.

I keep getting the feeling she is that young lady from Ireland who has appeared on American Idol---Carly Smithson?

thanks, franniee, for hosting! :)

[franniee]

well, I'm not a newbie---rather an 'oldie', :laugh: but, I like to think a goodie too! :)

so, here goes with my Golden tarot again---(it's close--the others are put away for the time being).

Live female, eh?

Always a goodie! :)

WHO IS SHE? 3 coins rx, knight of coins, 9 of wands
she is someone who had a rough start of it, (or is she still?) she went in search of pursuing her dreams, after studying and not getting very far or doing as well as she had hoped there. maybe she had started out doing her particular skill, but felt she needed to move on to re-invent herself or to accomplish more on her own. At any rate, she did go in search of her future, and the 9 of wands shows that she still didn't faire too well there---she's taken quite a beating, and though she is still standing and not giving up, she's not exactly where she is hoping to be.

She didn't have a rough start and she is doing well now... quite well. nuh uh. Sorry Celt.


WHAT IS HER SKILL? 7 coins, judgement rx, page of wands rx
these 3 cards give me the impression that she may be a singer or actress, or someone who uses her voice. She may be patiently waiting for the right moment to make her next appearance.

nope

WHAT DOES SHE LOOK LIKE? 2 coins rx, lovers rx, ace of coins
well, i'm taking the 2 of coins rx literally, and will say that she is slender of build and has blonde hair and fair skin. funny, because i was originally thinking of her having dark hair. the lovers card rx indicates that she is a pretty woman, attractive to the opposite sex, and the ace of coins lends me to believe that she is someone who also shares a part of whom she is with others even at first glance. now, what I mean by this is, there is something about her that stands out as soon as you see her---and something she may be noted for. like a particular hair style, or perhaps tattoos or a piercing.

I keep getting the feeling she is that young lady from Ireland who has appeared on American Idol---Carly Smithson?

thanks, franniee, for hosting! :)


she is slender and her hair is light and she is beautiful. yes she shares. OH yes she stands out.

no not carly.... she is older than me. :)

[celticnoodle]

whew! what a stinker of a reading! :laugh: I may be "always a goodie", (thanks!), but right now also a stinker of a reader---maybe I should go and dig out a different deck!

will be back and try again.................thanks for the feedback.

[tarot4fun]

Thanks for a game Franniee~ :D
I'm older that Celt~ :bugeyed: Here goes nothing~ :rolleyes:


Sharman-Caselli ~ Six of Wands and Four of Wands

This is some kind of triumph, did she win an award or is she noted for a significant achievement?

Are horses important to her?

You said she is beautiful, but is she a little boyish?

Does she come from an arid climate?

The triumph came before the establishment ~ did she have to prove herself before she was given the reins to a company, or her inheritance? She seems to have the approval & love of the people.

I don't know why, but Jodie Foster came to mind~

[WolfSinger]

OK, i pulled 3 cards from the Bright Idea deck for this --- whoever she is, she doesn't look like someone i'd like to try to get close to! :laugh:

Where she comes from -- Judgement ("Examination")
In this deck the image is of a mouthful of teeth where one is going to be pulled by a dentist. All i can think of is that when i was growing up my orthodontist's office was in Beverly Hills, so i'll go with that, or at least well-to-do Southern California.

How she appears -- Five of Fire/Wands (Red 5, "Confrontation")
Not a soft figure, that's for sure. More somebody whose contentance lets you know that they mean business.

What she's known for -- 2 of Fire/Wands (Red 2, "Conflict")
My first thought was that she does what she pleases no matter who she ticks off. But maybe the cards are indicating that she is some sort of arbiter of conflict.

I'm thinking of a Rikki Lake type talk show host, or maybe Judge Judy?

[missy]

Have not yet read what anyone else wrote ...

What is she known for? Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands - Ambition, career, victory, acclaim, per the six of wands; per the lovers, I'd say she had to make some choices during this lifetime that have been important ones; I'm not sure whether an actual "lover" is involved. Not sure if there is some great love in her life that is well-known; do not know either way. She is a visionary, a leader. She does not let short-term problems or things in the present bog her down. She stays focused on her long-term goals and meets with success.

What are some key events in her life? Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - She is a giving person. She has a lot of money and material wealth, but she is a person who has stayed on solid ground. She likely does charity work. She may work with children.

Anything else you can tell me about her? The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death - She is seen as a wise teacher or mentor. She may also been seen as part of the establishment; as conservative. She has reached the top in her field. There may be major changes upcoming in her life, or which she might have passed through.

I don't have any guesses yet.

[missy]

More, later ...

Trying to add to additional information from the cards I pulled before.
Same cards, just going over them again.

What is she known for?
Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands

Wands indicate games of competition. I wonder if she is involved in sports. The Lovers could represent a healer. Or, it represents a significant choice she had to make. Or again, perhaps a great love in her life.

Key events in her life:
Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - An abundance of cups here indicates artistic, creative. This includes artists, musicians, psychics. I am guessing she is known for more than one thing, as artists/musicians is different from someone involved in sports. So perhaps this is a multi-talented individual. The Queen of Pentacles is a businesswoman; a shrewd, talented, creative woman of wealth. However, she is also concerned with the welfare of others and is a nurturing, down-to-earth person. She can be a benefactor or a philanthropist. The Queen of Cups has a love of music and art. She also has a love for animals.

Anything else you want to tell me about her?
The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death

Hierophant: A teacher; someone who passes on her knowledge to a new generation.
Death - She is either an agent of change, or undergoing a great change, or has effected great changes during her lifetime.
10 of Pentacles - Ancestral ties; lineage. She is tied to an important family.

Still no guesses!

Edit: Sorry I am so scattered; thoughts are just scattered today, so my read is all over the place!

[franniee]

Thanks for a game Franniee~ :D
I'm older that Celt~ :bugeyed: Here goes nothing~ :rolleyes:


Sharman-Caselli ~ Six of Wands and Four of Wands

This is some kind of triumph, did she win an award or is she noted for a significant achievement?

Are horses important to her?

You said she is beautiful, but is she a little boyish?

Does she come from an arid climate?

The triumph came before the establishment ~ did she have to prove herself before she was given the reins to a company, or her inheritance? She seems to have the approval & love of the people.

I don't know why, but Jodie Foster came to mind~

Suz all this is good.... she is not jodie foster... older.

[franniee]

OK, i pulled 3 cards from the Bright Idea deck for this --- whoever she is, she doesn't look like someone i'd like to try to get close to! :laugh:

Where she comes from -- Judgement ("Examination")
In this deck the image is of a mouthful of teeth where one is going to be pulled by a dentist. All i can think of is that when i was growing up my orthodontist's office was in Beverly Hills, so i'll go with that, or at least well-to-do Southern California.

How she appears -- Five of Fire/Wands (Red 5, "Confrontation")
Not a soft figure, that's for sure. More somebody whose contentance lets you know that they mean business.

What she's known for -- 2 of Fire/Wands (Red 2, "Conflict")
My first thought was that she does what she pleases no matter who she ticks off. But maybe the cards are indicating that she is some sort of arbiter of conflict.

I'm thinking of a Rikki Lake type talk show host, or maybe Judge Judy?

Nope not them - she did not grow up in so Cal. Altougth she looks a bit like she would. She is a force to be reckoned - she is very bright and her countenance does let you know she means business...but not in a judge judy way. :) She is an arbiter. Good!

[franniee]

Have not yet read what anyone else wrote ...

What is she known for? Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands - Ambition, career, victory, acclaim, per the six of wands; per the lovers, I'd say she had to make some choices during this lifetime that have been important ones; I'm not sure whether an actual "lover" is involved. Not sure if there is some great love in her life that is well-known; do not know either way. She is a visionary, a leader. She does not let short-term problems or things in the present bog her down. She stays focused on her long-term goals and meets with success.[/QUOTE

Great cards for her.... there was a great love of her life - and he did change her path dramatically! She is focused and tenacious.

[QUOTE=missy_]What are some key events in her life? Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - She is a giving person. She has a lot of money and material wealth, but she is a person who has stayed on solid ground. She likely does charity work. She may work with children.

AWESOME!

Anything else you can tell me about her? The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death - She is seen as a wise teacher or mentor. She may also been seen as part of the establishment; as conservative. She has reached the top in her field. There may be major changes upcoming in her life, or which she might have passed through.

I don't have any guesses yet.

She passed through them... :) Excellent Missy!

[franniee]

More, later ...

Trying to add to additional information from the cards I pulled before.
Same cards, just going over them again.

What is she known for?
Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands

Wands indicate games of competition. I wonder if she is involved in sports. The Lovers could represent a healer. Or, it represents a significant choice she had to make. Or again, perhaps a great love in her life.

Key events in her life:
Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - An abundance of cups here indicates artistic, creative. This includes artists, musicians, psychics. I am guessing she is known for more than one thing, as artists/musicians is different from someone involved in sports. So perhaps this is a multi-talented individual. The Queen of Pentacles is a businesswoman; a shrewd, talented, creative woman of wealth. However, she is also concerned with the welfare of others and is a nurturing, down-to-earth person. She can be a benefactor or a philanthropist. The Queen of Cups has a love of music and art. She also has a love for animals.

Anything else you want to tell me about her?
The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death

Hierophant: A teacher; someone who passes on her knowledge to a new generation.
Death - She is either an agent of change, or undergoing a great change, or has effected great changes during her lifetime.
10 of Pentacles - Ancestral ties; lineage. She is tied to an important family.

Still no guesses!

Edit: Sorry I am so scattered; thoughts are just scattered today, so my read is all over the place!

All this is perfect for her! Great Missy!!

[franniee]

WHO IS SHE? 3 coins rx, knight of coins, 9 of wands
she is someone who had a rough start of it, (or is she still?) she went in search of pursuing her dreams, after studying and not getting very far or doing as well as she had hoped there. maybe she had started out doing her particular skill, but felt she needed to move on to re-invent herself or to accomplish more on her own. At any rate, she did go in search of her future, and the 9 of wands shows that she still didn't faire too well there---she's taken quite a beating, and though she is still standing and not giving up, she's not exactly where she is hoping to be.

Actually Celt she did suffer a set back! A large one - she did persevere. She is that type. She transformed her self and is doing well - I would never consider her a failure - she was further upset by something else but she is a strong person. Tenacious - Stands tall!

[celticnoodle]

Okay, thanks for the additional feedback/update franniee. now, I'm going to try again, with the Tarot of the Saints. My newest deck that I've brought out, so, let me try this.

A little about this woman:
Queen of Cups, (St. Claire), 8 of coins, The Lovers, (St. Valentines)

A woman who is very giving and loving and as we already know she is involved in community services, (right?). St. Claire was a woman who did all she could to help the poor, and she is also the patron saint for those who embroider, gilders, goldsmiths, and television, and the patron of those in eye health. Leads me to believe she is a television star--actress? The 8 of coins shows Jesus and Joseph working together to build a home, so it got me to wondering if this woman is involved in helping to rebuild places that have been destroyed? (like LA) and very involved in that. Then, the last card, the Lovers was a bit of surprise to me, as St. Valentine apparently was in love with a blind girl, so it makes me wonder if our MP has eye problems? or is very involved with the blind somehow?

The Tower, (St. Barbara); Ace of cups, 6 of swords rx
The Tower indicates that our MP was transformed, when she was faced with a major situation, where she was able to help someone who was being prosecuted against. She may have also caught some flack for this--but she did all she could to still help and protect this person(s).

CAREER: 2 CUPS, 7 SWORDS, 5 STAFFS
The 2 of cups suggests that our MP has a partner in her career. The 7 of swords can suggest that her career is wrapped around communication and also becoming more and more popular--her career is probably taking off now. The last card, the 5 of staffs does show a bit of challenges for her to go through, or she is currently going through, and it hasn't been all easy for her either. I am wondering if she is a newscaster? or hosts a talk show?

okay, I believe we have already done this lady, and I'm sure I am wrong, but what the heck---Barbara Walters?

[franniee]

A little about this woman:
Queen of Cups, (St. Claire), 8 of coins, The Lovers, (St. Valentines)

A woman who is very giving and loving and as we already know she is involved in community services, (right?). St. Claire was a woman who did all she could to help the poor, and she is also the patron saint for those who embroider, gilders, goldsmiths, and television, and the patron of those in eye health. Leads me to believe she is a television star--actress? The 8 of coins shows Jesus and Joseph working together to build a home, so it got me to wondering if this woman is involved in helping to rebuild places that have been destroyed? (like LA) and very involved in that. Then, the last card, the Lovers was a bit of surprise to me, as St. Valentine apparently was in love with a blind girl, so it makes me wonder if our MP has eye problems? or is very involved with the blind somehow?

not an actress. YES she does help to rebuild. Probably involved with the blind. Her eyesight was good.


The Tower, (St. Barbara); Ace of cups, 6 of swords rx
The Tower indicates that our MP was transformed, when she was faced with a major situation, where she was able to help someone who was being prosecuted against. She may have also caught some flack for this--but she did all she could to still help and protect this person(s).


YEs she was transformed. She constantly transforms.

CAREER: 2 CUPS, 7 SWORDS, 5 STAFFS
The 2 of cups suggests that our MP has a partner in her career. The 7 of swords can suggest that her career is wrapped around communication and also becoming more and more popular--her career is probably taking off now. The last card, the 5 of staffs does show a bit of challenges for her to go through, or she is currently going through, and it hasn't been all easy for her either. I am wondering if she is a newscaster? or hosts a talk show?

okay, I believe we have already done this lady, and I'm sure I am wrong, but what the heck---Barbara Walters?


Not babha WahWah... not a newscaster - not a talk show host - she doesn't have a career that is taking off per se.

[celticnoodle]

well, sheesh franniee! i'm stumped! thanks for the feedback, but man, I just cannot think of who this could be. back to the drawing board!

[franniee]

OK she grew up privileged. Private schools etc. Then she married very very very well! :D


She was a force in her own right - went to the best schools and was wealthy - she worked in a profession then married and all of that changed - transformed....made her who she is now.

She is 10 years older than I am. :)

[missy]

Hi frannniee. :)

You said a lot of mine was on target but could you please point to specifics, as I said a lot of stuff ... :laugh: so maybe you could cue me in on which things I said that were correct? Thank you. :)

I know there is a huge difference between being a teacher, being involved in sports, being an artist, being a musician, being somehow a guide or mentor, being a healer. Help! :D

[missy]

Oh, and franniee, please, please don't give it away yet. :party:

I still want another chance to read. :D

I can't read tonight, though, as my decks are all being bathed in moonlight! :TMOON So it will have to wait until tomorrow ... or, maybe later tonight I will steal one deck off the windowsill and read with it. })

[franniee]

Have not yet read what anyone else wrote ...

What is she known for? Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands - Ambition, career, victory, acclaim, per the six of wands; per the lovers, I'd say she had to make some choices during this lifetime that have been important ones; I'm not sure whether an actual "lover" is involved. Not sure if there is some great love in her life that is well-known; do not know either way. She is a visionary, a leader. She does not let short-term problems or things in the present bog her down. She stays focused on her long-term goals and meets with success.

All of this is true.

What are some key events in her life? Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - She is a giving person. She has a lot of money and material wealth, but she is a person who has stayed on solid ground. She likely does charity work. She may work with children.

Absolutely ALL true! Very grounded - always was! Highly intelligent and evolved. :)

Anything else you can tell me about her? The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death - She is seen as a wise teacher or mentor. She may also been seen as part of the establishment; as conservative. She has reached the top in her field. There may be major changes upcoming in her life, or which she might have passed through.

All true except the future which remains to be seen. :)

What is she known for?
Six of Wands, The Lovers, Three of Wands

Wands indicate games of competition. I wonder if she is involved in sports. The Lovers could represent a healer. Or, it represents a significant choice she had to make. Or again, perhaps a great love in her life.

There was a great love in her life....who transformed her. :) She is not a doctor or traditional healer but she is spiritual.

Key events in her life:
Queen of Pentacles, Queen of Cups, Six of Cups - An abundance of cups here indicates artistic, creative. This includes artists, musicians, psychics. I am guessing she is known for more than one thing, as artists/musicians is different from someone involved in sports. So perhaps this is a multi-talented individual. The Queen of Pentacles is a businesswoman; a shrewd, talented, creative woman of wealth. However, she is also concerned with the welfare of others and is a nurturing, down-to-earth person. She can be a benefactor or a philanthropist. The Queen of Cups has a love of music and art. She also has a love for animals.

She is multi talented. I can't imagine anything she can't do if she sets her mind to it. She has a love of music and art and animals and she is nurturing and down to earth - she is a philanthropist! All true!!!

Anything else you want to tell me about her?
The Hierophant, 10 of Pentacles, Death

Hierophant: A teacher; someone who passes on her knowledge to a new generation.
Death - She is either an agent of change, or undergoing a great change, or has effected great changes during her lifetime.
10 of Pentacles - Ancestral ties; lineage. She is tied to an important family.

Still no guesses!

Edit: Sorry I am so scattered; thoughts are just scattered today, so my read is all over the place!

She is generous and does pass her knowledge and her way to others. She is tied to two important families - her birth family and the family she married into. :) Her charity work does make great changes. :)

You see Missy your entire reading was spot on! ALL of it!

[star-lover]

BASE - STAR
A shining light, hope and inspiration to others - feel some self sacrifice here

LOOKS - 4 OF WANDS
Pretty, petite, groomed

PERSONALITY - 2 OF WANDS
Courageous, confident, show off, achiever and motivator

CAREER - WORLD
Made it, successful, loved her job and calling

PERSONAL - HANGED MAN
Unhappy in love life

SOMETHING SPECIAL - 2 OF CUPS
Brought people together, love and romance figure largely in her life in some way

Im thinking chat show host or counsellor something like that

[franniee]

BASE - STAR
A shining light, hope and inspiration to others - feel some self sacrifice here

LOOKS - 4 OF WANDS
Pretty, petite, groomed

PERSONALITY - 2 OF WANDS
Courageous, confident, show off, achiever and motivator

CAREER - WORLD
Made it, successful, loved her job and calling

PERSONAL - HANGED MAN
Unhappy in love life

SOMETHING SPECIAL - 2 OF CUPS
Brought people together, love and romance figure largely in her life in some way

Im thinking chat show host or counsellor something like that

its interesting that all of you are picking up a tv personality or talk show host... not even close... I don't know if she was unhappy in her love life. He did pass away and that also changed her life. She did galvanize people but not as a match maker - in her charity pursuits.....

all of the rest is perfect. :)

Come on, she is more than you think.

[Callistabell]

Pulled four cards from my victorian romantic,
The Tower
The Lovers
The High Priestess
Justice

An unexpected disruption, a decision to make, secrets and hidden feelings, and the LAW (she's a lawyer or someone something to do with law.)

It's Hillary Clinton, I think.

[franniee]

Pulled four cards from my victorian romantic,
The Tower
The Lovers
The High Priestess
Justice

An unexpected disruption, a decision to make, secrets and hidden feelings, and the LAW (she's a lawyer or someone something to do with law.)

It's Hillary Clinton, I think.


not hill and she did have an issue with the law but unfortunately for her the law was changed....she tried to fight it but it didn't work out.

her husband died and that was her world crumbling apart.

[celticnoodle]

the guess of Hillary Clinton got me to thinking---could this MP be a politician? or did we already ask this?

[franniee]

the guess of Hillary Clinton got me to thinking---could this MP be a politician? or did we already ask this?

not a politician in the classic sense..... hmmmm not sure how to best answer this question. Missy said I have to be careful not to give it away so I will be quiet now.... her career is the key

[missy]

Going back to my cards I pulled earlier, has she ever been a singer or an artist? Is she at all known in Hollywood? I know you said she had never been an actress ... ever, right?

[franniee]

Going back to my cards I pulled earlier, has she ever been a singer or an artist? Is she at all known in Hollywood? I know you said she had never been an actress ... ever, right?


that is true she is not known for being a performer in the least! Not singer, actor, stage personality, TV etc.... she became KNOWN when she married....

[missy]

And you said she had a fair complexion and light hair, so I am assuming fair skin, blonde hair, and blue eyes?

[star-lover]

i was going to say shirley mcclaine but read she wasnt an actress
someone like that?

[franniee]

Missy YES Star NO. :)

Not someone who performs for a living. Someone who was thrust into the limelight....

[EarthFaery]

Better late than never:)

3Cups/Star
A party girl maybe? A free spirit, usually seen having lots of fun, laughing and having a good time, she has a strong celebrity status. Long blonde hair and somewhat mysterious. I keep going back and forth between long hair and short choppy hair, I can’t decide which but definitely blonde.

Chariot/Hanged Man
She has to work hard to keep good balance, maybe a little bit of good girl and a little bit of bad girl, she likes to keep herself right in the middle, she doesn’t dwell over hardships. She doesn’t like to make sacrifices. Did she have to go undercover for a while or something, meaning out of the public eye for a bit? I feel like she has this “oh well” type attitude.

8Swords rx/5Swords
Some troubles with her career, she suddenly came to a realization that she needs to get things going in the right direction. I don’t think she’s found her place, although she’s put in some effort it might not have been enough, maybe she’s hit a brick wall in the past, most likely of her own doing and now she is trying to get on the right track.

Strength/2Pents
She comes from a pretty strong, tight family, they like to have fun, I wonder if she goes back and forth between 2 different places, maybe a place here and a place there. There might be one particular family member she is close with.

9Pents/2Cups
I get the feeling there is something going on with her finances, does she have some kind of trust fund or someone close to her that gives her financial security? These 2 cards make me think she has quite a bit of money that comes from a 2nd party.

I don’t know, I have to read feedback to see where I’m at here.

[rcb30872]

OK, here goes

Using Forest Folklore

Job ~ Queen of Cups
I would say that she is in between jobs, as such.

Personality ~ Nine of Swords
I would say she feels somewhat trapped. The thought of her being in prison, or has been in prison springs to mind.

Outlook ~ Four of Cups
Drawn into herself, depressed, doesn't notice that much that goes on around her, perhaps.

Any thing else ~ Death
Goes back to what someone else said, in the fact that they have been transformed.

I would say that it is Princess Mary of Denmark formerly known as Miss Mary Elizabeth Donaldson

Maybe not, since her husband is alive, just read through it, husband of the mystery person is dead.

[EarthFaery]

I'm going to guess Teresa Heinz (Kerry) for the heck of it:)

lol, she doesn't have blonde hair though

eta: she doesn't quite fit, too old I think.

[franniee]

Better late than never:)

3Cups/Star
A party girl maybe? A free spirit, usually seen having lots of fun, laughing and having a good time, she has a strong celebrity status. Long blonde hair and somewhat mysterious. I keep going back and forth between long hair and short choppy hair, I can’t decide which but definitely blonde.

Her hair is to her shoulders. She is 56-57. She is a stunner in my book and I am critical. She is not a party girl - she is depicted smiling and has a sunny disposition - she is ever hopeful and nothing keeps her down for long. She is well known and I think she is mysterious.

Chariot/Hanged Man
She has to work hard to keep good balance, maybe a little bit of good girl and a little bit of bad girl, she likes to keep herself right in the middle, she doesn’t dwell over hardships. She doesn’t like to make sacrifices. Did she have to go undercover for a while or something, meaning out of the public eye for a bit? I feel like she has this “oh well” type attitude.

She has been undercover a lot.... she is in the public eye not because she wants to be - it is her duty. :)

8Swords rx/5Swords
Some troubles with her career, she suddenly came to a realization that she needs to get things going in the right direction. I don’t think she’s found her place, although she’s put in some effort it might not have been enough, maybe she’s hit a brick wall in the past, most likely of her own doing and now she is trying to get on the right track.

She suffered a major setback when her husband died.

Strength/2Pents
She comes from a pretty strong, tight family, they like to have fun, I wonder if she goes back and forth between 2 different places, maybe a place here and a place there. There might be one particular family member she is close with.

YES!

9Pents/2Cups
I get the feeling there is something going on with her finances, does she have some kind of trust fund or someone close to her that gives her financial security? These 2 cards make me think she has quite a bit of money that comes from a 2nd party.

I don’t know, I have to read feedback to see where I’m at here.


Probably! Ths is all good! I know she was wealthy in her own right....probably does have a trust fund from her family but also has wealth from her husband.

Good SMV!

[franniee]

OK, here goes

Using Forest Folklore

Job ~ Queen of Cups
I would say that she is in between jobs, as such.

she has many roles.

Personality ~ Nine of Swords
I would say she feels somewhat trapped. The thought of her being in prison, or has been in prison springs to mind.

A kind of prison but not in the classic sense.

Outlook ~ Four of Cups
Drawn into herself, depressed, doesn't notice that much that goes on around her, perhaps.

Hmmmmm not sure about this one. Not sure how to check on it either...let's say she is not known to stay down.

Any thing else ~ Death
Goes back to what someone else said, in the fact that they have been transformed.

I would say that it is Princess Mary of Denmark formerly known as Miss Mary Elizabeth Donaldson

Maybe not, since her husband is alive, just read through it, husband of the mystery person is dead.

not princess Mary but that was a good guess. :thumbsup:

[franniee]

I'm going to guess Teresa Heinz (Kerry) for the heck of it:)

lol, she doesn't have blonde hair though

eta: she doesn't quite fit, too old I think.

nope

come on you guys I just gave you very very detailed feedback.... I know you can do it!!!

OH and tell me when you want me to throw in the towel. :)

[rcb30872]

Is it Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, formerly known as Camilla Parker Bowles?

[franniee]

Is it Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, formerly known as Camilla Parker Bowles?

Bec you are doing well!!!

she is a royal..... married into it but not from england or an english royal - she was born in the US...... :D

[rcb30872]

she is a royal..... married into it but not from england or an english royal - she was born in the US...... :D
Oh that makes it difficult! Being from England but Australian, oh well, I will get my thinking cap on....... Not sure if I can think of who it will be mind you.

[celticnoodle]

Queen Noor? married the Jordan prince or king?

married King Hussein! she was born in 1951-(but I thought she was older) and to be honest, I'd have never thought of her, but the hubby knew it. also, I thought she was a brunette.

[Neely75]

I think you're onto something there, celticnoodle. I've been searching all over because I knew of her, but couldn't think of her name!

How's the little grandbaby doing?

[missy]

Franniee, I feel like a daft American, but here I go; let's throw dynamite down the chute and do a Celtic Cross! :laugh:

It isn't as though you haven't given us enough clues; my poor addled brain just must not know enough people or my history well enough; at any rate I am a blank so I am just going to do a throw and besides, it will give me a chance to practice my Celtic Cross, which is in sore need of practice. :D

Sorry I didn't get on yesterday; had horrible migraine which is threatening to come back tonight but I will take that to the Train Rehab thread. I know I did ask you not to reveal it, so felt slightly guilty yesterday when I did not get on and try to guess.

So here is my Celtic Cross; the question being, Who is the Mystery Person?

1. Heart of the matter or present environment - Queen of Swords Rx - Knowing that this person is probably a good person, I went instead with the more shadowy readings of the upright position rather than full-blown reversal. This would be a women who has suffered yet remains strong and courageous.

2. That which crosses her (opposing or reinforcing factor) - The Hermit - From what you have said, this woman is a teacher, a spiritual guide of sorts.

3. Root cause/unconscious influence - Seven of Swords Rx - This person has a decisive and realistic attitude. A dreamer who has found a realistic way to make her dream a reality.

4. Past - Judgement - This woman hears an inner calling to act, to make a difference in the world, and listens and acts on her inner calling. There was a time of transition and new direction which led to a new life for her.

5. Attitudes, Goals or Purpose - The Star Rx - She has faith in the future, although there may have been some delays.

6. Future - Six of Pentacles - Having or not having: resources, knowledge, power. She is in a position to grant people what she chooses to grant them; she makes decisions that some people or organizations are granted money or resources. She may be more spiritually available to some than to others.

7. She as she is, or as she could be - The Emperor Rx - Something is preventing her from progressing at the rate she would like. She had a timeframe in mind. Royalty is indicated, though in an indirect way.

8. You as others see you, or outside environment "That which surrounds you" - Knight of Swords - Direct, Authoritative, Incisive, Knowledgeable, Logical - appears to match up to what Franniee has said before about this person.

9. Hopes and fears - 9 of Wands - Persuasiveness, Stamina - I am getting nothing here. Obviously we know she is a persuasive person, etc. from what Franniee said.

10. Outcome - King of Pentacles Rx - I wonder if this has to do with her husband who died? Did her life change drastically after that happened? Sorry if I missed this in the hints.

Franniee, please do not feel the need to respond to this; I was mostly just practicing my Celtic Cross. :D

Again no guesses; off to google!

[missy]

ETA, celticnoodle, off to Google Queen Noor ... I swear, I know nothing of royalty!

ETA: Okay, after googling Queen Noor, if it is here, and it certainly fits, the King of Pentacles Rx clearly seems to point to Prince Hamzah being stripped of his title of Jordan's next-in-line.

[franniee]

:D Thank you Celticnoodle !!!!!!!

Awesome!!! YES it is queen Noor!

Queen Noor was born Lisa Najeeb Halaby. She is the daughter of Najeeb Halaby, a former CEO of Pan-American World Airways, one time head of the Federal Aviation Administration, and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, and his first wife, Doris Carlquist.

she is the dowager queen of jordan - a philanthropist and an accomplished woman in her own right.


YIPPPPPPPEEEEEEEE CELT!!!!

did I make this one overly hard or something? What happened here? Is she a hard one?

[missy]

Franniee, no, I don't think it was overly hard; I just don't know my royalty (or important people) as I should. I'm not that great a guesser anyway; I'm better at drawing cards for clues than the final guess. Congrats, celticnoodle! :thumbsup:

[The crowned one]

Hey I just got here!

My first guess would have been HM Queen Anne-Marie so I would have been wrong anyways after reading the clues...her husband buys her daisy's rather then growing them.

[celticnoodle]

How's the little grandbaby doing? aw, thanks neely75 for asking. she is getting cuter by the hour! of course, being so far away, we can only visit via phone, and my dau. puts me on speaker phone so I can talk to her and sing to her. so far, she doesn't truly know what to think of that, but at least she doesn't cry! :laugh:

[celticnoodle]

:D Thank you Celticnoodle !!!!!!!

Awesome!!! YES it is queen Noor!

Queen Noor was born Lisa Najeeb Halaby. She is the daughter of Najeeb Halaby, a former CEO of Pan-American World Airways, one time head of the Federal Aviation Administration, and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, and his first wife, Doris Carlquist.

she is the dowager queen of jordan - a philanthropist and an accomplished woman in her own right.


YIPPPPPPPEEEEEEEE CELT!!!!

did I make this one overly hard or something? What happened here? Is she a hard one?

yeah a toughie, but that is okay, franniee, these tough ones keep us working hard! I would never have guessed, till your clue to bec-
Bec you are doing well!!!

she is a royal..... married into it but not from england or an english royal - she was born in the US...... I tried to google other royals who married americans, and kept coming up with everything BUT!...so I asked the husband. smarty pants--he guessed her right off!

I guess I can throw the cards away and just ask him from now on! :laugh:

[rcb30872]

Congratulations celticnoodle!

Of course I wouldn't have known that, honestly!

[EarthFaery]

Congrats CN! I've never heard of her:laugh:

[celticnoodle]

thank you all. I'm trying to think of an MP for the next game, #287, so stay tuned! ;)

[celticnoodle]

okay, come find game #287--up and running!