strange occurence - 'disappearing' Qn Wands

[jenessa]

Today i received the 'Tarot Lovers' Tarot boxed set from amazon.ca. & When i was looking thru the cards, i noticed that the 9 & 10 of Wands were missing. So then I seperated the cards into four suit piles, and also a pile for the majors, and went thru them all to see if any other cards were missing. & As it turned out, the other three suits were complete, and so were the majors.

So then I looked thru the suit of wands again. Same thing, both the 9 & 10 were missing.

So then I looked thru the majors, and the other three piles (suit of cups, swords, coins), just to make sure I hadn't overlooked anything. Again they were all complete, in the sense that there were 22 majors, and 14 cards for each suit, excepting the wands.

So then I counted off the entire deck, and sure enough only 76 cards.

Then i looked thru the suit of wands, one last time, before putting the deck back in the box, but this time the X of Wands was present. So i thot to myself that maybe the cards were stuck together, and just needed more handling re: turning up the two cards that had been missing. So i kept handling the suit of wands, and otherwise went thru them again, and low & behold the Queen of Wands had disappeared.

Now i'm not to sure what to think? As i say, i'd noted (literally wrote down) that both the 9 & 10 of Wands were missing. Indeed, i noticed that the last pip in the suit of wands was the VIII, then nothing until the Courts, and all four of them were there. BUT then the last time I handled this suit, the Queen was missing.

In any event, I did all this around Noon, so I was wide awake, not to mention, that I opened the package of my kitchen counter and no cards were dropped, etc. & Even tho I didn't drop any cards I checked the floor, etc. But no, I couldn't find her!

Bottom line - @ first i WAS missing the IX & X of Wands .. but by the time I was done, I AM missing the IX & Queen of Wands. Like is this weird or what? It was almost like the Queen decided to disappear &/or morph into the X Wands.

Anyone else ever experienced this type of strange occurence? & No, i'm not on any drugs, nor do I suffer from any type of medical condition that would impair either my eye sight or my mental faculties. So for the life of me I can't figure out how this happened.

Not to mention, that I was disappointed, cuz i've been wanting to see this deck in print for a long time. Indeed, I almost kept this set, and would have, if it had only been missing one card, cuz I would have substituted the publishers card for the missing card.

In any event, I sent it back to amazon for a replacement, and also sent an email to schiffer books who publishes this set, just to let them know that i'd received an incomplete set, tho i never mentioned the disappearing act to them.

& Speaking of this disappearing act, I can't help but wonder what the significance could be? &/or: If there would be a way to read this Queen in relation to the 10 of Wands, that would shed some light on this mystery? Thots anyone?

 

[nisaba]

Sounds to me as if the new deck needed a lot of shuffling. The laminate might have been slightly sticky, allowing cards to cling to each other. It happens from time to time. It very occasionally even happens with older decks.

For a new deck, I'd suggest going through the deck one card at a time, peeling each card off the deck by hand and thumbing the corner of the card to make sure it isn't adhering to another before putting it down. Do this right the way through the deck.

 

[jenessa]

Sounds to me as if the new deck needed a lot of shuffling. The laminate might have been slightly sticky, allowing cards to cling to each other. It happens from time to time. It very occasionally even happens with older decks.

For a new deck, I'd suggest going through the deck one card at a time, peeling each card off the deck by hand and thumbing the corner of the card to make sure it isn't adhering to another before putting it down. Do this right the way through the deck.

Altho I didn't shuffle the cards, I did seperate them and go thru them many times re: checking to see if they were all there. Tho I will take your advice re: thumbing the corners, if the replacement deck appears to be missing any cards. Not to mention, but should the need arise in the future, I will also make a point of turning the cards over & checking the backs.

In any event, I can't help but feel there was a "lesson" in the cards, with regard to what I experienced. & As i've noted that some people do new deck interviews, or spreads to try & discover the strengths & weakness of a deck, i've thot a bit about the cards in question and have come up with the following:

-- 9 & 10 of Wands appeared to be missing.
-- I saw the Qn. of Wands both times I looked thru the suit of wands, tho not the last time.
-- The last time I checked the suit of wands, the 10 of Wands was present.
-- Thus in a nutshell: the 9 of Wands remained constant, in the sense that it remained missing; The Qn. of Wands disappeared; & 10 Wands put in an appearance.

Because 9 Wands remained hidden, i`m viewing it as negatively aspected. Also because this card remained constant (in it`s absence), I feel this card represents the issue.
9 Wands negatively aspected:
-- finding oneself `on edge`;
-- A relationship or situation where one force, is more dominant than the other;
-- the presence of interference;
-- the scattering of forces

Disappearing Qn. Wands:
-- strong willed; a powerful will, which at times can be overbearing.
-- fiery and energetic; dramatic & often the center of attention.
-- Action is this cards modus operandi, (rather than deep empathy, or slow painstaking work, or intellectual analysis & consideration).
-- the type to create a powerful first impression.

Appearance of 10 Wands (in place of the Queen who disappeared at the same time that this card decided to show itself):
-- can relate to something that energy has been put into;
-- something which must be endured;
-- 10`s can also relate to the end of the issue at hand.

In summary:
-- 9 Wands: I was taken aback & othewise a lil on edge, given that I experienced interference in the form of a disappearing card, and also the appearance of a card that was previously missing.
-- Qn of Wands: this card became the centre of my attention, given that I couldn`t believe she went missing.
-- 10 Wands: the sudden appearance of this card reflects the type of energy that literally swoops in. I also feel this card represents the end of the issue at hand, in the sense that the issue from my perspective concerned the missing cards in the suit of wands.

To conclude, altho i realize that the cards are bits of cardboard, given my experience i`m not so sure whether they should be viewed as inanimate objects .. LOL!

Not to mention, but I gotta wonder, whether anyone else has ever experienced what could be perceived as paranormal ACTIVITY (such as this), when handling the cards.

& This last should be taken with a grain of salt, insofar as the cards may have gotten stuck together. Tho i actually `felt strongly` that there was ENERGY at play, at the time this occurred.

 

[GotH]

I love tarot stories like this. I would have kept the deck to see if the cards would have reappeared.

Something that happens quite often to me is when cards appear on the floor when a deck has been put away and not used for some time. Seems that when this happens, the card's significance is usually right on for that day. This happens to me with Oracle decks as well. The most recent was a friendship card that appeared on the floor when I got home from a fun lunch date with a dear girl friend. My Deviant deck would do some interesting out of the norm things as well when I first picked it up.

 

[Laurelle]

Spirits?

Wow. That is really strange.

Are you also interested in mediumship, spirits, channeling entities? If you are interested in those things, then the spirits know it. Spirits only interact with people who have an active interest in interacting with them. I'm wondering if some sort of entity is messing with you.

You shouldn't stress about it. I would guess that it's some kind of spirit and not a message. If it was a divine message you may have felt more inclined to keep the deck.

Wow. And you are fixated on the Queen of Drama and Gossip..I mean the Queen of Wands. Maybe you are making this into a more dramatic big deal than necessary. Queen of wands have a tendency towards the least intuitive of all the queens. Maybe you are over thinking things and overly dramatizing them. Maybe the cards were just stuck together.. I don't know the answer.

But I'm very curious about the spirit thing. I'm my experience, spirits will move things around and do mischievious things! Ugh! They generally create drama and emotional distress. Maybe you are interacting with a very dramatic queen of wands type of spirit.

 

[Ethereal]

love stories like this! yes, I had a strange occurance one time. I put the all the cards back after I did several readings, on a particular situation. the next day, I took the cards out of the box, and the 8 of pentacles was RIGHT-SIDE up on top of the deck. I KNOW I put them all back, face-down. I always do. how that card got turned right side up facing me, when all the other cards were facing down in the deck, is still a mystery. It did spook me out a bit!
I just read it as a much needed message; perhaps reading on this situation was just to much work. and, or, because I had done ALOT of readings for several days, right before I had to go to work, perhaps the deck was telling me,* concentrate on your WORK!* not on readings before work.

it made sense because I would go inot work not grounded fully at times for a good hour. and, my job required alot of focus and accuracy. however, back to the supernatural stuff...yes..i found it very, very..strange.....

 

[jenessa]

Wow. That is really strange. Are you also interested in mediumship, spirits, channeling entities?

I'm not interested in mediumship, in the sense that i've never tryed to channel spirits, nor gone to see a psychic or medium.

I'm wondering if some sort of entity is messing with you.

I felt that there was some type of energy @ work, tho i'm not sure about an entity.

You shouldn't stress about it. I would guess that it's some kind of spirit and not a message.

I'm not stressing about it, but rather I was "curious" as to whether others had experienced strange occurences when handling the cards?

I don't know much about spirits, but as I felt strongly that some type of energy was @ work, I couldn't help but wonder if the deck was trying to send me a message.

If it was a divine message you may have felt more inclined to keep the deck.

Funny you should mention this cuz i wanted to keep it, and if it had of only been missing one card, I would have kept it and simply substituted the publishers card for the card that was missing.

I love tarot stories like this. I would have kept the deck to see if the cards would have reappeared.

With hindsight I wished i'd kept it, cuz I wrote the publishers and as it turns out they were prepared to send me the missing cards. Indeed I had mixed feelings about returning it, given that i've been waiting to see this deck in print for a long time. Tho thing is, for me $50 is a major purchase (ie. something that I have to save for), so at the time I thot it best to reorder another set.

Wow. And you are fixated on the Queen of Drama and Gossip..I mean the Queen of Wands. Maybe you are making this into a more dramatic big deal than necessary. Queen of wands have a tendency towards the least intuitive of all the queens. Maybe you are over thinking things and overly dramatizing them. Maybe the cards were just stuck together.. I don't know the answer.

Not so much fixated on the Queen, but rather her dramatic disappearance certainly caught my attention.

Or in otherwords, I personally am not over dramatizing what occurred, but rather i'm just recounting my experience.

Also just so you know, i'm not given to drama, but rather my approach to tarot is more scholarly.

& As far as the possibility that the cards were stuck together, I don't feel this was the case given that I worked thru them many/many times. So IMO the possibility that this was the cause, is slight.

But I'm very curious about the spirit thing. I'm my experience, spirits will move things around and do mischievious things! Ugh! They generally create drama and emotional distress. Maybe you are interacting with a very dramatic queen of wands type of spirit.

Either a Qn. Wands type of spirit, or perhaps the cards took on some type of energy.

& I will just leave it @ that for the moment, cuz my computer is acting up. Tho I will log in again momentarily because I would like to comment further.

 

[jenessa]

PART II of my reply .. darn computer glitches!

My Deviant deck would do some interesting out of the norm things as well when I first picked it up.

love stories like this! yes, I had a strange occurance one time. I put the all the cards back after I did several readings, on a particular situation. the next day, I took the cards out of the box, and the 8 of pentacles was RIGHT-SIDE up on top of the deck. I KNOW I put them all back, face-down. I always do. how that card got turned right side up facing me, when all the other cards were facing down in the deck, is still a mystery.

Good to know that others have experienced unusual occurences VIA their tarot decks. This was a 1st. for me!

I don't know much about ENERGY, tho i've always felt that the cards take on the energy of those that handle them &/or that some kind of energy is present in the cards.

& As far as paranormal activity goes, please note i'm not overly familar with this concept, tho i tend to think of this as something that occurs out of the norm.

In any event, what really stuck me was the way in which what I experienced unfolded, in the sense that when I looked thru the suit of wands for the last time, the 10 of Wands appeared, but then as I continued looking thru the progression of the cards I noticed that the Queen had disappeared.

Indeed when I saw the 10, I thot to myself that the cards just needed more handling re: the cards that I couldn't find. But then as I continued to look thru this suit, I was mystified by the absence of the Queen.

So it was almost like the Qn. vanished and the 10 took her place.

In any event, and as far as human error goes, as i've indicated I wrote down that both the 9 & 10 of Wands were missing. & I'm sure I SAW the Queen twice, cuz I immediately went thru the suit of wands again to double check on the missing 9 & 10.

& I'm also sure that both the 9 & 10 were missing, because I took a mental note that the VIII of Wands was the last numbered card, before the courts.

Then because cards were missing, i went thru the other three suits & the majors, and they were all present. So then I counted off the entire deck, and sure enough only 76 cards. Tho how the Qn. & 10 got switched, is beyond me. Or rather should i say, its almost like these two cards were transposed, tho this was not the result of human error.

 

[Laurelle]

What do you mean by "energy"?

Something had to move it. You would be a buddha guru if you have mastered the art of subconsciously moving objects telepathically without knowing it. I'm going to assume you are not actively seeking telekinestic behavior. So you're subconscious probably did not move the cards.

I think you might just be transplanting the word spirit/entity with energy. Just like it's not fashionable to say "god" anymore, but energy, universe, etc.

When I read I am a channel to which the information flows. I don't perceive that there is a separate energy/entity helping me.

I grew up in a house where my mother was actively involved in witchcraft and spirits. She felt that she drew power from them. I've seen all sorts of paranormal activity and I have cut all spirits/aliens/entites out of my life. So what you are describing to me sounds like a spirit. Then again, because of my experience with spirits, I have a certain aversion to them.

If you are looking for a message then I would gather that you are the Queen of Wands and that you feel like you have some kind of burden. Maybe this burden is trying to learn the cards and you feel like it is the final push towards the finish line.

You're not going to find the answer that you are looking for on here. You are thinking about it from a "Scholarly" point of view isn't going to create any answers.

Sometimes the best answers in life come from within you. If you scroll to the top of the screen and read your own answer to the missing cards, then you have your answer.

 

[jenessa]

What do you mean by "energy"?

Good Question/lol.

As i indicated, I don't know much about energy. Not to mention, that I had to look up telepathy & telekinesis in order to understand what you posted in this regard.

Tho as far as energy goes, for me this ties-in with viewing the cards as "influences".

Or rather should I say, that (energy) which has the power to influence the direction our lives take.

So this way of viewing the cards, is kinda like thinking in terms of being under the influence of a particular card, in the sense that the cards meaning can point to a certain tendency &/or reveal how the energy/influence of the card would manifest.

I think you might just be transplanting the word spirit/entity with energy.

You might be right. & It certainly doesn't help that i'm not familar with paranormal phenomenon.

Tho as far as the spirit world, i've always thot of this in terms of ghosts. & Speaking of which, I saw what I perceived to be a ghost/otherwordly entity, once. & Only once, many/many years ago. Tho at that time, i felt this spirit was either connected to the house I was living in, or possibly to the contents of my china cabinet given that alot my collection was acquired thru estate sales, not to mention, but the lady/ghost I saw, appeared as a reflection re: her proximity to the glass in my china cabinet.

Something had to move it.

Agreed. Not to mention, this is why I posted, in the sense that i felt this strange occurence to be noteworthy.

When I read I am a channel to which the information flows. I don't perceive that there is a separate energy/entity helping me.

Interesting. I've never thot in terms of the reader as being a channel to which info. flows. Tho this makes perfect sense.

However, having said that, i'm not sure whether being a channel would rule-out the concept of a seperate energy/entity playing a part in the reading? Or in otherwords, to my mind, these would not have to be mutually exclusive.

Tho it sounds like you are describing "your experience" as a reader. Not to mention, that you have indicated that you have an aversion to paranormal activity, etc.

For my part, i'm intrigued when anything out of the ordinary occurs. & Tho i haven't experienced much by way of paranormal activity, there has been the odd time when something unusual has occurred {for eg.: the lady/reflection}.

Tho thing is, this is the 1st. time anything that defied logic has ever happened in relation to the cards of the Tarot. & As such, i 'felt' the cards were sending me a sign or otherwise going out of their way to send me a message.

In any event, this "strange occurrence", makes for a marked departure from my 'scholarly approach' to tarot. & Maybe thats the message/lesson to be learned from this experience?

Leastways, you seem to have picked-up on & otherwise noted:

Your thinking about it from a "Scholarly" point of view isn't going to create any answers.

Hmmn, you have given me food for thot .. many thanks for taking the time.