To lighten the mood - Miss Cleo Tarot Deck!!!!

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 24 Feb 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

faunabay	24 Feb 2002
Yes people - Miss Cleo is now selling a tarot deck.....at Walgreen's no less!! ROFLMAO For those of you not in the USA, Walgreens is a discount drug store! I found a reveiw on Tarot Passages and had to rush right out and get one. LOL Check it out: http://www.tarotpassages.com/cleo-lb.htm I thought we all needed a laugh about now. Although I have to say it's not as bad as I thought it would be. Definitely not a work of art, but not horrible either. LOL

Major Tom	25 Feb 2002
*shrieking with laughter* Damn! That company certainly knows how to make money! Actually, the cards shown aren't half bad - looks like Miss Cleo buys into the Egyptian origins theory. :D Looks like a 'must have' for the collector to me. }>

Liliana	25 Feb 2002
get the one with the video, might as well get some REAL entertainment lol. We dont have any walgreens, ill never bay 10 bucks shipping for it lol. Actually i dont want the deck, i want to see the video to see how the 4 doorsspread is done

Thirteen	26 Feb 2002
Quote: Liliana (26 Feb, 2002 03:47): Actually i dont want the deck, i want to see the video to see how the 4 doorsspread is done What we should do is get an "aeclectic" snail mail list. Someone buys the video, watches it, then mails it to the first person on the list (list included). 2nd person watches it and mails it to the next person, on and on till it comes back around to the one who bought it. That way, even folk overseas could get a gander at the wonder that is Miss Cleo. Of course, the one draw-back is that it would cost a little more to mail it to those overseas than to those around the U.S., but hey, we could work something out. Maybe someone with post-office connections?

New2Tarot	26 Feb 2002
Hey guys, You know.. the thing is, although Access Resources - the company for which Miss Cleo is a figurehead - is a multimillion dollar enterprise which conducts business in a less than honourable way through misleading viewers, Miss Cleo herself isn't at fault here. Everyone pokes fun and talks bad of her without a second thought.. but I actually respect her. I mean, imagine if YOU were scouted by a company looking to make use of your skills (because I think Miss Cleo is actually a gifted tarot reader herself... not the people that read from manuals for the hotline).. and then all of a sudden different companies and states are trying to sue that company and they throw YOUR name all over the papers in a negative connotation. I mean, Miss Cleo is not at fault here - Access Resource, Ltd. is.. but whenever you read about this, it's "Miss Cleo" who is a sham. Well, no. I watched footage of her reading for radio DJs that hosted one of her infomercials.. Q100 in Atlanta I think it was. She is, if nothing more than a well-practiced regular tarot reader like any of you, very skilled at reading the Tarot and I think her talents are legit. I feel it's somewhat unfortunate how they've been somewhat exploited and her name tarnished in the process of the company becoming a cash cow... but I think it's unfair for everyone to always slam her instead of the company. I believe her accent is authentic, she was born in Haiti, and just like any Jamaican person who came to the live in the Americas or from any other country.. she carried an accent. Shamanism (?) is a religion.. those are her beliefs.. she probably DID grow up with the Tarot, and other practices. Granted, most of her life was probably spent in America but I don't think she's a fake. Just an opinion I suppose. As far as the four-door spread, I was glad to read about her deck and movie last week, because ever since I saw her spread I wanted to emulate it. And since I saw it, I figured it out for myself and it's the spread I use most often... now I have a name for it ;) This is how it works.. Shuffle the deck, then cut it into four piles from left to right. (1) (2) (3) (4) Flip the cards over vertically from left to right, and place them above the stacks. If you flip each card, they land on top of the stacks (represented by A,B,C,D) (A) (B) (C) (D) (1) (2) (3) (4) Now, flip another card from each stack, and place it on top of the stack you flipped it from (represented by E,F,G,H) (A) (B) (C) (D) (E) (F) (G) (H) You now have 8 cards in front of you in whatever orientation. Read the spread as a general story, no card positions apply. The spread is basically sequential as far as time goes from left to right, top row to bottom.. the way you'd read this paragraph is basically how you read this spread. so card A would be more present than card H. To read further into the story or to get more information for your reading, depending on the question you may have to repeat this a couple times, move cards E, F, G, H up and place them on top of cards A, B, C, D. Flip a card from each stack on the bottom row again. This is how the spread works, you can continue to read lines of cards until you gather enough information pertaining to the question. Anyway, from the sounds of the review she does know how to read Tarot well if nothing else. However, the skeptics always say "What card suggest an elbow injury?" or something when they try to make her seem like a fake.. well the claim here is that she is also a PSYCHIC. She explained it in an interview I read that she uses the cards as a tool to help her apply what she receives through psychic means. Personally, I believe some people have that gift.. I don't. Later, new2tarot

Geenius at Wrok	26 Feb 2002
Quote: New2Tarot (27 Feb, 2002 12:24): I believe her accent is authentic, she was born in Haiti, and just like any Jamaican person who came to the live in the Americas or from any other country.. she carried an accent. Haiti and Jamaica are two different countries with two different native languages (French and English), whose peoples speak English with two distinctly different accents—and it may surprise people to learn that an authentic Haitian accent is easier for American English speakers, at least, to understand than an authentic Jamaican accent! Miss Cleo's pseudo-Caribbean lilt is a total put-on. She slips up regularly in her commercials; in one of her earlier commercials she went on for almost a whole sentence in straight-up American before noticing her lapse and reverting to her shtick. I'm a white boy from Chicago, and I can do a better Jamaican accent than she does (must be all the reggae I listened to in college). I have no idea whether she's a tarot charlatan, because I've never called her and never will, but she's definitely fakin' the Jamaican.

Kiama	27 Feb 2002
*Kiama sighs* I wish I kne who Miss Cleo was.... *Sniff* Kiama

New2Tarot	27 Feb 2002
Quote: Kiama (27 Feb, 2002 22:40): *Kiama sighs* I wish I kne who Miss Cleo was.... *Sniff* Kiama Kiama! With the internet, it's very possible for you to acquaint yourself with Miss Cleo!! Miss Cleo's Website Keep in mind it IS a business and they ARE trying to make money. Click the purple "No Thanks" button to enter the site, and then click the blue "No Thanks" button. To see the making of one of her latest infomercials filmed at Q100 Radio Station in Atlanta, to watch it, or to see her perform readings off-air for the radio hosts, click here: Q100 Atlanta If you watch the video files on that site, you will see Miss Cleo in action. Granted, she is the figurehead for a money-making cash cow of a company, but I think she is legit herself. Later, new2tarot

Kiama	27 Feb 2002
Wow, she's really pretty! Unfortunately, my computer's sound is buggered, so I can't listen to her! Damn! Kiama

Thirteen	27 Feb 2002
Quote: Kiama (28 Feb, 2002 05:24): Wow, she's really pretty! Unfortunately, my computer's sound is buggered, so I can't listen to her! Damn! Kiama Find a computer with sound that works--the way she talks is what makes Miss Cleo, Miss Cleo :)

purplelady	01 Mar 2002
faunabay, 'ya beat me to it! I was just visiting tarot passages and came here to post it. Now I have a new deck on my wish list. I can't afford Any right now , but I can dream , can't I ? (***dreams of miss cleo deck set w/instructional video***) ! ;D . Walgreen's is SOOO close to my apartment that I can See it out the window and walk there in 3 minutes! (Walgreens :-D ;P )! Well , it's made me smile and I guess that's worth something! ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ .

purplelady	01 Mar 2002
I wonder if you can actually buy it at the walgreens or if it's something you have to order online?

Lee	01 Mar 2002
You can buy it at Walgreen's, but I had to go to two before I could find it. -- Lee

New2Tarot	01 Mar 2002
Lee, When did you buy it from Walgreens? Because I heard they were pulling it from their shelves because the video advertises her hotline on it. New2Tarot

Ann7822	04 Mar 2002
New2Tarot - and others! I thought EVERYONE knew ... the "miss cleo" on TV is an actress. They even held tryouts. I'll try and find the different URLS where this info can be found. ~Ann

Lee	04 Mar 2002
Quote: New2Tarot (02 Mar, 2002 09:04): Lee, When did you buy it from Walgreens? Because I heard they were pulling it from their shelves because the video advertises her hotline on it. New2Tarot I bought it about two weeks ago. -- Lee

New2Tarot	04 Mar 2002
Quote: Ann7822 (05 Mar, 2002 04:12): New2Tarot - and others! I thought EVERYONE knew ... the "miss cleo" on TV is an actress. They even held tryouts. I'll try and find the different URLS where this info can be found. ~Ann This most certainly isn't true.. granted, they probably auditioned tarot readers, but she isn't an actress. Not only do the legal papers you can find on the internet regarding her lawsuits clarify this, but she has said herself in interviews that she isn't an actress, and the courts have verified that she is in fact a practicing Shaman from the Haiti region. Just because people want to slander her name in lieu of the company doesn't mean it's right. The rumor that she's a paid actress is nothing more than rumor. New2Tarot

Ann7822	05 Mar 2002
One of the issues pending is that she won't produce her birth certificate proving who she is. Follow the leads below for more info than you care to know about "Miss Cleo"!! Even more interesting is the information given by "psychic readers" and the scripts they follow - and the amount of time they must keep callers on the line in order to get more calls directed to them. Which isn't directly Miss Harris's fault, granted. The first two are extensive, and all of the links have info on her and the practices of the PRN, as well as her 4 websites. Actually, it's been quite educational. I'll be interested in seeing how all this pans out in the courts. -------------------------- http://www.newtimesbpb.com/issues/2002-01-03/feature.html/1/index.html (follow all 3 pages - all have info about Miss Youree Harris) http://www.tarotnews.com/ --------------------------- http://www.ftc.gov go down to the search feature and enter "miss cleo" http://www.moago.org/080801.htm http://www.wsvn.com/extra/7_specials/stories/view_story.html?storyid=20020206-130333 http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?s=243886 -------------------- Ann

Jewel	05 Mar 2002
Well I went to look at the deck at Walgreens just out of curiousity (and to possibly purchase ... who do I think I am kidding *LOL*), but it looks as if I did not make it in time ... ohhhhhh well!

gypsyrose	05 Mar 2002
I bought one friday March 1. They were by the cash register, maybe look up there at your Walgreen's. I'm glad i got it, the video was amusing and the cards aren't bad. I noticed Miss Cleo flips her cards over top to bottom. Every book I've read says to flip them from the side but I guess Miss Cleo has her own way of doing things.

Jewel	06 Mar 2002
They really did not have it, but I have a friend here at the Forum that said she would pick it up for me ... YAY for friends ;P

New2Tarot	06 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by gypsyrose I bought one friday March 1. They were by the cash register, maybe look up there at your Walgreen's. I'm glad i got it, the video was amusing and the cards aren't bad. I noticed Miss Cleo flips her cards over top to bottom. Every book I've read says to flip them from the side but I guess Miss Cleo has her own way of doing things. I flip my cards top to bottom as well.. New2Tarot

Thirteen	06 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by New2Tarot I flip my cards top to bottom as well.. Now all you need is the headdress and a Ja-ma-kin ac-cent! ;)

New2Tarot	06 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Thirteen Now all you need is the headdress and a Ja-ma-kin ac-cent! ;) LOL.. no thanks.. but is it a problem flipping bottom over top??? That's how I've always done it. But I did call the Walgreens nearest me earlier this afternoon and the girl said they had it, but when I asked how much she asked another girl who said it was recalled. Then she came back on the phone and said "Sorry, they recalled them.. Miss Cleo didn't do something right." LOL Later, New2Tarot

dolphingirl	06 Mar 2002
Hi Please take a look at this article this may answer a few questions about Miss Cleo and whether she is a fraud :) http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/lifestyle/60478_misscleo.shtml

truthsayer	07 Mar 2002
i saw a deck of the miss cleo cards at a walgreens and had planned to buy it b/c i liked the sample cards i saw. however, when i saw the box with her featured so prominently i felt so turned off i couldn't buy it. it just seems sacriligious to tarot to commercialize something i love so much like that. i just couldn't spend $20 for that deck when there are so MANY DECKS i'm dying to own! but if walgreens is indeed pulling it from the shelves, i'll prob start feeling like i have to have now. <<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>

faunabay	08 Mar 2002
Sorry to say this, but they've been pulled!!! I went out today to buy one for Jewel at the same store I bought mine in and they told me the Miss Cleo stuff had been pulled and they're no longer selling them because of the lawsuit. So if you got one (like me :) ) you're one of the lucky ones!!! The way things are looking I doubt they'll be released again.

kayne	08 Mar 2002
Wow - lucky you Faunabay! That will make them worth a fair bit after a while... what a collector's item!

New2Tarot	08 Mar 2002
Although Miss Cleo's Tarot Power may not be available in stores any longer, you can always buy it off of her website! Later, New2Tarot

DeLani	10 Mar 2002
Ann7822, I really wish I could click on those sites - but they aren't links, just the addresses. I'll have to write them all down & visit them later. As for Miss Cleo, it is true that a Haitian accent is VERY different than a Jamaican one. Hers is definitely fake, esp. if she wasn't even born in Jamaica. She might not be a paid "actress," per se, but a paid "spokesperson," but once she started faking an accent, she became an actress (one who acts) in my opinion. I realize that she isn't at fault for what the company who hired her does, but I think as a reader (or anything) I would have thoroughly checked out any company who wanted to use MY name to identify itself. She may very well be a talented psychic. I can't judge that since I've never gotten a reading from her. But from what I've seen on the commercials, the type of "advice" she gives to people is awful! Full of the most petty, soap-opera garbage: "yes, dat man cheatin' on you," etc. Not exactly helping people reach their higest good - in fact, probably starting fights and all kind of other white-trash drama in already-confused people's lives. Nothing I have seen or heard about Miss Cleo inspires any respect from me. Sorry to be so harsh, but tarot readers already have a "shady" rep, and she's making it worse. Thanks for letting me rant, DeLani P.S: I have the right to say "white trash," since, in fact, I am white trash. I live in a trailer and everything. :)

Mateo06	10 Mar 2002
Sorry, but i love mis cleo... I love how funny she is... And i think she was the one who got me hooked on tarot. I saw he and i was like i want a readin now, but since i was to young to call i decided to do it myself.. And here i am today. But i don't agree with how she is being used. And if i was her i would leave that company right away and start my own... One that is very cheap like lets say FREE i mean a free tarot reading outline... that would surely change things don't ya think... but alas it will never happen.

Geenius at Wrok	11 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Mateo06 Sorry, but i love mis cleo... I love how funny she is... But i don't agree with how she is being used. And if i was her i would leave that company right away and start my own... Oh, come on, folks. Claiming that Miss Cleo is a talented psychic who's being exploited by her company is like claiming that Britney Spears is a talented musician who's being exploited by the music industry. "Yeah, Top 40 music is prefab junk, and the record companies are evil, but I really sincerely believe that Britney is a genuine musical genius!"

jmd	11 Mar 2002
I'm concerned that this thread is heading in paths not connected with discussion of the Tarot deck associated with her name. You may wish to begin a new thread in either Chat or Talking Tarot to discuss her genuineness or otherwise.

Jewel	11 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by faunabay Sorry to say this, but they've been pulled!!! I went out today to buy one for Jewel at the same store I bought mine in and they told me the Miss Cleo stuff had been pulled and they're no longer selling them because of the lawsuit. Ohhhhhhhh Welllllll *LOL*. Thanks for trying Faunabay, I really appreciate it. I only really wanted it for the novelty *LOL*. There are plenty of decks out there that I REALLY want so I'll get over having missed out on the Ms. Cleo Deck *LOL*. Love & Light,

loviticus	21 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Geenius at Wrok Oh, come on, folks. Claiming that Miss Cleo is a talented psychic who's being exploited by her company is like claiming that Britney Spears is a talented musician who's being exploited by the music industry. "Yeah, Top 40 music is prefab junk, and the record companies are evil, but I really sincerely believe that Britney is a genuine musical genius!" I think this is true. Britney is used as a commodity, so is ms cleo. The difference is that ms Cleo is going down as a sacrificial lamb and Britney is not. Granted they are both easy to laugh at, but I actually feel for Cleo. Ms Cleo is an employee of the network as the spokesperson and what that means to me is that she is the figurehead, for good or for bad. Especially after following some of the links here, I think the news is doing a smear campaign on her because it is exciting and trashy press. Part of this, I believe, comes from a "Burn the witch!" mentality that on a certain level scares me (as a witch). My opinon of the deck: Well thought out but kind of ugly. I will admit it, I am a tarot geek, and as soon as I saw the ad featuring the deck I ran out and got myself a copy at Walgreens. I am so glad I did it right away now! The illustrations seem almost unfinished like sketches rather than completed drawings.The color scheme seems rather unthought out to me. The Egyptian angle is kind of cheesy. Honestly my favorite part is the box the cards came in. A nice big picture of ms Cleo on the cover. Perfect. Shooting stars. How much campier could it be? Big ol' beturbaned ms cleo. Her name real big. I've put my regular deck in the Cleo box because I love pulling it out for people, everyone laughs. Everyone knows ms.Cleo. I'm glad I spent the money, even though I will never read for anyone with this deck. Iv'e watch her infomercials on videotape to see if it all rang true and I enjoyed watching the instructional tape. I think she does know her tarot but unfortunately her 15 minutes are almost up. You know the next step in the exciting saga of ms Cleo already, don't you? The people who run the psychic network will dissassociate from ms cleo because of all the negative press, change the name of the company (again) and start a new scam network with another spokesperson. Parting advice from her LWB: And always remember what ms Cleo says," Dem cards don't lie!

Pedeka	21 Mar 2002
I have a friend that is a reader for the Cleo hotline. I dont know about any of the other readers but I know that he is legit and just does it cause he says it pays pretty well for that kind of thing. Im sure that most of it is faked and scripted, but there are probably more real readers who are into it for rent money.

Tarot Hermit	21 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Liliana get the one with the video, might as well get some REAL entertainment lol. We dont have any walgreens, ill never bay 10 bucks shipping for it lol. Actually i dont want the deck, i want to see the video to see how the 4 doorsspread is done Hi Liliana, You can find a spread very similiar here. http://www.tarotcards.fsnet.co.uk/universal_spread.htm And a decent expanation is given how to use it and what each of the positions mean. Tarot Hermit

Tarot Hermit	21 Mar 2002
Quote: Originally posted by New2Tarot This most certainly isn't true.. granted, they probably auditioned tarot readers, but she isn't an actress. Not only do the legal papers you can find on the internet regarding her lawsuits clarify this, but she has said herself in interviews that she isn't an actress, and the courts have verified that she is in fact a practicing Shaman from the Haiti region. Just because people want to slander her name in lieu of the company doesn't mean it's right. The rumor that she's a paid actress is nothing more than rumor. New2Tarot You might want to look at this information on Court TV, http://www.courttv.com/news/feature/cleo/031402_birthcert_ctv.html According to information posted March 4th, she was not even born in the Caribbean, but in a Los Angeles County hospital on Aug. 13, 1962. While she may have been used by the company she can not have been unaware of what was going on and therein lies the problem for me. All of the people that believed in her and called in only to get someone reading directing from a script or a book without any training or abilities. Tarot Hermit

The To lighten the mood - Miss Cleo Tarot Deck!!!! thread was originally posted on 24 Feb 2002 in the Tarot Decks board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Tarot Decks, or read more archived threads.