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Glastonbury Tarot

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 24 Apr 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

faunabay  24 Apr 2002 
Does anyone else have this deck? (I know you do Kiama! :) )
I bought it more as a novelty, but am using it almost exclusively since I got it.
The artwork is pretty basic and flat, but the colors are very bright and the people in them are drawn from the artist's actual friends so they aren't the ken and barbie (perfect) faces and bodies. They look like real people (drawings) to me.
I'm just really connecting with this deck and wondered if anyone else uses it???
I wasn't expecting to actually use it. LOL It was just going to be a collector deck! Well I guess it had other plans huh??? LOL 


truthsayer  24 Apr 2002 
uuuuhhhhhhhh....i'll let you know in a couple of weeks. actually what attracts me to the deck is clips from the book that talk about the connection to the arthur legends and glastonbury. plus since i'm collecting celtic/arthurian type decks, why not? if i like it that would be an added bonus. the art i've seen looks kind of flat but the colors are nice and i like the imperfect ppl. ;) 


fairyhedgehog  25 Apr 2002 
My husband gave it to me for my birthday, which I was really touched by as he doesn't really approve of tarot. He said he wanted to get me something I'd like.

When I first saw it, my heart sank. Those sticky cards, crude colours, and looking slightly flawed in places. But I do really like it. It seems to be a very positive deck - useful if I am feeling fragile. And it definitely feels different having real people in the pictures.

All the best,

FH 


Kiama  25 Apr 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by faunabay
Does anyone else have this deck? (I know you do Kiama! :) )

I don't have it yet, but I am a BIG BIG BIG fan of Glastonbury (Which is probably where you got confsued.. I'm always raving about how great Glastonbury is!) I haven't got this deck... Yet. Blame it on all these new fancy decks coming out! How can one not get them? But I do have serious intentions of getting this deck... When I've hunted down the William Blake deck.

Y'see, I have an action plan! :eek: First its Will Blake, cuz that one's becoming extremely unavaliable... Then its Motherpeace... Then Merryday... THEN its Glastonbury...

I really love all the myths and legends associated with Glastonbury... I went through a stage of finding out all I could about it... Its SO interesting! Things like the Glastonbury Zodiac, the Chalice Well, the Tor, the Abbey, all pop to mind... (And of course, one can't ignore all the great shops they have, just brimming full of Tarot decks!)

I hope you enjoy this deck!

Kiama 


Jewel  25 Apr 2002 
Well mine arrived while I was on travel and I got to open it and some other treasures I ordered ~giggles~ last night. I love the bright colors, and I definetly want to read the book. Like Truthsayer I love Celtic decks so this was a must have for me. The colors really draw me in, and I also like the use of real people. I doubt it will ever replace my beloved Cosmic Tribe but I do really like what I saw. I think the book is what is really going to draw me in though. 


Wishcrafter  25 Apr 2002 
Hello, Kiama

Oh Sage among Seer's

I found a link for you to buy The William Blake Tarot
The creator of the deck( Ed Buryn ) is selling the remainder of the decks himself. They are 39.95 each and 4.00 shipping.

I know you enjoy the chase but I know they will be going up,up
and away soon.

http://www.facade.com/tarot/decks/william_blake/ 


cricket  25 Apr 2002 
Augh! Here it is... very few left... and the kids have to eat this week! :(

Ah well... Maybe it will be printed again someday... 


truthsayer  07 May 2002 
i got my glastonbury today. when i first looked at it, it is a little disappointing but then the more i look at it the more i like it. it's hard to explain but it's not only a positive deck--it strikes me as a happy, optimistic deck. i can't think of any decks i own that look "happy". most are dirt serious even what i called the "gentle" decks. i wouldn't exactly call this one gentle but i can see using it feeling depressed and get told,"okay, i know your life looks like it's going to hell in a handbasket on the outside but look on the bright side. there is more to this situation than meets the eye..." the colors are crisp and unmuddied. the drawings a bit flat but that's okay. the ppl aren't ken and barbieish. the book is a treasure to itself. i think i'm going to enjoy this deck. my first impression was that this deck was superficial but it definitely is not. there is more here than meets the eye. since the images are nontraditional, i think a beginner would have difficulty w/ it unless willing to really work w/ it.

the paper is thick and should wear well. it has that coating on it like the celtic wisdom does and is a bit sticky. in face, this deck is slightly reminiscent of CW but more readable. it comes in a pull out carton w/ the book. if you want to keep them together, you could rubberband or tie the cards w/ string to keep them from sliding out of the box. the box is attractive and would look good on a bookshelf. the box is designed like the one that comes w/ the minchiate. 


Pollux  07 May 2002 
Kiama, did you forget about me?

I am waiting for the deck to enter my chambers... ;)
As soon as I get it, I'll jot down all I will feel sense hear see taste smell...

*stop him before it is too late* 


Kiama  08 May 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Pollux
Kiama, did you forget about me?

I am waiting for the deck to enter my chambers... ;)
As soon as I get it, I'll jot down all I will feel sense hear see taste smell...

*stop him before it is too late*


The shop I ordered our copies from still has not had them in yet... It'll take them about another 5 days.

Kiama 


Kiama  10 May 2002 
GOT IT!!!! Woohoo! And I must say: WOW! What a lovely little deck this one is! Lots of thought went into this one... Although my boyfriend stil doesn't like it, cuz he said the artwork is too childish... According to him, my 9 year old sister could do better. I disagree. Yes, the colours are bold, and the artwork isn't the most wonderful in the world... But the actual interpretation of each card is amazing... They all speak to me so much! There is so much meaning just waiting to be found in those cards... And it helps that I've been to Glastonbury myself, cuz I feel like I'm going home when I see all the scenes in this deck.

The book is amazing too, and I've learned so much about the myths, legends, and history that surround Glastonbury...

Pollux, I will be posting this deck to you hopefully on Monday.

Kiama 


Pollux  10 May 2002 
Honey, I can't wait!!! :D
Yours was duly posted today... The shipping option actually was not the fastest, but the safest (I tend to prefer the latter, but I know you might disagree :P)

*he goes to the window, waiting for Monday, Tuesday... and the postwoman to come around...* 


truthsayer  10 May 2002 
kiama,
when i first looked at this deck, i would have agreed that the art is childish and one dimensional but this is an experienced artist. whatever she did in the deck was intentional. if you know anything about art, one dimensional art doesn't have shadows but there are shadows here. then i looked for flatness of expression on the ppl but the ppl have emotion and personality. compare rachel's pollack's shining tribe against the ppl in this deck. in comparison, they are drawn very well. maybe less defined than in some decks but well drawn. then i looked at the colors and that's what i think it is. the colors aren't muddied in the least w/ blending into other colors. it's kind of like a coloring book--no blended edges. there's lot's of primary colors, too--red, blue, yellow. any other colors are mixed cleanly like the greens and fleshtones. the colors aren't grayed down like we've come to expect to mute down the brilliance of the color. the yellow on the fool is pure yellow. the greens of the trees are crisp and bright as if they were mixed straight yellow and green and weren't darkened except for shadows. in nature, we expect to see color grayed or neutraled down or pasteled w/ white but not in this deck. that's why the deck feels so exuberant. the artist allowed it to be fully itself. so i've changed my mind about the quality of the art work--it is well done. i doubt just anyone could have done it b/c it takes skill to do what she did and fool us into thinking the art is simple when it's not.

kiama, i envy you that glastonbury is close enough you can visit at least yearly. it now tops my list on places in the world i want to visit most. 


faunabay  10 May 2002 
truthsayer,
that's one of the reasons I love this deck so much - the bright unmuted colors. They just jump out at me!
And your explanation of the artwork and why it at first seems childish seems spot on. Because everyone I read about says their first impression was "what childish artwork", but they then go on to say the more they work with it the more it seems to have layers of meaning in it and not childish at all. 


Jewel  10 May 2002 
The bright colors were definetly one of the reasons I "had to have" this deck. Hard to describe exactly. I just feel like a pulsating energy when I look at such pure colors. A "brightness". Well said Truthsayer, I could not agree with you and Faunabay more. Thanks for being able to articulate what I cannot :) 


Kiama  11 May 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by truthsayer
kiama, i envy you that glastonbury is close enough you can visit at least yearly. it now tops my list on places in the world i want to visit most.


Well, if ever you wanna come visit Glastonbury, feel free to come stay with me! :) :P This is one of he places I think EVERYONE should be forced to visit. })

Kiama 


wavebreaker  11 May 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Kiama
This is one of he places I think EVERYONE should be forced to visit. })


Ok, force me! ;)
Glastonbury is one of the places that's still on my list of places to visit... Which, by the way, is a very long list... 


wavebreaker  17 May 2002 
I got mine today!

And I think the artwork is beautiful!
The cards are a bit sticky though, I hope that's only because it's new.
Now I'd better start reading the book.... ;) 


faunabay  17 May 2002 
I still LOVE my glastonbury deck!! It is turning out to be my "gentle" deck. The once I go to when I want to know the answer to a question, but don't want to be smacked in the face with it. LOL

And kiama one of these days I might just have to take you up on your offer of a place to stay! :) I really, really would like to visit glastonbury some day. 


Jewel  17 May 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by faunabay
I still LOVE my glastonbury deck!! It is turning out to be my "gentle" deck. The once I go to when I want to know the answer to a question, but don't want to be smacked in the face with it. LOL


Now aren't you glad I'm such a good influence? *LOL* 


WolfSpirit  02 Jun 2002 
I don't own this deck but i saw all cards on line (thanks for the web address cat :)) and the cards really grow on me, what seems like simple pictures has a lot more to it than meets the eye. I'm gonna have to have this deck, and i have to try and plan a little trip to Glastonbury somewhere in the not too far future. (So I go the other way around from Kiama: I start with the deck then go see the places. Begin to be curious about the place now...) 


wavebreaker  02 Jun 2002 
I love it too, it's actually my main reading deck at the moment. It comes with a really good book that explains all the pictures, including all the symbolism and the links to the history of Glastonbury.

I'm getting really curious about Glastonbury too now, how about we plan an Aeclectic get-together at Glastonbury some time?? ;) 


Lee  02 Jun 2002 
In case anyone wants to visit the link that Cat kindly provided to see the Glastonbury cards, here it is. Once there, go to the bottom of the page and click on "Images: Major Arcana" or "Images: Minor Arcana" I've copied it here in case anyone missed it in the previous thread.

-- Lee 


WolfSpirit  02 Jun 2002 
Yeah let's all go to Glastonbury together. Kiama can be our local guide and give us tips on what to see & do in G. ;)

I think I really want to have this deck now. I'll have a big tin of baby powder ready (yes I read the thread about the sticky cards) 


wavebreaker  02 Jun 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by WolfSpirit
Yeah let's all go to Glastonbury together. Kiama can be our local guide and give us tips on what to see & do in G. ;)


Deal!! Are you up for that Kiama?? ;)

Quote:
I think I really want to have this deck now. I'll have a big tin of baby powder ready (yes I read the thread about the sticky cards)


The powder trick worked very well! I only did it once, and the stickiness never returned. Be sure to use powder with a smell you like though, or with no smell, because the smell really sticks to the cards... ;) 


faunabay  02 Jun 2002 
Also keep in mind you may not even need the powder. I didn't!

I'm definitely up for the trip to Glastonbury! It'd be much more expensive for me - coming from the US and all. But I'd love to do this. Bet Jewel would love it too!!! :D 


Kiama  02 Jun 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by tarotlady_nl


Deal!! Are you up for that Kiama?? ;)


Most definitely! I am hopefully going this Summer, and next Summer anyway... I believe Kayne, Pollux, possibly Catlin and a friend, and possibly even Malachite are coming along too! (If I can talk Malachite into going! })) Anyone else is perfectly welcome! Although be warned: A load of Tarot collectors rampaging around Glastonbury will turn into a massive fight over who gets what deck... :P }) If we see the Wiliam Blake, its MINE! MINE I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!! })

Kiama 


wavebreaker  02 Jun 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Kiama
A load of Tarot collectors rampaging around Glastonbury will turn into a massive fight over who gets what deck... :P }) If we see the Wiliam Blake, its MINE! MINE I TELL YOU!!!!!!!!!! })


That's probably going to be the last visit then, because after this tarot collectors will be banned from Glastonbury forever... :( ;) 


catlin  05 Jun 2002 
Maybe, Imagine the headlines, eg bold letters in Sun, Bild etc:

"Rioteering Tarotomanes fought bloodily over decks. XX metaphysical shops in Glasonbury were destroyed!!!" 


Woodsong  05 Jun 2002 
I was fortunate enough to visit Glastonbury last year -- ended out missing the last train back to London and spent the night in Castle Cary. There are beaucoup neat things in Glastonbury -- the Tor, Chalice Well, the shops, and just walking around the neat little town were all tops. 


catlin  05 Jun 2002 
Hi woodsong,

Didn't we meet before at Tarot Consultant?

B/W I could not resist to get a copy of the Glastonbury tarot for me. 


truthsayer  05 Jun 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by catlin
Maybe, Imagine the headlines, eg bold letters in Sun, Bild etc:

"Rioteering Tarotomanes fought bloodily over decks. XX metaphysical shops in Glasonbury were destroyed!!!"


"once the riot got out of control, tarot looting began in the confusion. nameless faces kept trampling out of stores yelling what sounded like,"IT'S MINE! IT'S MINE! I TELL YOU IT'S ALL MINE!!!!" herds of hysterical tarotmanes stampeded after trying to take the deck from the escapers. buildings reached maximum occupancy and an earthquake was started by extreme forces exerted. emergency personel are still looking through the wreckage for bodies. initial reports indicate that the damage runs in the millions of pounds/usd"

"there is a world wide all points bulletin out for the following suspects..."

meanwhile at the local police station, the officers are looking at a screen w/ kiama's photo. "this is a leader of an international tarot ring called the 'aeclectics'. not armed but considered dangerous if you try to take her decks. if we can capture her then maybe we can make her turn on her friends. maybe we can make her a deal w/ that wm blake deck."

boy! you guys know how to throw a party! count me in! 


Lee  10 Jun 2002 
Hi, folks --

Now that this trip appears to be in the planning stages, I felt an *irresistable compulsion* to split the thread and move the trip-planning portion out of the Tarot Decks forum. So I gave in to my baser urges, and now it's in the Chat section.

-- Lee 


Kiama  13 Jun 2002 
Thanks Lee! We might be able to get stuf organised easier that way...

Kiama 


amyel  05 Aug 2002 
Here ya go Midnightmerry!!!! 


midnightmerry  06 Aug 2002 
Hey thanks, Amyel! 


Lee  12 Aug 2002 
UPS has just brought me my new Glastonbury. Now I'm going to open the package and see what all the fuss is about! :D

-- Lee 


Jewel  12 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
UPS has just brought me my new Glastonbury. Now I'm going to open the package and see what all the fuss is about! :D

-- Lee


~Chuckles~ now Lee that was evil ... you could have waited and at least opened it and given us your first impression *LOL*. I look forward to hearing what you think of it. I find [that for me] this deck to be one of those that grows on you ... the more you around it the more you like it. Maybe its my fascination with the pretty bright colors *LOL*. 


Lee  13 Aug 2002 
Well, I've spent a few hours with it, and I'm halfway through the book.

First, I agree with truthsayer about the artistic merits of this deck. I also agree with whoever said that the deck looks a lot better in person than in scans. I think she's quite skilled as an artist. I love the different expressions and postures of the people -- especially the King of Swords! I'm a sucker for bright colors, so I like that aspect of it as well. Also, I tend to like simpler tarot images, which this deck has.

I like that it covers Arthurian mythology, but without specifically identifying it as an Arthurian tarot, which leaves it free to not have to try to tell a story, which I think is a weakness of the other two Arthurian decks, which try to present disparate and contradictory stories as a single world, and they don't really fit together that way. The author of Glastonbury, by not completely identifiying it as an Arthurian deck, is free to take some Arthurian elements and mix it with non-Arthurian elements which are nevertheless connected with Glastonbury.

I think the book is very well-written. I like the fact that the Minors are given a more positive slant, without being sugary-sweet. I love the way those little vesicas are worked into the Vesica suit.

Could someone who works with this deck a lot please give me some clue as to how to approach the Devil card? I just can't get with it. It seems like a rather harsh picture -- St. Dunstan, confronted with the Devil disguised as an alluring, naked woman, holds out his red-hot tongs with which he is about to pinch her nose, in his efforts to resist temptation. I understand the book's description of this card as meaning an attempt to face and dispel fears, but it's hard for me to feel much sympathy for St. Dunstan, and I want to actually feel sorry for the woman, especially since she's supposed to be the Devil, yet the Devil is also pictured as a third entity on the card. It seems like the woman is simply the victim of a misunderstanding and is about to get her nose burnt by the fanatic St. Dunstan, who surely has some issues with his sexuality. To me it seems to make more sense to identify the Devil, or Devilish obsession, with St. Dunstan rather than the woman. Please help me with this!

Overall, I can see how, after becoming familiar with this deck, it could be a very comfortable deck to read with. I especially like the way the people in the Minors are in modern dress, which ties in nicely with the author's description of the Majors as archetypal powers, and the Minors as showing how those forces are played out in daily life.

I look forward to working more with this deck.

-- Lee 


Jewel  14 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
I'm a sucker for bright colors, so I like that aspect of it as well. Also, I tend to like simpler tarot images, which this deck has.


You and me both! ... I will check out the devil card and see if I have anything to contribute to the discussion. Thanks for the review Lee! 


Pollux  14 Aug 2002 
:D :D :D Kiama will send me a Glastonbury soon! :D :D :D

And this of The Devil.. I take it as a personal matter: this guy is my shadow card.
I'd love to join you Jewel and Lee!!! :D 


Riversea  15 Aug 2002 
Now look what you made me do! I ordered the Glastonbury tarot.

Everytime, up until recently that is, I swore that I didn't want it, it didn't appeal to me, etc. Then everyone had to go singing its praises, someone posted where to get it for $15, and lo and behold, it showed up on my doorstep this afternoon! :)

I've been looking at it now for a few hours, and I think that the artwork will grow on me. Some of the cards I already love, others are going to take awhile. Others I may never like, but that's ok.

Landon took a look at it, and liked it right off the bat. So, if I don't bond with it, I already know whose deck it can be. If I do end up bonding with it, we can probably share it. ;)

The back of the cards is lovely. And I really do love how colorful the deck is.

It is a bit different than the decks that I've been using up until now. My other reading decks are the Universal Waite, Victoria Regina, Old English, and St. Petersburg, all of which are Waite clones.

The Glastonbury, while containing a lot of Waite imagery, also departs from it bit farther than my other decks. It's also the first deck that I have with key words.

The tiny bit that I've read out of the companion book, I've liked.

And just like everyone has said, the cards are sticky!

Two of my cards have problem though, one is worse than the other. Along the card edge, there is a split in the card layers, like someone has pressed a fingernail between them, lifting part of the printed, laminated image.

It isn't that bad right now, but I worry that in shuffling the cards, the edges might catch, and tear part of the image. Anyone else have this problem? Can I tack it with a tiny bit of glue, and/or write and hope the publisher will replace the cards?

So far, I think I do like the deck. I can certainly see how this could end up being my hopeful, optimistic deck. Even if I wasn't planning on getting it. :) 


fairyhedgehog  15 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Riversea
It isn't that bad right now, but I worry that in shuffling the cards, the edges might catch, and tear part of the image. Anyone else have this problem? Can I tack it with a tiny bit of glue, and/or write and hope the publisher will replace the cards?


My deck had some cards with flaws, and I emailed the publishers. They took a little while to reply, but when they did reply they said 'how terrible, return the deck to us and we'll replace it'.

So I would definitely contact them asap :)

Love and light,

FH 


Pollux  15 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Riversea
If I do end up bonding with it, we can probably share it. ;)

WOW - You certainly are brave! *LOL** :D 


Lee  15 Aug 2002 
I've spent some more time with this deck and have some more thoughts.

While I do admire the artwork, I agree with Riversea that there are several cards which are difficult to like. The artist is better at head-on faces than at profiles. I actually think the Minor artwork is better on the whole than the Major cards. Most of the Majors are kind of so-so, except for three cards which I love (Death, Tower, Star). The World card is downright ugly.

I think the Pagan and Christian elements of the deck sit uneasily together. The Christian characters in the Majors (St. Collen, St. Dunstan) basically want to destroy Paganism, which makes it hard to see the Majors as a unified whole (although I suppose the gods and goddesses in the Greek pantheon were always at war with each other).

Nevertheless, this deck definitely has "something" about it and despite the existence of perfectly good reasons for me not to like it, I haven't stopped looking at it since it arrived. I have yet to try reading with it, so I may have even more thoughts after that (at the risk of boring you all to tears, LOL).

I did come up with a way to approach to the Devil card. Despite the fact that St. Dunstan is a saint and the woman is the Devil in disguise, I think the woman and St. Dunstan should be seen as equals, rather than as good-guy/bad-guy. Like the humans on the R-W-S Devil card, they are equally enslaved by the Devil. For the woman's part, she is on a power trip, trying to make herself feel good by seducing a monk. St. Dunstan is about to commit an evil, violent act (burning the woman's nose) because he wants to root out and banish his own sexuality. It's kind of like the Ancestral Path Devil, where a man and a woman argue while the Devil eggs them on.

Jewel, and anyone else, I'd like to know what you think!

-- Lee

Edited to say -- there's a lot of influences from other decks which are fun to root out. A lot of the art is reminiscent of the Dreampower Tarot, and indeed the artist, Lisa Tenzin-Dolma, lists the artist of that deck (Stuart Littlejohn) as an inspiration. Also, the 7 of Swords, named "Boundaries" and showing to people sitting cross-legged on the ground, is obviously derived from Rachel Pollack's Shining Tribe deck (although it would have been the earlier version, Shining Woman). The fallen masks on the Queen of Swords is derived from Golden Dawn decks. 


Kiama  16 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
I think the Pagan and Christian elements of the deck sit uneasily together. The Christian characters in the Majors (St. Collen, St. Dunstan) basically want to destroy Paganism, which makes it hard to see the Majors as a unified whole (although I suppose the gods and goddesses in the Greek pantheon were always at war with each other).



I think one needs to delve into Glastonbury itself to get used to th mingling of Paganism and Christianity. Glastonbury is basicaly meling pot of these two paths, as not only it's history (It can boast the first Christian church eer to be built in England, and the birth-place fo Christiantyin England) but its legends and myths are a mix-upof Paganism and Christianity. To illustrate my point... he tales of King Arthur, the Holy Grail, etc, are such that they hold weight in both the Pagan mystical tradition, and the Chrisians. To the Christian, the Holy Crail (Chalice) is thecup o Christ. To the Pagan, it is the Cauldron of Penty/Annwn/Ceridwen. With some traditions and legends and myths, it is often very difficultto seperate Christianity and Pgansm, esp. im England, where plenty of the Pagan deities were turned into Cristian Saints y the chruch. (Brighid bing a prime example, now t Bride, the Midwife of Christ.)

This deck isn't relly about Christianity or Paganism, but about the plethora of history, mystery and heritage which is inheret in the small Smoerset twon of Glastonbury, which no nly has Glasnbury Abbey, whee King Arthur and Guinevere were suppoedly burried, but it has the Chalice Well, where Jospeh of Arimathea buried the Blood of Christ, the Holy Thorn, the White Spring where Jospeh buried the Sweat of Christ, the Tor -Supposedly housing underground processional way and labyrinth, along with Gwynn Ap Nudh, and of course S Michael's Moun on top of that Tor. The Tor having ST Michael's Mount on top of it can be seen as an allegory for how Christianity built upon he Pagan traditions when it arrived in England....

I'm rambling now...

Kiama 


Jewel  19 Aug 2002 
First of all, Kiama thanks for your comments. I do not think you were rambling at all, and found what you had to say very interesting. The Discovery Channel here in the US has also run a special or two that support what you have said.

Lee ... back to the devil card ... the smirk on the woman's face is probably what would keep me from feeling sorry for her. I think the card would arouse the same questions you made if one did not have a copy of the book. But all in all to me it was obvious that those eyes [in the background] and that hand were manipulating the woman. Having read the book, I fully understood that the devil was not manipulating the woman but had transformed itself into the woman so that it could tempt St. Dunstan. St. Dunstan [with his fiery tongs] is driving away temptation and the devil with the same strength by which the devil is tempting St. Dunstan. But without the book I would never have connected all of this ... 


Maan  22 Aug 2002 
Yesterday i came across this deck in our capital :) And it was so cheap i just had to buy it ;) ( 11 euro's)

Like lee i don't exactly like the artwork and i feel strange about the combination of paganism and christianity deffinatly in for example the hermit. Wich shows a man that defeated the old religion. That just makes me made.
But if i let this go and work with the cards they seem very clear and the artwork looks really nice in a layout. 


Pollux  22 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Maan
Yesterday i came across this deck in our capital :) And it was so cheap i just had to buy it ;) ( 11 euro's)

That is so cheap...
I am so jealous...
:( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( 


Maan  22 Aug 2002 
he Pollux...still have your wishlist ;)

So maybe i can snatch you up a deck when i'm lucky again:)
I like tho share i my good fortune ;) 


amyel  22 Aug 2002 
Well, it wasn't $9.99, but I did go to the discount book link posted in this thread and bought it for $14.98 + $7.20 shipping to Canada, for a respectable total of $22.18. Again, even with the exchange rate, it's still better then the ~$50 Cdn the stores sell it for...... 


WolfSpirit  24 Aug 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee


I did come up with a way to approach to the Devil card. Despite the fact that St. Dunstan is a saint and the woman is the Devil in disguise, I think the woman and St. Dunstan should be seen as equals, rather than as good-guy/bad-guy. Like the humans on the R-W-S Devil card, they are equally enslaved by the Devil. For the woman's part, she is on a power trip, trying to make herself feel good by seducing a monk. St. Dunstan is about to commit an evil, violent act (burning the woman's nose) because he wants to root out and banish his own sexuality. It's kind of like the Ancestral Path Devil, where a man and a woman argue while the Devil eggs them on.



I only just got this deck, and after putting powder on the cards (yes sticky I had been warned about that :D) the devil card was the first one I looked at as I had read the discussion here.

I like your view of st. dunstan being part of the evil, a very pagan approach I guess. :)
My first impression of the card:
It looked so surreal, st. dunstan looking frightened while he's the one holding the iron, and the woman not frightened at all. It made me feel like the woman was not really there but just in his mind, so he is fighting with something inside himself instead of another person.
I haven't really thought this out much but it's what I feel when I look at the card. 


RedEarth  23 Apr 2003 
I like the sense of movement in the devil card. This leads me to feel that it indicates a transition, a movement. A reminder that all is not stuck or written in stone.
I do not see it as a daunting card in a reading, but more of a message that great change is on the way, an ending of one thing and a move into something new. Also that all things may not be as it seems (due to the sureal feel of the card as discussed above).

Red Earth 


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