Rohrig-A pregnant Princess

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 18 Jun 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Liliana	18 Jun 2002
Given the upsurge in interest in Rohrig I thought Id talk on the Princess of Pentacles. You may see her here http://www.tarotpassages.com/cr1.jpg She is very pregnant, which may be disturbing if you consider her a child like the Princess normally portrays. The book says "Motherhood. Love and Warmth. Renewal and new beginning. Fertility and increase." Sounds more Empress,or at least Queen to me, and in fact the Empress doeshavea similar description only she enodies all aspects of feminity. The book says on the Queen "The mature, cheerful, fertile aspect of feminity. Everything is at her disposal, and she disposes of everything as she sees fit. The woman who clings to material things." The artist didnt write the book,this is someone elses interpretation of his art, and i agree with much of the above except the fertile part What I believe was done in the Pentacles is that the princess equates more to the Queen in other decks than the page, and that his Queen actually represents more the Crone stage of feminine life. Just reading the description of the Queen makes me think of the no nonsense older woman who does just what she wants,and if you dont like it she tells you where to shove it lol. Anyone else have any possible explanations or thoughts on the prenant princess? :THP

Jewel	18 Jun 2002
Hi Liliana! the Rhorhig is an interesting deck. You might want to consider making future individual card posts in the talking tarot, general study group forum or chat or some other section before that big bad ole meanie Lee ~giggles~ moves your thread to some hard to find forum like tech-support *LOL* .... sorry Lee I could not resist! *LOL*.

Faerie Lin	18 Jun 2002
I'm seeing your point of view Liliana... Lin

Kaz	18 Jun 2002
compare this card top the thoth princess of disks, in thoth she is pregnant as well. she is pregnant of forming/creating power, of the future..... kaz

Kaz	18 Jun 2002
thanks to you liliana, i ordered this deck.... kaz

Liliana	18 Jun 2002
I wasnt sure where specific card discussion went, i thought decks because it was a specific deck ad not generally talking about the princess. Lee can move them if he feels so inclined hehe Sorry. I didnt know the Thoth princess was pregnant, as I really dont like the Thoth deck lol.I know, it seems stupid that my favorite deck is based on one I dont get anything out of. Well, I do like the Lovers. Anyway I got out my Thoth and looked at it and yep she is, the LWB said so too,pregnant with all life. Im thinking to fully get the Rohrig Im going to need a good Thoth book. Any recomendations that might work for a Thoth spin off? :THP

emily2otters	18 Jun 2002
liliana wrote: <> ...and she doesn't have a belly button, which may be disturbing if you consider princesses to be mammals like they usually are.

Starfish	18 Jun 2002
Quote: Originally posted by emily2otters liliana wrote:...and she doesn't have a belly button, which may be disturbing if you consider princesses to be mammals like they usually are. That was the very first thing I noticed in the card! :TQP Starfish

Liliana	18 Jun 2002
That was sooooooooo funny ROFLMAO I thinkhe was trying to portray a disk (pentacles are disks in the deck,personally id call them spheres.) If you look closesly the disk really isnt attached to her,infact its a different color than her skin,i think its supposed to be like an egg. It gives her the illusion of being pregnant,boy theres a lot of interpretation possiilities in that. I also wonder why the leaves totally covering her eyes, blinding her? Could it be a mothers love for her children is blind? I love this deck hehe, so much to think on :THP

Faerie Lin	18 Jun 2002
ok, NOW "I've" fallen in the trap also.... i'm getting this deck. Lin

Ravenswing	18 Jun 2002
if we look into a bit of kabala... the princess of pents would represent the final stage of the material world-- pregnant and ready to deliver the earth. pre-empress in a way; the empress 'rules' what has already been created. as to navel-- eve wouldn't have one (??) LVX steve

Faerie Lin	18 Jun 2002
Thats right huh? Eve wouldn't have one, for Adam and Eve were "created" not "born" out of the womb. This reminds me of that one "Charmed" episode lol. Sorry had to add that in... Lin

Lee	18 Jun 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Jewel Hi Liliana! the Rhorhig is an interesting deck. You might want to consider making future individual card posts in the talking tarot, general study group forum or chat or some other section before that big bad ole meanie Lee ~giggles~ moves your thread to some hard to find forum like tech-support *LOL* .... sorry Lee I could not resist! *LOL*. Well, it seems to me that talking about individual cards from specific decks falls within the purview of Tarot Decks, so my inclination is to let it stay right here. But I don't know what my erstwhile co-moderator might say. -- Lee

jmd	18 Jun 2002
co-agree :)

aeonx	19 Jun 2002
Due to all these posts on the Rohrig tarot (one which I started ;) ), I have now decided to get this deck. :D However, I have to wait till I return from my holiday. :( *pout* I'll join you in a study-group then if we are to start one. ~aeonx~

Jewel	19 Jun 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Lee Well, it seems to me that talking about individual cards from specific decks falls within the purview of Tarot Decks, so my inclination is to let it stay right here. But I don't know what my erstwhile co-moderator might say. -- Lee Cool thanks Lee and JMD!

Liliana	19 Jun 2002
good i was ok posting here, doesnt look good for a moderators posts to be moved lol And i am quite proud of my evil self for forcing so many to buy this deck muhaha May I recommend the book too? It provides great insight into the majors, sometimes not even Rohrig specific theres a great Hierophant insight for rider waite decks, and full color glossy photos of all 78 cards without borders. And you can make fun of the Hanged Man being naked section when hes pictured with clothes now due to publisher stupidity hehe Oh,and a nice reiki-ed tarot tote from www.tarottotes.com to put it in........;) muhahaha Oh, and thanks for your insight steve, that was really cool :THP

Kaz	19 Jun 2002
Quote: Oh,and a nice reiki-ed tarot tote from www.tarttotes.com to put it in........ if i ever need that i will reiki it myself :P in what sort of box they come liliana, do they really need a bag? i just keep decks in the original boxes. kaz

Liliana	19 Jun 2002
if thats how you keep your decks, no,their box is as nice as any other card box :) but tarottotes has some pretty stuff :THP

aeonx	20 Jun 2002
Liliana: I couldn't get the link to work. :( Help? ~aeonx~

Pollux	20 Jun 2002
Try this www.tarottotes.com Liliana mis-typed it :P

aeonx	20 Jun 2002
Thanks Pollux. :* OOOOOOHHHH, I love those little stars following the pointer! :D ~aeonx~

Liliana	20 Jun 2002
oh pollux what would i do without you,someone with a working keyboard (((((((((((((POLLUX))))))))))))))))) :THP

Zhritza	23 Jun 2002
I just know I'm eventually going to end up getting the darn Rohrig... It's so airbrushy, but that's what makes it so vivid; and hey, Giger's an airbrush artist, so I can't be too much of a snob about the medium... The Rohrig is too big for my hands and the disembodied breasts are sorta silly. But I'll end up with the deck. Eventually. :rolleyes:

Molly	25 Jun 2002
<<< Im thinking to fully get the Rohrig Im going to need a good Thoth book. Any recomendations that might work for a Thoth spin off? >>>> I have the Tarot Workbook by Angeles Airren... it is illustrated with the Toth deck and explains the meaning of the symbols found in the cards. These are more psychological and down-to-earth descriptions than those written by Alister Crowley (this opinion is from what I have heard from others and read online, as I have not read Alister Crowley's books). I do not own the Toth deck and have no desire to, but I was intrigued by aspects of the book (explanations of astrology and "dark cards") so I bought it.

Zhritza	25 Jun 2002
I found the Rohrig used at a local shop and I think I'll get it. Does anyone know whether the book is readily available by itself?

aeonx	26 Jun 2002
Qolus: Yes, at Amazon.co.uk: Rohrig tarot (deck and book seperately). Or Amazon.com: Rohrig... :) ~aeonx~

Molly	27 Jun 2002
When Lillianna gave the link she accidently spelled it wrong (left out an "o" *G*) - that's why it's not working. I did visit the site, though, and how cool! Lots of great sale items right now too! I had already preceeded to check out when I realized I didn't have any money *G*!

Molly	27 Jun 2002
Okay - sorry! I read the end of page 2 and replied to it without seeing page 3... good learning experience for this newbie here!!! so sorry about the redundancy :::sheepish look::: ;-)

Zhritza	28 Jun 2002
Quote: Originally posted by aeonx Qolus: Yes, thank you :*

Liliana	28 Jun 2002
I editied my post now that i have a working keyboard to prevent further confusion or to add to it since now Pollux is correcting something that doesnt need correcting lol :THP

Zhritza	29 Jun 2002
I have the Rohrig. It is so wonderful! I couldn't tell from the images I've seen online that the notebook-page motif was even present. It adds a wonderful dimension to the cards, because having handwritten words here and there on them allows your subconscious to pick things up and reinterpret them for itself. Most of all, I love the landscapes at the bottom of many of the cards. Now I gotta track down that book... :rolleyes: :D

Liliana	29 Jun 2002
I love the little police guy at the bottom of the wheel, hes so cute ;) :THP

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