Véritable tarot de Marseilles by Editions de Mortagne

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 18 Sep 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

catlin	18 Sep 2002
Could someone give me more information about this deck? Since I am in the Marseilles study group, I am more interested in this type of deck.

jmd	19 Sep 2002
I do not know which version of the Marseilles is published by Mortagne. Would it be possible to provide either links, or post either the 2 of Coins or the VII - Chariot card. I too would really like to know more about this intriguing deck!

jema	19 Sep 2002
did a search on google and came up with this: http://www.playingcardsales.co.uk/nbtar/h0000571.htm not much to go by but there are a few images.

catlin	19 Sep 2002
I found it at www.playingcardsales.com but there was no further indication to it.

jmd	19 Sep 2002
Obviously a reproduction I need to have! One aspect of the deck I can't make historical sense of, however, is the dating on the two of Coins: it shows 1996 as obviously the re-colouration by the modern artist, but it also gives the earlier date of 1181. Normally, the earlier date signals the date of the design from which the current publisher is either utilising the deck, or the publisher's earliest publication, which may not have been Tarot. If it is the latter, I find this a bit of a pity, as it may lead to false impressions. If the former, they must have access to a deck which every historian would dearly like further details! Again, thanks for the link. It looks like a fine standard Marseilles type deck - judging from only four cards!

Diana	19 Sep 2002
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catlin	19 Sep 2002
Hi jmd, That's just what I thought. I have e-mailed to Mr Somerville to get some more information but as he is out of office until next week I suppose I Won't get a reply so early.

Diana	21 Sep 2002
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Kaz	22 Sep 2002
let's order bulk, i want this deck as well kaz

Pollux	22 Sep 2002
Mh... after a long chat with these two ladies... Yes, I want this deck too... :P Bulk order would be cool! *LOL* How much would it be, let me check... around €23. Mh... Diana, how much is it in town? *LOL* And where is the letter? I don't reckon it was posted, was it? :confused:

Kaz	22 Sep 2002
there is a yahoo group with kris hadar about tarot et numerologie here : TarotPratique. and he also has his own website :www.krishadar.com kaz

Diana	22 Sep 2002
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Diana	24 Sep 2002
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catlin	25 Sep 2002
Hi Diana, Thanks to you and jmd for providing us with the letter. Hmm, I have to admit that the theory of Mr Hadar would second the theory of the Oriental origin of tarot (naibes) and their way through the crusaides back to the Region d'Oc and from there spreading throughout Europe. This would also fit in the decret of 1356 in which a monk states that playing card games was forbidden (although he does not mention tarot per se, so we don't know what card game he is referring to). Personally I am still torn between settling the origines of tarot either in the Arabe world or to Ancient China.

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