Visconti Gold deck/book set
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 03 Oct 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Lee |
03 Oct 2002 |
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I saw this a few days ago at a local Borders, and was quite surprised, as I had no idea they were going to make such a thing. It's published by Llewellyn and Lo Scarabeo. I can't find it on Amazon, but here is Llewellyn's listing. The book is by Giordano Berti and someone else, I think.
-- Lee
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| Maan |
03 Oct 2002 |
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Thanks lee for the info!
I'm planning on getting this deck for sometime now and i think i'm going for the set!
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| Cerulean |
04 Oct 2002 |
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I just got this! Thanks for the update, Lee...I found this thread today, found the set at my local Barnes and Noble in California. The deck has more interesting Devil and Tower cards than the 2000/2001 version and the book really is interesting. I found the gold stamping to be more uniform...I cannot tell if the upside-down problem is corrected, but at first glance, the book and cards seem to match closely.
My only card gripes is the slime-green backs, but it might just be the late artificial light in my home.
The book description of the cards are historical and references literature---and my favorite, Dante! But the divinatory meanings seem to be the old fashioned Lo Scarabeo ones that you might have seen in older sets. I remember seeing that the Queen of Swords is usually a divorced woman or person with a difficult personality.
Still, the gripes are minor to me---I can rewrite or reference other meanings. I don't know about the card backs until the morning...the value of the deck to me is enhanced with the detailed book.
Mari Hoshizaki
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| Lee |
04 Oct 2002 |
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Hey, Mari, thanks -- I had been curious to hear from someone who had gotten the deck/book set.
-- Lee
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| catlin |
07 Oct 2002 |
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I think this is the set we also have here in Germany, I am quite satisfied with it but I have had no time to check the book.
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| Phoenix |
12 Oct 2002 |
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I am glad that someone brought up this topic! I have been admiring this deck from afar, and now, I found it at Chapters' website, and at a good price none the less too! I think I may have to order it!
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| Zhritza |
13 Oct 2002 |
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Originally posted by Mari_Hoshizaki
The deck has more interesting Devil and Tower cards than the 2000/2001 version and the book really is interesting. I found the gold stamping to be more uniform...I cannot tell if the upside-down problem is corrected, but at first glance, the book and cards seem to match closely.
Could you see a difference in how shiny the foil was compared to other Visconti decks you've seen? I would like a Visconti with somewhat muted gold, and the standard U. S. Games one is just too flashy but I don't want to buy the other, more expensive version they have, or the $40 Cary-Yale (someday maybe, but not soon).
The book and deck set could be a re-release, because bordersstores.com (which is not as reliable for information as Amazon and bn.com are, sadly) lists that ISBN as being out of print, which is old news, I'm sure. Or maybe Llewellyn/Lo Scarabeo were set to print it, gave the various big stores the info, and then cancelled the plan to print it...
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| catboxer |
13 Oct 2002 |
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Mari:
You mentioned the Devil and Tower cards in your new deck as being more interesting than their counterparts in the 2000/2001 edition. Does your deck have these images by A.A. Atanassov?
These are my favorite replacement trumps for this deck that I've seen. Atanassov adapted them from a stray sheet of woodblock-derived cards (only six cards from this deck were preserved, in an old book binding). The sheet was in the Rothschild collection, and is now in the Louvre. It's Italian and very old -- possibly it goes back to the fifteenth century. His reworking of them gives the product, I think, more authenticity than it would have if it included images that were modern compositions made from scratch.
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| Cerulean |
14 Oct 2002 |
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1. The gold foil question---the embossed lines are somewhat thicker and actually reach out to the edges of the costume or card in a nicer way in the 2002 English edition, the boxed set with the new book.
2. No, there isn't an online example of the new devil or tower card.
The one posted in the prior message is in the 2000 and 2001 card decks without the new book and they have brown marbelled backs.
I cannot find any online example of this new devil/tower card---my feeling or thought was that the Mark Filpas review actually refers to the 2002 kit with the new book. It sounds confusing, so I hope my posting of the ISBN might help
The ISBN of the kit with the book and with the new devil and tower cards is O-7387-0293-5. This bigger kit has gold foiling that has thicker lines in the costumes of the major trumps and the funny yellow-green backs. I compared them to my than my small box from a bookstore in 2000 and 2001 (I gave one copy away recently). The new kit lists "Tarots restored by A.A. Atanassov".
The smaller boxes of the 2000 or 2001, I think, had the Lo Scarabeo name--although I think it's distribution was by Llewellyn.
Hope that helps.
Mari H.
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| Lee |
26 Dec 2002 |
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Hi Mari (or anyone else who has this set),
I already have the older, smaller USGames version of the Gold Visconti, but I'm considering getting this set... can you tell me, does the book go into any greater detail about interpreting the Minors than the little phrases on the text cards found in my older version? I'm interested in the history of the deck, but I'm also interested in ways to interpret Minors, and I'm not sure I want to spend the money for the set if all it does is repeat the same short formulas for the Minors.
Thanks so much --
Lee
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