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Flying pentacles: what do you think of Trevisan's Renaissance deck

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 16 Nov 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

fairyhedgehog  16 Nov 2002 
I've recently got this deck in a trade from truthsayer (thank you truthsayer :) ) and I absolutely love it. The watercolour paintings are magical and fairytale-ish, just what I like. And some of the pictures are great fun - like the flying pentacles in the five of pentacles, looking like frisbees flying over the town.

I was wondering what other people make of it. My initial thoughts are:

The major arcana seem to me to lack detail, which doesn't much matter as I bring so much to the major arcana anyway.

The court cards are slightly boring, although not all of them. Who is that dwarf with the Queen of Cups, and is she ignoring him or off to get drunk with him?

The minors are terrific, especially the pentacles. Like, what's with the flying pentacles pursuing the woman down the lane in the 7 of Pentacles?

I'd love to know what other people think of this deck and if you have any interesting interpretations based on the unusual pictures. 


firemaiden  16 Nov 2002 
Dear fairyhedgehog,

I am so glad you posted this, because I have been dying to express my love for this deck. I got it last August, and since this forum has instantly made a tarotholic of me, it competes for attention with twelve other decks. But it wins hands down every time. I agree I just love the beautiful watercolors. The minors are so imaginative. I don't know what it is but everytime I read with this deck, it seems to speak so clearly to me. Yeah...the courts are a little boring, well, just kind of plain, but at least they are always beautiful and graceful.
Some of my most favorite cards:

6 of swords -- St George with a slain dragon!

9 of cups -- the old man going into a house with all the windows lit up with cups -- this one always reminds me of those "big house dreams", where I go wandering from room to room to room.

2 of cups -- reminds me of the ghost ship Fliegender Holländer

3 of denari - a beautiful castle in autumn

4 of denari -- reflections in a lake! I seem to almost always draw this card too.

8 of wands - the night watchman in a red cape, reminds me of the opera Tosca.

4 of cups -- a lady polishing her chalices. I always draw this card too, - always after I have been doing exactly what she is, polishing and taking care of my things, putting my affairs in order.

10 of cups - the woman flying over the countryside with the coins flying too. This one reminds me of all my flying dreams!

I think the ace of cups is incredibly beautiful too. Th silver chalice with all kinds of different people molded on it.

I love the Moon too, with a beautiful face, and a castle. It reminds me of a childhood illustration for "the cow jumped over the moon".

Since I am still pretty much a non-believer, still playing with and learning the Tarot, just enjoying the artwork, this is really the only deck I have that could make a believer out of me, because when I try to read with it, I find the images are so clear, they often really resonate with what I am doing, or have just done, and that is amazing.
love
paula 


Cerulean  16 Nov 2002 
1. Taken from the other Trevisan thread:
Scroll down to find familar fine artworks by Giorgio Trevisan: the English versions of bios available on Giorgio Trevisan show that he was born in 1934, graduated in Classical Studies and was an illustrator for comic books, as well as a fine artist. The latest work seems to show his Venetian and romantic style, especially with the uses of beautiful washes of colors:

http://space.tin.it/arte/guavaler/pit_12-11-98.htm

Historically, Venice is known for Titian and the beautiful use of rosy colors became known in the Renaissance...yes, I see it in Trevisan's work. Maybe I am looking for it?

2.
I removed the earlier link. The other reviews that I posted in the other thread was kindly also noted by others. Mark Filpas and I believe Wicce's review refers to the 1995 editions; Joan Cole (?) seems to refer to the 2000 edition with the nice pamphlet.

Trevisan's paintings are very nice, rather humerous. There also seems to be a majors only edition with 22 cards either in large or small format available on Alidastore.com and the mass market edition of 78 cards.

Once in awhile I used to see a smaller Lo Scarabeo 1995 edition around with 78 cards that doesn't have the little white book---the box would be smaller than the other Lo Scarabeo deck and the only explanation will be 9 little cards with generic meanings.

I hope that's clear. I like the deck, reminds me generically of gentle nursery rhymes and funny characters, or my imaginative ideas of some Western European stories.

Mari H. 


Demonesse  17 Nov 2002 
Is there a link where I can view the deck? 


Pollux  17 Nov 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Demonesse
Is there a link where I can view the deck?


Card images at the LO SCARABEO site
More images at the IL TRIGONO site
Box and one card (LOL) - Alida
(Italians sites! ;) *proud*)

Review and Images by Wicce
Review and Images by Mark Philipas


I am sure I can find a pic of the flying pentacles, I have seen it somewhere... Argh! }) 


Pollux  17 Nov 2002 
Quote:
Originally posted by Mari_Hoshizaki
Trevisan's paintings are very nice, rather humerous.
I checked the wonderful tarot site to read a little more about him: he's a Venetian painter and seems to have been popular as an illustrator in Europe.
Mari, please, will you share the address of the tarot site?
Is it the LoScarabeo one?

Quote:
Originally posted by Mari_Hoshizaki
More discussion details and links on the following thread:
http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.phps=&threadid=5322&highlight=giorgio+trevisan
I have tried to open that thread, but the link doesn't work... :( 


Sea Sprite  17 Nov 2002 
Hi fairyhedgehog,

After viewing your post and seeing the images; I'm gonna have to get a deck. :) 


firemaiden  17 Nov 2002 
Here is a bio from this site:

http://www.lambiek.net/trevisan_g.htm

"Giorgio Trevisan was born in Bolzano in 1934, where he graduated in his classical studies. He then moved to Milan, where he became an illustrator for the Corriere della Sera. His comics credits include 'Mister Song', 'Ken Parker', 'Doug Malone', 'Archie' and the futuristic 'Silver Shadow' series. Later in his career, Trevisan became famous for his series of Tarot cards, called 'Tarots of the Renaissance'."

It doesn't sound like he is a venetian painter, if he is a comic strip artist from Bolzano.... 


firemaiden  17 Nov 2002 
Oh! Sorry, I found the Aeclectic tarot link by doing a search. Link to an earlier thread. Now I see what you mean by "Venetian" painter, you meant stylistically. As mentioned elsewhere, he also did the beautiful Tarot Romantici art deck. Why do you say he "was" , isn't he still alive??

thread link: I hope

Giorgio Trevisan decks?

http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5322&highlight=trevisan 


fairyhedgehog  19 Nov 2002 
I so nearly missed seeing all your wonderful replies here :eek:

paula - I think it was a post of yours made me think to post the initial thread. It is so good to see someone else who is enthusiastic about this deck. I'm finding I use very intuitive interpretations of the cards - ie ones that often don't bear much resemblance to any traditional meaning I know of. But they work so well :)

Mari H - I'm sorry I missed your earlier thread when I posted this but I'm glad that I've read it now. You certainly found a lot of information about the creator of this deck :)

Pollux - thanks for all the links :)

SeaSprite - Oh dear! I'm guilty of increasing taroholism on this forum! Eek! })

I'm still interested if anyone has any interesting 'meanings' for some of those unusual minors ... 


Cerulean  27 Feb 2005 
I've had this deck for more than five years (two versions: I use the smaller Italian language version issued in the late 1990's)...since this thread, I've acquired one children's history book illustrated by Giorgio Trevisan.

Many of the links for Giorgio Trevisan's art still seem to work--I don't know if he is still alive or if he is really married to Elissabeta Trevisan, as written in some of the above websites. But I do appreciate that I can use this deck with others and I like the paintings very much.

I use the smaller Italian-language version because the coloring seems deeper and less washed-out--more of a match of what I see in his other paintings and the children's book I enjoy checking out.

In a reading, I notice variations in the meanings of the minors and majors based on how the sequence of the pictures seem to work for me. Many of the figures seem to be facing different points of view: walking away from the audience; facing the left or right; sometimes alone, sometimes with others. And every pip card seems to have the right number of pips integrated with the picture, in my eyes. I appreciate how the illustration works for me.

I think it's family friendly and creative as well...for instance, the Star is draped with night shades of color in a lovely way. Other characters such as shirtless men doing a joust seem to be also in other cards toasting to each other, as if they resolved their differences. There's age, youth, humor, beauty, contemplation and many moods. If the card has a mysterious meaning, there is a feeling of the card meaning in how the figure or scene is depicted. Some scenes do not have human figures, such as the two of cup--where two chalices are floating in a swell, with a masted ship in full sail at some distance away.

I'm organizing my thoughts...just needed to rest in these stories for awhile.

Regards,

Cerulean 


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