Shapeshifter Tarot deck ... your thoughts

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 17 Dec 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Alissa	17 Dec 2002
I just bought this deck and am wondering what others think of it? I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, so I've yet to hold the cards, but I bought it for several reasons. My primary deck is the Universal Waite. However, and this is odd but I hope you understand, this deck is telling me it wants to be put away to rest for a while. It needs time to regain strength. (I did a short reading on the issue with the deck itself). So, I was looking for something to replace it. I've been thinking about several other decks a lot too. I find the artwork beautiful in the Shapeshifter, I felt the vibrant images and borderless cards quite appealing. I also associate wands with air, and swords with fire -- which this deck does. There are added cards, 3 cards, which adhere closer to the Celtic traditions, and various other changes which I will leave to you owners to detail and hopefully give your thoughts on. The other BIG reason I wanted this deck was because it was a companion deck with the same artist's Celtic Dragon deck, which my sister is expecting. So I liked the connection between these two very different decks, much like my connection to my -very different from me- sister (sagitarian, here). In any case, I was hoping to get some feedback from other Shapeshifter users as to your experience, personal or professional? Also, is it a good primary deck for reading for the public with? This is one of the uses I intend for it, after all. Namaste and thanks ever so, in advance :D

RedWood	17 Dec 2002
I have this deck..It is VERY BEAUTIFUL..but i Have not used it yet..I guess it hasnt called to me yet...I hope you like it! and can use it!

violinlily	17 Dec 2002
Have gotten rid of former post, and would like to add: I got this deck for XMas, and I really like it, though have not had the time to do anything w/ it except make a bag for it. :(

Pollux	18 Dec 2002
Just thought I'd add some links to past threads, to warm up the atmosphere... http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2726 http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4312 http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5535 http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5787 Come on people!!! Come reply to Alissa's questions! :) *I have a thing for dancers... LOL*

Jewel	18 Dec 2002
The deck is trully gorgeous. For a while I honestly thought it would be great to decoupage something with it, until I participated in a workgroup where one of the members used the deck. The readings she got were very accurate and good, and really made me rethink my opinion of this deck. I think what has challenged me the most are the 3 extra majors. My feeling is that this deck perhaps should have been created as an entirely different system of divination and not called Tarot. As I said earlier though, I have seen the deck work very effectively. In my book the jury is still out on this one. But no question about the beauty of the art.

Alissa	18 Dec 2002
Great threads, Pollux! Thank you!! I did a search with "Shapeshifter" and "Shapeshifter Tarot" before posting my thread, but waded through a lot of stuff that was obscure. But you found the stuff particular to this deck, kudos, my man~! I do admit the extra majors give the Tarot purist in me a serious "tweak", but I'm trying to remain open. I felt drawn to the Cards, for sure, so I hope the connection continues once they arrive. Who knows, i may even open up the request line in the Readings forum if I feel I need more help "breaking them in" -- but not until after the holidays, I'd think. Everything I'm reading about the book makes me want to ignore it, and connect on my own first. I really buck at the idea that you have to approach a deck through reading a book first. Being a Libra though .... I can certainly see and appreciate learning all the *additional aspects* to the deck's artwork, and symbology, with time. But if I think I have to read a book, and memorize it for Card usage, before reading .......... oh ferget it. I'll never get around to doing it. ther'es a Spider on my monitor... ohhhh myyyyy gotta gooo right nowwwwwww oh p.s. I got so flipped out by the now-removed spider, I forgot to add that if there's still any interest in a Shapeshifter group, I'd be likely to join in, once mine get to me.

Alissa	18 Dec 2002
Isn't it interesting that a wood spider, with the longest front legs you ever did see, came crawling over my monitor (a FIRST, even in my forest cabin) right when I was posting about a deck that deals with getting in touch with your animal totem? And, ahem, I spin. That is, I hand spin on my spinning wheel (or drop spindle) and knit my own wool (and other fibers) ...... anyone seeing a spider connection all the sudden? Spiders are often getting transplanted from inside to outside my home. I don't believe in killing them, if I can avoid it and just put them outside with the assistance of a broom or cup. Seeing a spider isn't so strange, but seeing one come crawling right over my mointor like that WAS spooky! And then, thought provoking enough to warrant an additional post, I figured :) (And Pollux ... you flatter me. Pray, do continue ;))

Osher	18 Dec 2002
I read everyone's posts, in all the 5 threads on this subject, and intrigued by the Shapeshifter tarot. I can't recall a deck (except maybe Thoth) that has split people so much into those who love it, and those who can't grasp it. I had to have a look at the scans, and to be honest, not one for me. Oh the pictures are nice, and I could probably read with it if I had to, but when I looked at the pictures I just didn't click with them. Oh well. Horses for courses.

Shadow Wolf	21 Dec 2002
I looked at this deck briefly in Barnes and Noble one day, on one of my "mom's night out ". I'm fascinated by Animal totems and have always had a love for all kinds of animals. I found this deck very interesting, and the artwork is beautiful. I don't know when I'll get a chance to get it to buy it though, hubby thinks I'm a little too close to the edge as it is. Anyway, I really liked what I saw. It was really fascinating.

cjtarot	21 Dec 2002
Hi all, Here is my take...TAKE THE BOOK READ IT THENTOSS IT.... What I found with this set is the book is wonderful reading but when it comes to reading the deck, as long as you have a feel for you animals and who is strong, weak, smart..so on, you can read this deck by picture alone. I find it easy to read by what I see in the pictures of the cards. They are compelling pictures with hidden signs... Try it.. Blessings, Cj

WolfSpirit	22 Dec 2002
I've been away for a few weeks but I cannot of course ignore a thread on the shapeshifter deck :) I love the artwork, that is why I got the deck, and I also had great readings with it. IMO it works best for spiritual questions, as it is such a spiritual deck. It also works good for meditation, as the artwork is just so gorgeous... You probably don't really need the book, but I love using it... it describes the meanings in a very spiritual way IMO, not really something I did not already know, but the book says it so beautifully, it really helps me getting more in touch with my inner feelings. I haven't read all the symbolism though, if you read all that in one go it will also get terribly confusing. You don't really need that info, but I read bits of it now and then, it is symbols that will also reoccur in other pagan/animal decks I love so it is certainly not wasted. GET THIS DECK AND ENJOY :D

Alissa	22 Dec 2002
I finally got the deck Friday and did my usual pouring over the cards (and finding the one that feels like this particular deck's significator). This morning I finally did my first reading with the cards, a new deck spread, and one thing I've certainly noticed as well is the deeply spiritual connection these cards have, that WolfSpirit mentions above. That is a big plus for me, in how I connect when I read. Also, and this is curious, but the reversals don't feel like regular reversals. The energy doesn't feel "blocked" but it does feel much more like my original method of interpretting reversals = as the same message, but applied to the interior world (thoughts feelings emotions) as opposed to regular cards applying to the external (material) world. The book says nothing on reversals in their individual card "meanings," which is fine by me. Also, there are certain cards which have a very different illustration/meaning than the Rider Waite style I'm most accustomed to. Ace of pentacles, and 4 wands, both look more like 2 cups to me. And two cups, well that just looks different, less romantic as it usually is. Thjere are a number of other slightly different messaages I can see in the cards, but they are quite quite nice so far. Hopefully I will get more out of them once I can put them to more use soon. Any other users care to share more specific thoughts on Shape's unique cards, illustrations, and such matters? The extra Majors I'm still getting my brain around.

WolfSpirit	24 Dec 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Alissa Also, and this is curious, but the reversals don't feel like regular reversals. The energy doesn't feel "blocked" but it does feel much more like my original method of interpretting reversals = as the same message, but applied to the interior world (thoughts feelings emotions) as opposed to regular cards applying to the external (material) world. The book says nothing on reversals in their individual card "meanings," which is fine by me. I think in the general part of the book it says that the deck is not meant for reversals, which explains why there is no reversed meaning given. If I remember correctly, someone here said reversals looked weird with this deck because the pictures are so detailed, it is like hanging a painting upside down. But I like your way of reading reversals as interior factors, I can see that this works well with a deck like this. I don't use reversals at the moment, I learnt so many new things about tarot the last months I think I should not try anything new at the moment or my head will spin.

paradoxx	25 Dec 2002
I would call this deck (as well as teh faerie oracle and any other decks that call themselves tarot with minor revisions) a Tarot Oracle or Tarot Based Oracle. This deck and teh Celtic Dragon deck go well together and can be used together for clarification through two different means of asosicateing the comsic energy soruces available within the pictoral form. I have yet to find a Bison or a Jackalope which i am slightly dissapointed with, regardless, i hope that the trio of spirtually guided women can divine future decks with similar tones and power.

Alissa	25 Dec 2002
Quote: Originally posted by WolfSpirit But I like your way of reading reversals as interior factors, I can see that this works well with a deck like this. I don't use reversals at the moment, I learnt so many new things about tarot the last months I think I should not try anything new at the moment or my head will spin. Well, as an English major I was drilled with the need to cite one's sources. Therefore .... It isn't "my" way, really. It was something I learned from Gail Fairfield's book Choice Centered Tarot -- which was one of the earliest "real" (i.e. non-LWB) Tarot books I connected with. I didn't use reversals for the first 3 years or so that I really started reading. And then when I did, I started using them in the "Fairfield" way of applying the meanings to the interior realm. It was the only way I could begin grappling with them. I just started reading reversals more like, well ... "regular" reversals this summer. I think you're wise to wait and absorb things slowly. To me, it took a while for the muddy waters to settle again. Once they did, I was able to learn more effectively from there.

bec	26 Dec 2002
as some of you have read in old posts and threads - thirteen likes to call me the goddess of reversals, and jewel tends to call me the boards shapie expert. well guess what guys ... :D I dont use reversals in shapie :) (I find that amuzing anyway) what I really wanted to comment here in addition to everything else said is about the 3 additional majors. How can decks be with out them ?? When I learned and found an understanding in these 3, suddenly the majors made sense. I so much miss those 3 cards in like RW, cause the circle of majors got some serious lacks of, what about all of those who dont follow the traditional path, and well doh we are quite of few of those arent we. 1st additional we got "the double" Indication that you want to look as if you got it all and know it all. You have made your journey, and you are supposed to be done, but realy you are leading a double, pretending, showing one face on the out side, while you are hiding inside. This card verses the dreamer, is showing that the one getting the double, properly is fully aware of this betrayl, sneaky as a fox, luring as a woman, grounding in emotions letting the rings in water (emotional turmoilts) spread, letting ground and foundation stand as it can or cant (tree in water). You have left ground, earth behind you. In shapie, this is the card about infedelity, the two-timer. This person have no intension of making the journey all over again. 2nd additional we got "the journey" The journey showing the "healthy" tour through the majors, this person is ready to gather the experiences, tools and gained knowlegde and start of a new journey. This person learns from mistakes and lessons in life, and understands how to use them. On the contrary from the double, this one learned something from hanging, or in shapeie, he learned how to shapeshift, seeking with in, and always kept his true self with him. The double learned how to show a mask that fit the situation. 3rd additional we got "the dreamer" This one didnt make in the real world, the dreamer is building castles and make believes in heart and dangerously in mind too, flowting from reality to their own world of fantasy. Maybe they are to romantic to being able to face our hard facted world. The dreamer is living out what they believe is the truth, spending to much money as they are milionaires, dressing out with bare bellys and thongs even if they are 30 p overweight. In contrary to the double these are building up masks with in, as the double are doing out wards. This is how I see the 3 x-tra cards, what did you get out of your journey ?? On what basis are you starting the new circle. IMO, who can live with out the 3 additionals :)' blessings anja I have edited this post,as I wrongly wrote these are 3 add's after the world. that is not correct of course, they are 21-double 22-journey and 23-dreamer - final come 24-Oneness. Sorry bout that.

Silaria	26 Dec 2002
I purchased these cards not too long ago after drooling over the artwork for about 2 years. (I waited so long because I didn't want to by another deck until I had an idea of how to read the deck I had.) I find these cards very appealing to look at and read. The detail in the artwork floors me and I see something new every time I've examined them. Right now I use them only to read for myself because I'm still learning the deck - especially how to read the 3 extra majors. So far every reading I've done with them has been very insightful.

Trogon	26 Dec 2002
First off... I do agree that this is a beautiful deck. The artwork is astounding. But right now, it's not on my "wish list"... at least I don't think it is. ;) I'm not completely sure why. When I've looked at it in the stores and the scans on-line, I love the artwork, but it just doesn't reach out and grab me as a deck I need to get right now. Just not quite ready for it yet I guess. bec, your comments on the 3 extra cards really intrigues me. In many ways what you describe sound to me like they could be some aspects of The Fool card in some other decks. I think I'm going to have to consider your thoughts and possibly add them as aspects of the 0 card. For instance, your take on "The Double"; Quote: Indication that you want to look as if you got it all and know it all. You have made your journey, and you are supposed to be done, but realy you are leading a double, pretending, showing one face on the out side, while you are hiding inside. This makes me think of The Fool from the Röhrig Tarot which shows someone with a face which is half man and half woman. Your comments sound very much like a more negative aspect of such a card. Your comments on The Journey and The Dreamer seem to me to fit in very well with my feelings on The Fool too. Good posting... really made me think and helped me to articulate (in my own feeble mind) some of my thoughts on this card. Thanks.

Summerdream	26 Dec 2002
I just got this deck for Christmas yesterday and haven't gotten a chance to read the book or do a new deck spread yet but I have to say this deck is absolutely gorgeous. I've wanted it for a long time. I can't wait to start working with this deck. The pictures are lovely and really moving. One thing I was suprised about though is on the review here it shows the cards as having no borders and titles and they have a blue border around them with the card number and title. It's nice they are titled though. I highly recommend this deck to anyone who is thinking about purchasing it.

bec	26 Dec 2002
YES you are dead on right :) Why didnt I think of that, the 3 add's are exactly related to the fool. Only .... what they give being physical instead of another side of interpretation is IMO the answer, the lifted curtain of ..... What is the fool bringing for the next journey. See ? When we talk about the fool, some of the Questions are bound to be ? is he blind or dont he care, does he not mind the road on purpose, is the dog warning him or just playful. What is the deal. Will he fall or fly ? The 3 add's in shapie can give that " The root of the fool" and "The ground world is made of". Being physical instead of just another turn, they give our deepest motive for action, reaction and responding.

Alissa	26 Dec 2002
I was hoping you might chime in, after reading older threads with your posts on this deck. ;) And Trogon, I appreciated your comments as well, which really got me to thinking.... I hadn't even begun to think about the meanings of the 3 extra Majors, and your description bec really helps crystallize the concepts of these Cards beautifully~! To me, they are almost like "Outcome" cards for the Fool. Like you said, what does s/he have to take with them for the next journey. I really like that these cards point ahead ... I've always felt a bit trapped in the stagnation of the World as a completion point. This deck really does extend the concept of the evolution of the Self. Still interested in doing a Shapie study group bec ... anyone ... ?

sagitarian	26 Dec 2002
As I was reading bec's interpratation of the meanings of the three extra majors of this deck, then scrolling down seeing the post (don't remember who wrote it, sorry) about how bec's description was another interpratation of the fool, for some reason, I knew they were talking about the fool, but the image of the hanged man came to my mind. I think a lot of what bec described is also fitting for the hanged man as well (at least as I always understand it) that the person was there, done with their journey, and made him/herself who and where s/he is today, wether it be ill or for good. Regardless the person was willing to dare to dream, go after their dream, and accept whatever fate had in store for their decision. I find the hanged man to be a very powerful descriptive card and often comes up with people who are described as dreamers, outcasts, or for those who make their own destiny through their dreams and their own will (vs. going into a profession b/c mom and pop want them to, etc.). On another note, I can't wait to recieve the gift my sister (alissa) got for me, and I'm really excited that we'll be using sister decks, although I don't feel right posting much about the celtic dragon here due to two reasons... 1. This is suppose to be about the shapeshifter tarot... and 2. I haven't even recieved the deck yet to really make any comments on or about it or how it reads or anything. In any case, I just thought that the descriptions used also fit the hanged man as well. kudos!

bec	27 Dec 2002
Yes you are right with the describtive hanged man - #12 is half way through the journey and a very big factor in how you combine your mundane learnings with your inner exploitations. One of the things I think the hanging man is learning, is how he feels and where he is in the great cosmic world. Where I see the different in shapies 3 add's and the hanged man, is simply the number in progress. As allissa said, the outcome of the fool, only that is not how I view it. I would prefer "the outcome of the world" and "the INcome of the fool". The 3 add's is sort of telling what happend while you hanged, and what did you see the world bring/ get from the journey.

Alissa	27 Dec 2002
Quote: Originally posted by bec The 3 add's is sort of telling what happend while you hanged, and what did you see the world bring/ get from the journey. hmmmmmm very interesting bec and sag. I hadn't even considered the Hanged man's role in this, but it IS one of the Fool's archetypes that he experiences along the World Journey. To me, the Fool is often Everyman -- cast yourself here kinda role. And INcome is a nice way of putting it bec. I have to go now before my toddler destroys his crib again........

WolfSpirit	28 Dec 2002
bec thanks for your explanation of the 3 extra majors. Do you always read the double and the dreamer in a negative sense ? because the book does not see them all that negative; it sees the dreamer as "the release of your true spirit" and how you have to pay attention to your dreams. So dreams are not seen as delusions. I do see the description of the double has a lot in common with yours, "beware of the trickster".... Really love where you place them among the majors. From reading the posts, there is quite some people who got the shapeshifter for christmas :) Hope you will all enjoy this deck. I wonder if the people who use this deck have trouble with the court cards, in particular the switching of the king and queen (king becomes goddess and queen becomes god) ? I tend to read the cards as I see them, therefore read the goddess as I would the queen and the god as the king, although the book tells me differently. Don't know why they switched it really, and when i read the description in the book I still see no reason why the goddess would correspond with the king not with the queen... IMO no need to make it more complicated than it already is.

bec	28 Dec 2002
Always is such a big word in tarot don't you think :) No I don't always read the double and the dreamer in a negative sense, really depends on the spread position, question to be answered and influences from the other cards being read. What hit me when I replied is the 3 different "outcomes" of the world, they hit you smack in the face with the 3 additional majors in shapie. One hard-core denying to learn more than they want to learn. Rather twist the truth and betray others, than actually having to follow rules. The double took the short-cut so to speak. The one really getting the full nine yard is the journey, no short-cuts, no make believes, he hanged and burned in hell as we are supposed to if we want to learn our true natures. He made it and is all eager for a new ride. The dreamer didn't make it - so I wrote and what I mean is - the dreamer have a imaginary image of the world, the way we want it to be. No wars, no disagreements, no big conventions with less than 10 heads determin milions of lives and fates everyday. The cost of this dream is a life long struggle in the real world. Positive aspects of the 3. Sure you can. I have had the double in a reading concerning a woman and her recently died husband. The double as I read it then, was that she would have to make a double of her self. One walking and talking with her husband, coming to peace and understanding with him. And another doing the groseries and other ordinary stuff, where it is not well seen that an old lady goes and talk to her dead husband. There I would say the double have a very sound and positive message to give. Our world does require the double, if we are not ready to stand out with the risk of being called a freak or fanatic, our daily lives is in need of a double, the one going to work and being formally social, and the one we can be with in our own walls. The dreamer to have a very positive aspect, of course it does. Depending on the position and such, I can easily see the beautiful woman rise from the moonlight shaded pond (covered emotions) - she would defiantly shift to the royal swan and take of, chasing after her dreams, and yes make it, even in the real world. Like H.C.Andersen's Ugly Dugling - it dont matter whether you were born in a henhouse, as long as you laid in a swan egg. Yes I know the dreamer is set up as an attention to dreams, I have yet to get that card for such in a reading though. Queen of air have been in quite many of my dream spreads tho - but that is as they say a whole new story ;-) Sounds like we should actually make a workbook for this deck ?

Trogon	29 Dec 2002
Quote: Originally posted by Alissa I've always felt a bit trapped in the stagnation of the World as a completion point. This deck really does extend the concept of the evolution of the Self. This is interesting. I think you're speaking of the "Fool's Journey" concept here? Personally, I don't generally see The World as a stagnant end. I usually feel that The Fool could be put at the end of the Majors as well as the end. In other words, he starts out at the beginning, progressing through The Magician, High Priestess, etc... eventually reaching a level of enlightenment at The World... but this then just allows him to start another journey... a new one which will culminate in a different level of consciousness. This is just what I initially learned with the Tarot and how it has continued to appear to me.

zander770	29 Dec 2002
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zander770	29 Dec 2002
Quote: [i] I also associate wands with air, and swords with fire -- which this deck does. [/b] how the heck are ya, alissa? was YOUR "z"'s xmas great? hope so! my "z"'s was (they visited ohio). i'll "mail" ya! anyway . . . i was just discusing this (your above qoute) last night! man, that would . . . that would just TOTALLY "throw me off;" it'd be like using my Left hand to "Write" with! i think i'll perform a search, after this post. do you think a "sure sign that you're Getting Older is a Resistance to New Things or "understanding"/caring much about them? a "loss of imaginition" or "creativity"? never mind. being "silly..." i've been "noticing," lately, tho, in myself, sort of, i mean (my b-day was yesterday, 39, so . . . plus, Yr's End makes me "take inventory," "stock of my life," et al), it's as if now I AM the "Traditionalist"! I AM the "One who Resists" (to "some" people), and it's True, slightly, regarding some particular things. i think--the "sword=air / wand=fire" debate, e.g.,--that THAT depends upon whichever one'd learned First and the "system" (if any) surrounding that fact. like i mentioned, the topic came up last night, and, altho i'd "heard of the debate" before i really never gave it one moment's thought. "whatever works, for you . . ." i've seen the shapeshifter deck used, "live," and it worked quite well for the reader and several querents' and both seemed to "love" and very much "enjoy" their shared "shapeshifter" experience's. i remember a lot of "laughs" and heads "nodding up and down," etc. i have read a small bit about the deck, too. i was expecting more, i guess, from the artwork (i know i know i know of the "great reviews," but, the cards seemed "pale" w/"washy" color, to me. i really thought that i'd totally relate and connect to the deck. 1) i am irish and love my culture, our myths, our artists' and, maybe most, Our Nation! totally. i'm "down". 2) i've much knowledge and experience w/native american's; their culture their myths (many "shapeshifter's," there!), spiritual practices and beliefs, their problems and their contributions, et cetera, and i was "expecting" to LOVE this deck, but . . . i did not. was it because of the Three Additional Major Keys? nope. the "sword=fire / wand=air" difference. a wee-bit more, yes, but i really think that it was just . . . o.k., i'll say it: it was the way that they "looked." they've no "boarder's," for example. that "bothers" me! it was the way in which the artwork "spoke" and "appeared," to me (or, rather, did not). sometimes, i just can't "put my finger on it," but . . . i know. that, i DO know. but, hey: i LOOOooove the "faerie ring oracle"! ~Z~770 :TTEMP

WolfSpirit	29 Dec 2002
Quote: Originally posted by bec Sounds like we should actually make a workbook for this deck ? Well I would enjoy some feedback of other users of this deck ! Sometimes I read it just intuitively, and then sometimes again it puzzles me again...but also when I have no problems with the deck, I'd love to hear other people's ideas. Do you mean to make a workbook at AT or create something on your own website ?

bec	29 Dec 2002
yea I mean here on AT as a group, and with permission posting it on my site. Could be a great sharing of experience in how we get aqainted and comfortable with this deck. Also would help us all in the study of the deck. Traditional decks got something like tarot for your self and other great mary greer books. And 78 degrees of wisdom. But there seems to be lack in workbooks for decks like the shapeshifter and other untraditional decks. what do you say ? (all of you)

Myrrha	29 Dec 2002
At first I had dismissed this deck because the artwork seemed . . . well, just not for me, but after reading these posts I am going to have to take another look. The three new majors sound very useful, although I can also see how they are aspects of other cards. I also really like animal and plant imagery. There is only one store around here that has samples of decks that you can look at, I hope they have this one. Thanks for the informative posts! Myrrha

WolfSpirit	31 Dec 2002
although I think most of us will learn from you, I haven't really studied the deck I more used intuitively and complementary to other decks as well but I think as a group we will all learn from each other and it's fun to discuss a deck you love with like-minded people... Hope there are more shapeshifter lovers/users who agree with me ?

bec	31 Dec 2002
>although I think most of us will learn from you, < no no no :P We will learn from each other. I did drag the old shapeshifter SG up in "general", but no one responds to it. Hmm I got 3 new year spreads to look at tonight :D after that I will start a thread looking at the initiative. See who chimes in :) Happy New Year all :)

violinlily	31 Dec 2002
A workbook for this deck is a great idea!!! It may help those that can't (or are having trouble) grasping it, to understand the deck better. thanks Happy New Year: Each age has deemed the new-born year The fittest time for festal cheer. - Sir Walter Scott

Alissa	02 Jan 2003
Quote: Originally posted by WolfSpirit Hope there are more shapeshifter lovers/users who agree with me ? I'm with ya Wolf Spirit! I've been on the Forum infrequently during the holidays of late, but would be looking forward to contributing to a SS deck study group once the insanity dies down and we're on our way back to normal again. What is the procedure for asking for our own Study Group in the Members area? (Theres probably a stickie on it if I would just go and check!)

bec	02 Jan 2003
I did start out, so you guys come chune in in General Study Forum when ever ready. Subject: Shapeshifter - Initiation

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