Knights = Princesses?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 08 Mar 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

ironick	08 Mar 2003
My current favorite decks to study are RW, The Renaissance, and The Goddess Tarot. In the Goddess they don't use Page, Knight, Queen and King. They use Prince, Princess, King and Queen. I like to notice the differences of meanings between decks, and also the parallels. Is the Knight usually replaced by the Princess, or is it the Page that becomes the Princess and the Knight becomes the Prince?

Diana	08 Mar 2003
I'm moving this over to the Tarot Decks forum as it will probably get more answers over there.

Ravenswing	08 Mar 2003
ironick-- for the most part, i equate the knight with the prince and the page with the princess. i think most people do it that way. raven

genna	08 Mar 2003
In Goddess Tarot and Gendron Tarot Queen is King,King is Queen,Princess is Prince/Knight,and Prince is Princess/Page.I think that most other decks have Princes an Knights,and Princesses as Pages. If you only remember this things wont get confusing after all,because Princess still represents a young woman,Prince a young man,King a man and Queen a woman,if they represent people in the querents life.

coldsuns	16 Mar 2003
Why is Page known is Princess? Can anyone explain this?

Icestorm	16 Mar 2003
Page = Immature young man with ambigious sexuality?? = most susceptible to being 'converted' to the princess card to equate the genders in the court cards, I think. (just a blind stab in the dark)

Calypso	17 Mar 2003
My deck, the Enchanted Tarot, is Prince, Princess too. I would agree with what Icestorm said and also add that the Princess is gentle and a softer card. The feminine and more emotional side to the qualities that the Prince possesses.

Richard	19 Mar 2003
Going Kabbalistically (and anything based on the Golden Dawn Tarot, including the RWS, is primarily Kabbalistic), no matter what, the court cards should fall into a Father, Mother, Son, Daughter pattern. The annoying part is that, going by the Golden Dawn attributions, the Knight is the Father, and the King is the Son (I have yet to see anyone organize them like that, though, even though Waite himself alludes to this in the Pictorial Key, in the section on choosing the significator). The Thoth and Golden Dawn decks have Knight, Queen, Prince, and Princess, so yeah...if he's on a horse (Knight), he's the father, if he's in a chariot or on a throne (Prince or King), he's the son. Pages are the same as Princesses.

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