Röhrig Prince of Cups

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 22 Mar 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Trogon	22 Mar 2003
In the thread on the Röhrig 2 of Cups (http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12377) Shower mentioned different types of love as a possible meaning for the third arm wrapped around the woman's back. This recalled to mind something which had occured to me relating to the Röhrig Prince of Cups. I have lately been studying the Röhrig Tarot in comparison to the Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot. Anyway, when I got to this card something occurred to me. In the Röhrig Prince of Cups there are many images which I relate to dreams, thoughts, experiences of a sexual nature. But the images are of both sexes. This made me think that this card, given the proper positioning in a reading, and other cards, could relate to a person becoming aware of gay or bisexual feelings. One thing that helped to clue me in to this was the write-up on the Knight of Cups (the equivelent card in the RWS deck) in "A Complete Guide to the Tarot" by Eden Gray: Quote: A stately Knight in armor, but not warlike. He wears a winged helmet, sign of the imagination and of the dual-sexed nature of Hermes. (italics are mine - Trogon) This had never really occurred to me until I combined the images on the Röhrig card with the above quote. But now I can really see this card as indicating an awakening to a new sexuality for a person. Any thoughts?

Shower	23 Mar 2003
Hi Trogon, Thanx for the welcome. I agree this prince is aware of bisexual feelings. I noticed that this is in the back of the princes mind and could then be attributed to repressed homosexual feelings, or feelings not out in the open yet. I notice the prince also has some wolf-like features? Animal desires? Even the RWS equivalent seems like he would be sexually free or open now that I think of it. I guess this was my first thought when I saw the card. Sexual freedom as opposed to forbidden desires. Shower

Trogon	30 Mar 2003
Bump up... hoping for discussion... :D

Marion	30 Mar 2003
I also not infrequently think about the possibility of homosexuality when this card shows up in readings. I remember one I did for a woman with a hubby who was a way-past-normal mama's boy. He was also very passive. Just the thought came up, I didn't share it with her. I think it can also refer to someone with a rather over-developed fantasy life, who lives more in their head than in the world. Not that I mean this is the only meaning, depends on other cards of course. The other thing points to a sort of blurring of the sexual lines. Dare I say trans-gender issues? Again, depends on other factors.

Trogon	31 Mar 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Marion I think it can also refer to someone with a rather over-developed fantasy life, who lives more in their head than in the world. Not that I mean this is the only meaning, depends on other cards of course. The other thing points to a sort of blurring of the sexual lines. Dare I say trans-gender issues? Again, depends on other factors. Yes... I definitely agree about the "over-developed fantasy life" as you put (very well put, I might add). In fact, that was the very first thing that had occured to me, and in the one reading that came up, that was how it struck me. It made me think of someone who, for whatever reasons, prefers his or her own fantasies to actually interacting with real people. The sexuality issues in this card came up later on and, as you put it, might only show up if other cards point to it. But you bring up an interesting point about discussing this with the person you were reading for. I'm a little curious about why you decided not to bring it up even though it occured to you in the reading?

Marion	31 Mar 2003
um, you are braver than me if you could tell a woman that you thought her hubby might be homosexual. :(

Trogon	04 Apr 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Marion um, you are braver than me if you could tell a woman that you thought her hubby might be homosexual. :( LOL... Very good point! This certainly would be a very delicate issue and would need to be approached very carefully! Perhaps one could ask some leading questions and see if the querrent came around to the idea herself. Then one could suggest that she might want to discuss these sexuality issues more openly with her husband. She might even have already known about this...

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