Hudes Tarot

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 02 Nov 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Tarot Sparrow	02 Nov 2003
Hi all. I was just wondering how many of you own or are familiar with the Hudes Tarot? It was my first and is currently my only deck, which I chose through Aeclectic a couple years ago, or rather, it chose me. I was wondering because I think it's a beautiful deck, and it's not one that I hear a lot of people mention very often. There's some pictures here and here if you're interested.

truthsayer	02 Nov 2003
i have the hudes deck but i don't use it often. i do think it is a great beginner's deck. the symbols aren't overwhelming and the art is good. i really should use it more often. it's one of those decks that speak so gently that you can forget that it's around when you have decks that speak louder. hhhhhhhmmmm...i may get it out again now that you've brought my transgressions to my attention! :)

Mystic Zyl	02 Nov 2003
I own a Hudes deck, however I do not use it. There is no reason not to use it except that I have other favorites. If Hudes would have been among the first four decks I purchased when I started to read I probably would be using today. The Hudes deck is a friendly deck and it in my display cabinet and from time to time I open the box and look at the deck to admire the art work. I would never trade.

zagone	02 Nov 2003
Dead_Star: Hudes is my favorite deck. It was the first deck I purchased (I now own 10+ decks) and is still my main reading deck. I looked at EVERY SINGLE deck on Aeclectic over a several day period, and this is the deck that choose me. One of my pet peeves is that this deck does not get the respect it deserves. What I strongly believe is happening is that tarot veterans are used to seeing tarot symbolism done in certain accepted ways and fail to spot that there's is LOTS of symbolism and depth in this deck because its done very differently than usual. I've seen MANY tarot veterans say its a RWS clone and move on. That in fact is how its usually described -- "a pretty RWS clone for beginners". The symbolism is subtle and is portrayed: -- Through meanings hidden in the map backgrounds -- The different take on the Magician card -- The clothing fabrics used -- each suite has an "official fabric" and you can often tell how much a person represents that suite by the amount of the fabric they wear. -- The people looking the same is not an accident. Hudes tells stories across multiple cards. Follow the faces! See earlier thread: Unusual Aspects of the Hudes Tarot http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10547 Also: http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5265 -- Zagone

Tarot Sparrow	02 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by zagone I looked at EVERY SINGLE deck on Aeclectic over a several day period, and this is the deck that choose me. That's pretty much what happened with me too. Thanks Zagone, I agree with you completely.

Diana	02 Nov 2003
Dead Star: I don't read with Rider Waite type decks anymore. But when I used to, this deck to me was just perfect. I loved it and I found it extremely intelligent. It has a lot of hidden stuff in it - and all the details on it are important and useful. A beautiful deck which I will never trade. Perhaps once I'll even take it out again and use it. :) Cherish it - it's a wonderful Tarot deck.

Astraea	02 Nov 2003
I agree, this is a wonderful deck. The apparent simplicity of the deck's imagery is actually a function of refined focus; the Hudes reads well on many, many levels.

Tarot Sparrow	02 Nov 2003
Finally, some recognition :> Well perhaps it won't be openly recognized or fully appreciated by most tarot readers in general, but I suppose I can take pride in the fact that I see more in it than they do.

zagone	03 Nov 2003
Thanks all. Okay, I pound the table a bit too much on this topic! -- Zagone

Nevada	03 Nov 2003
I don't own the Hudes, but I've looked at the images online many times and thought how beautifully simple they are. And yet there's a depth to this simplicity, nothing even remotely cartoonish. It appears there's more going on than first meets the eye. It looks like a good deck for stretching the intuitive muscles. Nevada34

Tarot Sparrow	03 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Nevada34 I don't own the Hudes, but I've looked at the images online many times and thought how beautifully simple they are. And yet there's a depth to this simplicity, nothing even remotely cartoonish. It appears there's more going on than first meets the eye. It looks like a good deck for stretching the intuitive muscles. I agree, when I first saw it, it looked easy enough to learn with but there was something special about it. By the way, I'm still not sure I know how to pronounce 'Hudes' correctly!

catlin	03 Nov 2003
I have the Hudes and I use it frequently for readings again. I had a kind of Hudes break from Summer 2001 - fall 2003 but now I have digged it out again and have it even added to my querent reading decks.

Diana	03 Nov 2003
Hudes is not pronounced like "food", or "mood", or even like "crude". It's more like "Hiudes" (without stressing the "i". It's easy for an British-English person, but it's hard to explain to a North American, 'cos you pronounce things all funny. :laugh:

Sulis	03 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by zagone -- -- The different take on the Magician card I'm curious now, what's this different take on the Magician? Love and light Sulis xx

Bean Feasa	03 Nov 2003
The Hudes deck has been on my wish list for a while now and this thread has made up my mind for me. There's some synchronicity operating here too, because on Friday night a Tarot reader character appeared in my favourite soap opera (Coronation Street - it's an English production) and she was using the Hudes deck. It looked beautiful. So all the signs are telling me to go for it. (Oh, any excuse at all!) Now where's that little, much-swiped flexible friend of mine??!!!

Bean Feasa	03 Nov 2003
P.S. I agree with Sulis though - I'd love to know what the different take on the magician is. (Btw Sulis, thanks a million for the pointer towards the article on World Spirit that you gave in your reply to my introductory post - I really enjoyed it and it cleared up a few details I was puzzled about.) Bright blessings, Kate

Tarot Sparrow	03 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Diana Hudes is not pronounced like "food", or "mood", or even like "crude". It's more like "Hiudes" (without stressing the "i". It's easy for an British-English person, but it's hard to explain to a North American, 'cos you pronounce things all funny. :laugh: Gee, thanks! Well I think I get what you mean, though. Besides, I can imitate a good British accent! :) By the way, I haven't looked at the little accompanying book in so long, I can't remember what this "different take on the Magician" is either. I'm too lazy to go look :>

lark	03 Nov 2003
Here's the LWB definition: The magician sits at his worktable surrounded by tools and plans. Before him is a book of alchemy symbols. The four suits of the tarot are represented-the knife and goblet suggest the sword and cups suite, while the astronomical model and compass allude to the wand and pentacle suits. The symbol of infinity floats above the magicians head. The book that goes with the deck says (and by the way if you're buying the deck get the book. It's very good at explaining the symbolizm.) Anyway the book explanation is a lot longer but here's one part I found Interesting and a new twist on the magician. The Magician doesn't concern himself with wafty, metaphysical or spiritual concepts. The world that interests him is the world he can see and study. Theory is only relevant as something to use as the basis for an experiment of some sort. The character of Mr. Spock from Star Trek is an appropriate analogy for the Magicians logical approach to life. He is not interested in the emotions or intuition of cups. he studies them like a psychiatrist or a medical doctor might, perhaps to assess the role of emotions in health. He is a problem solver who thinks and examines, and based on his rational analysis, arrives at a fresh solution. he invents new gadgets to help him get things done. The magician needs to take care not to place too much emphasis on intellect, or he risks developing a narrow view of what it means to be human - not taking into account the artistic side of life, nor valuing intuition and emotions. So the upright meaning is: intellectual activity, rational analysis, logic, inventiveness. Reversed: Obsession with rational thought, inabitity to integrate intellect with other faculties. What do you guys think? How does this differ from how you look at the Magician? Or does it mix in well with your understanding?

Cocobird55	03 Nov 2003
This is one of my favorite decks. The death card is my all-time favorite death card -- a butterfly coming out of a skeleton. Sue

Astraea	03 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Cocobird55 The death card is my all-time favorite death card -- a butterfly coming out of a skeleton. Me, too! That card says it all, in my estimation.

Tarot Sparrow	03 Nov 2003
Also love the death card. I looked up the butterfly symbolization and found that butterflies are often associated with death. Such as: "The Celts believed that seeing a butterfly flying at night meant death. The chrysalis or pupal stage symbolizes death in Christian art." Etc. It's interesting to me.

Bean Feasa	04 Nov 2003
Just ordered it from Amazon - book and deck set. Tra-la-la! Btw, it's all your fault Dead Star, and that's what I'm tellin' the bank manager! :D, Kate

SongDeva	04 Nov 2003
I just traded on Aeclectic for this deck. Sent off a winged spirit (had a dupe) and my Hudes arrived *yesterday*. For me too it's one that always spoke to me online. I love the death card to. It's lovely. I just want to gaze at it. LOL In fact, I think a large majority of the cards will be great for meditation. Has anyone tried this? I'm gonna get my own meanings down before I buy the book. I just love it. I think its soft and very deep. Each card has more to it than its detractor's seem to think. *shrug* I just wanted to wax poetic for a moment. Also, Nevada34 made the comment that it's a good deck for stretching the intuitive muscles. I read only intuitively (only looking for meanings when stuck), and this is the way this deck speaks to me, and asks me to read it. I really think it wants to be used for meditation too. Love it!

Tarot Sparrow	04 Nov 2003
Yay! They like my deck :> I think I'll play with it later.

Emily	04 Nov 2003
Hi all, Hi Bean Feasa, I watched Coronation Street too and have been trying to figure out which deck she was using lol - I haven't seen this deck before so thanks for posting. :)

zagone	04 Nov 2003
Wow -- A soap opera used this? Soaps must have some depth in the UK! ;-) SongDiva: I'm your exact opposite (although I respect the way you read). I analyze everything to death first and always read the accompanying book cover to cover before using a deck. Hudes works very, very well for this analytical approach also! Sulis, Bean, Lark, & All: The following is what I'd previously put up about the Magician on an older Hudes thread. your mileage may vary: *THE MAGICIAN* "At first I hated this card. I liked the high-energy magical feeling usually shown in Waite-inspired decks. The Huges magician is a tinkerer -- thinkiing logically at a desk, building mechanisms, measuring stuff. " "I still prefer a more magical feel, but I've gained a lot of respect for this card as I've studied it. According to Samul he stands for "intellectual activity. Rational analysis. Logic. Inventiveness." "Emphasizing these aspects of the magician character makes him a much better opposite and counterpart to the High Priestess and Empress energies. They are where the magic and emotions are, as well as the mysteries and intuition and nurturing." "But its really clever how the magical energy flow evident in Waite and the tools have been worked in. The broader meanings of the magician are still there if you look hard. Instead of having his right hand raised to the sky with a wand in hand, he in wearing a pointy hat (the only one in the deck) rather like a witches' hat. Witches' hats have been linked with the idea of raising "cones of power" -- so in fact he is drawing energy through his head rather than his right arm, leaving both hands free to work. Right where the raised wand would be held in the Waite card, the Hudes background map happens to show a gadget that looks much like the wand, again implying the energy flow is active. The Waite magician points to the ground with his left hand grounding the energy. The Hudes magician holds a globe-like contraption thereby grounding the energy, funneling it into his work, and at the same time taking the measure of the world with the protractor (wand) in his other hand!" "Hudes manages to work in the cup, sword, book, etc. just to have them there for form's sake. There's even a lone flower in the cup to give the card at least some nature connection." Freesiaskye said: "This deck has my favourite Magician in it." "I find some of the Magician cards focus too much on the trickster aspect of the archetype. The one in the World Spirit deck is like that and I don't like it, it reduces the majestic flavour of the Magus. So, I like the Hudes for precisely its scientific bent, he is measuring the world, quietly, intuitively and he expects you to settle down and get some work done! Doesn't he look unapproachable though? Is he trustworthy, is he a trickster? Maybe, he's not your pal, he doesn't do parlour tricks, he's a Magician, and he wants you to go out in the world and use your gifts. Hard to explain, he reminds me of an inventor working away unacknowledged and unconcerned with your opinion. "Be serious," he's thinking, I've got work to do, and so should you." Glad this deck is more popular than I had thought. -- Zagone

Tarot Sparrow	04 Nov 2003
I agree with that, I was surprised somewhat when I read a thread on the Magician a while ago and everyone referred to him as a straight-out trickster. That may be an aspect of his essence, but it's not the only one. I believe him to be a very powerful creator, with the smarts and the tools to accomplish just about anything.

Bean Feasa	05 Nov 2003
Hi everyone, Zagone, thanks for posting on the magician - can't wait for the deck to arrive so I can start poring over the cards. Sometimes the anticipation's the best part, innit? Emily, I'm delighted to hear someone else saw Corrie - I was beginning to wonder if I was hallucinating! Death came up in Shelley's reading, and I recognised distinctive butterfly/skeleton design that people have been talking about in this thread. The third card was the Queen of Pentacles, the reader held it up and told Shelley she would emerge from all the pain strong like this Queen. I think the Eight of Swords was the first card in Steve McDonnell's reading - that's how she knew he'd been in prison. Nearly put my head through the telly trying to see the other cards but didn't manage. Hubby was chortling on the sofa - he thinks I've finally lost it. But I think I've finally found it!

Sulis	05 Nov 2003
Quote: Originally posted by Bean Feasa But I think I've finally found it! *LOL* You've definately found it. Love and light Sulis xx

Emily	05 Nov 2003
Hi Bean Feasa, I was the same, when she was shuffling them and you couldn't see the deck - I was muttering without realising 'show the deck', my hubby thought I'd gone made - I expected it to be the Rider Waite but it wasn't and I didn't recognise the deck - it does look very nice and is now added to my Christmas wishlist :)

Tarot Sparrow	05 Nov 2003
Silly soap operas. Actually there's this psychic lady on MY favourite soap who keeps doing tarot readings and getting the Death card a million times because people keep getting murdered. Hmm I wonder which deck she's using...

Bean Feasa	24 Nov 2003
Hi Dead Star and other Hudes enthusiasts. Just wanted to tell you all that I'm happy :D, but out of breath (no emoticon for that!) 'cos I've just been up to the parcel office at lunchtime to collect my Hudes deck (pet peeve :mad: Amazon pack everything up in big fat parcels that won't go through my letterbox, then I have to traipse to the delivery office which doesn't open at evenings or weekends and is pretty awkward to get to from where I work!) Anyway, having got that little rant off my chest let me say that it's been well worth both the wait and the struggle to collect it. What a gorgeous deck! Only had time for a quick shuffle and gaze, but I know I'm going to love working with it. Looking through discussion threads and reviews, I see that its reflective qualities have been criticised by some people as being too static, but I could feel my intuition and imagination stir when I looked at the images. I like the clearness too, I think too many symbols can clutter a card. One of the reviews I read mentioned it had the feel of a wintry landscape, and I think that's true, and it seems to suit the fact that it's arrived at this time of the year. Zagone, I do see what you mean about the specialness of the Magician, and thanks for all your posts on the other main Hudes thread - 'some unusual aspects of the Hudes deck'; they're really interesting. Working late tonight, but can't wait to get home, sit by the fire and browse the book and deck! Blessings, and happy Tarot adventures to you all, Kate. Edited to add that my only disappointment was that the cardstock seems very light, and so the cards are a little bit 'bendy'. Oh well, can't have everything in this life. :)

zagone	02 Dec 2003
Kate -- Thank you very much! I appreciate it. -- Zagone

Moonbow*	02 Dec 2003
Hi all, This deck is on my xmas list (along with lots of others). I've just read this thread and I'm sooo glad I put it on the list. When I've got it 'I'll be back'....... maybe we can discuss it some more???? By the way I'm not a Corry fan but that may have to change now! Moonbow* :) :cool:

Moonbow*	06 Mar 2004
As I said in my last post, this deck was on my xmas list and my son bought it for me. At the time I had far too many to work with so I did nothing with it apart from look at the cards quickly. When I went to Brugge last month I took this deck with me hoping that without the distraction of all my other decks, I would finally get to grips with it. Boy, was I disappointed - I looked and looked and found too many miserable looking people in the cards - it just did nothing for me. Now this makes me very sad because I really thought I would love this deck and I was well aware of other people's first impressions of the deck so I tried very hard not to let that influence me, but the more I looked, the more I thought 'why oh why did she leave out so much symbolism'. Before I put anyone off this deck, let me say I have just been reading everything (again) that I can on these boards and my opinion is definately turning - this has been much helped by Zagone's findings and obvious enthusiam for the deck. Rather than see the cards as sad depictations I now see that they are very deep cards. I really need to spend alot of time on them without any distractions but it is clear that these are emotional cards which say far more then they first appear to. I'm interested to know how Dead Star and Bean Feasa are getting on with their decks and of course anyone else who would like to have a say about them. I will post a bit more after I've had a little play! Moonbow*

Kissa	06 Mar 2004
gorgeous deck, deep and sensitive artwork. beautiful death card, beautiful star. i don't read with it though. never even tried. there is something nostalgic and sad, a coldness, a distance in this deck... i don't feel like "jumping" in the images. the opposite of the tarot of prague, where i am wandering in the streets like a curious child... just my opinion. considering the quality of Hude's work, i can understand why some here use it and love it. just not for me. kissa

Diana	06 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* I looked and looked and found too many miserable looking people in the cards - it just did nothing for me. Oh no! They're not miserable. A little nostalgic perhaps, and melancholic. Melancholy is a beautiful word.

Tarot Sparrow	06 Mar 2004
It's nice to see that my thread is alive again :) Quote: Edited to add that my only disappointment was that the cardstock seems very light, and so the cards are a little bit 'bendy'. Really? I've never noticed anything wrong with the cardstock. You people must be spoiled with your super-thick cards :D I clicked with my deck right away, and I never thought the people on the cards were depressing or miserable. I found them to look very meditative and mysterious, but not in a bad way. I've been collecting several beautiful decks these past few months, but the Hudes still holds a special place in my heart. I will always love it, it's great to read with and very beautiful. I don't think anyone's mentioned this, but I also think it has one of the nicest and most interesting card backs I've ever seen...

BlueLotus	06 Mar 2004
I own this lovely deck and on most days I 'connect' very well with it. The card stock as mentioned, although rather thin does not deter from shuffling and handling the cards well. I get insightful readings with this deck; however, I am not very enthusiastic about the large white border that frames the cards. The book that comes with the cards is quite a good read, but may not always convey the exact meanings the creator of these cards intended to say, I think....! I feel there is a discrepancy at times between it and the 'real' meanings of the card. The author of the book, gives some 'very different and/or personal interpretations' of the cards, which may deviate from the real meanings. But I like the affirmations and the prayers that follow the interpretations of each card. One reason I know this deck will always be one of my favorites is that it is not flashy or trendy, and follows the traditonal RWS theme.

Cerulean	06 Mar 2004
http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/wisdom-in-the-cards/ I had the book and two decks at one point, then passed it on. Lovely deck designs, good book that I waited a year or so for. I think the patterns and the art seem very reflective and calm. Just after six months, I didn't take to it. I compared it with the Osho Zen and Roots of Asia by then and of the three, I wanted the Roots of Asia as a quiet meditational deck. I passed my Hudes and Osho Zen on...I see that for meditational and healing thoughts, I like both the Buddha Tarot and Roots of Asia for what they seem to reflect and what I want to learn from a quieter art deck. Mari H.

Moonbow*	07 Mar 2004
Oh Mari, I wish you wouldn't keep mentioning the Buddha deck. I like it so much but I have 4 decks on their way already! I feel very connected to decks based on Buddism and this is such a colourful deck - one day! Back to the Hudes - I haven't noticed that the card stock in mine is thin, it shuffles very well. I had thought about the book but what stops me getting it is the author's own opinions. I can do that myself! I just need to spend alot of time getting freindly with this deck. Moonbow*

Moonbow*	07 Mar 2004
Having just done the 'names' spread of lunalafey's and found the deck speaking to me loud and clear ....... yay!!!!! :cool: ......one of the cards that came up was the World - which reminded me of something I wanted to say in this thread. I don't get it! I have tried my hardest, but the hands are not a pair. They are both the right hand - and I don't get it, it means nothing to me - except the leaves do form a kind of laural wreath - kind of!! M*

Diana	07 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* I don't get it! I have tried my hardest, but the hands are not a pair. They are both the right hand - and I don't get it, it means nothing to me - except the leaves do form a kind of laural wreath - kind of!! It's two people joining their hands. You can see it, they are not the same shape. About the leaves. They don't look like laurel leaves to me. I'm not certain they are a leaf of any kind though.

Moonbow*	07 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Diana It's two people joining their hands. You can see it, they are not the same shape. You mean, like in an arm wrestle!!! haha :confused: I need to think about this a bit more! M*

Tarot Sparrow	07 Mar 2004
Ah, I love the world card! :D If you look closely, you will realize that one hand belongs to a man and the other to a woman. Think of it as two opposites coming together, two halves making a whole. It's like a symbol of completion, which is the essence of the World card. At least that's the way I see it. Oh, and again, I don't think the cardstock is thin at all! It's wonderful. Unless some people are used to really thick cards...my thickest cardstock is the Celtic Dragon Tarot and I find it difficult to shuffle because it's too stiff...I think the Hudes is just right.

BlueLotus	07 Mar 2004
I quote: "Oh, and again, I don't think the cardstock is thin at all! It's wonderful. Unless some people are used to really thick cards...my thickest cardstock is the Celtic Dragon Tarot and I find it difficult to shuffle because it's too stiff...I think the Hudes is just right" I re-checked the cardstock , and you are right about it being just right. It is just that I noticed the whole deck/cards were rather bent when I got them out of the box. My favorite cards are : The chariot, eight of pentacles, ten of cups, the sun, the moon, the hermit, three of wands, nine of pentacles, strength, the tower, the magician, the star, eight of cups, temperance- oh, if I can list them all . I think the 'world card' joins two different hands for two different people, as someone mentioned above. Sharp observasion.

Bean Feasa	08 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* I'm interested to know how Dead Star and Bean Feasa are getting on with their decks and of course anyone else who would like to have a say about them. I will post a bit more after I've had a little play! Hi Moonbow, I loved this deck on first sight, and 'played' with it a lot, but I have to confess that somehow it's got relegated to the bookshelf, and other decks have taken precedence. I still think it's a really beautiful deck, I don't mind at all that people's expressions are pensive etc., but for some reason it didn't 'take off' as a reading deck for me. Maybe this had something to do with the fact that the first reading I did with it, which I posted it to a friend, with photocopies of the cards, didn't get very much feedback. I think that might be at the root of my slight feeling of alienation from the deck. I do like the look of the book and I tell myself now and again that when I get time to read the book properly, then I'll use the deck more. We'll see. blessings from a fickle-hearted Bean Feasa :) Kate

Sulis	08 Mar 2004
I haven't bought a new tarot deck since October!!! Can you believe it. I haven't wanted a new deck - I've been quite happy working with the ones I've got - mainly my Morgan Greer which seems to have turned into my only tarot deck; the only one I've really bothered with anyway. I have a yearning for the Motherpeace Tarot but it's one of those yearnings which I have no real urgency for :) Since the resurrection of this thread though I've become totally obsessed with the Hudes deck. I HAVE TO HAVE IT. I love the fact that it seems quite melancholy, I love the use of maps and patterns in the cards, I love the gentle colours. I now have a tarot wishlist again :) and I have you lot to blame :D Love and light sulis xx

Bean Feasa	08 Mar 2004
Yay, Sulis - such self-control! And for so long! Applause!! But now you'll just have to reward yourself for being so good! }) Seriously though, despite my own fickleness, I would recommend the Hudes. It's a lovely deep deck, I think you'll enjoy it. blessings, Kate

Tarot Sparrow	08 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Sulis I haven't bought a new tarot deck since October!!! Can you believe it. I haven't wanted a new deck - I've been quite happy working with the ones I've got - mainly my Morgan Greer which seems to have turned into my only tarot deck; the only one I've really bothered with anyway. I have a yearning for the Motherpeace Tarot but it's one of those yearnings which I have no real urgency for :) Since the resurrection of this thread though I've become totally obsessed with the Hudes deck. I HAVE TO HAVE IT. I love the fact that it seems quite melancholy, I love the use of maps and patterns in the cards, I love the gentle colours. I now have a tarot wishlist again :) and I have you lot to blame :D Love and light sulis xx Yay Sulis! I'm sure you'll enjoy it if it sparks your interest that much. The cards are just beautiful, especially the majors. I love the Star :)

Moonbow*	08 Mar 2004
...... I Love this deck....... I know..... I know..... I took a bit of persuading but I have just done my first reading with it and all 5 cards spoke to me loud and clear. Isn't Temperance such a great card? The way she looks into the pool of water at her reflection is just genius. I was a little worried about the expressions on the faces of the people - they seemed so similar and as someone said - pensive, but I just pulled the King of Wands and he spoke to me so clearly, I knew just what I was going to say - yay! Moonbow* Thanks everyone you have all helped me to look alot closer at the cards.

Tarot Sparrow	08 Mar 2004
That's great, Moonbow. I agree with you, it's such an expressive deck. I don't find it to be aggressive at all but somehow it just speaks so loud and clear when you look at the cards. It's almost effortless. It's like those melancholy people all start talking or shooting you glances or something, haha...

Bean Feasa	09 Mar 2004
The Star is my favourite Star of all my decks, and of any I've seen scanned online. The woman seems so serene, immersed in the waters of the spirit. It's really special, IMHO Glad you're enjoying the deck, Moonbow!

bangbang	09 Mar 2004
I also love this deck.

Sulis	11 Mar 2004
Well I got it and all I can say is WOW! Why have I never taken any notice of this deck before? I love the maps - they offer such small details - I've only flicked through the cards but already I've noticed that the king of Cups has the word 'unknown' floating in his cup :) The people don't seem miserable - I think 'pensive' is the word to describe most of them although the bloke in the 9 of Cups definately has a twinkle in his eye. I feel as though this will be the yin to my Morgan Greer's yang. I'm off to play with the only tarot deck I've bought for almost 5 months Love and light Sulis xx

Tarot Sparrow	11 Mar 2004
Glad you're happy with it Sulis. Check out the High Priestess...she has things written all over her clothes...I managed to make out only some of the words though :)

Lee	11 Mar 2004
An interesting feature on the HP... her clothes have words but her book's pages are blank... -- Lee

BlueLotus	11 Mar 2004
Since this thread started, I have been drawing a card-a-day from this deck. Today I got the Strength card, and I like the genuine concerned expression on this maiden's face, and her fiery colored long hair, which matches the color of the lion's skin and fur . She looks so concerned as she opens the lion's mouth, gently, but firmly. I think that her green dress is the loveliest shade of green. In the accompanying book, the birds hovering above making the infinity sign, denote the infinite number of possibbilites of love one can apply, least of which are force and manipulation. I found this sign's interpretation quite interesting . http://www.learntarot.com/humaj08.gif

Tarot Sparrow	12 Mar 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Lee An interesting feature on the HP... her clothes have words but her book's pages are blank... -- Lee Ah yes, I remember myself mentioning that in a group study :)

Tarot Sparrow	22 Mar 2004
Just wanted to mention, if anyone's interested-- The Hudes Tarot is on sale at Tarot Garden for $18 for a limited time only...*hint* :D The Tarot Garden, Just search for it in the deck search. I would have mentioned it earlier except it was out of stock and being reordered when I first noticed. I was actually glad to see that though :)

Black*Cat	02 Apr 2004
Hi everyone (love the thread Dead Star, & zagone's earlier ones), I've just received my Hudes - & I'm totally in love!! Like many people at first I thought the faces were a bit 'wooden', but the more I look into them the more I see - they're not at all expressionless, it's just very subtle. Death is just sensational (I showed it to my partner earlier while he was doing the dishes & he nearly had a heart attack ), but I think my favourite card is Temperance - the reflection in the pool just epitomises the whole reflective nature of the deck for me - beautiful. I've been doing Shesawolf's daily reading to get to know them a bit & I'm finding it really helpful: www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23702 One thing that intrigues me are the faces in The Hanged Man's tree - anyone got any ideas to help me understand them a bit better? Go Hudes! Black*Cat

Sulis	02 Apr 2004
HI Black*Cat, I recently got this deck too and love it. I'm waiting for one of CJ Tarot's tarot cloths to arrive to keep it in :) Dead Star started a thread about the Hudes Hanged Man a while ago. Here's a link Love and light Sulis xx

Black*Cat	02 Apr 2004
Thanks Sulis, That link was really interesting - what a great resource this place is for furthering understanding. I don't need to re-invent the wheel here, because someone is bound to have already done it. It was also lovely to see Dead Star's first post (a hold the nose & jump one at that), since I am at the beginning of finding my way around here........ There seems to be a long history here of supporting those of us just starting out with the Tarot - what a great place. Black*Cat

Tarot Sparrow	02 Apr 2004
Yay, my first post! :D Thanks for posting that Sulis, I remembered asking about the faces before. Hope it was helpful Black*Cat. I also love the Death card, and the Star. Oh, all of them! I clicked with my deck right away.

Indigo Rose	02 Apr 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Moonbow* Boy, was I disappointed - I looked and looked and found too many miserable looking people in the cards - it just did nothing for me. Now this makes me very sad because I really thought I would love this deck and I was well aware of other people's first impressions of the deck so I tried very hard not to let that influence me......Moonbow* I got this deck over a year ago and thought I would love it too; and actually I do LOVE the majors. However, I too was very disappointed by the depressive faces in the minors. The deck made me feel so sad and I found I could not read with it. I kept it for about 6 months, but finally decided I just couldn't use it. However, my mother loved it and was not bothered by it so I gave the deck to her.

contrascarpe	07 Apr 2004
I had one of those "Eureka" moments today. I purchased this deck a few weeks ago on a whim. I had seen a few cards during one of our local Tarot Circle gatherings (thanks to a reading SongDeva had done). I had gone back and forth on this one and saw it in the methaphysical shop here in my town for 15 bucks so I went for it. Honestly - I was less than thrilled with it until today. I never really looked at it, or I was never in the right frame of mind. But suddenly today, BAM, a few cards really hit me! The first one that comes to mind is the Hanged Man which was brought up in this thread. Those faces looking at him can mean so many things! It is a remarkable card. Also I was drawn to the Five of Swords for some reason. So different from the standard RWS depiction. Looks like I am going to have to spend some quality time with my Hudes, hehe. Dan

Tarot Sparrow	07 Apr 2004
Good to hear you're starting to like it, contrascarpe :D It's odd, I've actually never even NOTICED that the people look sad! And they don't really, to me. It was my first deck, so that might have something to do with it, but I loved the cards I saw online and that's why I got it, and I loved it as soon as I did. I guess because I was already a sad person back then? :D

JosephMartin	08 Apr 2004
Leah, who wrote the wonderful book to the Hudes Tarot, has been recovering from being quite sick. I know she would love to hear from anyone who would like to wish her well. She is a truly loving and caring woman and friend. You have probably already seen her many posts on different Tarot threads and boards. You can email her at: leahsamul@speakeasy.net yours in the cards, Joseph

Cerulean	22 Jul 2004
I ran across this link from Durer fan that suggests the Hudes' maps and beautiful art has a similar "Durer" feel http://www.bemyastrologer.com/albrecht_durer_magic_square.html Zagone's original thread a year or so ago that includes a link to all images of the deck http://www.tarotforum.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=10547&highlight=hudes+tarot Hope this revives your interest! Regards, Cerulean Mari

Jewel-ry	23 Jul 2004
Thats an interesting site Mari, Did you notice that Durer's first self portrait looks uncannily like the Magician in the Hudes deck? :)

Cerulean	23 Jul 2004
and seems the maps to the Hudes does lead one to other undiscovered countries! I should post to Zagone's old thread as well, as that post does discuss some unusual aspects--I don't remember if someone else posted this link. Regards, Cerulean Mari

Moonbow*	23 Jul 2004
Marie I read up on Zagone's old thread ages ago.... it's a MUST for all Hudes fans.

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