Inana's list
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 15 Dec 2003, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| Diana |
15 Dec 2003 |
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Good lord! This is going to give a lot of us sleepless nights.
A thousand thousand thank yous to everyone who participated.
Inana, you will go down in Tarot history! (Huck, so will you.)
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| Jewel-ry |
15 Dec 2003 |
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Amazing!!
Thank-you
J :)
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| lark |
15 Dec 2003 |
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I just added them to my favorites Inana and Huck...
I've already spent many happy hours looking through the sites.
With many more to come.
A million blessings showered down on your heads.
It's a tarotholics dream. Thank you!
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| Le_Corsair |
15 Dec 2003 |
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Great Job! Excelsior!
Bob :THERM
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| Huck |
16 Dec 2003 |
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Nice,
somebody enjoys the work of a sleepless night ... :-)
http://trionfi.com/01/j/i ... :-)
There are some more links to the very old decks, gathered at
http://trionfi.com/01/j
The card to the right is the Muse of History ... :-), Klio
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| Rusty Neon |
16 Dec 2003 |
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Huck ... While I'm sure you have no commercial intentions for the Aeclectic Contributors' list of links and annotations, I suggest obtaining permission from each individual contributor before posting the individual contributor entries (links and especially explanatory/editorial annotations written by the contributor and now on your site, essentially word for word) onto your site. For example, I had taken considerable time to assemble and edit my contributions which were intended to stay on the Aeclectic Tarot forum only. When I post something on Aeclectic Tarot, I retain the copyright and I don't expect to see those words reproduced elsewhere. Will our posts to discussion threads also be reproduced on people's websites next?
I'm also concerned that, now that the links are public, the websites housing the card scans (especially websites to which links are back door links) might close them to access. As a private list on our forum, this list of links and annotations was more secure; good for our private studies by consulting the Forum thread that contains our List of links and annotations.
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| Huck |
16 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by Rusty Neon
Huck ... While I'm sure you have no commercial intentions for the Aeclectic Contributors' list of links and annotations, I suggest obtaining permission from each individual contributor before posting the individual contributor entries (links and especially explanatory/editorial annotations written by the contributor and now on your site, essentially word for word) onto your site. For example, I had taken considerable time to assemble and edit my contributions which were intended to stay on the Aeclectic Tarot forum only. When I post something on Aeclectic Tarot, I retain the copyright and I don't expect to see those words reproduced elsewhere. Will our posts to discussion threads also be reproduced on people's websites next?
I'm also concerned that, now that the links are public, the websites housing the card scans (especially websites to which links are back door links) might close them to access. As a private list on our forum, this list of links and annotations was more secure; good for our private studies by consulting the Forum thread that contains our List of links and annotations.
Hy Rusty,
hm. I was not aware that it are closed mysteries. Recently I found a post of mine to a Forum here in a search engine, so I do not live with that idea.
But if you see any link which is risky in any way, copyrighted, for instance, tell me and I throw it out of the list, no problem. I could also extrude the written notes, if necessary, if anybody thinks, that it are his private, personal notes.
The list is momentary not available in the net. I send you the code, Rusty, so you can make your corrections, if you don't mind. Anybody interested to view the decks still can use the still existing thread in the moment.
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| Rusty Neon |
16 Dec 2003 |
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The onus should be you to get our consent rather than us having to contact you to tell you which written notes to cut out.
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| fairyhedgehog |
16 Dec 2003 |
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It might be as well to check with the other people who contributed if they didn't know their stuff was going to be published like this.
I know stuff gets copied a lot on the net but it's usually a good idea to get consent from people first.
I'm looking forward to seeing the list when it's back up again :)
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| Diana |
16 Dec 2003 |
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:( It's gone. Hope it's very very very temporary. Just when I was planning to have a sleepless night.
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| Le_Corsair |
16 Dec 2003 |
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You would have liked the links about Marseilles decks, Diana!
Bob :THERM
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| Diana |
16 Dec 2003 |
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Rusty Neon: Thank you so much. I missed that thread - the Tarot decks section is not one I visit very often. (Funny, no-one seems surprised to hear that :D ).
I am so impressed.
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| Huck |
16 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by Rusty Neon
The onus should be you to get our consent rather than us having to contact you to tell you which written notes to cut out.
:-)
Well, I talked to Inana, and I perceived her as the collector of the list. She was surprized and enjoyed. So I did it. It was work, it doesn't happen from one moment to the other. Now a lot of people can have their fun with it.
If I had perceived, that I with this intention would had to ask a for me uncalculatable number of persons, I wouldn't have done it. I work effectively ... and I do that with others together in the same spirit otherwise that here
http://trionfi.com/01/NoFrame2.html
wouldn't exist, and perhaps you can perceive, that this is more than a few links.
In the past I've often given in the web somebody a link, a hint, an advice, a long article, some more links, some more advices, some more long articles, now I give pages with lots of links, lots of advices and lots of long articles.
Now you desire, that I should've followed a special moral in a very specific matter, in which the real object is perhaps 10 lines of text.
You can have the text back, I already offered it. I draw the lines out. Your special moral should be satisfied with it.
My personal special moral is formed by the golden opportunities, that the net, the computer, the technology gives to the humans, that they can explode in their knowledge by sharing information, by learning about search engines, by knowing much more details about any subject of their explorations, by communicating in seconds via great distances.
And this special process happens with giving and taking without too much thinking about who did give and who did take .... otherwise the process would lose some of its effectiveness.
From this my experiences I can't follow too much the laws of the other moral aspects ...
:-)
When you do think, that you've a special mental property in these 10 lines text, just say, which ... part of the text I should change?
And if somebody else also desires to have something back, no problem.
The text is signed "collected by members of Aeclectic, composed by Inana and Huck" with a link to Aelectic. So you're explicitely marked as author, and the group will profit from it. I called it "Inana's list", cause I think it is a nice name and also Inana just had the idea to gather them.
If I must add a long list of contributors, I think, vanity had the win over the real idea of the net and I better forget such projects.
Well, if you desire, I take the "Huck" away. Are you content then?
My name is below enough documents, no problem.
Or I add a sentence: "Anybody can copy the page for any wish he desires". Good? Then it is clear, it is for the net.
Now I've written perhaps 50 lines about this 10 lines. I can't think, that it's very effective. In that time I could've made another small page.
But perhaps it was good for something.
Let's laugh about it ... we must jump a little bit of our heads to understand the humour of the universe :-)
Now say, what you want, that I can open the door again.
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| Diana |
17 Dec 2003 |
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Originally posted by Huck
My personal special moral is formed by the golden opportunities, that the net, the computer, the technology gives to the humans, that they can explode in their knowledge by sharing information, by learning about search engines, by knowing much more details about any subject of their explorations, by communicating in seconds via great distances.
And this special process happens with giving and taking without too much thinking about who did give and who did take .... otherwise the process would lose some of its effectiveness.
There may be undercurrrents I am not aware of, so I am keeping this in mind while I write this.
But I do want to give my absolute support to the above paragraph of Huck's. The nature of intellectual property rights have changed so much since the coming of the internet. Suddenly information is not only the privilege of the elite of the world. It is the legacy of the 20th Century given to us in the 21st.
No-one can protect their words on the internet. It is an impossible dream. They can be translated, twisted, mutilated or copied exactly..... try and follow them around the globe and you will die of exhaustion.
Our ethics on copyrights and intellectual property have not yet adapted to the Age of the Internet. It is time they did.
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The Inana's list thread was originally posted on 15 Dec 2003 in the Tarot Decks board, and is now archived in the Forum Library. Read the active threads in Tarot Decks, or read more archived threads.
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