Harry Potter Tarot Deck?
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 20 Apr 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| sagitarian |
20 Apr 2004 |
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Harry Potter Tarot Deck?
Ok, what can i say, I'm a GEEK, I LOVE Harry Potter, and would love to get this deck! I heard a rumor a while ago, that "they" were making a Harry Potter Tarot Deck, and even had a few example cards done so far, but this was a while ago, and i can't find anything like it. So i thought to place this thread here to see if anyone else has ran across this, and if anyone would have a site that i could buy this deck from?
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| dolphinprincess |
20 Apr 2004 |
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Oh, I could only hope!!!
I would LOVE a harry potter deck...
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| spoonbender |
20 Apr 2004 |
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I found this link on the Tarotpassages-website.
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| HudsonGray |
20 Apr 2004 |
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By rights, though, wouldn't it almost have to wait till the book series is done? They keep changing the story along as it develops, new people come in & everything shifts (compare book 4 with book 1). To do up a deck right, maybe they're waiting till book #8 is done.
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| sagitarian |
20 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by HudsonGray
By rights, though, wouldn't it almost have to wait till the book series is done? They keep changing the story along as it develops, new people come in & everything shifts (compare book 4 with book 1). To do up a deck right, maybe they're waiting till book #8 is done.
Very true, very true! Didn't think about it like that.
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| Kirali |
20 Apr 2004 |
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here's another site but they haven't updated in a while. I would love to see a Harry Potter tarot deck as well. Hopefully J. K. Rowling will mechandise it. :)
Archetypical
Main Page
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| Orion |
20 Apr 2004 |
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Is the Harry Potter deck available to be purchased??
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| laura_borealis |
20 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Orion
Is the Harry Potter deck available to be purchased??
It doesn't look like either of the two linked above are completed, or available for purchase. Oh well...
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| Kirali |
20 Apr 2004 |
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I don't think any will be available for purchase unless J. K. Rowling gives the thumbs up for a deck. :(
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| laura_borealis |
20 Apr 2004 |
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More incentive to make your own! :) What would you all have for your own personal Potter deck?
:SL :CL :OL :WL
If I designed a Harry Potter deck, I'd want to create a deck that I could imagine the characters using, rather than one based on the characters. Mine would still have dragons and phoenixes (Fawkes as Death -- to emphasize the rebirth aspect) and other mythological creatures. The historical figures of Hogwarts would be possibilities for inclusion, of course. But not Harry as the Fool or anything like that. (Harry would be so embarassed! :| and Malfoy would have such a field day.)
:SL :CL :OL :WL
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| ScarabFlight |
21 Apr 2004 |
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Ooooo! I love the idea of a Harry Potter tarot! :D
You know the sales would be rather high. With all of the Harry Potter fans and all those who are misinformed and feel the need to burn all the Harry Potter books. They would have a field day with Harry Potter cards. lol
Perhaps it would be modeled like a deck used at Hogworts and not one specifically featuring the characters. That would be interesting. More of an "old" deck. (if that makes any sense) Maybe they will learn tarot in divination class! lol Then you can feel like "I'm using the same cards as Hermione!"
I really like the idea of Fawkes as Death. :)
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| Niomi |
21 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by laura_borealis
If I designed a Harry Potter deck, I'd want to create a deck that I could imagine the characters using, rather than one based on the characters.
I agree! I've always been more interested in the culture and wizarding world more than the story of Harry Potter himself. I'd be much more interested in that deck than one featuring the Harry Potter characters.
My only and favorite deck, an Egyptian tarot, has taught me more about ancient Egypt (one of my up most fascinations) more than I could've guessed. Seeing their lives laid out into the tarot, and comparing the cards to other tarots, I have learned so much about humanity, the meanings of the cards, and the breathtaking legends and history of ancient Egypt at the same time! I'd love to see the same done with Harry Potter's world, which carries a charming potential to be a beautiful place for my imagination... as Egypt has been before.
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| HudsonGray |
21 Apr 2004 |
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That's a really good idea, I wonder if anyone suggested that to Ms. Rowlings? Does she have a web site anywhere?
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| Vilyariel |
21 Apr 2004 |
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Oooh! I love the idea of a Harry Potter deck...
I'm not sure if this idea has been suggested, or if it goes against the principle of creating decks, but are there any groups that work together to make themed decks? I mean, we could get a Harry Potter or LOTR group going where we can put ideas for cards, and then people can use these ideas to create their decks... they might find ideas, or different angles...
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| Khatruman |
21 Apr 2004 |
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Ohhh, for someone to make a good Lord of the Rings deck!!!
Perhaps more of a Middle Earth deck, so that the mythology of The Silmarillion could be incorporated!!!
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| Jewel |
21 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Khatruman
Ohhh, for someone to make a good Lord of the Rings deck!!!
Perhaps more of a Middle Earth deck, so that the mythology of The Silmarillion could be incorporated!!!
OHHHH that would be great. So what are you waiting for Kaht?
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| Vilyariel |
22 Apr 2004 |
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Yeah, I want to get a really good LOTR-esque deck. I bought both the LOTR tarot and the LOTR oracle, and wasn't too impressed with either. Admittedly, the LOTR tarot has some really nice illustrations, but the border and explanations let it down. When I told my friend about this deck, he said 'Oh, you're stupid! Whats it going to tell you? that you're going to marry Legolas?' That cracked me up...tsk tsk...poor misinformed boy.
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| Shade |
22 Apr 2004 |
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I'm going to be in the minority here (ducks tomato) but I think an official Harry Potter deck would be a bad idea. I love the books but I think that the deck would add to the argument put forth b a bunch of wackos that Harry Potter is leading children to the forces of darkness. Thus far people have been able to show that there is no link between the books and the occult and I think we should keep it that way.
I think it would be better to see decks created by fans. I think this is best with fan decks where we all have diferent ideas about what would appear on each card (like the Lord of the rings deck... Saruman as the Hierophant?!?). Should Fawkes be Death, or Cedric perhaps?
I rather like the idea Scarab Flight put forth about a Hogwarts Tarot (although Trelawney never mentioned one there HAD to be one there).
On an unofficial harry potter magical items note I love this site www.whirlwood.com I have the Dumbledore wand myself. http://www.whirlwood.com/shop/list.html?categ=7
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| Shade |
24 Apr 2004 |
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On the topic of a hogwarts deck how would minor arcana suits work... I was thinking of the 4 school houses. I deliberated forever but ended up with Gryffindor/wands, Hufflepuff/cups, Ravenclaw/swords, Slytherin/discs/pentacles. Probably the founders of each house would appear in the courts... mayb ethe house ghosts as well. How would others work the minors?
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| Vilyariel |
25 Apr 2004 |
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hey, thats a really different idea! But I LOVE it!
I'd have worked the founders into the major arcana perhaps, and the ghosts, and used house members as the court cards [probably just as an icon, not necessarily according to attributes]
I would have used coins [the money they use in harry potter]
wands, - wands, swords - godric gryffindor's, cups - goblets or cauldrons?
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| laura_borealis |
25 Apr 2004 |
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Amazing how different minds work along similar lines...
The Harry Potter deck at Archtypical uses these house correspondences:
Gryffindor - wands
Slytherin - swords
Ravenclaw - cups
Hufflepuff - pentacles
The project at The Pensieve uses these:
Gryffindor - wands
Slytherin - swords
Ravenclaw - pentacles
Hufflepuff - cups
Both use the founders of the house as the Kings for their suit, and the heads of the houses as the Queens. After that, they diverge quite a bit.
These are both interesting efforts, but neither is what I would do. I still prefer the idea of a deck that I could imagine the characters in the books using... maybe something old and beautiful, that Ginny finds tucked away in a glass case in a Diagon Alley shop. It would reflect the world of wizardry and the history of the Harry Potter world, but it wouldn't be appropriate for such a deck to have current characters as figures on the cards.
That's my idea of a Harry Potter deck, anyway. I don't think there's anything wrong with using the current characters, it's just not what I would want. :)
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| Vilyariel |
26 Apr 2004 |
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I agree with Laura,
I do like the idea of a deck that people would use in Harry Potter.
I'd probably be more inclined to make one of those if i knew more about the background of harry potter's world, but yeah... i don't know all that much. If it was a choice between a harry potter deck and a deck that was used in harry potter, i'd go for the latter, but eventually get the other deck for the novelty.
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| Kiama |
26 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Khatruman
Ohhh, for someone to make a good Lord of the Rings deck!!!
Perhaps more of a Middle Earth deck, so that the mythology of The Silmarillion could be incorporated!!!
My housemate and I have done an 'Alternative LOTR Tarot', using the images from the film. We handmade it, for our own personal use. It's Majors only, but very effective and beautiful... :D I think if there is no possibility of a 'real' Harry Potter deck being published, I will wait til all the films come out and do the same thing. :D
Blessings,
Kiama
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| HudsonGray |
26 Apr 2004 |
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You know, according to the commercials out now for the Prisoner of Azkaban, they're introducing the dittsy Divination teacher (thick glasses you could use for beer goggles!), maybe they'll have a deck in the movie that she's using? Cross the fingers.
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| Shade |
26 Apr 2004 |
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So was anyone annoyed that Prof. Trelawney (the aforementioned ditzy Divination teacher) played up the stereotype of divination and fortune-telling being inaccurate hocum frowned upon by all serious witches and wizards?
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| Mr. Sluagh |
26 Apr 2004 |
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Like everyone else, I'd love to see a Harry Potter deck. Along with a Harry Potter roleplaying game. Of course, it'll be best if they wait until the books are done to do both. I guess both of our obscure, misunderstood, introverted little subcultures will have our ways then.
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| Vilyariel |
27 Apr 2004 |
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Kiama -- i did something similar, but i used fanart. I also wrote all the names of the cards in Quenya.
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| Jewel |
27 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Shade
So was anyone annoyed that Prof. Trelawney (the aforementioned ditzy Divination teacher) played up the stereotype of divination and fortune-telling being inaccurate hocum frowned upon by all serious witches and wizards?
Well actually, that is how she is portrayed in the book .... however, she is not all phoney and Dumbledor knows that there is more to her than what meets the eye.
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| Shade |
27 Apr 2004 |
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Yes I was rather impressed by her prophecy from book 5... even if she has no idea about it.
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| Mr. Sluagh |
27 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Jewel
...Dumbledor knows that there is more to her than what meets the eye.
So she's had two real prophecies in her life. That's more than meets the eye, but not much more. I'm looking forward to seeing diviners get better press with this new centaur teacher.
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| Kiama |
28 Apr 2004 |
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Hi Shade: I actually must adimt to loving Prof. Trelawney. *Ducks flying tomatoes* I think the point of her was to take the mickey, in an inoffensive way, of the way mystics/fortune-tellers are seen, and peoples' reactions to them. Notice how Lavender and Parvati react to her and basically cling to her all the time, becoming enamoured with her 'predictions'.
I think that her presence, and the presence of her 'predictions' and divination in the Harry Potter series kinda shows that we (and the characters) have some control over life, and that it's not just fate controlling them.
Notice however, there are many predictions made by both Trelawney and Ron which seem hokey, e.g. her prediction of 'the Grim' and therefore Harry's death. But these hokey predictions actually seem to come true in some weird way, it's just that her interpretation of them is a little off.
And I'm gonna shut up now because it is rapidly becoming apparant that I've over-analyzed all this. })
Blessings,
Kiama
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| Jewel |
28 Apr 2004 |
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Kiama, I agree with you *LOL* ~also ducks the tomatoes~ I will wait and see what else plays out in the last two books and to see what becomes of her.
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| Shade |
28 Apr 2004 |
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There certainly are a lot of tomatoes in the air in this thread, 3 at latest count :)
On Trelawney's behalf I'm sure each of us know at least one person like her.
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| Diana |
28 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Kirali
I don't think any will be available for purchase unless J. K. Rowling gives the thumbs up for a deck. :(
All merchandising rights for Harry Potter belong to Warner Brothers.
I doubt Warner Brothers would accept giving a licence for a Tarot deck.
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| laura_borealis |
28 Apr 2004 |
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Like Shade, I prefer the idea of unofficial fan decks anyway. Realistically, an officially-sanctioned deck would probably just be a marketing tool, not a real tarot with any depth. I wouldn't want my Harry Potter deck to be movie-related merchandise. I would want it to be something I can use.
Which is why I might just design my own. :P I might be stepping on copyright laws a little bit, but if it's for my own use only, and uses only my own artwork, it shouldn't be too much of a problem.
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| laura_borealis |
28 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by Shade
On an unofficial harry potter magical items note I love this site www.whirlwood.com I have the Dumbledore wand myself. http://www.whirlwood.com/shop/list.html?categ=7
I meant to say before -- thanks for this link. :) They make beautiful wands. I was also amused by the little spell bags... though of course I was thinking "it's so easy to make your own! and would be more meaningful, too" :D
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| Jewel |
28 Apr 2004 |
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What I would really like to see is an official Hogwarts deck as someone else suggested. A deck that would be used in the divination class, not a deck focused on the movie characters. Some Hogwarts history and lore could be included in the deck, like the house ghosts, and the house founders, some of the magical creatures living in the forbidden forest, the Ministry of Magic and some of the more general parts of that world.
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| HudsonGray |
28 Apr 2004 |
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I don't know if Warner Bros owns everything. She did do a spinoff 'spell' book which had the entire proceeds go to benefit the UK equivelant of foster homes for kids. She does do side items that have benefit to society, possibly a deck authorized by her would be in the works. That's why I wondered if anyone had emailed her about the possibility.
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| Kirali |
29 Apr 2004 |
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Originally posted by HudsonGray
I don't know if Warner Bros owns everything. She did do a spinoff 'spell' book which had the entire proceeds go to benefit the UK equivelant of foster homes for kids. She does do side items that have benefit to society, possibly a deck authorized by her would be in the works. That's why I wondered if anyone had emailed her about the possibility.
That's why I thought publishing-wise, she would have to give it the go ahead.
I thought Warner Brother's just has the rights to products based on the movies, not her actual written works (ie. books) etc.?
Anyone know for sure?
If they were to use photographs from the movies then she might not have to approve but if it's her concept or comissioned, I thought she would have to approve. Someone help me out here! hehe :)
Oh yes I love the concept of a Hogwarts deck used in Harry & Ron's Divination class.
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| deedlit420 |
18 May 2004 |
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A harry potter deck would be awesome. It just seems to work for it all. And Professor Trelawney rocks. Its worth noting that near the end of book 4, she practically predicts all the events of book five.
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| tmgrl2 |
18 May 2004 |
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Just read back through threads again...and see this link was already added...sorry ...I was looking for website url...
terri
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| SpiritWalker |
18 May 2004 |
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I know I wouldn't mind having a Harry Potter deck. I think it would be a nice collectible and maybe even a good reading deck.
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| Savoyali |
20 May 2004 |
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There's another HP tarot in the works by Lysel. Apparently she has her majors all planned out, and the latest addition is the Hanged Man, mid-April. Her main page can be found here :)
I, too, would love to see a Hogwarts/Potterverse deck instead of one that just uses the characters. Anybody have a lot of spare time and drawing skills? ;)
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| laura_borealis |
20 May 2004 |
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Originally posted by Savoyali
There's another HP tarot in the works by Lysel .
Ooo, I really like that one. I like anime-style art (usually) and she's doing a really nice job. She has my appreciation especially for making Snape a hottie (Mmm! :) ) And I like her speculations on Malfoy. Love her broom and Golden Snitch borders, too.
As far as a Potterverse deck (nice word, that) I have a few ideas, but nothing planned out. What style do people envision it being? More Marseille-ish, more RWS-ish? Personally, I see something with muted colors but flashes of bright here and there, sort of medieval-looking, with lots of arcane symbols.
It's fun to think about, but I don't know that my artistic skills are up to snuff -- still, planning such a deck would give me a good excuse to read all the books again! :D
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| Jeannette |
20 May 2004 |
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Here's a little tidbit that followers of this thread might find interesting:
At the 2002 ITS conference in Chicago, someone asked Stuart Kaplan (President of U.S. Games Systems) during a Q&A session about the "best tarot you never published." Mr. Kaplan's reply: The Harry Potter Tarot deck.
Apparently U.S. Games did make a concerted attempt to obtain the publishing rights for such a deck. But, according to Mr. Kaplan, U.S. Games felt that the final royalty fees that the Warner Bros. representatives were insisting upon were too high. In the end, U.S. Games felt they'd have to charge more for such a deck that would be feasible for the market.
Mr. Kaplan added, in retrospect, that he felt it was a good business decision in the long run, since apparently Warner Bros. has over-licensed the market for Harry Potter merchandise. As a result, claimed Mr. Kaplan, there are so many Harry Potter products competing for (the admittedly vast, but still finite) consumer dollars that in fact, most companies that are manufacturing Harry Potter products are actually making little-to-no money on them.
A little food-for-thought, at any rate.
-- Jeannette
The Tarot Garden
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| sagitarian |
20 May 2004 |
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Originally posted by Savoyali
There's another HP tarot in the works by Lysel .
Wow, I do like the art work on this. Thanks for sharing!
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| Diana |
05 Jul 2004 |
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Warner Brothers are rats. (There are also quite a few cockroaches amongst them as well.)
Anyone using their images should be very careful.
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