LIST -Tarot Decks Fire + Swords

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 27 Apr 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

shryl	27 Apr 2004
Hi, Is there a way to compile a LIST of those decks that work primarly with the elements expressed as Fire=Swords & Air=Wands? Maybe it could be kept or sorted on Aeclectic tarot for those of us (many) who work with our elements in this form. I know there are a few decks like the Witches Tarot, but it seems hard to find them without going though lists of reviews. Even if the deck doesn't support this elemental correspondance, I would like a deck that maybe deplicts it either way for ease of use. ANY input would be helpful. Cheryl :-)

Sulis	27 Apr 2004
I think that the Nigel Jackson uses wands/air, swords/fire. Love Sulis xx

Jewel	27 Apr 2004
so does the Celtic Dragon

Kirali	27 Apr 2004
as does the Art Nouveau by Matt Myers and Legend: Arthurian Tarot by Anna Marie Ferguson I'm sure there are others but I cannot think of any more. Hope that helped! :)

hedgecub	27 Apr 2004
The Witches' Tarot by Ellen Cannon-Reed (not the Tarot of the Witches by Fergus Hall) uses Fire=Swords and Air=Wands as well.

Rusty Neon	27 Apr 2004
http://www.lelandra.com/tarotbook/deckattributes.htm

lionette	27 Apr 2004
Another is the Renaissance Tarot by Brian Williams...

Riversea	28 Apr 2004
Shapeshifter?

firemaiden	28 Apr 2004
Lo Scarabeo Celtic Tarot (gaudenzi) does. Lo Scarabeo Renaissance (trevisan) uses air for the ace of wands, and fire for the ace of swords, but neither element is very present in the rest of the minor cards.

SongDeva	28 Apr 2004
Yes, the Shapeshifter does it this way. Same author as the Celtic Dragon.

Cerulean	29 Apr 2004
http://www.themysticeye.com/pics/zukun.htm Not on Urania's online pdf catalogue or AGMueller's website, but as noted in another thread, this is supposedly translated to either French or English sometime in 2004...and I think given to AGMueller for distribution...there was a cryptic note in November/December in 2003 on the Urania site with the Zukundfts title and picture, but only a translator's reference and some no-picture listings on Amazon.com in France and England for the new title... Tarotgarden.com has the German language edition. Cerulean Mari

shryl	01 May 2004
Hi, So far I have: Witches Tarot (Ellen Cannon Reed) Celtic Tarot -Lo Scarabeo Tarot of the Spirit Osho zen tarot Art Nouveau -Lo Scarabeo DreamPower Tarot Whimisical Tarot Merlin tarot- Lo Scarabeo Shapshifter tarot Celtic dragon Hanson-Roberts Nigel Jackson Legand Arthurian Tarot Zukunfts Tarot ? Thats ALL I have found. Where are all the decks so many talk about? Anyone know of any others? Cheryl

Rusty Neon	01 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by shryl Hi, Tarot of the Spirit Osho zen tarot What makes you say that Osho Zen is Fire=Swords? The cards, and the companion book that comes with the deck-book set, seem silent on the point of element-to-suit attributions? As well, are you sure about the Tarot of the Spirit. I confess, though, all I have is the deck, not the companion book.

felicityk	01 May 2004
I don't think Hanson-Roberts uses fire for swords; as far as I can tell it follows the Waite-Smith for all symbolism, including wands for fire. It's also not the Art Nouveau from Lo Scarabeo, it's the other Art Nouveau by Matt Myers (U.S. Games). And the Merlin Tarot is not by Lo Scarabeo either; I can't remember the publisher offhand. And one more to add to the list is Tarot 2000/Pagan Tarot by Robin Payne and Rosemary Lewsey. Didn't someone else mention the Renaissance Tarot by Brian Williams? That also belongs on the list. Felicity

Gerbear	01 May 2004
The book for the Tarot of the Spirit has the Wands paired with Fire.

BlueLotus	02 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by shryl Hi, So far I have: Witches Tarot (Ellen Cannon Reed) Celtic Tarot -Lo Scarabeo Tarot of the Spirit Osho zen tarot Art Nouveau -Lo Scarabeo DreamPower Tarot Whimisical Tarot Merlin tarot- Lo Scarabeo Shapshifter tarot Celtic dragon Hanson-Roberts Nigel Jackson Legand Arthurian Tarot Zukunfts Tarot ? Thats ALL I have found. Where are all the decks so many talk about? Anyone know of any others? Cheryl You may also want to add the following to the above list Dante Tarot - Lo Scarabeo

shryl	02 May 2004
Thanks for the corrections and additions. It it tough as I am going by reviews.. as I don't have many decks. Again thanks for all of your input! :-) Updated List: Witches Tarot (Ellen Cannon Reed) Celtic Tarot -Lo Scarabeo Art Nouveau -Matt Myers DreamPower Tarot Whimisical Tarot Merlin tarot ? publisher Shapshifter tarot Celtic dragon Nigel Jackson Legand Arthurian Tarot Zukunfts Tarot Tarot 2000/Pagan Tarot - Robin Payne Renaissance Tarot-Brian Williams Dante Tarot - Lo Scarabeo

unbearablelight	02 May 2004
Quote: Originally posted by Rusty Neon What makes you say that Osho Zen is Fire=Swords? The cards, and the companion book that comes with the deck-book set, seem silent on the point of element-to-suit attributions? As well, are you sure about the Tarot of the Spirit. I confess, though, all I have is the deck, not the companion book. In the companion book to the Osho Zen it says that "Clouds have been chosen to replace Swords, traditonally the suit of air, representing the mind."

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