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Greenwood at $605 - is any deck worth it?

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 09 Aug 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Bean Feasa  09 Aug 2004 
Like many people here I'd adore to have this deck, and I check Amazon, Abe-books etc. regularly to see if one's come up. I've just seen one retailing from an Amazon marketplace seller at $605. Ironically, right beneath the price there's the little 'low price' logo!!!!!! :( I'm afraid the Greenwood will NOT be winging its way to me in the near future.
Question is - is any deck worth this kind of money? What do you think? 


Ruby7  09 Aug 2004 
I don't think so!! Not unless it was an antique genuinely rare deck. You will probably get this deck eventually Bean Feasa at a decent price, might take a while though.

Ruby7 


babyd  09 Aug 2004 
I saw that one too, ridiculous price.

Keep trying, I never thought I would own this deck but I was lucky enough to find one very recently in perfect, new condition, complete with the book for only $45 !!

Miracles do happen, you will find it I am sure. 


darwinia  09 Aug 2004 
No, it is not worth that.

It's a deck of cards, that probably cost. . .I don't know somewhere around $5-$10 to produce.

It was in print within the last 5 years I think too.

Silly.

People are greedy, but we allow them to be by supporting this nonsense and believing the hype.

I asked about a copy of the Hermetic once. The person was asking $150 US. When I balked and said I would never pay that, they wrote back and told me that that was the going price and they had every right to ask that for it.

Not in my life. Not in the life of anyone rational. 


Mimers  09 Aug 2004 
Although it is a great deck, I don't think any deck is worth that much money. No way, no how.

I would not pay more than $100 for any deck at all. Anything else to me would seem obsurd. $600 PLEASE! 


blackroseivy  09 Aug 2004 
That's the one I spotted & brought up. I have just been to EBay & have seen a *genuine* antique - a 1760's TdeM - going now for over $300, but the reserve hasn't been met; I suspect it will probably be $500. That *still* makes it less than this absurd price on a modern, *recent* deck! I'll post again with whatever price that one goes at. 


fyreflye  09 Aug 2004 
Booksellers will tell you that the internet has driven up used book (and by extension tarot deck) prices to a ridiculous level. When an internet seller digs what he suspects is an OP book or deck out of the slush pile at a garage sale he immediatey checks the selling price at Amazon or American Book Exchange, where he may find some ridiculous price he thinks he has to match. It never occurs to him that the other dealers have all done the same and have settled by default on a price that no one will actually pay. Remember, these are asking prices; no one may ever have actually bought one of these books or decks at the listed price. I can often find these same books at Moe's or Shakespeare & Co in Berkeley priced at 60% of their face value. But if you're far from the cultural centers you're basically out of luck. 


WolfSpirit  09 Aug 2004 
I asked my Greenwood what he thought of people having to pay $ 605 for his brothers. He told me 7 of cups "Mourning".

I paid $ 38 for mine - but I could not have done it without Ravenswing, I bought it from a seller who only shipped inside US and Ravenswing shipped it on to me :) 


Gerbear  09 Aug 2004 
Of course it's worth it to those who bid it up to that price. If you're not involved in the transaction, then your sense of 'worth' is irrelevant in this case. Pure Capitalism is codified greed, and to even the smallest extent, we all participate in it. Ridiculous, mournful, absurd, no, this is just business, those terms are better applied to the state of the world that fosters it. 


laura_borealis  09 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by danubhe
That's the one I spotted & brought up. I have just been to EBay & have seen a *genuine* antique - a 1760's TdeM - going now for over $300, but the reserve hasn't been met; I suspect it will probably be $500.


I'm not so sure about that TdM on eBay. There's a thread around here somewhere on it, several people feel doubtful about its authenticity. 


Summerdream  09 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Bean Feasa

Question is - is any deck worth this kind of money? What do you think?


ABSOLUTELY NOT!!! 


janstar17  09 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Bean Feasa
Question is - is any deck worth this kind of money? What do you think?


I could never justify paying that much for a deck...regardless of its heritage!! And that much for a modern, recently OOP deck is amazing! 


arcanalefait  09 Aug 2004 
I think the prices for used decks on amazon are pretty random. I've seen the Tarot of the Dead on there for something like $200. I paid $15 for it on ebay. People think they can get that much for an out-of-print deck, I guess.

I'd love to own the Greenwood, but I can't even justify paying around $100 for it. Though if won the lottery or something...

Peace,
arcana 


WolfSpirit  10 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gerbear
Of course it's worth it to those who bid it up to that price.


The Greenwood she was talking about does not involve bidding, it is the asking price of a marketseller. So far it is not sold yet, so that would mean potential buyers think it is not worth it. 


Bean Feasa  10 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by WolfSpirit
I asked my Greenwood what he thought of people having to pay $ 605 for his brothers. He told me 7 of cups "Mourning".


Hehe, thanks Wolfspirit, I like the idea of the Greenwood itself getting upset over the price being asked for it.
Oh well, the search continues....
Funny thing is I do feel quite convinced that I'm going to have this deck some day. Don't know where I get that sense of conviction from. On my way to and from work everyday I pass a little antique furniture shop called Greenwood, and I always sort of nod to the name and smile to myself and think... it's on its way. 


crystal cove  10 Aug 2004 
I think it all comes down to perspective and what a person can afford. I know people who think spending $25 on a deck is ridiculous.

Six hundred dollars is more than I want to spend for a deck but if someone else can afford it, they're welcome to it. I don't think it's any more irrational than any of the other things I see people spending money on these days.

My husband spent money on a mint Hermetic deck last year for me on our anniversary and I spent quite a bit on a de la Felicite. I can afford it once in a while and have no qualms about it. 


blackroseivy  10 Aug 2004 
About Ebay:

I have seen the scans of the deck & I figure, hey, if it turns out to be a crock, they will just have to refund somebody's money! It looked genuine enough to me, but I don't think you can *really* tell without actually having it in your hands. 


blue_fusion  10 Aug 2004 
well, it really is up to you. if you have the resources (money) as well as the desire for it, then by all means, don't let any negative comment here stop you.

i guess if i had the money, i'd go for the felicita tarot too.

:) 


janstar17  10 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Bean Feasa
Hehe, thanks Wolfspirit, I like the idea of the Greenwood itself getting upset over the price being asked for it.
Oh well, the search continues....
Funny thing is I do feel quite convinced that I'm going to have this deck some day. Don't know where I get that sense of conviction from. On my way to and from work everyday I pass a little antique furniture shop called Greenwood, and I always sort of nod to the name and smile to myself and think... it's on its way.

I believe intentionality is a powerful force! You are doing your part, the universe may just do the rest for you. :-) Good luck!! 


blue_fusion  10 Aug 2004 
sorry to post again. couldn't resist.

paraphrasing from grace kelly: when it (originally LOVE) beckons you, follow HIM. though HIS voice may shatter your dreams.

if ya want it that much, go for it. this may just be one of the rare moments given to you to get it.

;) 


blackroseivy  10 Aug 2004 
That's what I did - more debt to pay for the Alchemical, I mightn't have the opportunity again! Thank goodness for EBay saving my butt, sold another kind of rarity & can pay for this plus some besides!! 


Kissa  23 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Gerbear
Of course it's worth it to those who bid it up to that price. If you're not involved in the transaction, then your sense of 'worth' is irrelevant in this case. Pure Capitalism is codified greed, and to even the smallest extent, we all participate in it. Ridiculous, mournful, absurd, no, this is just business, those terms are better applied to the state of the world that fosters it.


amen to that.

just did a search with "greenwood tarot" as a title on abebooks.com and got 0 matching results.

so: 1) i'm lousy at using a search engine or 2) the seller sold it at that price.

kissa 


ferrous  23 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by danubhe
That's what I did - more debt to pay for the Alchemical, I mightn't have the opportunity again! Thank goodness for EBay saving my butt, sold another kind of rarity & can pay for this plus some besides!!

What rarity did you sell, danubhe? I'm curious .. 


fyreflye  23 Aug 2004 
Here's the current champion...
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/offer-listing/1855380013//102-2248016-3299356?condition=all 


TygrEyes  23 Aug 2004 
Holy Crow! Just when you thought insanity actually did have a limit. That has to be a typo, right? $98.90 


WolfSpirit  24 Aug 2004 
We definitely have to send the buyer of that to the de-enabling thread :D 


Bean Feasa  24 Aug 2004 
Quote:
Originally posted by Kissa
just did a search with "greenwood tarot" as a title on abebooks.com and got 0 matching results.

so: 1) i'm lousy at using a search engine or 2) the seller sold it at that price.


It's an amazon marketplace seller, Kissa, not abebooks who is offering the Greenwood at €605. It's still for sale, no takers yet.

AND

I notice it's the very same seller who's asking $989 for the Servants of the Light deck.
Hmmmm.....! 


deva  24 Aug 2004 
Good grief :eek: My Servants of the Light deck is going up for sale if there's anyone out there paying those prices for it!! :D 


Trogon  24 Aug 2004 
What bothers me most about this thread... Last year, when I was looking at Tarot decks at the local New-Age shop, they had 2 copies of the Greenwood! At the original market price! I'm guessing they don't have them any more... not if the used ones are going for over $600.
Quote:
Originally posted by darwinia
I asked about a copy of the Hermetic once. The person was asking $150 US. When I balked and said I would never pay that, they wrote back and told me that that was the going price and they had every right to ask that for it.

Not in my life. Not in the life of anyone rational.

And yes, anyone who is selling something, especially something "collectable", has the "right" to ask just about any price they want. But we, as consumers, also have the right to tell them they're full of it (or full of themselves maybe?).

By the way... I have a vintage Aladdin/Stanley brand thermos-style bottle. Slightly used. I bought it myself clear back in the 70's. Asking price is $235,000.00 (USD). Any takers? 


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