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Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 05 Sep 2004, and now archived in the Forum Library.

mags  05 Sep 2004 
could ya tell me what are the differences between Aeclectic Tarot and Marseilles deck? (i know that pictures are diferent) sorrrrrry for this stupid question, I'd really like to know which one if better for ya and why. 


Maan  05 Sep 2004 
Hello Mags welcome
I don't really understand what you mean with the term "aeclectic tarot". Do you mean the decks based on the rider waite smith?

Love
Maan 


mags  05 Sep 2004 
yes, that's what i meant, sorry for not being clear about that

ta for the welcome
mags 


Cerulean  05 Sep 2004 
Hmmm...is this a general guide?


When I started writing reviews, I only knew that people referred design styles in the following ways:

"RWS" for Rider Waite Smith or RWS influenced designs with full pictures in every scene and Justice is 11 and Strength is Eight. It can be a general term for a design that was published in 1909-1910.

"Marseilles" for designs that have full pictures in the 22 Majors, 14 Court figures and 40 suited cards that probably do not have full scenes; but they show all the pip symbols with the appropriate number according to the card, sometimes with additional decorations. The majors usually are Justice as eight and Strength as 11. Since coming here, I have been trying to change when I say "Marseilles" decks to the more accurate "Marseilles-style" if the decks were not made with clear French influences between 1650 and late 1800s.

I might say now a good historical Marseilles was designed between 1650 and late 1800s with French titles and clear design influence--- but it seems folks here like the modern Kris Hadar designs and feel the colors are as bright and clean as historic designs. So I guess most people believe the Hadar is a Marseilles design.

I prefer my Swiss Marsiglia 1805 with the Hanged Man in profile--one of my modern Marseilles-style reproductions actually drew from this deck. But I found it was more expensive than other Marseilles decks and some might not call it a true "Marseilles"...I'm still trying to get my definitions straight.


The earlier historical Italian designs in general share the design convention of full pictures in 22 majors, 14 Court figures and 40 suited cards that do not have full scenes but do have pip symbols. But there was a lot of design variations in Italian historical tarots that can be roughly 1450-through-1880s. I've now started trying to identify the regional area the design comes from in Italian styles when I name the deck--a Milanese, Bolognese, etc., regional style. Not easy though, one has to keep looking through the references... 


Myrrha  06 Sep 2004 
Hello Mags, welcome to the forum

Which decks have you used?

Decks based on the Rider-Waite-Smith design have pictures on all the cards. Some people find that the pictures stimulate intuition and imagination and bring in ideas that go beyond the meaning of the card as you find it in books, and turn out to be useful and relevant.

Some decks like this that you will see people talking about here are The Tarot of Prague, The Gilded Tarot, The Robin Wood Tarot.

There are also people who read with Marseilles decks, or other decks that don't have scenes with people in them on the number cards. They use numerology to give meaning to the number cards and also have intuitive reactions to differences in the tiny details on pip decks. Some people prefer these decks because they feel that having pictures on the minor cards locks you in to a particular interpretation.

Decks like this include the Kris Hader and Fournier Marseilles.

There is an interesting FAQ here, http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/learn/faq.shtml
but reading threads is the best way to get a feel for how people experience the different kinds of decks.

--Myrrha 


mags  06 Sep 2004 
thank u very much!
I am asking because I got the deck made by piatnik (they even have the site www.piatnik.com) but i never heard of it before. was wondering if it's good

mags 


mags  06 Sep 2004 
this link is better:

http://www.piatnik.com/english/playcards/index.html 


Myrrha  06 Sep 2004 
Well, I don't think any of us can tell you if your deck is any good. If it works for you it is a good deck. :-)

One way to start building a relationship with your deck (can't tell which one you have from the link) is to pull one card a day and think about how it connects with the events and feelings of your day.

--Myrrha 


mags  06 Sep 2004 
I like this deck very much, i mean, i feel i can read something from it and I feel it's the right one for me. But I am still learning and don't know a lot yet.

is it possible to learn to read Tarot not having a teacher?
thank u for your time
mags 


Myrrha  06 Sep 2004 
I like to think you can teach yourself. I am far from being an expert reader though. This forum can be very helpful for learning.

Good luck!

--Myrrha 


mags  06 Sep 2004 
thankie! :D glad to find ya here 


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