Waking the Wild Spirit Tarot
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 05 Feb 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| FaerieStorm |
05 Feb 2005 |
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I am very interested in purchasing this deck. A while back I was able to view all of Poppy Palin's cards on her website (www.poppypalin.com), but it's closed. Does anyone has opinions on this one?
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| Grizabella |
06 Feb 2005 |
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I have Waking the Wild Spirit and I love it. It's a really beautiful deck as far as the art work goes. It doesn't stick to RW meanings, though, and I think to read with it, you have to rely heavily on intuition. The system for reading with it is intuitive. I recommend it very highly.
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| Island Dreamer |
06 Feb 2005 |
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I also have Waking the Wild Spirit and it is a beautiful deck although the cards are very 'busy' with lots of symbolism. The book is also very wordy and tends to ramble a bit...
Try this webpage which gives a fair amount of information (it doesn't give all the card images but my favourite, the Seven of Fire is there :) )
Waking the Wild Spirit Tarot
Hope this helps.
Dreamer
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| Simone |
06 Feb 2005 |
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I do have the deck too, and I quite like it. Although I have not used it for readings much, I sometimes use it for one-car pulls and it gives me quite interesting messages about the energies of a situation.
As Lyric says, it is an intuitive deck, but to read the cards, I am putting myself into it, as one of the "personnalities", be it a human, animal or fairy, and feel the story the card tells.
Hey, kind of makes me want to pull a card :D
Love
Simone
PS (edited to add): if more entities are on the card, I take the one I feel most attracted to at that moment :D
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| Grizabella |
06 Feb 2005 |
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What a great idea, Simone, to become one of the entities on the card! I'm going to try that myself.
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| Fudugazi |
06 Feb 2005 |
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I love that deck - I wouldn't call it a tarot, more of an oracle, but such a positive, life-affirming deck. I like the story-form of the book, although some of the texts read like a hard-sell conversion to the Green movement. Still, it cheers me up, makes me think about my place in the world - the cards are lovely. I have decided to read with it only for myself or in live readings, as I think this is one of those decks you get a lot from visually.
My parents have just moved, and my mother, who is partially sighted, has been feeling very disoriented, and not yet in her place in her new home, not helped by the dim winter light. She drew a card from Waking the Wild Spirit (I had to describe it to her) and got "Seed" - the first card of the suit of earth. A lovely image of growth happening under the earth, preparing its eclosion above. She is a Virgo, too, so all things green and growing touch her deeply.
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| RedMaple |
07 Feb 2005 |
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Faerie Storm,
Sorry for the PM -- I thought you were posting to buy or trade. My mistake.
RedMaple
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| Majecot |
08 Feb 2005 |
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Does anyone have a scan of the Magician? I think this might be the mystery deck I have been looking for.
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| RedMaple |
09 Feb 2005 |
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Does anyone have a scan of the Magician? I think this might be the mystery deck I have been looking for.
Here's a scan of the Magician card.
RM
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| Majecot |
09 Feb 2005 |
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Thanks RedMaple...It was not the card that I thought it was, but I am liking this deck. I think my son may like it too.
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| FaerieStorm |
10 Feb 2005 |
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I just received my copy today, and I love the images. However, I find some of the pip cards to be either misinterpreted all together, or they seem to be switched with other cards. For instance, the 8 of Earth (The Trap) doesn't make any sense to me; the 6 of Air and the 7 of air seem to be switched; Nine of Air seems to be opposite of its original meaning; the 4 of fire seems to be relating to work--not celebration; the 7 of fire seems like it should be the 8 of fire; the 9 of fire I just don't get where she got that; and 4 of water seems off. Even though I'm sort of a novice it seems like Palin has taken a lot of liberties. Can anyone help me with some of these arcana? Thanks.
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| dolphinprincess |
11 Feb 2005 |
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I just received my copy today, and I love the images. However, I find some of the pip cards to be either misinterpreted all together, or they seem to be switched with other cards. For instance, the 8 of Earth (The Trap) doesn't make any sense to me; the 6 of Air and the 7 of air seem to be switched; Nine of Air seems to be opposite of its original meaning; the 4 of fire seems to be relating to work--not celebration; the 7 of fire seems like it should be the 8 of fire; the 9 of fire I just don't get where she got that; and 4 of water seems off. Even though I'm sort of a novice it seems like Palin has taken a lot of liberties. Can anyone help me with some of these arcana? Thanks.
If you try to read this deck like you read a typical RWS deck , it will drive you crazy. Palin has taken a lot of liberties - and the cards don't 'fit' into the normal minor arcana meanings. I think if you use the number+element system, it may make more sense... or just use intuition or the book meanings..... I think this is why a lot of people use this as more of an oracle than a regular tarot...
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| Grizabella |
11 Feb 2005 |
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It's definitely a more intuitive deck. I was absolutely overjoyed with the deck at first, but then I kind of bogged down and had to put it away for awhile. I think the only way to read with it is by intuition. I think the book gives a "sense" of the meanings and emotional connotations for the cards, but not actual meanings. Later on when I'm more at leisure to work with it, I'll get it back out. I absolutely love the deck, but at this time I'm putting my focus on honing my reading skills for paid readings and for that, it's better I concentrate on my Universal Waite for the time being.
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| magpie9 |
11 Feb 2005 |
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I am so frustrated by Poppy Palin (and other deck creators) who invent thier own systems from scratch. this is a beautiful and fascinating deck, but I don't really have the time to re-invent tarot with it. And the book is less than no help. It rambles on and on and on, and gives very little actual information. I think her editor must have been asleep at the switch.
This is happening more and more lately,* and while I think creativity is a very very good thing, I wish these people would get honest and label thier decks "Oracle" so that those of us who don't want to learn a new system from the ground up could know what we're getting into!
Ggggrrrrrrr!
*other examples: Tarot of Transformation and Wheel of Change Tarot
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| RedMaple |
13 Feb 2005 |
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I am so frustrated by Poppy Palin (and other deck creators) who invent thier own systems from scratch. this is a beautiful and fascinating deck, but I don't really have the time to re-invent tarot with it. And the book is less than no help. It rambles on and on and on, and gives very little actual information. I think her editor must have been asleep at the switch.
This is happening more and more lately,* and while I think creativity is a very very good thing, I wish these people would get honest and label thier decks "Oracle" so that those of us who don't want to learn a new system from the ground up could know what we're getting into!
Ggggrrrrrrr!
*other examples: Tarot of Transformation and Wheel of Change Tarot
I agree with you totally. I also feel that Poppy Palin's book is condescending, as if she has the inside track and we're all on the wrong page. I hated it.
In spite of that, I like some of the cards, but haven't really used the deck yet. Maybe I will eventually try it as an oracle deck. Otherwise, it is in the pile of things to trade or give away.
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| ros |
13 Feb 2005 |
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Beautiful deck but I can't do a thing with it!
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| WolfSpirit |
13 Feb 2005 |
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I remember I was so excited when I first saw pictures of this deck when it was just published. I thought it would be a perfect deck for me ! I was so disappointed about it - I thought the book was so boring and badly written and also the meanings of the cards did not make much sense.
Still, I never could bring myself to trading it - every time I looked at the deck I would find an image I really loved. What the author could not say in the book, she certainly knew how to express it in her paintings !
Now I have gotten rid of the borders and the keywords on the cards - they look even much better now, and I also got rid of the book, in the back of my mind I have the idea of writing my own story for them (hope I will ever come round to doing this) so there is no other way for me with this deck but the intuitive way :D
I felt a bit guilty about adapting this deck this way for my own use - but then I look at the images, and I think the creator would want to bring across the joy and energy she put into it, and this is the only way that does it for me. I am happier with the deck now than I have ever been !
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| Cocobird55 |
13 Feb 2005 |
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What I like best about this deck is the backs of the cards -- spread them out and see a beautiful pattern.
I was also put off by the book, so I don't use it.
Sue
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| Bean Feasa |
13 Feb 2005 |
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I traded this deck for most of the reasons already mentioned. An additional one was the busy, diagonally-striped borders which reminded me of barbers' poles. They seemed to squash all the life out of the images. This was before any talk of trimming borders had emerged on the boards here at AT, lol! But I don't think I'd have kept even a trimmed version of the deck.
Many of the illustrations are moving and beautiful, but - I think the tone of the book coloured the deck for me - its lack of humility left me feeling at odds with the deck itself, despite it's beauty. A pity... this really could have been the one!
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| Fudugazi |
13 Feb 2005 |
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I just received my copy today, and I love the images. However, I find some of the pip cards to be either misinterpreted all together, or they seem to be switched with other cards. For instance, the 8 of Earth (The Trap) doesn't make any sense to me; the 6 of Air and the 7 of air seem to be switched; Nine of Air seems to be opposite of its original meaning; the 4 of fire seems to be relating to work--not celebration; the 7 of fire seems like it should be the 8 of fire; the 9 of fire I just don't get where she got that; and 4 of water seems off. Even though I'm sort of a novice it seems like Palin has taken a lot of liberties. Can anyone help me with some of these arcana? Thanks.
Yes. Don't think of it as Tarot. It's a wonderful oracle. Take it on its own terms, and you'll love it. It is a complete system in its own right.
I like the story-book, not great literature, but it has its moments, and will let you enter the card. Then you can write your own stories, if you don't like the ones you see. I just love to weave my own tales from those beguiling happy images. That Devil is EXACTLY what I see in the Devil - a force for liberation and ecstasy, dangerous but illuminating, so I was captured from the start...
Like most here, I think this oracle really stands on its drawings. The green agenda Poppy Palin advances is very worthy, but she does ram it down your throat at times.
Oh, and the number and suit meanings are useful too. The RWS meanings are totally irrelevant. As I said, it's not even a Tarot.
I call it my happy deck. It always cheers me up.
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