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vintage decks (70's/80's)

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 11 Apr 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Elizabeth Genco  11 Apr 2005 
So, Lillie's thread inspired this one. I did some searching for a thread like it and came up empty so I figured I'd start one. Note: my search-fu is pretty awful, so if I missed one, do post it and that'll be the end of it. :)

Talk of the Sheridan and Lillie's professed interest in vintage decks has me all curious about other decks from the 70's and 80's. Shall we make a list for easy reference? In print or out of print, doesn't matter. Here are a few:

+ The Sheridan
+ Morgan Greer
+ The Aquarian
+ The New York Tarot (all pictures were taken between 1979 and 1986)
+ The Hoi Polloi

Others?

These are the times when I wish I had Kaplan's Tarot encyclopedias... 


Emily  11 Apr 2005 
Thoth :)

Although I think the Thoth was the late 60's. 


Elizabeth Genco  11 Apr 2005 
Yeah, OK, that was obvious, wasn't it. ;) Hee... 


HudsonGray  11 Apr 2005 
The Royal Fez Moroccan is another, with that orange box it had. And I believer the Cat People Tarot was from the 1980's. 


cybercat  11 Apr 2005 
The copyright I have on my Cat people deck is 1991. 


bassetized  11 Apr 2005 
The Mythic Tarot was published in 1986, and the Arcus Arcanum in 1986 (majors) and 1988 (78 card).

--bassetized 


Michelle  11 Apr 2005 
Has anyone heard of the Reflexions deck? I believe it was published in the 70's.

Thank you :)

Blessings,
Michelle 


Gerbear  11 Apr 2005 
A partial list from my collection;

Tarot de Napoleon
Sternenmadchens (Star Maidens)
Tarot: The Ancient Prophesy
20th Century Tarot
Astral Tarot
Cooper Tarot (Eye Magazine)
Alitalia Tarot
Andrea Picini Tarot
Andrea Picini Majors
DeLaurence Tarot (Red)
Linweave Tarot
Tarot of Marseille/Grimaud Edition
9th Dimension Tarot
Le Tarot Revele
T: The New Tarot
University Books Rider-Waite
Wollenhaupt-Brenner Tarot
Zolar's Astrological Tarot
Deustches Original Tarot
Gentilini Tarot
Holy Orders of Man Tarot
Tarot Noir
Yeager Tarot of Meditation

An advanced search at Tarot Garden, will bring up many more, such as The Amazon Tarot, Annabella Magie Noir Tarot, Sacerdotal, Glass #2 Tarot, Acuario Tarot, Thomson-Leng, etc... 


Fulgour  11 Apr 2005 
Ka :laugh: Ching! Every time I read "University Books"
I put another dollar in my wish list cookie jar. :laugh: 


Nevada  11 Apr 2005 
Voyager Tarot was first published in the 80's -- 1986, I believe.

Nevada 


Annabelle  11 Apr 2005 
No one has mentioned Morgan's Tarot yet, or the Xultun. Those both fall under the category of "vintage" I would think.... 


Gerbear  11 Apr 2005 
OK, I checked my spreadsheet and came up with a few more;

Trumps of Amber Tarot
Newwave Tarot
New Age (Neuzeit) Tarot
Barbara Walker Tarot
Basque Mythical Tarot
Prediction Tarot
Ravenswood Eastern Tarot
Maddonni Tarot
Chinese Tarot
Hoi Polloi Tarot
Papus Tarot
Simplified Tarot
Fantasy Showcase Tarot
Thea's Tarot
Caren Caraway Tarot
Hermetics Liberator Tarot
Rolla Nordic Tarot
Morgan's Tarot
Tharbon Tarot
Tarot de Hermes Thot
Louttre B Tarot
Linol Tarot
Tarot De La Rea
Napoleon Historical Tarot
Stairs of Gold Tarot
Medieval Scapini Tarot
Hermetic/Dowson Tarot
Hermetic Liberators Tarot

Ther are still more, but one can see that this period was a productive one for tarot decks. 


Fudugazi  12 Apr 2005 
El Gran Tarot Esoterico! Tarot Balbi! (check out those gorgeous psychedelic effects, perfect with bell-bottoms and readings over prawn cocktails); Tarocchi di Vetro (Crystal Tarot).

Tarot de Marseille Grimaud is vintage....1930s ;) 


Junia  12 Apr 2005 
Pop/Rock Tarot Calendar 1972 - Julia Noonan, artist. Major Arcana only. See at Tarotgarden.com.
Is 33 years vintage though? I wouldn't eat cheese that old, but wine or scotch might be good!

Could someone direct me to the museum which supposedly has the Visconti-Sforza? Is there a link w/pictures?

Thanks awfully! 


Sulis  12 Apr 2005 
The Albano-Waite was published in 1968. 


Leo62  12 Apr 2005 
Ultimate early80's - Motherpeace 


Nydia  12 Apr 2005 
I have a Tarot of the Cat People with a copyright 1985 on the box and in the LWB. The cards have "1984 U.S. Games Systems, Inc." I bought it in 1987 or 1988.

The Hanson-Roberts Tarot: I don't see a date on the box, but the LWB says 1985. The cards say 1984 like the Cat People deck. I was surprised to see 1985 because I thought they came out in 1990. I was just checking to see if they maybe came out in 1989. 


Strange2  12 Apr 2005 
Here's some additional 70's/80's decks from my collection:

Tarot Piatnik Wien - 1974
Oswald Wirth (US Games) -1976
Golden Dawn (Wang) - 1978
Epinal - 1979
Tarocco Indovino - 1979
Egyptian Tarot (AGM) - 1980
Cagliostro - 1981
Sacred Rose - 1982
Tarocco Tzigano - 1982
Vandenborre Bacchus - 1983
Egipcios Kier - 1984
Ansata - 1985
Gareth Knight - 1986
Deva - 1986
Eclectic - 1986
Mandala Astrological - 1987
Masonic - 1987
Tarot of the Ages - 1988
Elemental (Smith/Astrop) - 1988

Of the above, the Tarocco Tzigano and sister deck Neuzeit (New Age) by Walter Wegmuller are my favorite hippy/trippy decks! 


Lillie  12 Apr 2005 
That james Bond one must have been out in the 70's.
Ziegunner Gipsy Tarot, early 80's (edit - Strange2 has already mentioned this under it's other name, I think. Sorrry)
1JJ Swiss 70's at least. 


Gerbear  12 Apr 2005 
More 1970-80's decks, from around the world;

Namur
Buddhistic Fantasy
Tarocchi di Robot
Agyptisches Tarot
Minotarot
Norse
Transition
Calcazure Fantastique (Fantastic Shoes)
Alchemisten
Elksinger's Perfected Tarot
Flying Hearts Tarot
Derakkusu ban Hihou Tarot
Jan Woudhuysen Tarot
Tarocchi Universali
Eingeweihten
Tarot Egipcios
Cartomancie de L'an 2000
Oreste Zevola
New World/Folchi
Tarocchi Ermetici
Pinocchio/Valcauda
Tarot de Paris/Dimanche
Shiawase no Mai Tarot
Tarocco del'Orror
Enoil Gavat
Sardinia
Der Praktische
Azteque
Solleone
Tarocchi Leboroni
Musica/Menegazzi
Moonprincess Tarot
Tarot des Mages
Tresors du Tarot (Tereschenko Cosmos)
Mexicano Tarot
Nueva Baraja Egipcia
22 Pittori in 22 Arcani
Juni Seiza Uranai Tarot 


DoctorArcanus  12 Apr 2005 
Junia wrote:


Could someone direct me to the museum which supposedly has the Visconti-Sforza? Is there a link w/pictures?

Thanks awfully!


I couldn't find a site about Accademia Carrara in Bergamo (which about 30 kms from Milano, where I live).

This site in Italian as a few pictures: http://www.sapere.it/tca/minisite/arte/nonsolomostre/tarocchi.html but not the complete deck.
The deck is also known as "Colleoni" from the family name of the former owner. The Colleony family sold cards to Accademia Carrara and Pierpont-Morgan Library (New York), keeping a few cards. So the deck is currently split in three different locations!

"The Castle of Crossed Destinies" by Italo Calvino is a collection of short stories based on this deck. I think it's fun :-)
Ciao 


Elizabeth Genco  12 Apr 2005 
Thanks for the great responses, guys! This is a fun thread.

Gerbear, how are you compiling your lists? You must have a gazillion decks! (Remember, I'm new around here. ;) ) 


SilverWing  12 Apr 2005 
Great thread. I had no idea there were so many to choose from in the 80's. 


Rusty Neon  12 Apr 2005 
Herstory of Women's Tarot

http://www.lelandra.com/comptarot/womanstarottimeline.htm

[article includes descriptions of or references to various vintage decks]

________________________

A Timeline of the Occult and Divinatory Tarot
from 1750 to 1980
collected by Mary K. Greer
with assistance from Lola Lucas and K. Frank Jensen

http://www.tarotpassages.com/mkgtimeline.htm

[includes references to various vintage decks] 


Junia  12 Apr 2005 
DoctorArcanus - Welcome and thank you for the web site. I didn't realize how beautiful the originals were. The reproduction doesn't do them justice. I added the site to my favorites. You'll love this site. Folks here are proof that in each and every country and state there are still wonderful people in the world. I'll also see if I can locate the book. I was just asking the other day about a fun Tarot (noninterpretive) book to read!

Love and Cups of Nine,

Junia 


HudsonGray  12 Apr 2005 
"I have a Tarot of the Cat People with a copyright 1985 on the box and in the LWB. The cards have "1984 U.S. Games Systems, Inc." I bought it in 1987 or 1988."

That's what I thought too, I got mine in Madison at a convention and I haven't been back there since 1989. I moved in 1990 and I KNOW I had it before I made the move. But it is from the late 1980's. Not overly vintage! 


Gerbear  13 Apr 2005 
Elizabeth Genco wrote:
Thanks for the great responses, guys! This is a fun thread.

Gerbear, how are you compiling your lists? You must have a gazillion decks! (Remember, I'm new around here. ;) )



Not quite a gazillion, just 557 at present. By next week, the number will be 563, with more on the way. I'm one of those "collector" types. Click on my profile and you'll see the entire list. 


Tsuzuki  13 Apr 2005 
The Gareth Knight tarot deck. (1984/1985 U.S. Games) 


truelighth  14 Apr 2005 
Gerbear and Strange2 already have posted a lot, but I just compiled my own list of 70's decks. I haven't checked the 80's yet, save one. So here are some more:

Annabella Magie Noire Tarot 1979
Aperol Tarot 1973
Book of Thoth Tarot by Jerry Kay 1969
Le Conchiglie Divinatoire 1975
Fine Art Tarot 1979
Giovanni Vachetta Tarot (Black&White) 1976
Golden Cycle Tarot 1976
Guido Bolzani Tarot (Archinstudio Tarot) 1976
IJJ Swiss Tarot 1971
Japanese Egyptian Tarot 1974
Le Mani Divinatorie 1979
New Tarot by Hurley and Horler 1974
Pendragon Mother Tarot 1978
Sexual Tarot 1982
Tarocco delle Collezioni 1979
Tarocco di Osvaldo Menegazzi 1978
Tarot of Frown Strong 1978
Xultun Tarot 1976

The Linweave and T: The New Tarot for the Aquarian Age are both from the 60's, the Eingeweihten is from 1954 and I have one other vintage to add (apart from the Rider Waite):

Thomson-Leng 1935 


truelighth  14 Apr 2005 
I couldn't resist. I also went through my 1980's decks. I am leaving out the ones already mentioned though:

22 Arcani Fiabeschi 1986
22 Arcani Fumatori 1981
Adventures in Tarot (Regensteiner Tarot) 1981
Alchemical Tarot by Prinkle and O'Donnelly 1989
Ancient Tarot by Frank Cirocco 1982
Arcus Arcanum 1986
Art Nouveau Tarot by Matt Myers 1989
Bilder zum Tarot/Helmut Wonschick Tarot 1984
Book of Aradia Tarot 1984
Cosmic Tarot 1988
Daughters of the Moon B&W Tarot 1984
Engel Tarot by Hanslian 1987
I Fiori Divinatoire 1980
Fourth Way Tarot 1980
Gianni Novak Tarot 1984
Guarnaccia Tarot 1982
Jungian Tarot 1988
Kashmir Tarot 1984
Living Earth Tarot 1986
Minotarot 1982
Multicopy Tarot 1980
Neuzeit Tarot 1982
New Vision Tarot: An Animation Deck 1983
Norse Tarot 1989
Omaggio a Erte 1987
Petit Tarot de F’Murr 1984
Poet's Tarot 1986
Sexual Tarot 1982
Silverwood Tarot 1987
Tarocchi del Re Sole 1986
Tarocchi di Astrella 1988
Tarocchi di Clizia 1985
Tarocchi di Duomo di Siena 1986
Tarocchi di Gambedotti 1982
Tarocchi di Giordano 1983
Tarocchi di Valentina Visconti 1982
Tarocchi Lanzichenecchi 1988
Tarocchi Perduti (all versions) 1988
Carnaval de Venice Tarot 1988
Tarocco del Tabacco 1980
Tarocco della Felicita 1984
Tarocco di Sissi 1989
Tarocco ‘Favoloso’ 1987
Tarocco Mitologico by Folchi 1988
Tarocco Storico del Palio Pistoia 1985
Tarocco Storico della Citta di Ferrara 1987
Tarot D’Argolance 1983
Tarot of Initiation 1984
Tarot of the Millenium by Chamberlain 1984
Thelemic Tarot 1981
Venetian Historical Tarot 1980
Women of May Tarot (Tarocchi Donne di Maggio) 1982


I also got a lot of Japanese ones, but not sure if I should list those too. 


Princess_Lucy  14 Apr 2005 
One of my friends has a James Bond Deck. It came to her from her father, and is part of a 'game'. It's amazing (I think it's from the 60's).

I want one I want one I want one!!!

Lucy 


Junia  15 Apr 2005 
Trulighth Quote "I also got a lot of Japanese ones, but not sure if I should list those too."

I'll bite I'd like to see the list. I am curious is this just new w/the animae craze or are there some really old Japanese Decks?

Love and The Sun XIX,

Junia 


truelighth  15 Apr 2005 
Junia wrote:
Trulighth Quote "I also got a lot of Japanese ones, but not sure if I should list those too."

I'll bite I'd like to see the list. I am curious is this just new w/the animae craze or are there some really old Japanese Decks?


I don't think there are any really old Japanese decks. Not that I have heared off at least. But there is a long history of Japanese playing cards. And from what I hear, the Japanese are crazy about anything collectable anyway, especially cards. Not just tarot cards, but any kind of collectable cards.

Most of the decks I found in this list from the 80's are not really anime or manga though. Their art is quite different. Here is the list:

Ai No Tarot 1988
Aino No Tarot by George Domon 1989
Astrologic Tarot 1989
Asu ga Wakaru-Yasahil Tarot 1989
Gamieru Future Tarot 1989
Jugendstil Tarot 1986
Mineo Maya Tarot 1980
Mirai-o-Tsugeru Tarot 1989
Nature Tarot 1980
Shiawase no mai 1989
Shiawase o Maneko 1989
Shiawase-o-Yobu Ai-no-Tarot Uranai 1990
Shinpi-no-Tarot Uranai 1989
Tarot Uranai 1989
Tarot of Wicca 1984 


Lillie  15 Apr 2005 
Princess_Lucy wrote:
One of my friends has a James Bond Deck. It came to her from her father, and is part of a 'game'. It's amazing (I think it's from the 60's).

I want one I want one I want one!!!

Lucy


The Deck from the film?

I always thought that was really ugly.

What is the 'game'?
Is it a game that is played with just the cards, (like tarrocco) or does it have other bits, like pieces or a board?

Have you played it?

Is it a fortune telling game, or just an ordinary game?

Sorry to be so nosey, but I get curious about things. 


Rusty Neon  15 Apr 2005 
Princess_Lucy wrote:
One of my friends has a James Bond Deck. It came to her from her father, and is part of a 'game'. It's amazing (I think it's from the 60's).

I want one I want one I want one!!!

Lucy


Start saving up. The James Bond movie promotional deck (basically the Tarot of the Witches, but with James Bond movie images on the box and the 007 cardbacks) is relatively cheap on eBay, but the James Bond Tarot Game set (consisting of James Bond movie promotional deck plus book and game components) went for $52.00 U.S. on a recent eBay auction.

Beware the eBay auctions that sell the deck "that was actually used in the James Bond movie" as they'd be selling an ordinary Tarot of the Witches deck. 


Junia  15 Apr 2005 
Truelighth, I've had a look at a few on Tarotgarden's web site. Like the one from Moon Princess Himiko(sp?). A lot of them are majors only. Interesting that in a country with so little space, the Japanese like to collect things--less land more stuff maybe? Thanks for posting this list.

As for the James Bond Deck, somewhere in the threads on Tarot in the movies there is a discussion by TarotBear and others on exactly which Decks were used in, "Live and Let Die". Plus TarotBear actually has a Solitaire Doll!!! If you search for the thread be sure to take a look at T-Bear in his full magician's regalia! "Silly Old Bear"

Love and Cups,

Junia 


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