Star Wars Deck
Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 10 May 2005, and now archived in the Forum Library.
| bladeraven |
10 May 2005 |
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Is there a Star Wars deck?? Hoping to get the LOTR oracle deck and it got me to thinking if Star Wars (okay I admit it..I love LOTR and star wars) deck. Was thinking of getting one for my SO and get him sucked into the addictive world of Tarot...and maybe as a bribe to get a kitty...
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| FlashFighter |
13 Jun 2005 |
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As far as I know.... no not really.... but Star Wars would provide some interesting cards, just off the top of my head
0. The Fool- Luke Skywalker
1. The Magician- Yoda
2. The High Priestess- Princess Leia
3. The Empress- Padme Amidala
4. The Emperor- Darth Vader
5. The Heirophant- Mace Windu
6. The Lovers- Han and Leia
7. The Chariot- The Millenium Falcon
8. Strength- ??
9. The Hermit- Obi Wan Kenobi (Old Ben Version)
10. The Wheel of Fortune- ?? Maybe some representation of The Force??
11. Justice- Darth Vader Throwing Emperor Palpatine down the shaft, maybe?
12. The Hanged Man- Han Solo in Carbonite
13. Death: Obi Wan sacrificing himself to Darth Vader
14. Temperance: ??
15. The Devil- Either Emperor Palpatine, or Jabba the Hutt with Slave Leia
16. The Tower- The Death Star
17. The Star: ??
18. The Moon- Endor
19. The Sun(s)- The Twin suns of Tattoine
20. Judgement- Luke forgiving a dying Vader
21. The World- Anakin Skywalker Force Ghost
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| FlashFighter |
13 Jun 2005 |
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OK.... few Changes.....
Yoda has been bumped up to the Heirophant
Qui-Gonn Jinn is now the Magician.
Also.... I need some ideas for suits
The Obvious-
Swords= Lightsabers
Coins/Pentacles= Credits
Wands= Blasters... maybe Spaceships
stuck on Cups though...
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| similia |
13 Jun 2005 |
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I like the list. Although my mind cannot be changed that Artoo should be the fool. He is the wide eyed jump without thinking type, at the start of the story. (This would free the mature Luke up to be the Magician, and let Yoda stay as the Heirophant :) )
There is a link here for a star wars Sabacc deck. Although not a tarot, it is based on tarot decks generally, and has 4 suits of 11, 3 courts, an ace that is somehow different to the ones, and 16 paired majors (i.e. two sets of 8).
Apparently George Lucas is not keen on a Star Wars tarot, so I guess one will never exist. Seems rather fussy of him when you look at some of the crappy merchandise that is available...
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| FlashFighter |
13 Jun 2005 |
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Oh lord.... like that horrible Jar Jar candy, where it's tounge is the candy, and you have to tounge kiss Jar Jar to eat the candy.... *shudder*
Here is the link to it....
http://castle.geek.net/todcra/reviews/000128.html
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| similia |
13 Jun 2005 |
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That is deeply disturbing!! There is not an emoticon that expresses what I am thinking now. It s a combination of :(, :eek: :rolleyes: and :mad:!
So FlashFighter, I see you are an art student..... :D
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| NeuroticNovice |
13 Jun 2005 |
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In a way, episode 4-6 is the fool's journey for Luke.
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| Osher |
13 Jun 2005 |
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R2-D2 is The Magician. He has the tools for the job, he finds connections where others do not, and uses brain over brawn
C-3PO is Temprance. He always seek peace and harmony
Yoda is Strength. He is strong, without size
The Star is the explosion of the second Death Star
Justice is Darth Vader just before he throws Palpatine down the shaft.
The Tower is the 1st Death Star, as it was due to this that the new one was built.
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| tao51 |
13 Jun 2005 |
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Jar-Jar makes a better Fool. He is easily duped. He seems to travel in all the circles of the republic.
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| NeuroticNovice |
13 Jun 2005 |
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Chewbacca would be a good canidate for Strength. He's strong and occasioanlly violent, but also gentle, emotional and intelligent.
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| Shade |
13 Jun 2005 |
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Interestingly enough in the star wars universe the game sabbacc (what Han and Lando played for ownership of the millenium falcon) is based on a tarot deck, I believe cups are flasks in that version.
There is the Star Wars deck listed on Aeclectic but I'm sure it was never finished. In it R2-D2 is the moon and C-3P0 is the sun.
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| bladeraven |
13 Jun 2005 |
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how would anakin and his alter Darth Vader be depicted....it seems funny for me to say....but I had thought about that image being depicted on the Lover's Card...he's having to choose which side he would love or hate
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| FlashFighter |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Hmm... well.. it really would depend on the card and circumstance.... for example, I have him Darth Vader down as The Emperor, however, young Anakin, might be presented as something else
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| Shade |
14 Jun 2005 |
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Here's my list
Fool - young Anakin in a saga-wide deck, Luke looking at the setting suns of Tatooine in an original trilogy one
Magician - Lando Calrissian - jack of all trades trickster
High Priestess - Leia - hmm that doesn't really seem to fit somehow, probably Leia on Endor
Empress - Padme in her Queen of Naboo Regalia
Emperor - Mace Windu - he does it by the book
Hierophant - Yoda - repository of wisdom
Lovers - Han and Leia - an alchemical joining of very different forces
Chariot - Millenium Falcon facing down Needa's Star Destroyer
Strength - The Ewoks destroying the imperial base on Endor
Hermit - Obi Wan
Wheel of Fortune - an image of a space battle
Justice - The Jedi Council
Hanged Man - Luke doing his hand stand force exercises
Death - difficult, Obi Wan's death or Vader's pyre
Temperance - The Senate
Devil - Emperor Palpatine enthroned to coincide with the star wars myth or Vader to be more aligned with jungian psychology, depending on your take
Tower - Death Star
Star - Hologram Leia
Moon - R2-D2, not an idea I can take credit for, I do like it though
Sun - C-3PO same thing
Judgement - Vader throws Emperor into the reactor shaft.... or Luke throws down his lightsaber
World - image of the galaxy? Images of victory celebration on coruscant
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| tao51 |
14 Jun 2005 |
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2 of swords-Luke blindfolded hoding two sabers
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| Osher |
14 Jun 2005 |
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7 Swords - Landu betraying the Han to Darth Vader
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| Osher |
15 Jun 2005 |
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Do we need to use to use the same names for the cards? Jabba's fortress could be The Tower, but named as The Fortress. Magician becomes Jedi Master, for example.
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| bladeraven |
15 Jun 2005 |
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Do we need to use to use the same names for the cards? Jabba's fortress could be The Tower, but named as The Fortress. Magician becomes Jedi Master, for example.
Good thinking Osher.....
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| Emeraldgirl |
15 Jun 2005 |
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I like the sound of this deck.
4 Wands - Ewok Party
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| similia |
15 Jun 2005 |
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Actually, for the 2 of Swords..... if we go into the Expanded Universe (Books, Games, Cartoons, etc).... I'd say Asajj Ventress.... http://www.toytokyo.com/images/ACN-starwars-0.037.jpg
Ah this becomes a tricky question... I'm not sure if I would want the expanded universe included, but then again there are some bits of it I wouldn't want left out.
I've been thinking how tricky the court cards would be. They could end up far to similar to the majors I think.
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| Shade |
16 Jun 2005 |
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Mara Jade would make a great Queen of Swords in an expanded universe deck.
Zam Wessel (shapeshifting bounty huntress) would be an excellent page of swords.
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| similia |
16 Jun 2005 |
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Mara Jade would make a great Queen of Swords in an expanded universe deck.
Yes! And I am think Callista for the High Priestess because of her duality, which frees Leia to be a Queen. Not sure which one though... wands or cups. It depends which movie/scene I guess.
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| similia |
16 Jun 2005 |
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I found this great article on medieval/tarot themes in the Star Wars movies. http://www.sydneyanglicans.net/culture/thinking/375a/
I liked her ideas on the hangman, especially for Han as the Christ-like figure. A very different take than I'd ever considered.
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| Shade |
16 Jun 2005 |
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Here's my court thoughts. The girls are hard because so few appear in the films.
King of Wands: Lando if he wasn't the Magician, Boss Nass if he was
Queen of Wands: Mon Mothma
Knight of Wands: Wedge Antilles
Page of Wands: Sy Snootles
King of Disks: Qui Gon
Queen of Disks: Beru Lars
Knight of Disks: Biggs
Page of Disks: Taun We
King Of Swords: Grand Moff Tarkin
Queen of Swords: Mara Jade in an expanded Universe deck, Sly Moore or Aayla Secura in a film-only version
Knight of Swords: Han Solo
Page of Swords: Zam Wessel or Corde
King of Cups: Bail Organa
Queen of Cups: Shmi Skywalker
Knight of Cups: Anakin Skywalker (circa Episode II) or Kyp Durron (expanded)
Page of Cups: Luminaara or Oola
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| Shade |
16 Jun 2005 |
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My minors (Heavily RWS influenced) Suit of Wands:
Wands
Ace - Yoda lifts the X-Wing (if it wasn't used as Strength)
2 - Image of Luke and tatooine sunset if it had not been in majors,
3 - Leia and C-3PO watch the battle of Yavin
4 - Awards assembly post Yavin
5 - Battle of Geonosis
6 - Naboo Victory Parade
7 - Luke and Leia rope swing
8 - X-wings in formation
9 - Trash Compactor
10 - Yoda and Obi Wan in the jedi temple
Cups
Ace - Birth of Luke & Leia
2 - Hand and leia kiss on Millenium Falcon
3 - Max Rebo band in Jabba's palace
4 - Luke playing with a model ship
5 - Escape from Bespin
6 - Anakin and Padme on Naboo
7 - Anakin's nightmares, Luke's Nightmares
8 - Yoda fleeing Kashyyyk, Vader on his star destroyer over Bespin
9 - Cantina, Luke getting into his 1st X-wing
10 - Podrace victory
Swords
Ace - Luke receives his lightsaber Lightsaber
2 - Luke in Jedi Meditation
3 - Vader's revelation
4 - Luke in a Bacta tank
5 - Count Dooku post Obi Wan/Anakin fight
6 - Queen Amidala flees Naboo, Evacuation of Hoth
7 - Lando as a palace guard, or Boussh with Chewbacca
8 - Leia being interrogated
9 - Padme during destruction of Jedi Temple
10 - Death of Qui Gonn, eradication of Jedi
Disks
Ace - Orb handed to Boss Nass
2 - Oola dancing near trapdoor
3 - Anakin builds a podracer
4 - Jabba enthroned with Leia
5 - Padme and Bail Organa at the senate
6 - Ewoks aid the rebellion
7 - Camino Cloning facility or... for some reason, Jawas
8 - Jedi training
9 - Gungan Council
10 - Assembled heroes after the battle of Endor
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| Xander |
16 Jun 2005 |
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cups could be driods :D
man how cool would a starwars deck be? :p im going in my loft and getting my millenuim falcon down :D
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| FlashFighter |
19 Jun 2005 |
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Hmm... some interesting choices..... there are some I'd do a little different, however there are some that I feel you got spot on.
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| bladeraven |
19 Jun 2005 |
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Hmm... some interesting choices..... there are some I'd do a little different, however there are some that I feel you got spot on.
I was thinking.......Anakin's mom would make a good Queen of Pentacles.....she was strong yet quiet......she was wise yet still innocent of a lot of the way the events were unfolding......
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| Fairawen |
19 Jun 2005 |
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GOSH how could I have missed this thread!!! I'm a Star Wars geek! And I've missed it all this time! *slaps self with a cold, dead fish*
Swords=Lightsabers
Pentacles=Credits
Wands=Blasters
Cups=Driods?
Shade I really like some of your ideas. Oh why oh why is there no Star Wars deck... now I feel like crying... *weeps* :P
~Fairawen~
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| HedgeWych |
19 Jun 2005 |
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Great idea... :)
Fool should be Jar Jar!!! :) or R2D2.
Strength could be Obi Wan on the lizard/bird thingy. pretty....
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| Arcana |
20 Jun 2005 |
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This is a great thread! And what a great idea to create a Star Wars Deck! I do hope it becomes reality some time. Of course it is an almost classic example of a story of initiation... especially episodes 4-6.
I have a few thoughts about the Major Arcana myself... Some of them I got from earlier posts, I don't mean to copy - I'm just agreeing... :)
The Fool: Luke Skywalker, absolutely! It's his story of initiation.
The Magician: jedi master, maybe a young Obi Wan?
The High Priestess: difficult one, since there are so few female characters (I'm only familiar with the movies) but I was thinking about R2D2... I know it's a stretch, but he/it is sort of a silent, knowing figure...
The Empress: Padme Amidala as Queen
The Emperor: Master Windu (like Shade said, he does it by the book, and he is a authority figure among the Jedi)
The Hierophant: Yoda, the wise one
The Lovers: Han and Leia
The Chariot: Milennium Falcon
Strength: Luke exercizing the Force
The Hermit: old Obi Wan. I think we all agree on that...
The Wheel: ?
Justice: ?
The Hanged Man: Han in carbonite (good one, FlashFighter!)
Death: Obi Wan sacrificing himself to Vader
Temperance: ?
The Devil: Darth Vader, no question, from Jungian perspective like Shade said; Vader is Luke's shadow
The Tower: exploding Death Star
The Star: I tend to agree with Shade on this one again, Leia's hologram, it's sort of a guiding star, isn't it?
The Moon: Endor
The Sun: twin suns of Tatooine...
Judgement: I prefer to look at this card as Rebirth... and from that perspective the birth of Luke and Leia would be fitting maybe...
The Universe: the galaxy
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| HedgeWych |
20 Jun 2005 |
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How about High Priestess being Padme as the Senator. I think it fits.
Empress.... pregnant Padme.
Yes... she's my favorite character... though I'm more like Leia. lol
Temperance could be C3PO. He's very balanced, and reminds others to think about everything.
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