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The red violin

Thread originally posted on the Aeclectic Tarot Forum on 16 May 2002, and now archived in the Forum Library.

Alex  16 May 2002 
Did any of you watch the movie "the red violin?.
What spread and deck does the old lady use?
Thanks
Alex. 


Jenny-Li  17 May 2002 
Nope, sorry.

But you got me curious - who made this movie, what country is it from - I think I have heard about it, and that it was from someone recommending it, but now I can't remember... What's it about, and was it good?

Light and love,
Jenny :) 


Kissa  17 May 2002 
there's an earlier thread about this movie and the deck used in it, i guess it is in "tarot decks" from the old forum maybe ? I am going to try and find + bump it for you.

Kissa 


bladeraven  30 Dec 2004 
The movie was fantastic..I love how they interwove the reading with the events that had happen. 


MeM  02 Jan 2005 
Great Question! This was a fabulous movie! 


Sulis  03 Jan 2005 
Tarot Totes has a page about tarot in the movies and in TV.

The Red Violin is listed but sadly there is no information about which deck was used.

http://www.tarottotes.com/item.asp?iid=42 Scroll down the page a little.

Love

Sulis xx 


WolfyJames  03 Jan 2005 
You can get many informations about the movie here:

http://imdb.com/title/tt0120802/?fr=c2l0ZT1kZnxzZz0xfHR0PW9ufHBuPTB8cT1SZWQgVmlvbGlufG14PTIwfGxtPTIwMHxodG1sPTE_;fc=1;ft=14

You can read there:

"Cesca's Tarot deck appears to have been specially designed for the film. The five cards drawn are all Major Arcana and resemble the Tarot of Marseilles in design, except that the devil holds one prisoner instead of two on the Devil card, and the Chinese flag is discernible behind the figure in the Justice card."

I love the movie and I'm proud of the movies we make. 


ElfantPup  03 Jan 2005 
I was just looking at the same site as WolfyJames (imdb.com), which is a good place to get a lot of info about any movie, by the way. I saw The Red Violin when it was in theaters (1998/1999) and knew nothing about Tarot at the time. I really loved the movie and I recommend it. Imdb.com lists as a goof that the tarot-reading takes place in 1683 before the cards were actually used for divination. The Tarot-reading aspect may not be completely accurate (I don't know), but this is one worth seeing. 


TemperanceAngel  08 Jan 2005 
I just heard about this film recently, but have not seen it. It's on my must see list :D 


firemaiden  08 Jan 2005 
I loved the movie, but have absolutely no recollection of any tarot reading in it. Isn't that funny? I guess it is because I saw it before I knew anything about tarot. 


Majecot  10 Jan 2005 
FM I am surprised... the reading was thru out the movie... were you otherwise engaged? })

I loved this movie, a few years ago a friend brought it over when we used to have "movie night" and it really left us all thinking. I was just looking the other night on Amazon to see if I could get a copy of it for myself. It is a sleeper/keeper. :D 


firemaiden  10 Jan 2005 
LOL! nope. I guess tarot just hadn't entered my consciousness yet, so there was no way for it to register. :D 


Majecot  10 Jan 2005 
Hehe..I guess you will just have to watch it again :D 


Aure  11 Jan 2005 
I can't believe my eyes!! this question has been eating me for days now!!

The movie was on tv a couple of days ago here and unfortunately I only saw the end of it. I started to wonder what the deck was because it seemed really beautiful and I liked the aged look.

This thread seems to be a couple of years old and now it just jumped in front of my eyes!! Weird... 


firemaiden  14 Jan 2005 
Well, majecot, under your orders, I rented the movie and watched it again. By Golly, you're right, there is a tarot reading!

Funny thing that! I certainly had remembered very little about it, and the plot. Well, I can tell you the spread was just five cards. They were all majors (duh). Just spread out in a line.

1 - (Cremona, Italy) The Moon - "un viaggio.. un lungo viaggo" ... (a "trip", hunh?) (or was it her way of avoiding saying "Death in childbirth" - where death and birth both are a passage through the pillars?... and then rebirth as the violin with a soul of a woman.

2 - (Swiss Alps? then Vienna, then gypsy voyages all over) The Hanged man.. hm.. "c'è una maledizione su di te signora... pericolo, per chi si trova su tuo incanto, e sono molti, molti... è una carta potente...l'Impeccato, vedo il pericolo, infirmità, malatia..."

"There hangs a curse on you, signora, danger for those who fall under your spell, and they are many, many, it is a powerful card, the hanged man, I see danger, infirmity, disease, sickness..."

and then... un tempo di libertà ... la tua è un'anima de Lazaro
a time of liberty, yours is the soul of Lazarus

3. (Oxford) The Devil, represented a great English violinist. "Mr. Pope" ( A Devil named "Pope" hahahah) This devil card - looks like it only has one attached creature, but... the chains to the second are still visible (LOL) - perhaps the artist just took a Marseille deck and erased the second creature. S/he also drew underpants on the devil, along with a hat and a beard, and made the subbordinated woman ressemble Mr. Pope's girlfriend.

4. (Shanghai) Justice - wearing a grey chinese communist party hat, with the communist flag behind : "There will be a trial, and you will be found guilty" Western Classical music on trial in the cultural revolution...

5. (Montreal) Death Reversed -"una nascita" a rebirth - the violin is ressurcted - restored, repaired, returned to the limelight.

There were other cards visible during the credits, including the Wheel I think... I wish they had been clearer on the screen. 


Majecot  14 Jan 2005 
Wow Firemaiden... you paused and took notes didn't you ;)
Well you are making me want to watch it all over again. I did not take notice of which cards were turned over, I was wrapped up in the story itself when I watched it.
What I remember about the reading was the old lady was a little scary, and intense that and I think that she had the girl pick the cards, but my memory is kind of vauge on the details. It took me a while to realize what the flashbacks were really refering too. 


TemperanceAngel  18 Jan 2005 
heehee, the person who built my new computer put a whole load of music and dvd's on it for me and I just found them and guess what's on there???
You guessed it: The Red Violin!

*TA is very happy* 


Osher  21 Jan 2005 
I've got this film on DVD, and seen it quite a few times in the past few years. Funny, like the FireM I didn't recall the Tarot cards in it either. Lovely film, but one of those which you either love or are bored by. I've tried watching it with friends, but they mostly switch off (literally too!).

Some films are Tarot, the more they are used and looked into, the more they improve, and the more is found. Yet like Tarot, not everyone appreciates the subtle nature of the film, or can see the multiple layers. I'm just trying to think of other films in the same vein. 


firemaiden  21 Jan 2005 
Majecot wrote:
Wow Firemaiden... you paused and took notes didn't you ;)


Yup! I kept trying to see the cards more clearly. Funny thing is, they were flashed on the screen so very briefly, it was well nigh impossible to get a good glimpse - it was intentional I think to make it impossible to really see the card. I imagine the doctoring of the cards was probably supposed to be an in-joke. 


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